I did a lot of research and picked a .308. it is a do it all cartridge. Affordable, plentiful and gets the job done.

@stinkbean1

5 ай бұрын

Yep. The 308 is a great round. The .30-06 is slightly better, but I haven’t found a reasonably priced AR .30-06 platform.

@josh2711

5 ай бұрын

@@stinkbean1but what about 300wm, but what about 300prc. It’s always so hard to hear these debates without any tactical considerations. Why was 308 so popular for so long and still popular? Tactical considerations, same with the rise of 6.5c. 30-06 belongs in a bolt or a mounted machine gun, not in a lightweight semiautomatic.

@BS-tm6xq

5 ай бұрын

.270 .308 6.5 are all very close. Wouldn't know the difference if they weren't labeled

@flynnryder7798

5 ай бұрын

@@stinkbean1bear creek arsenal hunt master

@ericvantassell6809

3 ай бұрын

@@BS-tm6xq when your vision was still good you could tell at least which one was the .308

7mm-08 one of the most underrated cartridges out there

@futurechamp2

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@patrickgrolemund545

Жыл бұрын

My most-used cartridge. Love it.

@n2omike

Жыл бұрын

Everyone wants the new 'cool kids' cartridge... 6.5 is the cool number now, whether it is the C or the PRC. 7mm-08 is equivalent to the C and 270 Win in equivalent to the PRC. The older cartridges will kill anything the new ones will. It's 99% MARKETING... a pitch to make people think they need to buy new guns to replace/augment what they already have. lol

@nicholaswiler8401

Жыл бұрын

tbh its overrated its basically just a 308 but way faster way too fast at that

@Jay-ik1ge

Жыл бұрын

Have a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 7mm-08. Like them both. Don’t shoot my 7mm-08 much anymore because the ammo is hard to find and when I can it’s expensive.

If I had 1 bullet to shoot instead of the 6.5CM would be the .270 for sure! The .270 is a great round100% but the most important thing is to have a gun that you’re comfortable with and accurate! All of them will work!!!

Just can't go wrong with the 270. It's been my favorite high powered rifle caliber for the past 30 years

@Swearengen1980

Жыл бұрын

Ditto. It's just a shame the ammo options don't get the attention that .308 and 6.5 get.

@eastsidemerez9117

5 ай бұрын

He deff has marriage issues

I think 30-06 is still an awesome cartridge. 30-06 can do nearly anything many more modern cartridges can. The BC and trajectory of the 30-06 leaves a bit to be desired in some situations, but it’s an all around great round that has been doing heavy lifting for a long long time.

@jacobmullins3644

Жыл бұрын

With the more modern projectiles the bcs are getting better for it but at the end of the day it isn't bcs that kill the deer it's energy upon impact

@fkreller1

Жыл бұрын

I'm a 270 Win guy, but it's really hard to argue with the aught 6. I mean, you can sometimes find ammo for it in a freaking gas station!

@ronaldlollis8895

Жыл бұрын

There are a multitude of excellent cartridges from 6mm/.243 to .338/8/9mm range that have averaged to ‘exceptional’ paper ballistic numbers. The 6mm Remington was birthed before the .243 and never really took off in the same popularity; however, even in the 1950’s era of green/yellow box off the shelf core lokt ammo it has way better ballistics than the .243 or the 6CrdMr. It has a cult following and you pretty much have to reload for it, but it’s out there. I grew up on a pre-64 M70 ‘06, so I am very partial to it, the range of bullet sizes and uses for it is remarkable and yes, you can pretty much find it anywhere in the world. The Hornady 165gr SST load is hands down precise accurate and drops deer where they stand. It wouldn’t be my first choice to intentionally go after dangerous game, but if it was what I had in my hand at the moment, I know it is adequate. I was kind of surprised he didn’t include the 6.5x55 Swede, which worldwide has probably taken more game than the ‘06 or the ubiquitous .30-30. .257 Roberts, though I have no personal experience with it, is legendary on deer sized game, but good luck finding it on the shelf these days. 7x57 is also a great deer cartridge, but again, you need to reload for it to get the best performance out of it. That’s just my .02 cents worth on it.

@teammosin9999

Жыл бұрын

Right on! Especially if you just hunt deer at normal hunting distances. .30-06 really cannot be beat if that's the case!

@davidjones8942

Жыл бұрын

@@teammosin9999 if all you want is deer at 100 yds, I'd favor a 30-30..... a LOT lighter to carry my model 94 trapper than a "real" hunting rifle. And if a bear charges, I'll get 3 or 4 rounds into him before he eats me!! 🤣🤣🤣

I recently chose the 308 for my dedicated hunting rifle, and I've not had a smidgen of regret. I've got no interest in hunting past 400 yards. I can hunt any non dangerous game in north america with the 308 for less money. I appreciate you including this old beauty as I know you hunt in open country and probably almost never use it for hunting.

@hispeedbullet2661

Жыл бұрын

The 308 is a great cartridge for Africa as well. I took a wildebeest, impala, blesbok, kudu, and zebra with a 308 and had zero problems.

@pedropistolas8497

Жыл бұрын

Mines for sale now, just to consolidate calibers, but I used it on 4 deer and an antelope hunt here in WY. Great, lightweight, handy little rifle with a 18" barrel. 400 is right at the end but still satisfactory for deer and antelope, potentially elk with the right bullet and conditions. And it's undeniable in terms of ammo availability in my area over the last few years

@boundarysentinel4181

Жыл бұрын

Hello from Canada, .308!does it all up here Elk,Moose, Deer, Bear,!Bison all for pennies for what the 6.5CM rounds cost. And 6.5 extremely uncommon to find in Canada, .308 everywhere

@satched

Жыл бұрын

I did also. Have a 300 norma for. Super long range. But 308 for hunting. Main reasons. Ammo availability and can run subsonic ammo. Saves getting a 300 blackout as well. It's a good proven cartridge

@jfox71

Жыл бұрын

I did the same this year. Savage ultralite in 308. Ammo availability and ammo prices were a huge factor for me. I own several other rifles in various cartridges but the 308 does almost everything well.

In 1985 I bought a .270 Win for hunting deer and elk. In the 38 years since then, I have yet to hear a compelling reason why I "need" to buy something else. The same could be said for a host of other cartridges that are based on the .30-06 or .308 case. The one new cartridge that I find interesting is the 6.8 Fury because it's the military's nod back toward battle rounds that perform pretty much like the 120 year old .270. The more we change, the more we stay the same.

@neilbuckley6293

4 ай бұрын

I bought my model 70 Winchester in 270 in the early 1980s. It is hard to beat I had a shoulder replacement a few years ago. I still shoot my 270 without any problems. It is still fun to shoot and kills game. Without killing me.😂

The reason i love these convos is because everyone wants the best or newest. Thank you for keeping .308 so cheap 😁

Here in Romania there is one caliber and is iconic, the old friend 30-06. It is so versatile if you choose wisely. We have big game like large stags and big bears. Not to mention that you can borrow anytime a couple of rounds from any fellow hunter in your group. A good scope and you can hunt almost eveything. For the dense forest I trust my Winchester lever action chambered in 30-30.

@SlavicCelery

Жыл бұрын

30-06 can be a zippy relatively low recoil cartridge. Or it can throw a large sizzling hunk of hate downrange with a different load. There's so much ammo available, and if you reload the options are nearly endless.

@josephpadula2283

Жыл бұрын

Horia 30-30 and 30/06? In the USA that would have been The same two favorites until about 1970.

@horiacioflan6128

Жыл бұрын

@@SlavicCelery Yes, and very versatile indeed. In relatively dense forests 30-30 is the king I think.

@leebaker2588

Жыл бұрын

I have a 356 Winchester lever for the dense timber. Hard to find the ammo. Can't beat a 30-06 with a 180 gr Nosler Partition. These two will be around long after the others have faded away.

@markgamblin1366

Жыл бұрын

I don't even have a hunting 06 (unless you count my Garand or 1903 Springfield) and I agree with you! I use a .308 to hunt with.

