5 Years of Split Keyboards Behind Me - My Review

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I've been using Split Keyboards for 5 years and I can tell you they are a big part of my every day workflow. If you're interested in figuring out if you should get a split keyboard, then this video is for you. As a game dev and a software engineer - I like to invest in equipment that will help me improve my quality of life. Because I've spent the last 5 years using split keyboards, I think it would be helpful to share my experience and opinions on the matter. Especially for folks who are interested in buying and investing into split keyboards themselves.
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0:00 Why invest in split keyboards?
0:44 My first split keyboard and proof that it's been 5 years
1:15 One of the most useful things about split keyboards
2:03 How fast can I type with split keyboard vs. traditional keyboard?
2:43 Unlocking the true power of split keyboards
3:21 How split keyboards are amazing for programming
4:46 Why split keyboards are better than traditional keyboards
5:15 How your thumbs are used
6:02 Kinesis Advantage example
6:20 My final thoughts
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  • @Ajackster
    @Ajackster8 ай бұрын

    WOW I'm glad you guys enjoyed the video. Thanks for all the kind words and feedback. I have yet to try vim shortcuts like so many of you have suggested and am still using my archaic methods but I'll try them out and report back. Again thanks for the support :) Also, shameless plug for my mobile puzzle game Zupple zupple.co ;) Toodles😘 Ajackster

  • @ToyKeeper

    @ToyKeeper

    7 ай бұрын

    I've been using split and other odd keyboards since 1995, beginning with the Lexmark Select-Ease (IBM M15). I've extensively used many different types over the years. What I found is that colstag models are the worst for me, and what I like best is a traditional 65% to 75% rowstag board with QMK and hotswap, and a small touchpad under the space bar. Heavily customized layout with dvorak or colemak-dh. And vim, of course. The biggest ergonomic gain I've found is to push the keyboard back roughly 1 cubit on the desk, and split a wrist rest to use as elbow / upper forearm rests on the front edge of the desk. Also, switching from mouse to touchpad eliminated any pains from mouse use, though I instead use mouse keys (in inertia mode) most of the time.

  • @ekougar1534

    @ekougar1534

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm waiting on part 2. Tell me more bout the splits bro!

  • @juliofreitas1652

    @juliofreitas1652

    Ай бұрын

    Hi Ajackster. Thanks for the high quality content, bro! Can you share your Ergodox or Moonlander layouts? Maybe you have a link from Oryx.

  • @untitled8124
    @untitled81242 жыл бұрын

    Dude your video quality is amazing.. I thought I was watching a youtuber with 500k+ subs

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, it means a lot! I’m learning new things every video I make lol I still have a lot to improve on but content will keep getting better :)

  • @TheFloatingBartender

    @TheFloatingBartender

    10 ай бұрын

    Second this

  • @anthonycodes
    @anthonycodes Жыл бұрын

    I came here for the keyboards and stayed for the expert level eyebrow manipulation

  • @ShuningLiuAtPlay
    @ShuningLiuAtPlay Жыл бұрын

    In all seriousness, you should consider learning either Emacs or Vim-style hotkeys, which allowed for home-row oriented text navigation long before key remapping was a thing ex. In Emacs you can move next and previous line with "Ctrl+n" and "Ctrl+p" respectively This actually makes you significantly less dependent on single purpose keys like "End" that you can then remap to something more interesting (given the Ergodox can have per-key macros)

  • @lucastperez

    @lucastperez

    Жыл бұрын

    I came here just to say this. It definitely is worth it.

  • @darukutsu

    @darukutsu

    Жыл бұрын

    I respect my pinkie vi-motions are way to go.

  • @kevinchang0527

    @kevinchang0527

    Жыл бұрын

    Good advice. Time to use some Autohotkey.

