$600 Bow VS $2,500 Bow

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$600 Bow VS $2,500 Bow..Tim Connor has a good old fashioned versus video with the Bear Adapt bow, the same bow some of the @TheHuntingPublic use and a HOYT VTM 34.. These are two completely different bow rigs that I shoot and compare side by side.. It is a really fun video if you're curious about entry level bows versus flagship bows. In this video I feature the Bear Adapt bow and the Hoyt VTM 34. If you have any questions drop them in the comments. #archery #3darchery
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  • @TimConnor13
    @TimConnor138 ай бұрын

    Fun video to make! Just for notes the bear was tuned too.. Back wall was soft and harder to be consistent with.. get out and chase it wherever you’re at! Also, slap them greasy little mits on the subscribe button!

  • @afidbhawkins3173

    @afidbhawkins3173

    8 ай бұрын

    Should have switched to the limb stop on the adapt. It has that option

  • @royleerobinson5

    @royleerobinson5

    8 ай бұрын

    Yea limb stop is the deal for sure

  • @kylehuck8449

    @kylehuck8449

    8 ай бұрын

    Do the Elk Shape sideplates fit your Hoyt?

  • @user-tm5bd6dv3d

    @user-tm5bd6dv3d

    8 ай бұрын

    Bear bows come with a limb stop in the box for the more steady back wall for those who prefer it

  • @mat_in_texas

    @mat_in_texas

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey, I hope my comment didn’t upset you. It wasn’t a jab. Just an admission of reality. For us average guys, 50 yds is actually quite a long shot. We tend to compare ourselves to the top archers because they have the biggest channels. But most of us are just backyard warriors that enjoy shooting our bows.

  • @brookvalleylife724
    @brookvalleylife7248 ай бұрын

    Hi Tim. I find it's the lump of meat behind the bow that makes the difference between bows. A good archer with a cheap bow will always be better than a crap archer with an expensive bow.

  • @phild9813

    @phild9813

    7 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @iamtoxic1

    @iamtoxic1

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure that I appreciate being called a lump of meat . I mean it's accurate, I just don't like it.

  • @kingrider75
    @kingrider757 ай бұрын

    I can promise you that there’s not a bow on the market that’s going to make you more successful harvesting an Animal.

  • @diecast4359

    @diecast4359

    6 ай бұрын

    Fred bear didn’t have a compound bow and he killed everything

  • @Jahallk9

    @Jahallk9

    5 ай бұрын

    Which bow?

  • @Yettiattack

    @Yettiattack

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah but they shoot way way better and are better for beating brush hiking etc. carbon doesnt get cold like aluminum.

  • @knotengajin7359

    @knotengajin7359

    5 ай бұрын

    @@YettiattackDefine better. I have two different Bear compounds, one that cost $300 20 years ago, and I can touch arrows as a totally average archer.

  • @yrahcaz1967

    @yrahcaz1967

    5 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. Nothing compares to the amount of time invested in learning the equipment, developing good technique, and studying your quarry.

  • @mat_in_texas
    @mat_in_texas8 ай бұрын

    Glad to see I’m not the only guy on KZread who sucks shooting my bow 😂 Thanks for keeping it real.

  • @racker7855

    @racker7855

    7 ай бұрын

    I definitely assumed that he would be a better shot....

  • @jyeprice9382

    @jyeprice9382

    7 ай бұрын

    Ahahaha savage.

  • @SuperDave-pe1zw
    @SuperDave-pe1zw8 ай бұрын

    I've bow hunted over 40 years, started with wooden arrows and a Bear recurve. I've had several Hoyt bows and PSE bows. Last new Hoyt i bought was a Defiant turbo , it shot 316 thru the chrono, then the PSE Evo came out. I heard all the hype so shot one. Fell in love ❤️ i immediately bought the Evo and sold my Hoyt. Evo shot 333 thru chronograph with 400 gr arrows that is the same as I always shoot. I buy bare bows and set them up how i want with QAD rest and HHA sights. You don't need an expensive bow to shoot any game in North America. I had a Bear RTH bow and it shot as good as any bow out there. Accuracy is in the shooter. Upgrade your rest and sights and any bow will kill and most newer bows mad will shoot plenty fast enough and you don't need 500 gr arrows for a deer. Biggest thing is practice practice practice!!! Every day if you only shoot 5 arrows a day shoot your bow !!!

