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Hello I'm Mason Marangella, owner of Vertex Effects, The Rig Doctor, the First of My Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven Kingdoms, the Father of Dragons, the Khal of the Great Grass Sea, the Unburnt, the Breaker of Chains! xD

@SkyLukewater

Жыл бұрын

This is a funny comment haha

@NeilAloha

8 ай бұрын

That 💩 may be 2 years old but I’ve had 2 margaritas and I am in my back yard on the grass rolling 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤟🏿✌🏼🤟

@Stewartchampion

12 күн бұрын

I take it u got some nice bud 👌

Thanks for the tips! I am in the process of reconfiguring my board and will take these tips to heart.

I did a 4 year electronics course and a year of electrical, this was just common sense to me. My board is tidy and all cables and power run underneath and cable ties. I've been running an older MXR dc power brick. It's placed on the top left of the board, mounted underneath as well. I did however put a RF choke on the in coming ac line for it. Haven't had any noise issues from the board. I run 2 amps in stereo through a Earthquaker Swissthings (amazing pedal!). This issue for me was a phase issue from the 2 amps, but the Swissthings took care of that. I also bought heavy duty power cables for both amps that had better shielding and larger gauge wires. I run everything through the same power conditioner to keep things a common ground. This seems to work very well! It's always the small things that can make a huge difference. Great video content!

I had a noisy pedal one time. The only reason it was noisy was because the DC power supply plug was grounding out from the ring of the power plug was touching the enclosure & causing some wired ground loop. All I had to do was loosen all the screws & jacks & then maneuver the enclosure until it was properly centered & then slowly re-tighten the jacks & screws. Now it works perfect. I guess I got lucky.

0:20 power 2:42 3:47 routing 4:55 keep power in isolated part of board 6:10 audio x power cables

Awesome,best teacher for pedals..great info.

You can put (wrap, paint etc..)shielding around your older supply if it has a transformer and is causing issues

Great video! Thanks

Great content.

Way cool. Thanks for posting.

@sweetwater

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, Bobby! 👊

So very helpful, thanks so much! 🤘🤘

@sweetwater

3 жыл бұрын

😎👍

This is just an advanced add. Scary how integrated the add has become. I'm not looking at videos about pedals, - i'm looking at adds for pedals.

Cheers bro 🍸🍸

Hi Mason thank you for your videos, they made me improve my pedalboard knowledge. I have just one question that can help me a lot. In order to have an On Off switch for my pedalboard instead of plug power cable directly into the wall i putted a multi-socket down in my pedalboard. I have my cioks plugged into it so when i connect my pedalboard to power i can use my swich to turn on power in my pedalboard. The question is: does the multi-socket generate EMF? If yes how can i put an on off switch down in my pedalboard? I'd like to put a switch because i think it's safer for my pedals, i'm open to change my mind :)

Hello Dr., how come you never talked about ground lift I want to normalize it in my board

Is the Cioks DC8 still switch mode and just as good?

Thx for the tips Jack Black

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

Last video we did with Sweetwater someone said I looked like Geraldo Rivera...which one is it?

@megatyaesree

3 жыл бұрын

@@VertexEffectsInc don't know. 🤣

Hey, Mason! Terrific video! I am looking for a pedalboard and would like to ask: is it possible to use the 4-cable method with a noise gate and the patch bay of a pedalboard?

@sweetwater

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for your message, I believe we need to speak live to fully assist with your question. Four cable method isn’t pedal specific at all. It all boils down to where you split the signal chain (pre-amplifier vs effects loop) and how those pedals/processors are controlled. Really need to know more specifics about your rig/rig in process to fully answer your question. Please contact us direct with other questions as you have them! Robert Williams, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 2371, robert_williams@sweetwater.com

So would a power supply with a rechargeable integrated battery (specifically the Joyo rechargeable power supply), as opposed to the 9 volt battery, give the same results?

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

depends on the design, there isn't a "one size fits all" rechargeable circuit

What about patch cable plugs/covers touching each other or an adjacent pedal? Can that cause noise or does that not matter that much?