  • @noomade

    @noomade

    Жыл бұрын

    what sort of masochist uses emacs movements instead of vim style :)

  • @xXTheXboxBrothersXx

    @xXTheXboxBrothersXx

    Жыл бұрын

    Lmao a windows dev

  • @radboi4194
    @radboi41942 жыл бұрын

    only 200 views? wtf, from the quality of this vid alone i wouldve expected 30k+, keep it up man, good work edit: It feels good coming back to this video and see it get the attention it deserves, good job

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man appreciate it 🙏

  • @luccahuguet

    @luccahuguet

    2 жыл бұрын

    6k views now! lets go lets go

  • @minime453

    @minime453

    2 жыл бұрын

    13k now. Let the algorithm bless us all, 🙏

  • @luccahuguet

    @luccahuguet

    2 жыл бұрын

    May the algorithm be with you

  • @SimGunther

    @SimGunther

    2 жыл бұрын

    22k+ views now. May the algorithm bless us all!

  • @SkyKosiner
    @SkyKosiner2 жыл бұрын

    This video was amazing! I have been using a split keyboard for over a year, and it has been a 100% game changer.

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the compliment! I’m glad you enjoyed :)

  • @BadenHealth

    @BadenHealth

    Жыл бұрын

    Which are you using?

  • @deezphillpeans5070
    @deezphillpeans50702 жыл бұрын

    i love your editing and film design of such a simple topic. Usually people just review the product, but i enjoy how you actually involve yourself with the video.

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! It means a lot - I plan to keep that vibe and improve quality for future videos :)

  • @amirprog

    @amirprog

    Жыл бұрын

    Not nice - mialeading thumbnail...

  • @Yotanido
    @Yotanido2 жыл бұрын

    3:26 In that example, if the cursor starts on the first character of "function", I would do this in vim: jWWevhcld Then press escape to leave insert mode. I've been considering getting a split keyboard, but I don't even use keys like the arrow keys. And sure, I could use hjkl, which is vim's equivalent - and the example I gave does use j and h - but the vast majority of my navigating actually happens with W and B to go forward/backward a whole word. (uppercase to use only space as word separator, lowercase to also separate words on symbols) If you're interested, the breakdown of that sequence: j - down one line W - go to the next word, using only space as word separator W - again e - go to the end of the word, also considering symbols as word separators v - enter visual mode to select text h - go left one - "dl" is now selected c - delete the selected text and enter insert mode ("change") ld - insert "ld" (since we are in insert mode, any characters typed now get inserted at the cursor position) And finally escape to go back to normal mode. I will say, learning vim was one of the best things I could have done. Most other editors/IDEs just feel clunky now, though it does seem they are slowly getting better. It's not even that editing is faster or more efficient, but it's just more comfortable. I don't need to move my hands as much to reach for the arrow keys or, heaven forbid, the mouse. Using a smaller, possibly split, keyboard like that seems to solve a similar issue. Would using one still make my experience better with vim? Probably. I don't think it's really worth it, though. Using an editor that is designed to make editing efficient and comfortable seems to already solve the bulk of the problem - and I would argue better than just using better hardware alone.

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol “heaven forbid, the mouse” I totally feel you. I spent a little time using VIM a couple years ago but never got near the depth you’ve gotten into. I will say though, on split keyboards, there are still certain keys that don’t have to do with navigation that you don’t have to move your hands at all e.g. backspace, arithmetic operators, etc. that you’d have to move your hand to on a traditional. Because all of these keys are now being utilized by your thumbs. But if you have a system that works for programming already, I think you’d probably get more benefit from other things e.g. you’d probably just be in a more natural resting position on the keyboard. Your arms are split and straight forward rather than coming in together.

  • @LordOfTheDing

    @LordOfTheDing

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a vimmer myself, I would do it a bit differently: jfdxp j - down one line fd - jump to first "d" on line, which is inside "wordl" x - delete the character under the cursor p - paste the just deleted character. "xp" is a nice trick to swap two characters, one of the more frequent ones I need.

  • @Yotanido

    @Yotanido

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LordOfTheDing That's neat! I'll try to remember xp, that does seem really useful. Thanks for that :) Maybe I should consider using f more often, but I've stopped using it for longer jumps to letters. Too many times I end up having the letter appear multiple times before my destination and I end up having to use ; a bunch. So I mainly orient myself on word boundaries and reserve f for short in-word jumps or to jump to characters that are easily findable in a line like symbols. But I will admit, your solution is much shorter. :D My solution can also be made shorter by skipping visual mode and just using ch instead of vhc. I actually noticed this as I was writing the original comment, but if I were to actually do this edit, I would use visual mode there, so I posted that instead.