  • @michaellopez8498
    @michaellopez84988 ай бұрын

    I have a Bear Whitetail Legend that I bought just over two years ago as I was getting back into archery after a 20 plus year break, and have now upgraded to the Hoyt Ventum a few months ago. Although the Hoyt is more consistent, there is not a significant difference in the accuracy or consistency to justify the enormous difference in cost. If you’re curious about bow hunting, do like Tim suggested, go buy a Bear RTH, then get out there and start shooting/hunting. However, I would encourage everyone to first learn proper technique, then you’ll have a great time without having to break the bank.

  • @Lycurgus47

    @Lycurgus47

    8 ай бұрын

    I got a whitetail legend pro last year, had it about a month and the string stop started biting into the bus cable. Also the cable slide was cheap plastic and started wearing on the bow string almost immediately and had to be changed out. Once I brought it into the bow shop they told me they’d have to send it back to bear to get replaced. You get what you pay for. I used store credit and got a Ventum pro 30 and it has been well worth the price. One thing I’ve learned I’ve the years is, buy once cry once. If you skimp out on quality for price, you will regret it if it’s something you actually want to get into.

  • @skoolynugenator1802

    @skoolynugenator1802

    8 ай бұрын

    I would suggest just shooting a bunch of bows and pick what you like best.

  • @coachbeam3600

    @coachbeam3600

    7 ай бұрын

    I started with a Bow Legit RTH. Love that bow. Upgraded to a Hoyt after my skill justified the investment (started taking archery religiously). It’s a lot like golf. There comes a point where the equipment will help amplify skill, but won’t create it. Whatever you have, just keep slinging ‘em!!

  • @knotengajin7359

    @knotengajin7359

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Lycurgus47I have a Bear Epic Extreme that is around 20 years old and I’ve only replaced string and cables.

  • @Lycurgus47

    @Lycurgus47

    5 ай бұрын

    @@knotengajin7359 I’ve heard the old bear bows are amazing. The new ones have quality control issues

  • @groundrootsoutdoors627
    @groundrootsoutdoors6278 ай бұрын

    I gotta challenge for you. Upgrade the bear with everything you have on the Hoyt and see what happens

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Noted!

  • @spindrift2719

    @spindrift2719

    8 ай бұрын

    I have an RX1 and I would be interested to see this also . I have a Diamond by Bowtech that shoots good out to 50-60 yards haven’t tried past that but this video has me wanting to see fit myself now if I could .

  • @tybowhunter8987

    @tybowhunter8987

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah it seem like it was a off the shelf and tuned up bow for the results. To ne almost. I feel the bear could definetly do much better with more time in on the bow with stock stuff. And even with upgrades.

  • @groundrootsoutdoors627

    @groundrootsoutdoors627

    7 ай бұрын

    @@tybowhunter8987 I mean the Hoyt is going to shine over the Bear anyway but there is a “spree decor” (the right way) to match up bows to make them equal. This is one of many reasons I don’t follow Tim or elk shape. They are fake. But that’s my opinion

  • @tybowhunter8987

    @tybowhunter8987

    7 ай бұрын

    @groundrootsoutdoors627 very true. A higher end bow vs a budget bow with the same attachment. The higher end will most likely do better. Then as well a bow with a bigger Brace height will be more forgiving and one with a smaller one will be faster if remember correctly. But both will definitely be enough to get someone out in the field shooting and hunting. The bigger thing us obviously the archer shooting it and how familiar they are with their equipment. Like I shoot my mathews v3 I am on target. But I change up and shoot someone's else's bow it will be different might not be far off but not as effective as one could be with it.

  • @TheMrMayo
    @TheMrMayo8 ай бұрын

    There was something peaceful of watching this. I don't know why, but there's something satisfying about listening to different types and learning their strengths/weaknesses. Cheers for the video!

  • @gatlinparker-le1pu
    @gatlinparker-le1pu8 ай бұрын

    Love to see you fully rig out the adapt with land slide and long bars and qad rest.

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Noted!

  • @bigz5262

    @bigz5262

    8 ай бұрын

    You’d be way better off doing that than buying a flagship and sticking a biscuit on it

  • @XJ550CAFE

    @XJ550CAFE

    7 ай бұрын

    That brings to mind the saying "putting lipstick on a pig"

  • @bigz5262

    @bigz5262

    7 ай бұрын

    @@XJ550CAFE it’s better to put lipstick on a pig than buy a flagship and not be able to afford decent accessories

  • @jodykaufman4080
    @jodykaufman4080Ай бұрын

    Great presentation. Casual, informative and moves along without the usual filler.