@graxjpg

3 жыл бұрын

Well you see, those plug covers are connected to the ground in the cables, so all the chassis of all your pedals are touching anyway.

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

Won’t matter if all things are working properly

Love it. Where is Mr. Bowcott? Killer staff!

Good video

Do buffer pedals makes noise?

What board is that with the 2 layers?

@UnixStudios

3 жыл бұрын

Stuff he builds. Look him up as “The rig doctor”

@highkoo98

3 жыл бұрын

Think it's a vertex pedalboard they have a bunch of that type

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

They’re listed in the description

Hi Mason, After doing my best troubleshooting, I’m stumped, so I’m hitting you up as the god of pedalboards, with hopes that my question and your answer will be useful to me an others! No matter what I do, I get a low but very distracting hum in my system. Touching any metal surface anywhere in the system, including strings, laptop, audio interface, pedals, etc., eliminates it, then it comes back when I release the touch, so I’m assuming it’s a ground loop. Here’s my setup and things I’ve tried. My setup is an acoustic rig for fiddle (Ithaca Strings/Aceto piezo pickup $500, so high quality) & mandolin (Fishman M300 piezo pickup at around $250). I also tested on a stock PRS SE Custom electric guitar. For testing I’ve stripped down to a very simple path - nothing else is connected to the power supply. The power is a CIOKS4. For the stripped-down test, this powers a Grace Design Bix pedal running into a GFI Specular Tempus, both in mono and both set at 9v, then going out to inputs (I’ve tried all: in-1, in-2, & HiZ) on a Universal Audio Solo/Arrow, running into a 2020 Macbook Pro laptop (via TB3, with Manley Voxbox plugin pre inserted into the unison slot (no other plugs are inserted), monitoring via AKG K240 headphones from the UA Solo. DAW is Ableton Live 10. Things I’ve tried, with no difference to this consistent hum: * I’ve tried 3 different 1/4” cables input and output cables of of at least decent quality levels, no longer than 15’, rotated through the system. Pedalboard patch cables are Ernie Ball P06220 Flat Ribbon right angle cables. * I’ve tried plugging the entire board into a different outlet on another breaker in the house. * I’ve tried isolating the entire pedalboard by powering it with a USB power cell. * I’ve tried inserting a cardboard ring between the instrument input and the 1/4” cable. * I’ve isolated each pedal to a single power outlet cable - no daisy chains, and I’ve removed all the remaining power outputs; only two items are plugged into the CIOKS power supply, & each is fully isolated. * I’ve tried lifting the Bix preamp pedal and moving it around to see if that changed the intensity of the hum, but it made no change. * I’ve tried removing the Voxbox pre. The hum got louder. * I’ve tried eliminating the pedalboard entirely by plugging each instrument directly into the UA Solo’s hi-Z input. This reduced the hum, but did not eliminate it. The hum had the same character. It was still too distracting for serious recording work. * I’ve tried the system with more pedals, daisy chains, etc., but the 60hz hum was present throughout, so I stripped it down to try to isolate. * I don't normally have 60hz hum coming through the UA Solo in other uses, so this only relates to the path I've described above. I’m stumped. Any ideas?

@phunkyjunkee

Жыл бұрын

Have you tried a power conditioner?

@soulslip

Жыл бұрын

The laptop is the weakest link in the chain fyi.... guarantee that is where it is coming from. Been dealing with this for some time... cpu are not shielded properly to stop mains cycle ground hum. The only way so far i have found at eliminating it was with a passive ground elimination box. Like the ART dti hum eliminator... they come in 1,2 all the way to 8+ channel which absolutely will eliminate your issue. You need to “break” or “lift” the ground away from the signal.... there are more diy methods but i opted for the dti as it was cheap and worked perfectly and sounds 1:1 great!