  • @xinchen6941

    @xinchen6941

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LordOfTheDing that "xp" is saver for people like me still using "xi[correction]". Thanks a lot.

  • @devonstarke1568

    @devonstarke1568

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Thanks for the info! I'm a vim noob and I had no idea I could do such things. Time to dig in!

  • @IIoWoII
    @IIoWoII Жыл бұрын

    Combine this keyboard with vim shortcuts(vim/vim emu/emacs-evil-mode) and you'll improve your workflow even more. Many of the issues you talk about with your regular keyboard are already solved with vim. Like replace word would be c-i-w (change in word)

  • @musicalweasel1

    @musicalweasel1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@homerdummy5639 I love seeing the different ways people do the same thing in vim, I never would have thought of this combo

  • @aidan7228
    @aidan72282 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video! I am learning to be a game dev in unreal engine and when I saw this video I got intrigued and clicked on it. This video eventually lead me to getting the Ergodox-ez and it changed everything. Thanks for making this!

  • @lo-phi-music
    @lo-phi-music2 жыл бұрын

    A keyboard review has no business being this hilarious 😂Love it! I'd love a comparison video between the different split keyboards! I have an ergodox, but I've been wondering about how it compares to a few of the others you mentioned using

  • @ibrahimdelice9422
    @ibrahimdelice94222 жыл бұрын

    I can ONLY agree with you. I've been using Dygma raise split keyboard for months now with reason of having experiencing wrist pain for over a year. It was so intense at some point that I had to take a break from my pc which meant taking few sick days at work. It did really hurt me as a programmer that I could not continue my work bc of a f'king keyboard. I saved my self, and my body by purchasing a split keyboard. I have NEVER experienced wrist pain since! And that means saying goodbye to normal keyboards. Great video!

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing story :) I’m glad they’ve impacted you in such a positive way

  • @sikavistasipal5968

    @sikavistasipal5968

    2 жыл бұрын

    May I know which split keyboard you purchased? Thank you.

  • @atomydavid

    @atomydavid

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sikavistasipal5968 He mentions Dygma Raise. A staggered split keyboard.

  • @Time4Technology
    @Time4Technology2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you. I think it would be great if you did reviews and comparisons of individual ergonomic/split keyboards. Many other channels on KZread focus on the gaming aspect - when all I really care about is navigating my shell and code efficiently and ergonomically.

  • @gabriellebantay6358
    @gabriellebantay63582 жыл бұрын

    I know nothing at all about keyboards but watching this video was so informative and entertaining. Love your visuals and the script!

  • @Baji.Valorant
    @Baji.Valorant2 жыл бұрын

    You my good sir, have gained a subscriber. Was considering a split keyboard myself since I'm a Computer engineering student, and I spend A LOT of time using a keyboard. You have convinced me! Keep up the good work!

  • @OHOE1

    @OHOE1

    2 жыл бұрын

    motorola check

  • @yohaanmaster2522
    @yohaanmaster25222 жыл бұрын

    This is easily one of the best keyboard videos I've watched over the last few months, and honestly i can't wait to binge the rest of your videos lmao. One question though, as a gamer yourself, are there any advantages/disadvantages you've noticed while gaming with a split?

  • @maheshbabu-fj3tx
    @maheshbabu-fj3tx4 ай бұрын

    Hey this was really useful ! Thanks do you use a sit stand desk to adjust your wrist angle ? was just wondering since my desk is perfectly inline right now with a Magic Keyboard. Was wondering if using these will increase the height and cause wrist to bend by a lot

  • @zaibod7244
    @zaibod72442 жыл бұрын

    this is an amazing video! so glad it got recommended to me after ~2hrs of split keyboard binge-watching

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I’m glad I was a part of your binge lol

  • @lonelysorrowknight
    @lonelysorrowknight2 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see your layout for your ergodox. I've been having a hard getting used to my moonlander for programming... Would love any tips.. great vid btw

  • @redfrost88
    @redfrost882 ай бұрын

    thank you for the comprehensive coverage of the benefits of a split keyboard. for the kinesis 2, would you recommend the 9 or 20inch separation?