  • @Mechanics.Life80
    @Mechanics.Life808 ай бұрын

    Awesome video!! We need more archers for sure. Especially with the NASP program in jeopardy.

  • @TierNoneOperator
    @TierNoneOperator7 ай бұрын

    I love my adapt. I've got it set up...weird. Old school whisker biscuit, no peep, ezv sight, no string dampers. 630 grain arrow going 240 fps. It will shoot through two moose and keep on going. I love how set and forget it is. No mechanical things to fail in the field.

  • @boxerTJ
    @boxerTJ8 ай бұрын

    Owned a more budget friendly bow when I was getting started. Focused on upgrading the components on it which made it a great shooting bow. Then moved those components over to my current bow. Was much more enjoyable shooting than going out & buying a flagship but putting low quality components on it.

  • @suprajet
    @suprajet7 ай бұрын

    My 2005 Bowtech Allegiance allowed me some of the best groupings I have ever had, but I fell into the "Newer is better" trap and bought a newer one only to find out that I couldn't get the same groupings with it as I did my old one. Downfall is I sold the Allegiance and it is long gone. I would have went back to it in a heartbeat

  • @patmeister84
    @patmeister848 ай бұрын

    Definitely would love a full review of the VTM!

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Noted!

  • @TMar129

    @TMar129

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@TimConnor13 what is your arrow weight and draw poundage for your Hoyt?

  • @Oleman72
    @Oleman724 ай бұрын

    This is a great video and it is honestly the most honest test I have seen.

  • @justinstarr9828
    @justinstarr98288 ай бұрын

    Timmy, dude! Love the vids. It's really cool making videos like this. Keep em coming. From Indiana

  • @Joshua_Tallent
    @Joshua_Tallent8 ай бұрын

    Let’s see a review of the Hoyt Tim! Loved this video. It gives other people a perspective that you don’t need to buy a bare bow at $1000 or more just to get into Archery. Keep it up man!

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks my dude!

  • @PrerakGrover

    @PrerakGrover

    5 ай бұрын

    @@TimConnor13what is the name of the music at 0:57

  • @Cerickson12
    @Cerickson127 ай бұрын

    @timConnor13 I’ve just recently purchased my first bow and went the used flagship route (Mathews Monster 7.0). It’s too late to change up my setup now but would there be more benefit to go with a rth package like the one on this video? Or will the older bow I purchased last me longer with this newfound journey? I’d like to see a future video where you buy a used flagship and compare it to the Bear Archery. Maybe a Mathews switchback or monster or a Hoyt. Thanks for the great video.

  • @carlquevedo9431
    @carlquevedo94318 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love this video! 🔥 I bought a Bear Legit RTH last year for $450 then bought a Bear Alaskan this year for $599 and spent that much again in a sight and rest for it. I would love to buy a flagship from Matthews, PSE, or Hoyt but this mid-priced bow with higher quality accessories has been the jackpot for me. You’re absolutely right, Tim, about getting out in the field and shooting. That’s what will really get you to the point where you can be accurate and successful with any bow you pick up. Great content! 👏🏼

  • @jacobmcvay123

    @jacobmcvay123

    7 ай бұрын

    Get an Elite Era, spend the $1400, prob $2k after fully setting it up, and never buy another bow again. Will die with this bow. Won’t need another ever again. Forest green. Couldn’t pass up. Shot probably 100 bows. Only the Bowtech carbon one came close imo.

  • @tylermoore3024
    @tylermoore30248 ай бұрын

    Cool idea for a video. What are the specs on the bear? Brace? Ata?

  • @Hucker83
    @Hucker837 ай бұрын

    Great video! What type of quiver are you using?

  • @gfunkera_2266
    @gfunkera_22667 ай бұрын

    I have the original adapt and love it. It got me to dive into the rabbit hole of bow hunting

  • @flowers.19166
    @flowers.191668 ай бұрын

    Really liked this video. Got me to subscribe. I'm not the best long range either but your honest and I really respect that Tim.

  • @thomasdinh2753
    @thomasdinh27537 ай бұрын

    wouldn't mind more of these comparison vids

  • @justinmains4433
    @justinmains44336 ай бұрын

    It’d be way closer if you had the same sight, rest, and stabilizer on the Bear that you have on the Hoyt. Accessories make a big difference.