When I look at the ballistics of 6.5 Creedmoor and of the 6,5x55 Swedish the ballistics are similar and the 6.5x55 Swedish originated in the 1890s. In the Scandanavian countries the 6.5x55 is commonly used on European moose.

@life_of_riley88

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's also lower pressure, so throats and barrel bores last longer. 6.5 swede is a beauty.

@PassivePortfolios

Жыл бұрын

The Swedes knew what they were doing back then when they settled on the 6.5 caliber. They were way ahead of their time.

@westtexan2263

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Karamojo Bell used the 7X57 Mauser to kill elephants. He would shoot one and when it went down he would run and jump up on it to gain higher ground to shoot another one. He killed way more elephants than one man should ever be aloud to.

@pigtailbbq1982

Жыл бұрын

@@life_of_riley88 I'm working on some 6.5x55 brass with this video in the background. The creedmoor might be good but it is so in vogue to have one that there's no way I would.

@life_of_riley88

Жыл бұрын

@@pigtailbbq1982 You sound a lot like me. My wife always says: "You just can't have something that everyone else has, can you? It's always gotta be unique!" She's right, and I could probably not own a 6.5 creedmoor unless it falls outta favor.

I went with a 6.5 Swede CZ 557...had an old M96 Carl Gustaf Mauser that shot really well with only iron sights n surplus ammo. That inspired me to try the CZ...140 gr Sierra MKs over IMR4350 got me 1/3 MOA groups at 100 yards n even better at 200. They seemed to settle down more at distance. Fantastic caliber!

@deltanovember9621

11 ай бұрын

Yes, 6.5x55 been used to kill elk, deer and germans in Norway. Everything dies when u hit it with 6.5x55

@timclaus8313

10 ай бұрын

@@deltanovember9621 Paper ballistics aren't all that great, but real world hunting ballistics are pretty darn impressive. And over generations.

@rabidsquirrel314

8 ай бұрын

I absolutely love my Gustav m96. Luvo arms in Czech Republic makes an AR platform 6.5x55. I want one sooo bad. I'd take a ljungman m42 pretty quick too. There's just something special about the round. Kinda tricky finding ammo sometimes and a little pricy for good ammo. I really like the Hornaday sst.

@jeffryheintz5738

3 ай бұрын

I have a 6.5 Swede myself, built it on a FN Mauser action, in a Walnut Thumb hole stock. barrel is a Krieger target profile with 5R rifling. also have an M38 Husqvarna, and an M94 carbine. Hard to beat a Swede.

@timk4502

3 ай бұрын

Yep. My go to deer rifle for the past 45 years has been a 1917 Carl Gustav 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser! Got it from my dad. He restocked it with a roll-over cheekpiece Wooden Stock in the 60's. Still has an old 4x Weaver Scope. Thinking about getting me a 6.5 Creedmoor so I can replace the Mauser. If I ever need anything bigger, I figure a .338 Lapua will do the job! 😁

Id really like to see you talk more about the 7mm08 I know there are so many new fancy calibers out there to talk about. To me the 7mm08 has gotten relegated to a youth rifle cartridge when mostly it beats the 308 in almost everything except for the heavier bullets. Again I know there are lots of new cartridges out there. When I talk about the 7mm08 to people the first thing they bring up is how does it do at 1000 yards. I just say I dont know because 1000 yards is out of the skill level of most hunters here in east TN. I really enjoy your videos and thank you for all the time you devote to the shooting sport.

I have been using the .270 Winchester on smaller sized game and the .300 Win Mag for larger sized game for over 40 years now. They have ALWAYS worked as needed. No need for me to change things up now.

@BMWQC

Жыл бұрын

Same here and I have no reason to change.

@timtorkelson7201

7 ай бұрын

I'm similar, 30-06 / 300 WM, love my 300, aThumper!

I'm a huge fan of the 270 WIN . Always available, shoots flat, plenty of power, and overall fun to shoot.

@davidjones8942

Жыл бұрын

Everyone has different priorties when choosing a cartridge, and so everyone will have different favorites, but I'm solid with you on the .270. I think it has the perfect sweet spot if hunting is in your list of priorities. For a fun gun instead of hunting, I'll take 6.5CR or even 5.56

@chaseacklam6174

Жыл бұрын

​@@davidjones8942 I grabbed a howa mini action in 7.62x39 for my "fun gun", 22inch barrel, howa guarantees sub-moa accuracy (With hornady black), I've got some bulk serbian brass cased stuff that was 40cent/rnd and has shot 1.5moa consistently, its ballistically similar to a 30-30, the list just goes on. 270 win is my go for deer but that little howa is great fun and great on coyotes

@mikerayle6103

Жыл бұрын

.270 for the win 🏆 tried and true. Also 7mm rem mag although a tiny bit newer round and a little more recoil both are good choices.

@davidjones8942

Жыл бұрын

@Mike Rayle I was shocked how close the ballistics between 7mm mag & .270 are (139gr for the 7mm & 129gr for .270 both Barnes LRX bullets). While 7mm mag is a great round, I just can't justify the extra cost, recoil, and barrel wear for such a tiny ballistic advantage.

@n2omike

Жыл бұрын

270 Win completely outclasses the 6.5 Creedmore when hunting. No comparison.

257 Roberts is another very effective and mild shooting cartridge that is often overlooked. Like the 6.5 Swede, it just gets the job done at normal hunting ranges.

30-06 hands down the most versatile and humane round. I've been using 30-06 for the past two decades. I've shot many game. Most of them drop in their tracks. The two whitetail that I can recall didn't drop in their tracks, one was a bad lower leg shot (awkward angle so I dropped and pulled and simply had a poor shot) and two was a 200yrd shot that hit the heart (due to the drop; sighted at 50 yrds and aimed for the spine) ran around 70 yards.

7mm08 it's just a nice balance of recoil and performance

.270 and 7mm-08 are my favorites. 7-08 should hold much more shelf space than it does and it’s unfortunately the only reason I don’t currently own one. IMO 7mm-08 is the best short action non magnum for medium to large game. If only ammo manufacturers would have their marketing department read the internet. Tons and tons of people begging for more 7-08 ammunition and appropriate pricing to match with the 243/308 cartridges.

@allanbaker659

Жыл бұрын

you r right! benchmark barrels did a test a few years ago and found the 7 08 gave the best bang for the buck. esp in short barrels, ie 20 inches or less. in short barrels even the magnums don't do do better.

@ScooterLee-ei1ep

Жыл бұрын

The 7mm-08 does really do much better than .308 in hunting. Which is why it’s not that popular. It’s popular most in comp. and even then it’s really only used in silhouette.

@waltercolvin3723

Жыл бұрын

Have one wish It was more popular

@riverwalker2173

Жыл бұрын

Perplexed as well that the 7mm-08 doesn't get the factory ammo love it should?#@! Low recoil, good stopping power for Elk sized game. A no brainer!

@Dennisthemenace40

Жыл бұрын

The 7mm08 was the 6.5 Creedmoor before the 6.5 Creedmoor was…itself. If you know what I mean.

Started with the 25-06 in the Iate 80's. FortunateIy I was introduced to this cartridge by an avid reloader. One sweet shooting round that few are familiar with and fewer have actually used. It brings down deer effortIessIy, usually where they stand. ReIoads easily, minimaI recoil through average weight rifles, and it's accuracy gives away nothing to any but the most intricateIy tuned custom rifles.

@WR_CTorch

Жыл бұрын

Well, it looks like there is at least 13 of us 25-06 guys. 😂 I’ve been using mine since the early 90’s. I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the numbers when compared to the 6.5 Creedmoor

@JohnThreeTwelve

Жыл бұрын

25-06 is just awesome.

@JohnThreeTwelve

Жыл бұрын

@@r3tr0sp3ct3r 100% agree.

@JohnThreeTwelve

Жыл бұрын

@@r3tr0sp3ct3r 120gr in 7mm-08 is right there with them as well.

@JohnThreeTwelve

Жыл бұрын

@@r3tr0sp3ct3r My brother shoots an 06, and he absolutely loves the 150s in it. I think NBT are all he shoots in it. I'm not sure he's even tried anything else. Haha.