  • @felinefurkin4275
    @felinefurkin4275 Жыл бұрын

    Most fun review and good to hear the benefits.

  • @patrickoberherr1696
    @patrickoberherr16962 жыл бұрын

    Hey @ajackster. I have the Kinesis Advantage 2 QD, and I am thinking to switch to the moonlander. Why did you in the end decide to switch from Kinesis to Moonlander? It would be great if you could elaborate a bit because I'd want to understand why you now use the moonlander. Thanks so much in advance

  • @layhosik
    @layhosik Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thank you for sharing your experience. Very detailed and I hope you get more views.

  • @MAW__
    @MAW__ Жыл бұрын

    You get me 🥺💖 thank you for this, homie!

  • @mk8ez364
    @mk8ez3642 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I've been thinking about a split keyboard for sometime now. You've helped me make up my mind. I'm going to take the plunge and give one a try. Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It's awesome you're starting the journey :) It may feel weird at first but you just have to persevere for a week or two and it'll start to click

  • @lukesalvidge118

    @lukesalvidge118

    2 жыл бұрын

    take it from someone who was in your position as well, definitely do it. i built a lily58 pro as the gateway to the hobby of split keyboards and havent looked back since

  • @devonstarke1568

    @devonstarke1568

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ajackster @mk8ez I've been using my ErgodoxEz for more than 2 years now, and I will never go back to a normal keyboard. The natural position of the hands and arms really helps to prevent injuries from bad positions. i use my keyboard for 8 to 16 hours per day for work and hobbies.

  • @andrzejdubiel3263
    @andrzejdubiel32632 жыл бұрын

    Is this Ergodox switching layer based on software or these layers are "saved" on keyboard? So when I take keyboard to another PC, can just plug & play and all layers works? Does it work on Linux? I had programmed layers for my Razer Nostromo / Razer Tartarus but it only work on Windows (and probably on Macs), so it s*cks for my programming on Linux.

  • @LoyTakian
    @LoyTakian20 күн бұрын

    Yo. How hard is it to clean the kinesis and keep it clean? Is it possible to disassemble it to clean around the switches?

  • @kein3001
    @kein3001 Жыл бұрын

    3:25 I really like the section about being fast when editing mistakes with the split keyboard. That is one of the reason I really enjoy using vim because I don't need to move my hands to the end Key or arrow keys for that matter. I don't own a split keyboard yet, but I am looking into buying one!

  • @jwapptastic

    @jwapptastic

    Жыл бұрын

    This isn't actually a benefit specific to split keyboards, but rather any programmable keyboard with multiple layers. I used a split keyboard (RGBKB Sol) for more than a year, then switched back to a 65% because I disliked needing two hands for hotkeys like ctrl-B and I missed having bracket keys in the standard position. I adapted the layers from my split keyboard back to the 65%. I do occasionally miss my left-hand rotary encoder, the ergonomics of the split, and the thumb clusters. I remain very happy with my decision to switch back.

  • @TheOwlQueen
    @TheOwlQueen Жыл бұрын

    This is really helpful! I have frequent wrist pain due to bad joints, so I've been looking into alternative keyboard options as an office worker & writer.

  • @user-il1rt7oo4y
    @user-il1rt7oo4y2 ай бұрын

    Anywhere we can find the layout mapping your using?

  • @xBeyondMystery
    @xBeyondMystery Жыл бұрын

    I'm looking into ergonomic keywords, since I'm desperate with a long term injury in my right arm (already got an ergonomic vertical mouse) and now my left arm is hurting too (also a dev here abd like to play on my free time). I really need some advice since I know little about ergonomic keyboards, they're expensive and I want to get it right. Is it worth it to get a split keyboard over a not split ergonomic one? doesn't your thumb hurt from stretching it to reach the keys? Which one would you recommend for a beginner? Funny video, I'll keep checking your stuff! :)

  • @zFrizzi
    @zFrizzi2 жыл бұрын

    Dudee, the quality of this video is amazing, you're underrated af, I'm subscribing

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks appreciate it homie

  • @jammies701
    @jammies7012 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Love the editing and personality

  • @TainaMalave
    @TainaMalave2 жыл бұрын

    love the video! do you think you could post a link to your oryx layout? i just got a moonlander and could use some inspiration on making my layout better and more convenient!