  • @jonasoutdoors

    @jonasoutdoors

    4 ай бұрын

    But then it's not a 600 dollar bow

  • @MichaelPick
    @MichaelPickАй бұрын

    Cool bow! But I've outshot archers with $1000+ bows with my $300 Parker bow in competition. It all comes down to the archer.

  • @Millertime96
    @Millertime968 ай бұрын

    Would it be better to be in the top end of one cam on the vtm 34 being a 28.5 DL or the bottom end of another mod on the vtm 31 with the 28.5?

  • @madman432000
    @madman4320008 ай бұрын

    First thing on the Bear to replace is the peep setup.

  • @Outdoorbowhunter
    @Outdoorbowhunter8 ай бұрын

    Definitely a good video to put it in perspective on what you get at different price points. The bear is definitely a great starter bow to get in the field. Well it’s actually a pretty good bow period.

  • @Stars_luvyou

    @Stars_luvyou

    8 ай бұрын

    If he would have actually sighted in bear it would have shot same look at where all 3 arrows hit.looked like only difference to me was speed and feel.i had a bear and it was awkward. Set point had no room for movement but honestly it shot great . My Mathews only uses 1 pin for 20 and 30 with half inch difference. The bear had little over inch. Just things I noticed.

  • @vectraB97
    @vectraB978 ай бұрын

    The bear bow consistently shot a little low to the right. In my opinion the sight adjustment wasn't spot on.

  • @ethanhiggins4268
    @ethanhiggins42688 ай бұрын

    It’s the rubber tubing on the peep for me. I just can’t get over it. And there’s no logical reason for it 😂

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol it’s the easy button for peep alignment.. but yeah it’s kind of hokie

  • @Qbynordi

    @Qbynordi

    8 ай бұрын

    It's just not needed these days, first thing that I would swap out.

  • @malcolmjohnson5941

    @malcolmjohnson5941

    8 ай бұрын

    On a single cam bow the string is extremely long. On a budget bow with a budget string. The rubber tube is a budget way to keep the peep aligned.

  • @ethanhiggins4268

    @ethanhiggins4268

    8 ай бұрын

    @@malcolmjohnson5941 I aint mad it. I get why they are doing it. I just don’t like it lol

  • @jonathonklein3731

    @jonathonklein3731

    8 ай бұрын

    I have a Bear Species and swapped the connected peep. I like the standard peep, but the single cam has the penchant to twist and move my peep around, which is annoying as hell.

  • @jacoblamkin
    @jacoblamkin8 ай бұрын

    I keep seeing the UV sight on that Hoyt! Sticking with it for the season?👀

  • @johnmurray7216
    @johnmurray72168 ай бұрын

    Gday mate, I own the Bear paradox which is virtually the same as the adapt. I set it up with my target gear, sight, scope, stabilisers, I shot the same score with it as I do the PSE Supra out to 50 metres.

  • @SheepdogConservation
    @SheepdogConservation8 ай бұрын

    You are gaining quite the collection my guy!! 😎 love how you highlighted the “made in USA”… it’s so special to me to look down and see that in the woods, gets me going!! ❤️🇺🇸

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    I love it too

  • @jacemyron6662
    @jacemyron66628 ай бұрын

    The 3 pin has a floater you are supposed to use a sight tape for longer range

  • @Ade24621
    @Ade246217 ай бұрын

    I love a Bear bow. Never had an issue with any of them. I started low price point for all the reasons suggested, as my archery improved, so my did my equipment. I still shot a Fred Bear, I'm still the limiting factor 😅

  • @paulshumate2904
    @paulshumate29048 ай бұрын

    That Bear Adapt is a great bow for the money , I've set up quite a few of them in my shop and everyone loves them. Great little hunting rig

  • @wyldmansix7

    @wyldmansix7

    7 ай бұрын

    Thoughts on the adapt vs resurgence?

  • @jackychandler8594
    @jackychandler85948 ай бұрын

    Interesting video. I've been bowhunting for for 44 yrs, and I've NEVER paid more than $350.00 for a bow. I've taken over 100 deer with what U guys call cheap bows. The difference is that I rarely ever shoot a deer over 15 yards. I've always gotten extremely close. I'm now interested in elk hunting, so I need to increase my distance shooting drastically. I'm grateful for Ur information here about the 2 bows and Ur confidence of the distance of both. Most deer that I've taken were point blank to 15 yds. Only shot a few beyond 25 yds.