I have a thing for the old classic cartridges that have been around for over 100 years. The 6.5x55 has done it all. Every bit as good as the Creedmoor, and talk about a history!

@gregrn779

Жыл бұрын

yup, the 6.5x55 Swede. Is essentially the same thing ballistically as the super cool 6.5CM, it just figured it out 100 years ago. In a strong 💪🏽 modern action and good handloads it’s way faster than the CM and right up there with the 6.5PRC

@user-kn3pi3dq3k

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree, the WW2 Era Swedish Mauser had it right the first time.

@Alhu90

Жыл бұрын

This was one of the cartridges that I thought I'd see in the video but after a short research it turns out, it never made it's way to US in that scale as we see it in Europe.

@lyellclare9365

Жыл бұрын

Bang on. I have a Swede on a Tikka 695 and it's still a tack driver despite its age and the large number of rounds it has fired.

@carstenrenekjrulff6272

Жыл бұрын

@@Alhu90 just wait and see.....soon the 6.5x55 will conquer the US too. I'm a massive fan of 7.92x57 and the .338 Lapua Magnum. BUT....if I was to spend a whole day on the range with targets from 100-500 meters (109-546 yards for those stuck in the middle ages ;) ) my pick will always be 6.5x55.

260 rem. Very underrated cartridge. Never took off back in the 1990's.

@StumpkillerCP

Жыл бұрын

That's what I use for whitetail. 130 gr Swift Scirocco II at 2,860 fps muzzle in a shorter-weight Savage M11 rifle & Leupold VX5-HD 3-15x scope with a CDS turret for that load. Sweet. Just a fantastic whitetail cartridge. Grim death on varmints as well. Bad news in NY, however. We cannot buy "mail order" ammo any longer. So the .260 Rem is dead unless you are a reloader (happily, I am).

@christocombrink5925

Жыл бұрын

I also prefer the 260rem over 6.5 Creedmoor

@allanbaker659

Жыл бұрын

love it! in south africa it has a huge following!

@christocombrink5925

Жыл бұрын

@@allanbaker659 I hope platforms like these give more info and coverage on the 260rem as it is such a good cartridge

@martyh9095

Жыл бұрын

260 REM a great cartridge. Too bad it was ahead of it’s time and didn’t know it.

7mm-08, if it was on more shelves and more variety of guns, this cartridge should rock a lot more than it does!

@markgalyen38

Жыл бұрын

One thing about the 708 is it's perfect for North America.. it's a rifle you can hand to anyone and send them out after deer, elk, moose. And not be afraid of the recoil hurting them. Yes it can be fun to see a grown man cry from the recoil of a 300 win. But not very nice

@toddparsons2980

Жыл бұрын

Agree.

@ryanpointer2703

Жыл бұрын

@@markgalyen38 couldn’t have said it better!

I went with 7mm08 years ago when I was actually looking for a 270. Never regretted my choice. Recoil is very acceptable and game wise very versatile. I don't have the budget to have a gun safe the size of most bedrooms, let alone the number of guns to fill it.

Lmbo!!! Sounds like you’re speaking from experience with the twin sister! Let’s get together bro! Loving your content!!!

I recently chose 270 for my wife’s new rifle. She handles the recoil very well and took her first elk this year with it. @ 170 yards, killed it clean. Very impressive results with a 150 grain partition.

7mm Rem Mag. Huge fan of 7mm caliber, reasonable recoil and trajectory, plenty of bullet weights to choose from.

@mikeford963

Жыл бұрын

Sooo prefer my 7mm over a .300 win mag! WAY less recoil, much nicer to shoot in a "standard" rifle.

@billyboy861

Жыл бұрын

I second this great hunting or Target rifle lots of ammo available priced Right 7mm rem mag all day long

@wisconsinfarmer4742

Жыл бұрын

@@billyboy861 I dunno who, but some survey put the 7mm rem at the top. They are all fun to play with. Many good tools will do the job in practiced hands.

My go to is a 25-06. I love this caliber. It has essentially shelved my 300 win mag. Cheaper ammo less recoil and kills deer just as good. Getting ready to buy a 2nd one for my son who is currently shooting a 250 savage. Which is even harder to find ammunition for. Soo I've got a thing for guns you have to hunt harder for ammo than the game you're using it for! Lol regardless the 25-06 is my all time favorite whitetail round

@NoTaboos

Жыл бұрын

You can always order a case of 200 25-06. No problem for me, and I live in Australia.

@leftyeh6495

Жыл бұрын

If you reload, you can punch the 250 savage out to the Ackley improved version and get fairly close to 3000fps with 100grn bullets.

@meanermater1310

2 ай бұрын

Check out hendershots custom ammunition, they have lots of load choices for the .250 savage. I use alot of their ammo and absolutely love em

If you have to have a 6.5, go with a .264 Win. Mag. I don’t have any 6.5s but have been using 7mm-08 and not one deer has ever complained. If I need more unmph, I take the .300 Win. Mag. Those two cover a lot of ground.

@timtorkelson7201

7 ай бұрын

Spot on!

I think the 25.06 is a very underrated caliber

@Meh-hr7gq

Жыл бұрын

Meh, after 20 years I sold mine. Now I just shoot the 6.5, it does everything the long action 25-06 can do……just better.

@danhouser8472

Жыл бұрын

25.06 is by far my favorite coyote round

@Brandenuzis

Жыл бұрын

@@danhouser8472 i coyote hunt a lot with the 204 ruger with 32 grainers and it smokes em

@happyhankjr

Жыл бұрын

Even better, in my opinion, is the 6.5mm-06.

@Mr.Obvious-

Жыл бұрын

I would take a 25-06 over a 6.5 any day I have killed deer over 400 yards with them and the 6,5 CM out at 250 yards and 150 yards I have had to shoot the deer 3 times with a 143 gr ELDX. Sad that they don't have a bullet that gets the job done yet, I am yet to find the right bullet for deer in the 6.5 CM . Does anyone know what bullet in the 6.5 will do a pass threw and leave a blood trail I am all ears. Thanks.

.30-06. Reasons: Depending on bullet selection and how it is loaded, it will have the same trajectory as the 6.5 creedmoor. If you don't believe me, check out the 140 nosler bt for 6.5 and the 180 nosler bt for the 308 cal. Secondly, your versatility does go higher for size of game shot in the vitals. Temporary wound cavity will be bigger, regardless of bullet, for the -06 over the 6.5 cm. 3rd, from a hand loader's perspective, the -06 has more room for performance "upgrades" and response than the 6.5 cm. Looking at load data, the cm seems to us sit nicely in a max velocity and doesn't like moving too much. Barrel length seem to bee the biggest factor to dig up more performance. The 30-06 can be loaded with 180's and a 26" barrel and be going 2900 fps which is close to a mid 300 Win mag loading. The cm with a 140, 26" barrel, hottest powder will only get around 2800 fps. 4th: This is being nit picky: but bullet selection is in a broader range with the .308 cal compared to the 6.5 cal. 5th: This is anecdotal: -06 has aided in the winning of two world wars. And who doesn't want an M1 Garand?

@danblumel

Жыл бұрын

I've shot 3 Moose (2 cows, 1 Bull) and countless Elk, a few deer with my M1 Garand 30-06.

@exothermal.sprocket

Жыл бұрын

America has most always been a .30 caliber Nation. For good reason. Variety is nice, is spice, but it can sometimes be distracting. .30-06 is a formula developed a long time ago that hit most all the right features.