  • @hectorrivera960
    @hectorrivera9602 жыл бұрын

    Dude, your vibe is just amazing. Keep on going.

  • @ant1fact
    @ant1fact8 ай бұрын

    Hey, could you say a few words about the Mistel Barocco? I am thinking about picking it up as a first split keyboard and I can't decide between it and the Freestyle Kinesis Pro

  • @chimairanl9043
    @chimairanl90432 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. If all your keyboard were gone tomorrow...which one would you buy as your daily driver? I have a Kinesis freestyle 2 myself that I use for work (not programming). Prefer mecanic switches but that can get pricy. Love the split design but it is still just a bit too chunky if you use the mouse a lot. I almost never use the special keys on the left or the FN layer. Been thinking about getting a trackball....

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy my Ergodox EZ but I got it a few years ago so I’m sure there are more amazing ones on the market. I have Cherry MX Clears which I absolutely love to type on (I normally get tired of typing on Browns, Blues, etc. but Clears never)

  • @256k_
    @256k_ Жыл бұрын

    would love to hear about your experience with the ez vs the advantage. especially considering the concavity of the advantage. do you find it's better? i'm kinda torn between say something like the ez vs something like the newer kinesis 360 very similar but 360 has the concave shape (and a massice price tag :D)

  • @Mortagus
    @Mortagus2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review, I'm also a developer and I've been thinking about changing my "keyboard" situation for a while now. I've also check many videos about the different size of keybord (40%, 65% 75%,...). Therefor a question pop into my mind : from the perspective of the efficiency to type code, is there more advantage in a split keyboard or in a better key layout ? The question may not be clear enough but I'm not sure how to explain it more. This topic is sooo interesting (and yes I'm a nerd as well ;-) )

  • @_Aikko_
    @_Aikko_ Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. Btw does reducing the amount of hand movements also reduce the amount of injuries or totally different things?

  • @armaniinthemix
    @armaniinthemix Жыл бұрын

    Would you be open to sharing which MATRIX EMULATOR Screen Saver program you used on your videos? Thank you for the video experience on split keyboards. I am seriously considering

  • @stevenrodriguez2882
    @stevenrodriguez2882 Жыл бұрын

    Was the moonlander out when you made got your ergodox? And can you post your layout that you use?

  • @douglashughes2331
    @douglashughes2331 Жыл бұрын

    OK, I've been using the advantage 2 for a while and love it. Have you tried the advantage 360 pro? If so, what do you think?

  • @kimstreich1808
    @kimstreich18082 жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic video. Thank you!

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed!

  • @jwoolson
    @jwoolson Жыл бұрын

    Your great sense of humor is a wonderful way to make keyboard nerdery more accessible.

  • @michalisfotiadis4966
    @michalisfotiadis49662 жыл бұрын

    Mu dude, loved the video, I share your desire to move as little as possible my hands and finger, that's why I would very highly recommend installing the Vim (or Nvim) Extension for VSCode. I know it takes some time to get used to, but believe me, it's magical how much you limit your keystrokes and movement.

  • @CodeOnBlocks
    @CodeOnBlocks11 ай бұрын

    hey bro, I'm a programmer too and am considering getting one of these split keyboards for the exact same reasons as you. I was worried about not being able to use the arrow keys, but they way you showed how to do it was so bad ass. thanks for making this video, it was super helpful for me.