  • @elkhntr7253

    @elkhntr7253

    7 ай бұрын

    I have hunted with many bows over the years, I currently have a limbsaver dz-32 but I bought a diamond edge sb1 new around $300 as a backup now I use it as my primary and have taken 3 bulls with it in the last 4 years.

  • @chetarmlin1196
    @chetarmlin11968 ай бұрын

    Some fine shooting at 55 yards. Myself I can't shoot that many without fatigue affecting my shots. Bravo!!

  • @ethanglawe5540
    @ethanglawe55407 ай бұрын

    Definitely make a hoyt vtm review! Especially with that battleworn finish!

  • @FloridaLeadSlingersoutdoors
    @FloridaLeadSlingersoutdoors8 ай бұрын

    Great video. I’d like to see you compare that Hoyt to the elite era

  • @cadelelon
    @cadelelon8 ай бұрын

    Get to 100k! 😂 I need an excuse to take my first trip to the CDA/Spokane area. Loving the content and style.

  • @Bhilderbrand
    @Bhilderbrand8 ай бұрын

    Ive been waiting for a video like this! I shoot a v3 and am interested in tbe adapt and how it will stack up!

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s hard to stack up against a flagship bow

  • @mjbaird99
    @mjbaird998 ай бұрын

    How well are each bow tuned?

  • @user-nv9no3ol3i
    @user-nv9no3ol3i5 ай бұрын

    This was more about the shooter than the bow. I have a Bear Encounter either a drop away and a a truglo single pin and it shoots every bit as accurate as my hoyt carbon spyder. The only difference is the speed at 313fps vs. 350fps ibo. I've shot both of these bows in long range 3d courses out to 120 yards. The issue was the shooter in this video, 15" groups at 50 yards is something I've only seen with beginners. Furthermore, the draw cycle on a single cam bow is one of the smoothest cycles you can get, don't hesitate to buy a Bear bow and trick it out.

  • @johncannady6105
    @johncannady61058 ай бұрын

    I think a different peep without the peep tube would increase the Bear's speed by a few fps!

  • @jamesjgill
    @jamesjgill3 ай бұрын

    If I had a bear adapt and I was going to upgrade one thing on the bow to shoot longer distances, I would probably upgrade the rest. Good comparisons Tim, and I think you provided some good consumer advice in this video.

  • @scottcox5412
    @scottcox54128 ай бұрын

    Very informative thank you.

  • @dustindavis697
    @dustindavis6978 ай бұрын

    Do the Podium Stabs align flush with a shrewd Atlas vbar?

  • @justinhamilton9
    @justinhamilton98 ай бұрын

    I’m a flagship guy. But it would be cool to see if that bow would improve with better accessories.

  • @vfonte218

    @vfonte218

    8 ай бұрын

    It would definitely perform better.

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Noted!!

  • @bertnichols6335
    @bertnichols63358 ай бұрын

    Love the video! Let me ask you this, how much “experience” was used in the tests? I mean, I’ve only been shooting archery for 1yr. I don’t think either one of the bows would matter. :)

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    You can grow into this stuff ✊

  • @mattthadd4663
    @mattthadd46638 ай бұрын

    I have a Hoyt Ventum 33 and a PSE Stinger Max. Came to the same conclusion you did. The stinger max is a great bow to about 60 yards set up how I like it (new strings, rest and stabilizers) the Hoyt is just a better shooting experience overall

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah that’s a very fair assessment.. flagships are tough to beat at range

  • @philiplucky7170
    @philiplucky71708 ай бұрын

    Awesome content as always what was the draw poundage on Bear Adapt

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    70lbs

  • @b1gmustang567
    @b1gmustang5677 ай бұрын

    First timer here. Bought the Bear. A few months ago. Been practicing at least once a week. Had it set up right.. Learned proper technique . Been shooting 10 and 8's pretty consistently out to 40. Haven't shot passed that yet and I've never shot anything else. So i have nothing to compare it too. My rubber has broke twice. Bought my ten year old a Bear composite bow he's doing great out to 20

  • @Electrazeek94
    @Electrazeek948 ай бұрын

    I almost bought an Adapt, but I shot a PSE Evo EVL. I was pre approved with the boss (wife) . Get what I wanted so I decided to spend some money lol. That Evo is the fastest thing I have ever shot and it makes it very forgiving for my quirks. I can't say how the Adapt was because I couldn't put the PSE down . Great video Tim! If I need a backup bow. I would go Adapt for the bang for your buck. 270 with 450 grain is smoking in my opinion.