@ajkubik3588

Жыл бұрын

I worked in an ammo loading facility as an ammo loader for a few years and we have a custom load we made up for someone for 6.5 creedmoor with a 140 grain Berger vld at 2900fps and 2613.83 ft pounds that intrigued me so I snagged a few boxes That I still have with the specs on. We pressure tested them in a test barrel and the pressures were on the real high end of max saami specs but still we’re safe and checked the primers for signs of over pressuring and we never found any signs and fired them out of multiple guns with no issues. So it’s doable to be slightly higher with a creedmoor but that’s probably the max I would ever see someone push it. I’m not positive on the powder we used for it but I wanna say possibly h4350 but the round was for a bolt action that we had the magazine specs for so we were able to load the case with close to max powder capacity and seat the projectile enough to make sure it would still feed and fire safely. But I believe sierras game changer load is 2950 fps in a 130 grain which my buddy has taken a few black bear with. I believe the rounds more versatile than people think but it’s definitely not gonna have the high energy like a win mag for big game. People still use em for coyotes, deer, black bear, occasionally I’ve seen em used on elk but that’s probably the only things I’d use one for but I typically deer hunt. Still find myself using my 270 or 30/06 for em though, only picked up a creedmoor because it’s what we loaded the most of and I got good discounts on on the ammo that was scratched and scuffed up that qc didn’t pass😂

@wyattgraham5711

Жыл бұрын

@@ajkubik3588 that’s a good load. Any idea on the grains in that? My brother in law and I are getting some 6.5’s

My and my brother were around for the 7mm-08 craze back in the day and he got one and still has it but that being said I would say 308 to answer your question 1.) It's very cheap to shoot 2.) It's light enough recoiling that almost anyone in the family van easily handle it 3.) It's very flat shooting, ok not as flat as 6.5 Creedmoor but I just don't think $50 for 20 rds is justified for the small tradeoffs you get I had a 6.5 Creedmoor and sold it I loved it it was a beautiful ruger m77 Hawkeye I now have a 308 that I can almost shoot as cheap as 556 so hope that answers your question even know I'm very late to the party

The one to walk in and purchase off of the shelf caliber would be the 25-06 ( I own a Rem 700 BDL chambered in 25-06). I've shot everything from prairie dogs to deer with it. Use to reload, now it is hard to find bullets for reloading. Need more folks to show it some love!

7mm08 is my go too. Took my first Elk a month ago. Dropped inside of 30 yards. Deer fall in their tracks with a high shoulder shot. 1 MOA at 200 yards with 150gr Barnes TTSX that I reload. Been hunting 5 years ago and glad I heard about the 7mm08.

@allanbaker659

Жыл бұрын

hard to beat the 7 08. barnes ttsx combo!

@waltercolvin3723

Жыл бұрын

Have 7mm08 savage hunt woodchucks with 110 grain hollow points, deer with 140grain. I find it a very versatile cartridge

Love my 25-06 and glad to see the quarter bore getting a little love; been using it for 20 years on deer and antelope, and in the last 10 have used it elk hunting, granted, I haven't shot big bulls but it drops cows dependably

@nathanallen8220

Жыл бұрын

I love my 25-06 as well. Over the last 14 years of hunting with it I've taken deer, coyote, and prairie dogs with it. It's an extremely versatile cartridge that packs a punch.

@davidball2174

Жыл бұрын

Placement is everything, I've cleanly taken many moose/elk with mine purchased in 1983, I think.

@countryboiz3509

Жыл бұрын

2506 was my choice when looking for a cartridge in this category love how flat shooting it is and it hammers eight tails

A 7mm-08 pushing the 145gr Barnes LRX bullet 2800-2850fps out of a 22” barrel… is bringin’ the smoke friends… This humdinger of a round can deliver 1500ftlbs retained energy to 425yds with 2160fps remaining velocity. It reaches 2000fps at 540yds with 1289ftlbs retained energy. It reaches 1800fps at 690yd with 1046ftlbs retained energy. The 7mm-08 in combination with the 145gr LRX is the most efficient and versatile low recoiling hunting round out there… good for deer to 600yds and moose/elk to 400yds. Ballistics calculated with applied ballistics cdm’s at 50F and 3500ft DA. Both the 6.5CM and the 308WIN can’t touch this. The nearest competition is the 270WIN with the 129gr LRX bullet at 3050fps. Which beats the 708 performance by about 5% and shoots flatter but requires 20% more propellant to do so.

I believe the 7mm08 Is one of the most overlooked cartridges. Available. All around. You can get 100gr up to 190gr Therefore you can cover a wide variety of game From coyotes all the way to elk I would even say moose. Don't get me wrong I love my 25-06 and 270 Just my opinion take it for what it is. Enjoy your content keep up the good work

I'm happy that 6.5 is popular and easy to get. That being said, .308 seems to be an appropriate caliber for most things and people.

@rediron44

Жыл бұрын

I love my .308. Glad I went with it over other rounds I was considering.

@tozobozo4142

Жыл бұрын

It's really good for most people, that's why it's the NATO round. 😉

@Johnsormani

Жыл бұрын

And you barrel will last a whole lot longer as well

@TimBiagi

Жыл бұрын

If I could only one, it would have to be a 308, for all the obvious reasons.

The 7mm08 basically does everything the 6.5CM does but better and would be more viable for larger game too.

@rockie307

Жыл бұрын

Same can be said for the 308. It's better than both for larger game. 6.5 creed does have slightly better trajectory but not enough to matter at hunting ranges.

@cs-rj8ru

Жыл бұрын

6.5cm is better for long range shooting. Better as in a minor margin. 7mm 08 is superior in a shorter barrel.

I have a soft spot for the 25/06, my first deer rifle and first deer. Wish they made more bullets for it. 30/06 with a 24" barrel and premium bullets will bring down any NA game at hunting ranges. It is plentiful, versatile and virtually everyone makes a bolt action chambered in it.

I've never had the 6.5 Creedmoor but will try it when I can. My first nice hunting rifle was the Remington 700 in .243. It was a beautiful rifle with the finely finished wood stock. It had a weaver 4-12 power scope that I loved. Since then, though, nearly every hunting rifle I have purchased has been in .308. I don't know about how things are nowadays, but I always preferred the .308 because of when the S.H.T.F. ammo was most available, especially since it was most used by law enforcement and our military back then. I've had all different rifles in various calibers though. My last "hunting" rifle was my Armalite AR-10, which was in .308. I think they all were .308.when I had mine? All I have is pistols now. My hunting pistol is my Glock Model G40 M.O.S. 10mm, with a Holosun shake awake red dot reflex sight, with solar failsafe system on top, and a laser/light on the bottom. I added silencer/suppressor height night sights so I can use them through the red dot if I have to.

7mm-08. Huge fan of the cartridge. Super versatile, low on recoil, accurate, it's just awesome.

@twobit4333

Жыл бұрын

I know it sounds like cap cause I’m saying it on the internet but I got an elk at 500 yards with the cartridge it went through the shoulder and didn’t make it through the other side of the rib cage but certainly did the job

@StaticXD00d

Жыл бұрын

@@42N8_1 I have, though I am a reloader, so I don't really care as long as I have components.

@bulldogsofeastvan5647

Жыл бұрын

Lol, but no ammo!

@StaticXD00d

Жыл бұрын

@@bulldogsofeastvan5647 I have plenty of ammo for mine. 🤷‍♂

@patrickgallagher4344

Жыл бұрын

You just described the 6.5 creedmoor! lol 😂

I am a big fan of the plain old 280 Remington. I am also very fond of Jack O'Connor's 270 Winchester.

@davidh6818

Жыл бұрын

I often wonder what O'Connor would've thought of the .270 WSM.

@ronaldlollis8895

Жыл бұрын

Jack liked the bullet weight options and load data for the .280 Remington better than the .270W after it had come out. He literally recommended it to those building a rifle in the 50’, 60’s and 70’s until his death in 1978. He was a gifted writer and my childhood was spent reading of his hunting adventures in Outdoor Life.

Curious why you didn't mention the 260 Rem? The SOCOM people evaluated both the 260 and the 6.5 Creedmore and admitted it had slightly better performance but ended up choosing the Creed because of future bullet selections that may occur. The Creed allows seating bullets out of the powder column and the 260 will not with the longer bullets. But I, and my gunsmith, chose the 260 for it's applicability for hunting North American game (works for African light game too). The 260 case holds more powder than the 6.5 CM and for the bullet selection there is now for it, the performance on game is better. I know, the CM is the hot ticket now but the 260 has been used for years for deer, antelope, and sometimes elk and the premium bullets available from Federal, Nosler, and others will do the job on the game I plan to shoot with it. Not a boutique fan.