  • @rauldragu9447

    @rauldragu9447

    6 ай бұрын

    I would suggest learning vim keybindings too, alongside getting an ergo keyboard. it allows for less layer switching to get to single use keys like the arrows, home, end by using the alpha keys (letters) for both inserting text and navigating it. It also allows for more expressive actions like selecting everything inside parenthesis, cutting a whole string instantly, jumping to a closing brace. inside real neovim i.e. not in an IDE extension, using plugins you can even add more semantic "text objects" so you can select/delete/replace a whole function, expression, parameter with just one key combination. I think all programmers should spend at least an afternoon going through the vim tutor (search for it, yt doesn't allow links) even if you are not willing to leave your IDE behind. You might like it and stick with it but if not, at least now you are aware that there are better ways of doing what you are already doing. And from knowledge come power.

  • @johnquant9924
    @johnquant99242 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Which ergo is your favorite? Do you have a video specifically on the ErgoDox? [Langauge and manga nerd moment: BTW, "plus ultra" is not English for "+more" but a Latin motto meaning "more beyond," originally on the pillars of Hercules as "non plus ultra" 'nothing more beyond'].

  • @Jazzmusiek
    @Jazzmusiek2 жыл бұрын

    This is a really well made video. I’m surprised it doesn’t have more views

  • 3 ай бұрын

    I'm about moving to one of this popular split keyboard and listen your 5+ years exp helped me a lot. My only question is which one should I pick to start with no previous experience? I was considering the Kinesis freestyle 2 but still checking reviews.

  • @AndysTV
    @AndysTV2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! Do you think Kinesis Advantage 2 is more comfortable than the flat split keyboard?

  • @thiag-o
    @thiag-o2 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the good work. This video was eye opening! I might consider an Ergodox in the future. How do you feel about the Moonlander?

  • @beckyb9215
    @beckyb92152 жыл бұрын

    Hello, thank you for your awesome video! How does one begin to learn the usage of split keyboards.

  • @danielho5635
    @danielho56352 жыл бұрын

    Good review. I've been using a split keyboard (Kinesis Freestyle 2) for about 7 years now. I did it to reduce carpal tunnel syndrome (cured now). Everything you said was true. I'd like to add a few things that you may not have thought of: 1. Home Row Computing. Useful for any type of keyboard if you want to move around the screen faster w/o moving your hands away from the home row. 2. Colemak. I switched to this from QWERTY and I love it. Yes, the transition was hard, but it was well worth it. My QWERTY speed went from 120 to 80 wpm, but my Colemak speed is about 90 wpm with noticeably less finger fatigue at the end of the day. 3. Glasses. I've been wearing glasses since I was in 1st grade. People only think there are 2 types of glasses: reading and driving. WRONG! There's mid-distance. If you are in the 40+ age bracket and use the computer extensively during the day, you should consider getting mid-distance (computer) glasses. Measure the distance from your eyes to your monitor and have your optometrist make special glasses for this mid-distance. This will reduce eyestrain and make you hate your computer less. 4. Misc Helpful Gadgets: silicon wrist rests, corded lightweight gaming mouse, USB volume knob. Background. I've been typing since about 1979 and used to do programming back in the day but now mostly general computer tech stuff.

  • @450aday
    @450aday Жыл бұрын

    i am looking forward to the model that sticks two touchpads under the spacebar/thumb cluster area so all i have to do is stretch my thumb to access one or two cursor. that would be nice. Whenever a thumb touches a pad the keyboard instantly switches to the 'mouse' layer to access the right and left mouse buttons and much much more.

  • @__improwise__
    @__improwise__ Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a nice video. Would have liked a bit more on pros and cons of each keyboard though. Assuming that the Ergodox is probably the favorite? What about the Kinesis Advantage 2 which seems to be receiving high praise?

  • @sabbath9503

    @sabbath9503

    Жыл бұрын

    It's all just preferance when comparing many of the similar columnar staggered boards. Some offer a more aggressive pinky stagger, some use a different switch profile making it more low profile, some get rid of all the keys they deem unnecessary to further reduce finger travel. The Kinesis Advantage 2 has a static position, so you can't move each half further apart or closer together, which may be a flaw for many people.

  • @OanDeWaal
    @OanDeWaal7 ай бұрын

    Awesome video! Love the vibe. If you were to lose all you keyboards, and had to rebuy some, which would be your top two and why?