  • @marshallhaslett8717
    @marshallhaslett87178 ай бұрын

    I was going to get that and then I went wayyy down the rabbit hole and got a PSE Unite for my first compound a few months ago.

  • @jumrobe
    @jumrobe8 ай бұрын

    Is the hoyt shooting a factory or aftermarket string? Either way, 299fps with 455gr arrow and 29" draw is blazing compared to what it's rated at.

  • @benfrank4274
    @benfrank42746 ай бұрын

    I got a bear adapt and it really is a great bow for the price. I shot 2.5 inch groups at 40 yards. I upgraded the peep and got a kiss on it and with 350 grain it shoots great. I used to shoot 400 but i wanted some more weight when hunting but either are more then fire.

  • @aaronshorter864
    @aaronshorter8648 ай бұрын

    With the Bear and any bow the longer you shoot it the better you will shoot better. They all have different grip, valley, and hold. To get in to archery they all are a machine that will get you in at all price points.

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @jordangleason4987
    @jordangleason49878 ай бұрын

    Great video! Review the Scott Verge release!

  • @Morpheen999
    @Morpheen9998 ай бұрын

    I started with an entry level bow, shooting 3-4 times a week.. It was only 1 year before I wanted to upgrade to a flagship bow.. Probably should've just spent more and got a better bow to begin with.. Love the VTM34

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Everything in due time & balance

  • @arturodelatorre4507
    @arturodelatorre45078 ай бұрын

    Cool video ! Do the upgrades and make a video about it to see the difference from stock.

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Good idea

  • @jimwood860
    @jimwood8607 ай бұрын

    Interesting comparison. My suspicion would be if that junky brush rest on the Bear went in the trash and a (decent) drop away were installed, it would have been a closer race out past 40.

  • @shawnmendrek3544
    @shawnmendrek35444 ай бұрын

    Any idea on archery training cost? not looking to do tournaments, yet, as I have too much priorities to do way before that level. Wonder if there is a way to include a artificial air MPH resistance test? For the gauge you use. For indoor testing I mean.

  • @woodworkerroyer8497
    @woodworkerroyer84976 ай бұрын

    I liked this. I want to see a build where you take a "good bones" bow, and accessorize it till its competing with the Hoyt. So, relatively budget bow, then upgrade accessories to where it gets much more accurate and whatnot, maybe to the point it even competes woth that Hoyt.

  • @carlparisi9749
    @carlparisi97498 ай бұрын

    Not finished with the video yet Tim but the camera work looks beautiful in the first few minutes 👏 👏

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for noticing my friend

  • @rfnrgj
    @rfnrgj7 ай бұрын

    In the chrono you didn't see if the pull lb was set at the same poundage for both bows! You could see the second bow was heavier draw.

  • @andrewkirkpatrick626
    @andrewkirkpatrick6268 ай бұрын

    In leaning towards getting the adapt next year can't beat the price for the quality and brand new depending where u can pick up adapt anywhere from 450 to 600 good choice if your not made of money but want a respectable bow shooting an older hoyt now but will hang it up as back up after this year

  • @Chad.Maness
    @Chad.Maness8 ай бұрын

    Great content as always.

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @andrewpierce2395
    @andrewpierce23957 ай бұрын

    whats with the extra 6 ring hole that magically appears at 6:41 on target 3?

  • @marshfootoutdoors
    @marshfootoutdoors8 ай бұрын

    Good video man. So, I just got an Adapt 1.0 not the plus, this July. I had custom strings put on it, got rid of the tube peep, dumped the TR sight for a CBE Tactic Micro 5 pin, left the TR V biscuit rest on it, put a TR 8” hitman stabilizer on it, and installed the cam stop, so nothin crazy. All still budget friendly upgrades. I have been practicing a lot with it and I can really stack em in there with it. I have a video on my IG shooting at 50 yards getting really a decent group(s) at a target about the size of a playing card, and that was after a lot of shooting that day and it was hot as hell and I was pretty fatigued, I have gotten even better groups at that range with it, arrows touching. I would mot hesitate to go to 60, 70, 80 and beyond with this bow, I, just max out at 50 at home. Anyway, with practice and form you can drop dimes with this bow. Thanks for the vid ✌️🇺🇸

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    ✊🤘

  • @tallcip65
    @tallcip658 ай бұрын

    I got the bear adapt and I have been accurate out to 50. I can hit at 60-70 but I’m not going to take that shot in the field. The rubber tubing broke on mine as well after about 200 shots but it was after the bow was in my truck in the heat for a while and I chalked it up to the rubber being hot and snapping when stretched. It reattached the tube and it was fine. That said when I got to camp and test fired it opening weekend I noticed that I had some peep twist. So an upgraded peep is definitely a solid upgrade recommendation.