I'm a fan of the 6.5 Grendel. I love the fact that it shoots from an ar15 platform. I'm in the process of building one at this time but ammo will be difficult to find in my area.

@jasono2139

7 ай бұрын

Why not .224 Valkyrie then?

243 Winchester. I put two deer to sleep with it this rifle season. Light recoil, flat trajectory, and the rifles are everywhere. Great rifle

@trevornewman457

Жыл бұрын

Aside from having more recoil which shouldn't be a problem. I think the 243 is a better round and for the price you can't beat them

@leviwarren6222

Жыл бұрын

Doing cougar season this year with .243. I've had a heck of a time finding boxes locally. 6.5 Creedmore is everywhere. I haven't seen 6.5x55 here in a year and a half though, it's killing me.

@Chris-ip8pz

Жыл бұрын

@@leviwarren6222I found one box of 243 rounds last year and haven’t seen a box since.

@leviwarren6222

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris-ip8pz dude, I know! Finally for a shipment in at Scheels but that was quite the dry spell. As soon as I locate my range finder, I'm taking the rifle out in this -3 weather to make sure we're still zeroed. Good luck with the search!

@sodakhilljack7147

Жыл бұрын

250 and under 243 is perfect killed a hell of a lot of deer with them it’s a good starter round for kids too. Never had a deer go more than 25 yards after being shot.

Big fan of both the 7mm-08 and 270 win. They both work really well for whitetail hunting. I took my first deer with a 270 so it holds some sentimental value. I've been using the 7mm-08 more lately and it just flat out performs really well.

@kurtwpg

Жыл бұрын

Love my 7mm08 but thinking maybe it's hard to beat 280AI in terms of combining external and terminal ballistics with reasonble recoil.

@rediron44

Жыл бұрын

I always liked the .270. Do I need another rifle of another caliber? And now I need to buy another caliber bullet,? No, but I still want one..lol.

@kencleg7721

Жыл бұрын

Yup I’ve been loading 7 mm 08 a while very effective even the 110 for yotes out the vls wind and drop is manageable and 120/130 s for whitetail 43.0 varget one hole it’s only 125 fps behind the .270 my first elk was w a 140 in .270 but at 64 I like the 7 mm08 very efficient and effective drops deer like now drt

@texastomsshavingtips6359

Жыл бұрын

If you like both of those chamberings, you should also like the .284 Winchester cartridge which has ballistics like the .270 Winchester in a short action like the 7mm-08 Remington !! !!

@easttexan2933

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtwpg 280AI is a 7mm Mag. Identical performance.

I just bought the Ruger American Hunter in 6.5 Creedmore. I used to be a 308 fanboy until the recoil became more then my 73 yo shoulder could handle. I found that the recoil on the 6.5 was a pleasure to shoot. Shot both 140gr and 129gr without a noticeable recoil difference. I was shooting groups with both cartridges that I covered with a quarter. Can't say enough about the Ruger American Hunter with the Magpul stock.

.204 Ruger. Its a blast to shoot with minimum recoil, and seeing varmints turn to mist is pretty cool!

I've never had to apologize for showing up with my 300 savage. Eighty years of taking big game, this cartridge has fallen out of style but is still excellent. Still on most shelves too.

@bobhill3941

Жыл бұрын

Gunblue490 loves his!

@DuddyTales

Жыл бұрын

I love my 760 pump..300 savage hasn't let me down

@willardneff7296

Жыл бұрын

I have a Remington 722 in 300 savage it will out shoot any rifle on the shelf good for any size game

I was feeling the need for the creed. But after listening to you I’m happy. I think I have the best of both worlds. I own a .243 and .270, so I’m good to go!

@bertbirge3617

Жыл бұрын

Your listening to one person's point of view... I have all the rifles this man is talking about.. love my ceedmoor the most!

@chrismair8161

Жыл бұрын

Why yes you are. =)

@Swearengen1980

Жыл бұрын

@@bertbirge3617 Depends on the use. If you want to shoot up to 1,000 yards, sure, go with the Creedmoor. But the .270 outperforms the 6.5 at hunting ranges (and the .308 and many others, as well).

@michaelmoran8780

Жыл бұрын

Two great cartridges for sure 👍

@leftyeh6495

Жыл бұрын

Why stop at 2? I have 15 and still feel like there's a bunch of gaps to fill 😂

I have a rifle in 22, 25, 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor. All are very good and accurate for their applications. My 22 CM is my 600-700 yard prairie dog gun that is crazy accurate with a 60 grain V-max. I shot a large doe this past fall with my 6mm CM with a 108 grain Berger at 285 yards in the shoulder and she dropped in her tracks. Love that gun! My 25 CM is my most recent build and I’m still working up loads on it and it’s looking very promising with a 117 and 131 grain bullets. Unfortunately, my 6.5 CM now just sits in the back of the safe and I only look at it once and awhile. I appreciate it though, and the fact that it was the beginning of all these other great cartridges.

all time favorite ,versatile round ,55gr up to 220 gr, Springfield 30-06.

My .270 hand loaded 140 grain Accubond worked just fine on a great antelope this past August at 350 yards!

I'm a huge fan of the .270. I've tried others, but I always go back to my .270.

@alterego9877

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@ringofasho7721

Жыл бұрын

Love mine too. Used my 270 exclusively for 20 years or so, but I updated to the 6.8 western because it was the "prettier twin"

@errolthibodaux

Жыл бұрын

@@ringofasho7721 I bought mine in 1980 and haven't found anything that would replace it. Ain't too many moose, elk, or bear in Louisiana, so I don't need anything bigger.

@ringofasho7721

Жыл бұрын

@@errolthibodaux I hear ya. I live within 30 minutes of Ruston so deer and pigs is all I shoot, but I hunt a pipeline and wanted to shoot out to 600 comfortably. That extra 20 grain weight on 6.8 really gives them big boars the business. Slightly off topic but you seen any black bears where you're at yet?

@errolthibodaux

Жыл бұрын

@@ringofasho7721 I'm south of New Orleans, but I range out a bit. I can't remember the last bear sighting they've had around here. Some claim that they've been spotted in Honey Island swamp again, but I haven't seen any sign of them. It's strictly deer, pigs, and coyote.

My favorite 6.5 is the 256 Newton, designed in 1913 by Charles Newton, loaded until the late thirties by Western Cartridge. Being old, I like to nod to historic cartridges, especially those that are still viable today. I load mine on 25-06 brass because the headstamp on the 270 brass I used to use made me nervous. I have a 270 and three 30-06's so, for me, the safer headstamp choices would be 280 or 25-06. The 3,000 fps optimistically claimed by Mr. Newton for 130 gn bullets is attainable with modern powders.

.270 for sure. Historically limited factory options as far as weight goes, it’s long been a favorite of hunters and reloaders. This was the first cartridge I shot at 1000 yds. Took it as a challenge to do so and I enjoyed the challenge. It lead me down the path that I’m still on today. That Tikka still has a special place in my safe. I’m considering rebarreling my 6.5 CM LR rig to a fast twist .270…@Backfire, I’m in UT…lets meet up for some LR range time!

@Raevenswood

10 ай бұрын

limited options on bullet weights but luckily it doesn't really matter because what is offered just works.

270 win for the win

@dr.froghopper6711

Жыл бұрын

And I don’t need to buy a new rifle to match the cartridge! 270 Win wins!

@whiplash636

Жыл бұрын

No long, high BC projectiles for you and your 270 without a custom chamber.

@josh14yo

Жыл бұрын

I love my 270 but think 6.5 PRC is the better option. They just don’t build many 270’s with a fast twist barrel to utilize the heavy bullets. I agree with a broke 7mag also. Muzzle brakes are the game changer. Get more thwack with less recoil. If we’re being honest they’re all splitting hairs really.

@robbied3467

Жыл бұрын

270 is the one to rile them all, especially for hunting. If it happens to be a Model 70, bonus.