Messing around playin backing tracks thru a blue tooth speaker put it on my pickups to play thru looper . I actually got morse code coming out my amp lol

I very much want Cioks to call their 8-slot the DC-8, so it would fit into my aviation/space themed pedalboard. DC-7 is not QUITE large enough for what I am doing.

what kind of 1/4 in jacks do you use?

@ggockma20

7 ай бұрын

moogami

Is a pedal power 2 like the chocks one you have there, or is it the old school type ?

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a linear supply, old school

@erpringle

3 жыл бұрын

Never had a problem with voodoo lab power supply and have used them for many years under my board. J.S.

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

@@erpringle pedal power 2 will be the least problematic because it's steel. The aluminum linear supplies that followed it are the ones that typically are more tricky to use without noise if you put them in the wrong location on the board.

@erpringle

3 жыл бұрын

@@VertexEffectsInc just don't put them near a wah.

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

@@erpringle that's one place that you'll have an issue (wah because of the inductor, especially if it doesn't have a mumetal can around it), but you can also have issues just running audio lines in the magnetic field. The linear power supply models with aluminum chassises will have many more problems with this and it'll be way more problematic with pedals or cables that come into the field.

I find this kind of content most useful when it focuses my attention on things I need to worry about. And while I am a fan of Sweetwater, I don't think casting doubt on pro quality power supplies like the Voodoo Lab PP2+ or solderless cables was a good use of my time. Also, I would feel more comfortable if these recommendations came from a different spokesperson.

@g.w.thurmond3691

3 жыл бұрын

It's true, solderless cables are inferior to soldered cables. It's true, a linear power supply will have drawbacks compared to the switching power supply. Nothing said here is untrue. Sub the spokesman, it doesn't change the facts.

595 thumbs up, and 29 people who can't hear the tips because their pedalboard is too noisy.

Hi. What's my alternative for velcoros? I want my pedals to be in place but I want another option other than velcro. Thanks!

@kidcoastless8575

3 жыл бұрын

3M Dual Lock is what he has previously recommended, as well as other peeps on YT such as Rhett Shull and the lads on That Pedal Show

@gerardlopez4109

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sandaux Beats! Take a look at Aclam guitars pedalboard system! No velcro and pedals stay safe

@SandauxBeats

3 жыл бұрын

@@gerardlopez4109 Thank you, good sir!

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

@@SandauxBeats What Dtyelr5603 said!

@SandauxBeats

3 жыл бұрын

@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks! I'm checking for non-Velcro or non-3M Dual Lock alternative.

🤘

@frankgenusa8453

3 жыл бұрын

I LMAO at that battery supply.

Is strymon zuma switch mode ?

@michael_caz_nyc

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what I want to know? I use a VooDoo Labs ISO-5 and a Strymon Zuma and both are whisper quiet. Furman 6 outlet from the wall - too.

@KunchangLeeMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@michael_caz_nyc do you find that the strymon is quieter ?

@michael_caz_nyc

3 жыл бұрын

@@KunchangLeeMusic Only in relation to where I place my Wah pedal. I can put my Wah right-next to the Zuma, but not next to the ISO, but they are both very-Quiet. Using all Mogami cables too.

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

I LMAO at that battery supply. We guitarists are truly a finicky bunch.

@graxjpg

3 жыл бұрын

seriously! And apparently they swear by putting the cheap dollar store batteries in there.

@frankgenusa8453

3 жыл бұрын

@@graxjpg It's all about reduced voltage, cheap batteries die faster, but Eric Johnson still swears by Duracell 😏

@graxjpg

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankgenusa8453 if it’s good enough for him, it’s good enough for me!

@mattmarrs129

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t believe it. You know what is a true isolated power supply? A battery... inside of a pedal. It’s one thing if you are trying to market it as an easy way to swap out batteries without pulling the pedal off your board or needing a screw driver, but to try and say that the batteries are more isolated in this enclosure they built versus the pedal housing is literally laughable

This video is just one sales pitch

I know you as the guy who rebranded a BBE wah and sold it as your own for $400. Sweetwater should know this too and not associate with the likes of you. No room for D-bags in the pedal game. Not cool!