  • @isaacbarragan7497

    @isaacbarragan7497

    7 ай бұрын

    You got lucky with the rubber tubing, mine broke after ten shots and the peep flew Back and hit my forehead

  • @FishEditRepeat
    @FishEditRepeat8 ай бұрын

    Awesome video bro your editing skills are insane let’s fish soon !

  • @daviddavidaycock9328
    @daviddavidaycock93287 ай бұрын

    How about doing the test again, but set up like it right. See if you can tighten the groups at distance.

  • @michaelc3416
    @michaelc34168 ай бұрын

    Is that the Adapt + or standard Adapt? Looks like the upgraded +. Either way, I get that you were shooting the Bear as it comes. But, as you did mention that you would put a better stabilizer on it, and add a back bar, it would have been nice if you had swapped those parts from the Hoyt to the Bear so we were more closely comparing the bows rather than the added accessories. Just curious of how well a "dressed up" Adapt would do against a $$$$ premium bow setup.

  • @Thedudeabides803
    @Thedudeabides8038 ай бұрын

    I shoot 4-5” 50 yard groups with my halon 32. No stabilizers. I’ve had many bows since my 2001 SQ2. When you find the bow you love, I don’t think there’s any reason to switch. I do like to watch videos on the newest stuff though. 🍿

  • @TheRedding89
    @TheRedding898 ай бұрын

    UV slider….. worth the money in your opinion? I’m in the market for a new sight but torn on the cost.

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Hard to say my friend.. I haven’t ran it through a season.. but if you don’t mind spending the cheese it’s a clean rig!

  • @jerrycowan3399
    @jerrycowan33997 ай бұрын

    Where did you get the black target at?

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    7 ай бұрын

    it's a 365 archery target from podiumarcher i have a discount code timc if it helps

  • @pattowle4434
    @pattowle44348 ай бұрын

    Nice review. Obviously not apples to apples , but you make a great point about get a bow and go shoot it. It’s like golf… get some clubs and go hit them. I do have a question….how many bows have you set up this year? 3-4-5? A guy has to know!😊

  • @allen131313
    @allen1313138 ай бұрын

    Swap the sights on the two bows. I bet that you would get different results. The old rule is to spend more on the accessories than on the bow. The sight on your Hoyt costs as much as the total cost of the Bear. It's not a fair test.

  • @Bagheera98

    @Bagheera98

    6 ай бұрын

    I think that's the point lmao. One set up is more expensive than the other....

  • @mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
    @mussersbowsboatsandscience66107 ай бұрын

    IBO 70 pound 350 grain arrow. The sight on the bear is good one.

  • @baptistepothet7453
    @baptistepothet74538 ай бұрын

    Nice vid! Not considering arrow rest as a valuable upgrade too?

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Depends on how much money a person wanted to spend

  • @DanielGuillette
    @DanielGuillette7 ай бұрын

    I think if that bear drop away rest and a tubeless peep you’d get some speed out of it, not as fast as the Hoyt but close. I’ve gone away from the yolk/ buds cable cam system to the newer binary cams. Most of the bear bows now have those, and that yolk constantly gets out of tune, that’s what keeps me away from some of the cheaper bows now. With binary cams, I’ve had bows hold perfect timing and tune for a year.

  • @camel7355
    @camel7355Ай бұрын

    Im a decent shot and was looking for a cheap hunting bow a few years back. Saw a $250 twin cam Diamond @ #65 with a 8"+ brace height amd 29" draw hanging on the used rack at the old bow shop one day. I put on an aluminum Octane rest, pops' old cobra sight and, well... it shoots. It even came with a slide on quiver. Needs new cables now though.