@akatripclaymore.9679

Жыл бұрын

7×57 Mauser, I would put mine against any .270. Don't get me wrong I love the .270 also, I have beautifully engraved .270 with set triggers, push button drop plate magna ported you name it. But 7×57 with 139 grain Norma's I have taken the head off of Grouse at 100 yard's off hand. The Swarovski 4×12 doesn't hurt but, you get what I mean. It WAS a Mauser Action K98 framed 8mm.

Everybody should be getting a 7-08 and the ammo needs to be everywhere.It is the absolute perfect deer cartridge and can also take larger game at moderate ranges as well. 7mm-08 kicks creedmoor ass in hunting versatility.It’s just a flat out better choice

@texastomsshavingtips6359

Жыл бұрын

100% true and correct👍😀🤠‼‼

@JohnThreeTwelve

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. I love my 7mm-08.

@leonardcollings7389

4 ай бұрын

the 270 Win surpasses the 7mm-08 in terms of ballistic performance at all ranges when comparing similar bullet weights.

Great video. These are all great cartridges. I really like the 6 CM, the 25 CM and the 6.5 CM. My most used is the 25-06 because it shoots 75g to 134g bullets for small varmints to elk with SPEED. It makes shooting running game much more predictable. I shoot the 100g bullet at 3350 fps a lot for fox, coyote, antelope and deer. They always stop in their tracks. The 6 CM is my favorite for 1000 yard prairie dogs because of very light recoil and amazing precision. The 6.5 CM still amazes me though. You have to see the hard hitting deep penetration of the 6.5mm bullet to appreciate it for deer.

You jumped right over the 270 wsm, great cartridge providing a short action, moderate recoil, very fast and flat shooting. It is one cartridge everyone overlooks when they shouldn't.

I’ve always felt like as long as you used either 30-30, .308 or 30-06 you could do anything you wanted in North America and find ammo anywhere.

@howardlawrence9882

Жыл бұрын

6.5 is 4 ladies

@gregkelmis2435

Жыл бұрын

Good find ammo anywhere until Joe Biden became president. I’d say lol but it ain’t funny.

@robertschweppenhauser9891

Жыл бұрын

Yes I stay with 7,62x51 NATO .for the same reason Ammo......

@maxpinson5002

Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong

@chipsterb4946

Жыл бұрын

Add 270 Winchester to your list and I’ll agree with you.

I absolutely love my .270!! Fantastic hunting rifle. Great BC nice recoil…. Definitely recommend

The 25-06 is one of my favorite cartridges. I load mine for varmint with a 75grain hollow point. Very fast and flat shooter.

For 30 years I have basically used two rifles for my elk and deer and antelope hunting.the 7 mm Remington mag.and my very favorite the 25-06 Remington . The only variable when choosing which rifle I am taking that day is where I am hunting . I have taken elk with the 25-06 with one shot , but I don't go out past 200 yards .

Love 270 win, and 308 win. I don’t think most people know the 308 has less recoil than the 270, which I’ve hunted with the 270 for years, and I love it first choice.

@FarmerStatesman

Жыл бұрын

In the 1960s and '70s you could always tell who shot the .270 Win by their three eyebrows. Any brand rifle, plus a short eye relief 4x or 6x Weaver scope, and the recoil/rise of the .270 would cut an eyebrow. Therefore .270 shooters had a right, mid, and left eyebrow.

Few years ago, I bought my son a 6.5 Cr, and then about 2 years ago, I got a 308. We shoot the 308 hands down more. Ammo is Way more available locally, components for reloading are easy to find, and although not cheap, there is a Hige selection. You can find 18" and 20" barreled 308, where the shortest 6.5 Cr I see are 22, and a fair number of 24". If the recoil is a concern, you can still shoot 125gr SSTs, and have good bullet, good velocity, just giving up long range.

@texastomsshavingtips6359

Жыл бұрын

You can get the best of both by using the 7mm-08 Remington, which has better ballistics then either out to at least 500 yards while having less recoil than .308 Winchester !! !!

@cottonmouth71

Жыл бұрын

.308 is the better choice for most [IMO]...more availability/common ammo ,less expensive , time tested & proven results ! Like you I also own both calibers but my .308 see's FAR MORE use at the range and during hunting season than the 6.5 or my .300 blackout !

Interesting topic. 6.5 man bun has placed its niche for sure. I love my 6 creedmoor. Absolutely love it.❤❤ Just doing a rechambering on a 30-06 that I unfortunately inherited from my brother 6 years ago. Going with a 30-06 AI. It's going to be awesome. Lots of these older cartridges can be reborn with a modern chamber rebarrel and get a whole new set of performances out of it that it just couldn't years ago. Push those big heavy bullets with high B.C. at decent velocity and then see those charts again at 600-800-1000 yards.❤ It's a whole new ball game folks

308 or 30-06. Both have factory loadings for almost any situation. They are also great to learn on because you will learn drops and wind holds and you don't have to worry about barrel life.

.270 Winchester really is my favorite cartridge. I like how you put the .243 for comparison on the first one, as honestly I think that is probably an extremely comparable/ alternative to the 6.5 Creedmoor.

@xfatboy35x29

Жыл бұрын

I mean if you do the conversion from mm to inches or vice-versa they are close to the same dimensions. So yeah it is a pretty fare comparison. .243in = 6.17mm 6.5mm = .255in

@Alaskancrabpuffs21

Жыл бұрын

.270 all the way!

@rodneyporter93

Жыл бұрын

Jack O’Conner I think he worked for Speer/ the bullet makers not sure I know he done studies for them with about every caliber made but anyway I have read tons of literature about him but he hade killed almost every thing on the North American continent besides like 3 animals I remember one was a Kodiak grizzly but I’m gonna have to read it again it’s in one of my old Speer reloading manuals I love the .270 I have 3 of them and the 6mm creed moor that’s all it is is a .243 But it doesn’t have no were close ballistics the only thing different in the 2 is the shoulders of the casings when I started hunting with my dad well when I got old enough to have my own rifle it was the first year that Remington released the model 7 featherlight that’s what daddy set me up with we all ready had a 700 BDL Remington with a 4-16x50 with the AO Leopold best scopes ever made my opinion and I had done shot a couple deer with the 700 and couldn’t find them the first one I shot I was around 5-7 years old had to put the rifle on shooting sticks daddy made for me and I know what I was doing now but back then I would get the hairs on it’s shoulder and pull the trigger and I was jerking it I guess bad but he gave me that model 7 and it had a 3-9 compact Leopold and the first year the bolts on the model 7s was slick wasn’t even checkered that’s how long ago it was it was a super nice first rifle for a kid back then But I didn’t want it and daddy told me that if I got any thing else that I was buying it so I got my pops to buy me I wanted a.300 Win. Mag or a .338 Win. Mag but he wouldn’t buy it for me said that I didn’t need anything that big so I got a.270 and loved it BUT same stuff after about 2-3 deer started happening and the .270 was a lot heavier than my .243 so I got to using it and done got old enough to understand take my time and squeeze the trigger like I didn’t know when it was going off and I started killing the heck out of some deer and long shots at that but for around here at home you don’t need anything bigger than a.243 I’m shooting a 90 gr. Nosler ballistic tip with 43 1/2 gr. Of 4350 IMR powder and it’s smoking fast and super flat shooting and I have even killed a 386 pound black bear with it I ha a lot newer model 7 LSS now with a 20” barrel brown lam. Stock but it’s what I grab every morning I go now and I have got a .17 fire ball up to the .457 2 Rim. Ultra mags a rifle for anything that I want to do I’m really blessed with both my hobbies hunting and fishing But I seen ya talking about 2 of my top favorite cal. Thought I would share that with ya Happy hunting

@GungHoSourdough

Жыл бұрын

I use a .270 rifle and I love it but man it feels like it breaks my shoulder every shot!