@tonyscalora6808

3 жыл бұрын

That's just the tip of the iceberg. The guy is a career conman. I'm definitely redirecting my purchases away from Sweetwater after seeing this. Gross

This kicks ass, Sweetwater. And so does Mason. Thank you.

Tip 1: Buy a Line 6 Helix.

Mason is the best in the business!

The best tip for a quieter pedalboard would be to tell mason to shut the hell up.

Sunbeam batteries in there? Seriously?

@aaronashear3002

3 жыл бұрын

the guys who swear by batteries often swear by cheap batteries. Zinc. It's a thing, apparently.

@graxjpg

3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronashear3002 I’m gonna look into that! I prefer not to have to change them so often, or even think about them so I like workaholics. Seems like a crazy thing to prefer cheap batteries

@jwstout007

3 жыл бұрын

@@graxjpg Mason did another video about these cheap batteries and how their charge depletes versus higher end 9V. From what I can remember, it has something to do with slightly depriving your vintage pedals of energy as if it were a battery charge from that era. Might be Mason that talked about it, or it might be the old roady they call Squiggy down at my local dive, it's been awhile =P

@graxjpg

3 жыл бұрын

@@jwstout007 wanting a depleted charge seems literally ridiculous, when you consider reliability. To design a power supply that would act how he wants would not take a genius.

@rgr4929

3 жыл бұрын

@@graxjpg there are some vintage fuzz that sound great on 7'5v for example. A cheap battery can do this, a alkaline one doesn't.

I'm guessing "sawder" is solder.

@VertexEffectsInc

3 жыл бұрын

hahahah, yes! A consequence of being an American.

@svT647

3 жыл бұрын

@@VertexEffectsInc haha I thought so!

I just lost a lot of respect for sweetwater.

@DIGITAL7Media

3 жыл бұрын

It's ok. I just gained some so it all evens out ; )

@Erickchicas

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely that guy is a disease.

@christian_silo

3 жыл бұрын

Just started watching this guy. What's wrong w him?

@Erickchicas

3 жыл бұрын

@@christian_silo he has a history of lying and scamming people, his most famous one is the rebadge BBE wah sold as the axis wah for twice the price getting caught and started threatening people until it was not possible to lie and then spin that into "I learned my lesson" just google vertex and bbe wah, vertex and bonamassa letter, (He scammed bonamasssa too) vertex and landau (landau was ashamed of having his name attached to this crook) Also the lies about the belden cables, using other peoples board as his own built to get customers, lying about how his boost pedal works, lying about cloning pedals saying he has research and created circuits, insulting analogman and keeley, saying they are fake boutique, I could go on and on but you get the idea. Don't believe me, look for the info. But I'm never giving one cent to this scammer when there are so many great builders out there. Shame on Sweetwater for promoting someone like him.

@g.w.thurmond3691

3 жыл бұрын

@@Erickchicas I suppose you ransom every business that you deal with to share your point of view with this "or else" attitude. Mason did about as good of a job as I've ever seen a company do with a public screw up like this. If only our banks, our pharmaceuticals companies, our politicians were willing to resolve things and be accountable in such a way. Please point me to someone that screw up like this and did a better job than Mason did in resolving it? Please? As someone that owned his wah pedal and was paid back in full I feel I'm a more appropriate person to be outraged than you are.

Are there any budget-friendly options? This guy wants you to spend your whole paycheck for a pair of freaking mogami cables 🙄

Six Tips for a Quieter Pedalboard 1. Fire your bassist 2. ...

tips for quieter board.... "buy a new power supply" yeah no thanks my walrus one should do fine..SHOULD. I can't tame my ampeg scrambler clone or my wah

Why is this just one big commercial rant for your product that most guitarists like me really don’t need and can’t afford? I actually thought there’d be a thing or two mentioned that would be beneficial, but alas, there wasn’t. 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

Oh this guy again. Only thing this pedal gooper does is make me trust Sweetwater less.

I like to pronounce cioks CY-OX