  • @jasonparks389
    @jasonparks3898 ай бұрын

    Not seen the HBC in a while do you not hunt with it or prefer the wrist trigger for hunting

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Prefer the trigger for hunting.. actually been messing with something new too

  • @fanboykc9140
    @fanboykc91403 ай бұрын

    I'm 3:00 min into this video right now. I literally tried both of these bows back in April '23 and went with the VTM 34. Please don't make me regret it by the end of the video. Lol! And now 13:00 min into the video, I definitely don't regret it! As you said the Bear is a great introductory bow. Asked my local pro shop guys if more expensive bows are worth it. They didn't try to upsell me; just said they see a lot of guys come in and get an introductory bow and quickly "outgrow" it once they get some good experience in and they end up buying the next bow up the price line. I didn't want to have to buy a second time and upsold myself. It's been fun the last few months shooting targets and tournaments with my boy who has been at it for 3+ yrs already, but we need to get out hunting. Its funny, when I tried the Bear the tube kept pulling free too.

  • @IowaDave1
    @IowaDave14 ай бұрын

    Could you list the accessories you put on the Hoyt?

  • @StanleyChock
    @StanleyChockАй бұрын

    As soon as I saw the blue monster, I was hooked.

  • @five9eight
    @five9eight8 ай бұрын

    Great vid, need more of this. How much to make the Bear better? As carbon flagships reach almost $2000 for a bare bow, a Bear bow might be better at some point! Take a flagship carbon bow, add high end string at setup, do the QAD, Tightspot, Stingers with offsets and kick back mounts and an HHA, your over $3000 with a dozen arrows. What do you gain? Real question! $3000 vs $1000 build off. "The best" vs "good enough!"🤔

  • @PhotoBob
    @PhotoBob8 ай бұрын

    Dammit now Im curious and want to tinker! Is it actually the bow or the accessories? Would a drop away tighten up the groups? Stabs? Thanks for taking the time to do this. I feel like the VTM didnt get the love it deserves this year. it's fast as hell and is a shooter. I want one!

  • @mrt3206

    @mrt3206

    8 ай бұрын

    Chris Bee did a video like this and he shot way better with his budget bow, sometimes he shot better with it then his high end bow, pretty sure he won a TAC truck using a budget bow as well in one of his videos

  • @PhotoBob

    @PhotoBob

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mrt3206 yeah I saw that. He also has immaculate form which might help with a biscuit. I personally shoot a biscuit so I’m not knocking it!

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Interesting thoughts!

  • @hack.hunter84
    @hack.hunter848 ай бұрын

    Keep Hammering!!! 😆 love the videos

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    Hammering 🔨🔨

  • @Jrod32391
    @Jrod323913 ай бұрын

    Is the Hoyt your primary bow and finer tuned to your liking? If so wouldn’t that be a large advantage.

  • @pensnut08
    @pensnut088 ай бұрын

    I noticed the sound of the bows.. Very quiet, both bows. I think a arrow rest change on the Bear would help the accuracy as well. Very fair testing, IMO. I take it you were more familiar with the Hoyt though... Which would effect accuracy test. Again, my opinion.

  • @toddwolfe9689
    @toddwolfe96898 ай бұрын

    Totally off topic haha but do you notice with those podium stabs that they actually added alittle vibe to the bow at the shot? I was real excited to try them on my prime revex 4 which is very dead on the shot, but was very disappointed in the added vibe caused by the podium stabs. Compared to my beestinger microhex which add zero vibe. Just curious if you experienced anything similar?

  • @TimConnor13

    @TimConnor13

    8 ай бұрын

    No sir.. worth a call maybe you got a goofed up one.. it should dampen felt vibration

  • @toddwolfe9689

    @toddwolfe9689

    8 ай бұрын

    Maybe... I'll call them tomorrow for sure.

  • @randyhutch50
    @randyhutch508 ай бұрын

    Did I miss if the draw weight was the same?

  • @RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures
    @RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures8 ай бұрын

    I bought my prime new 2021-22 fully accessories I'm into almost 3k but it's also a custom camo color and draw weight

  • @TheMono25
    @TheMono253 ай бұрын

    Is there anything I need to think about before I choose my bow When I do the triangle test My eyes go to the same distance each side So I don't know if I need left or right i'm a right handed person 😮

  • @anthonyalexander5607
    @anthonyalexander56079 күн бұрын

    WHAT LENS YOU USE ON YOUR CAMERA?

  • @adambauer2058
    @adambauer20586 ай бұрын

    What weight did the bear come in, I saw they come at 45-60 or 55-70?

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