@Alaskancrabpuffs21

Жыл бұрын

@@GungHoSourdough I guess I have shot .300 enough to appreciate the softer kick of the .270 haha

I’ve always been a fan of 308 only because my duty weapon was a M-21 in the Army and I’ve shot so many thousands of rounds and and very familiar with it. I’m old and don’t really know a lot about these newer cartridges. You are very informative about them all and I’m learning a lot watching your videos.

@SlavicCelery

Жыл бұрын

Honestly in the ranges, and animal types, most people hunt; 308 will get it done.

@Physics072

Жыл бұрын

I picture a .308 with cheerleaders and fans around you. You jumping up and down with glee waving a .308 flag yelling "Go .308 go .308"

@rodneyporter93

Жыл бұрын

@@Physics072 what you shooting??

@rodneyporter93

Жыл бұрын

@@SlavicCelery 308 is one out of 3 different cal. Is a just about do it all round besides moose and Kodiak grizzly

@SlavicCelery

Жыл бұрын

@@rodneyporter93 How many people are proactively hunting Moose and Kodiaks? I only say that because I said "most" on purpose. I'm not facing down a moose without something bringing God's wrath on earth. But that's just me. *locks and loads some .50BMG to take down a moose*

I like the 6.5 Grendel a lot so as a reloader 6.5 Creed is super convenient... but I see your points for sure!

Reloaded 6.5x47 Lapua and 308 Win in my arsenal are covering all from benchrest and long range precision shooting to big game hunting.

Our family shoots 270. I've been able to accumulate enough reloading stuff for the rest of my life. Great elk cartridge, cuz we don't shoot long distances cuz of the areas we hunt. Also a very big fan of the 243, I got 3. 243 is just fun to shoot and does a great job on antelope. I would never tell anyone else what to shoot, we all have our limes and dislikes and I hate being told what I should do, so I won't tell anyone else what to do...I just let them know I am more correct!! 😁

I would vote for the 308 win. Lots of ammo choices, its available, and affordable as said in video. 6.5 creed is interesting to me, and has gained very fast popularity. And I see it on the shelves. It just doesn't make me want to go out and buy one, when I already have a 308 and 30-06 in my cabinet.

@maigepresents5840

Жыл бұрын

I've reloaded and shot hundreds upon hundreds of .308 over the years. The Hornady 165 sst is a firm favorite for hunting these days.

@Len_M.

11 ай бұрын

I have both and 6.5 Creedmoor is much better once you get out further. .308 has quite a bit of drop when you get into the 500m+. I love my SIG 716 DMR in .308 you can’t miss, but its just an expensive Vault Queen for now, just like my Daniel Defense MK18. I have a nice Savage TR10 LE in a Cadex Field Chassis in .308 that shoots nice. I have a 6.5 Creedmoor in a Magpul Chassis that shoots great. I think I might pick up a SIG Cross in 6.5 Creedmoor. It’s a nice Rifle. Then I have my accurate Sledgehammer, the Sako TRG42 in .338LM, but I’m only shooting that at 1000m+ because it’s $10/Round so that means going out on a special Trip. I have some very nice .22LR’s that are cheap to shoot and can be a blast trying to stretch them out at the Range.

@NoTaboos

11 ай бұрын

@@Len_M. What a hero you are.

@Gigachadly

8 ай бұрын

@@Len_M.litterally nobody asked you or cares what type of guns you have or what chassis they are on. 😂

Ive been told that the 6.5 Creedmor will eat up my Tikka UPR rifle barrel much faster and so I should opt for a 270, 308, or if available in the Tikka UPR a 25.06 or 7mm-08. Any thoughts on that suggestion? Great video and thanks for sharing!

I am in the market for a new round. That is why I watched your video to see if you bring up this round. I reload my own rounds and was looking for something between a 308 and 300 blackout for deer. A local shop owner informed me on a 6X45. If you are like me at first confused. It’s a 6m with a 556 case running as high as 88 grains of powder. It is a round I am leaning towards right now.

270 and 7mm-08 are my favorites; 243 is close behind for deer. They’re great in light rifles when spot and stalking or in the mountains.

Now here is a subject that I have a lot of experience with. I've been hunting for almost 40 years, the calibers that I've used are 243, 25-06, 6.5 grendel, 6.5 CM, 308, 300 Hamr, and 7 RM. The most impressive cartridge I've experienced in the field on deer and hogs is the 25-06. It just kills above it's grade and I can't explain why. Even game double lung shot have never gone more than 10 feet and the majority are DRT! It performs like my 7 RM when I download it. I hunt with a guy that runs a 270 and there's just no distinguishable difference between the two. I was not impressed with the Grendel which is why I moved up to the 6.5CM and determined it was no 25-06. The downside to the 25-06 is that it requires a 24" barrel or longer. That means that the physical size of the gun is the same as just about any 7 RM. I found that my 7 downloaded is still a bit more effective than the 25-06 which is why I no longer own one. I've also discovered that the 308 with a max load 165 Speer not only has equal or better ballistics than the 6.5CM but it performs very much like the downloaded 7RM. As far as recoil, a decent muzzle makes it a non factor. I have a Harrel's turner brake on my 7 and the recoil is negligible at best. I've had 10 year olds shoot it with no problem! I always wear ear protection in the field no matter when I'm hunting with so muzzle blast is of no real consequence.

@BigdaddyE71

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like the downloaded 7RM is your fave. Id like to recommend the 280 Remington or perhaps the 280 AI.

@gsitzkowitz

Жыл бұрын

@@ronlowney4700 True, but you can run more weight with the 7.

@zachchristensen1394

Жыл бұрын

My dad swears by his 25-06 I’ve seen him make some amazing shots

@treydenfrench7009

Жыл бұрын

@@ronlowney4700 there isn’t a 212gr .277 bullet on earth, or a barrel that could stabilize it. And I’d be surprised if you could hit 2000fps.

@treydenfrench7009

Жыл бұрын

@@ronlowney4700 I don’t see a single 0.277 projectile on Buffalo bore’s website. Mind sharing the link?

This is exactly why I love the 6mm Remington, the hotter sister of the .243win, 95grain Hornady SST 3235fps MV! At 300yards -6.1"& 400 -18.0" but they don't have any commercial loads available except for the very limited batches of Hornady Superformance however loading some lighter loads like a 70 grain BTHP can get you to 3,700fps with the right powders and 105 grain soft tips can still have you above 3,000 and stay extremely flat with very manageable recoil. It's worth it if you reload and have the patience and effort to source enough brass from 6mm Remington and .257 Robert's both hard to come by today obviously but only five years ago could be found in almost any gun shop.

Been shooting the same .270 since 1990...just ordered a 7 PRC and can't wait

7mm-08. Hammers deer and never lost a deer when hit well. And have dropped many where they stood.

Could even add some modern loadings for the 6.5 x 55 (Swede) to your list. They compare favourably to the .270, and loads of moose, etc (and target competitions) have been taken in Sweden, Norway, Finland and throughout Europe with it for over 100 years.

@sauerkrautjr

Жыл бұрын

Only problem is finding a rifle to shoot it and a modern loading available off the shelf

@Adrian-zm2uh

Жыл бұрын

@@sauerkrautjr google is your friend. I have a 6.5x55. I run it mild, because barrel life and South Africa. But with slow propellant and 62 000psi it is magic

@sauerkrautjr

Жыл бұрын

@@Adrian-zm2uh probably a good deal more available in South Africa than in the US. It's a pretty niche and expensive cartridge in the states, and for my needs the Creedmoor does just fine. If I need more oomph it's a lot easier for me go upgrade to .270 or .30-06 than 6.5 Swede. I'm sure it's great and I have nothing against it, but selection is really poor where I live

@Adrian-zm2uh

Жыл бұрын

@@sauerkrautjr to be honest, my 30-06 does all the hard work. Kudu, eland, black wildebeest

@Risetosovengarde

Жыл бұрын

6.5 swede has taken elephants.

I just bought a browning x-bolt in 7 PRC and I’m so excited for our next hunting trip!

Well, when it comes to hunting, i have two cartridges I prefer. The .243 is my workhorse. That thing takes deer and smaller with ease, works great for punching paper or slapping steel out to 1,000 yards, and works great off the shelf oras a reloaders cartridge. The other is 7mm-08. Not super available but enough solid options are outthere for fans of factory loads. Plus this cartridge is a fan favorite in the reloading community.

@timclaus8313

10 ай бұрын

When you get into varmint bullets, a 55 gr bullet out of a 243 is pushing 4000 fps. A very versatile cartridge, and recoiled is low enough you can shoot some extended sessions on range day.

I think the .270 win fills the middle of the road niche very well. If you want something that will kill everything from pronghorn to elk it is a great option without over doing it. If you don't plan on going after elk I would use one of the 6mm-.243 options out there.

@happyhankjr

Жыл бұрын

This guy never even mentioned the 6.5 Swedish Mauser. Hand loaders can out perform the 6.5 Creedmoor AND, unlike the 6.5 Creedmoor, the 6.5 Swedish Mauser is a proven elk and moose size game getter. It has been Europe's favorite Scandinavian moose cartridge for generations, like the 30-06 is here in the United States. Scandinavian moose rival the Maine, Canadian, and Alaskan moose in size. There, in Europe, the 6.5 Swedish Mauser is commercially loaded hotter than here in the U.S.A. but that has been changing with more hotter loads available.

@taurus600

Жыл бұрын

I've been hunting deer with a .270 since I started hunting, its made some outstanding kills for me and I couldn't be happier with how it performs

@Meh-hr7gq

Жыл бұрын

@@happyhankjr I’ve killed 3 elk with a 6.5 Creedmoore. They didn’t complain one bit it wasn’t a Mauser. 🤷‍♂️. Who knew? 🤷‍♂️

@JAFO.

Жыл бұрын

Yessir, the .270 is the only one I've considered replacing my 30-06 with when I finally shoot out the barrel, and I agree, except regarding ammo price & availability, the ol' 30-06 still rules in that dept. and makes it a tough choice between the two.

The only reason the 6.5 needmore is so popular is it marketing.

My one and only big game rifle for 37 years is a 308. I'm a deer hunter, but if I get interested in elk or bear, I'm set. At the range, recoil can be a problem, especially with my lightweight rifle. But I found a 125 grain managed recoil factory load that my daughter was OK to start with. And by year two she wanted to use the full power 150 grain load when we sat in the deer stand. Talk about cheap ammo, the NATO ball 147 grain is really good to practice with and I don't notice any ballistic difference at 100 yards. In the woods of the Pacific Northwest, bullet drop at 400 yards is irrelevant, especially for a former bow and muzzleloader who likes to get close. Thank you for the comparison with the 6.5 Creedmore.

I love my .270. It gets the job done and never let me down. I have rifles in other calibers but I always grab the .270 for hunting.

In my opinion, the .270 is the do it all cartridge--whitetail, hogs, elks, etc.

@takingbacktoxic7898

Жыл бұрын

yup

@dallasbeus2117

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have one. The 30-06 and .308 have almost the same elevation characteristics and better knock down. I used a .270 for years and wouldn't buy another one.

@ChiquitaSpeaks

Жыл бұрын

@@dallasbeus2117 the .270 smacks on .308 n with that statement you’ve lost all credibility

@dallasbeus2117

Жыл бұрын

@@ChiquitaSpeaks That's why the.308 is one of the most popular cartridge if not the most popular in the world! The.270 is the most overrated cartridge in the world.

@RikterZilla

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Seems like that to me. I took a moose from 320 yards, he dropped like a wet bag of cement. Then that night the darn porcupines were into the feed for the cattle, bagged it at 10 yds

In my opinion, the 257 Robert's and 7-08 are the two cartridges that should be everywhere on the shelves. Unfortunately, both seem to be falling off the radar in recent years. Especially the 257.

@nickp941

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. I own both of those cartridges the 257 Roberts is my favorite.

@allanbaker659

Жыл бұрын

agree

@Sopranoman1986

Жыл бұрын

I love the 257 Roberts!

The one you have is the best one. For me, it's a Ruger 30-06 my dad bought in '78. It still kills game today!

I have 6.5CM, 7mm08, 300 WM, and 30-06. I feel that the 30-06 has the best balance for me as I never shoot beyond 300. Price and availability are also factors. I do plan on using 300WM for moose next year. With a muzzle brake and a recoil pad, these are pretty comfortable to shoot.

One of my hunting buddies built a 25 Creedmoor, after getting two deer with it last year, I was REALLY impressed with the accuracy and appropriate damage to the deer.

I am with Jesse, my favorites are 270 and 7mm08. Old fashion, but they just keep on a ticking. If I would re-barrel the 270, I would consider a bit faster twist than the std. 1 in 10. Great video! Enjoy your content.

@LRRPFco52

Жыл бұрын

I grew up on .270 Winchester and love the performance. Biggest thing handicapping .270 Win has always been the twist rate and 17˚30’ shoulder angle. The propellant column is unnecessarily-long as well. It would do better in a 7x57 size case with a 30˚ shoulder, and the body with less taper.

@texastomsshavingtips6359

Жыл бұрын

@@LRRPFco52 Take a look at the .284 Winchester, you get the ballistics of the .270 Winchester in a short action nearly straight walled case👍🤠‼️‼️

@LRRPFco52

Жыл бұрын

@@texastomsshavingtips6359 .284 Winchester-the first Winchester short magnum.

I want to see the comparison ballistics for the 30 mm that you mentioned! Lol! Love watching your reviews and info! Keep it up!

284 win is a real sleeper. Love 708 and 7x57, 2506 is a favorite. Creed will harvest deer, but on plains with larger body mule deer I’ll take one of the others. If I’m hunting elk, depending on distance 35 Whelan, 7 Rum, 358 win, 280 Rem get the nod. I’ve killed a bunch of game with the 7mm Rum and it is like a thunderbolt (on both ends). 35 Whalen is a great under rated choice. If I had to buy one new rifle and just use that….280 AI or 7 PRC with my own hand loads.

I bought a .243, but 7mm-08 is the one that would be nice if it were more common.

@texastomsshavingtips6359

Жыл бұрын

Both are descendants of the .308 Winchester, and the .260 Remington is right in between its' sibling cartridges, and ALL four are great cartridges👍😀🤠‼‼

I think the 270 is the best all around,I use it for woodchucks right on up to bear. Excellent caliber

@twolak1972

7 ай бұрын

Its marginal on elk. If you have the classic BROADSIDE lung shot yeah but quartering shots where you gotta drive through tough hide, bone and muscle to get to the vitals, HAND ME A 7 MAG OR 30/ 06.

@peterhrkal8165

6 ай бұрын

​@twolak1972 you'd be fine with a copper monolithic on a quartering elk with .270..... getting around 30 + inches of penetration on ballistics gel according to some videos

@twolak1972

6 ай бұрын

@@peterhrkal8165 Oh boy that's asking a lot from a 270

@peterhrkal8165

6 ай бұрын

@twolak1972 not really.... Hornady Cx 130gr in .270 moves at 3100 fps + and penetrates super deep. I wouldn't hesitate to hunt elk or moose with that.

@twolak1972

6 ай бұрын

@@peterhrkal8165 Go ahead Ille stick to my 7 mag and 175 nosler partitions. BEST BULLET EVER MADE. ANYONE saying they're not has never hunted with NOSLERS.

I'm a 270 Win fan buoy too. Shooting one for decades. Just recently got got a new barrel. Thought about which twist rate. I went with the 1:10 twist. I'm not going to need anything more than a 150gr-165gr. Although, now with the faster twist rate like the 6.8 Western uses. You can shoot heavier bullets now (With the faster twist rate). Ive seen bullets from 85gr to 180gr (The lower weight is thanks to the 6.8 SPC II). Add in some of the Western weight bullets & twist it will go heavier.

I have a 6.5 creedmoor and love it. I wanted a second go to whitetail rifle. I picked the .308 after doing a ton of research. I’ll use the 6.5 creedmoor in edge of woods /field hunt. The 308 will be both my back up for fields and go to in the woods with a lower power scope