  • @afterglow392
    @afterglow3922 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for video, Im also programmer and has some pain for both wrists so I’ve watched how do I use keyboard and found that my hands too close to each other and wrists are doing a lot unnatural movements during the day so would like to try splitted keyboard

  • @tonijz
    @tonijz2 жыл бұрын

    Great video, it was fun to watch. Which is your favourite split keyboard and why? I’m slowly looking into getting one (probably moonlander based on reviews).

  • @heeku_
    @heeku_ Жыл бұрын

    if you have to make another purchase, would you buy an ergodox or a moonlander? (for big hands if that matters)

  • @michaelfigueroa8679
    @michaelfigueroa8679 Жыл бұрын

    You have opened my eyes bro. Now i just need a spilt keyboard now. Thank you😌

  • @vatinp
    @vatinp2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. I’m a translator and also use keyboard a lot. I’ve been through several split keyboards and now using a Planck for several years and am looking to return to split once more.

  • @dadmom3775
    @dadmom37755 ай бұрын

    This was a great video, however, I thought you would go over many types of split keyboardsss and how they each feel. Is it possible to do so? Or, do you have tried other than these are your two favorite

  • @evilsoler
    @evilsoler2 жыл бұрын

    Hello!!! nice vid. I have a question. Do you use the dedicated arrow keys on ergodox or are you using layers? i m thinking to go with the new dygma ortholinear keyboard which doesnt have dedicated arrows because of the mindset that using a combination of cluster key and e.g "h,j,k,l" is more ergonomic which i totally agree but i m thinking that i would like some times to have the option of using a dedicated key and not combination. I would like to know your opinion.

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    My Ergodox EZ does have dedicated arrow keys but never really use them because it’s actually really nice to not have to move hand at all. It’s one of my fav things about split keyboards. I rarely use arrow keys for anything other than programming or writing on computer so for me it’s perfect for me. What do you use arrow keys for generally? If it’s just to navigate around text document or code then using layers is just more optimized

  • @evilsoler

    @evilsoler

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ajackster It's basically for what you said code and text edit. I ll use keyboard shortcuts as much as i can and i m thinking that without dedicated arrows i ll have to go from two key combo to a three key. basically its going to be a bit like vim where i have to press a key to go to a "coomand" mode. I hope it 'll be fine, because i acknowldege the importance and the concept of not moving your hands. Also i was worried of a potential typing speed decrease on an ortho keyboard and it was a relief seeing you typing :)

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gotcha, another thing of note is all the split keyboards I’ve gotten have been completely customizable so if you’re into really customizing your workflow you’d be able to change keys around etc. you’d have to experiment with it a bit. And being comfortable w/ typing speed came after about a couple weeks of programming 8+ hours a day with it. It does feel a little odd at first but you just have to push through for a small period and then you’ll reap the benefits :)

  • @alaorilla9716
    @alaorilla97162 жыл бұрын

    Are there more options like the ergodox in your video? i want my thumb to be able to backspace. but the kinesis advantage one isnt truly split.

  • @alaorilla9716

    @alaorilla9716

    2 жыл бұрын

    I found the dygma raise + tenting kit

  • @mosjeff
    @mosjeff2 ай бұрын

    I'm so glad I finally found a video about a split keyboard from somebody who actually has deep experience with them (not somebody who tried it out for 7/14/30 days). Thanks so much!

  • @snoogcity
    @snoogcity2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video. Can’t believe it doesn’t have more views. Quality was amazing!!

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Hopefully the algorithm will start picking it up more :)

  • @ajaykrishna21
    @ajaykrishna212 жыл бұрын

    4 minutes in, I'm sold! - you just got a subscriber :)

  • @polar6066
    @polar6066 Жыл бұрын

    heard the ergodox has the cluster too far away, is the moonlander any good?

  • @alex01763
    @alex017632 жыл бұрын

    are there any good split keyboards that can be combined when needed?

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 Жыл бұрын

    As a PC gamer, I'm often using wasd and don't go to much further right than 5tgb. I also like to have my left and right hands close together when I play but the usual solution I have for that is to have my keyboard in my lap with my mouse hand directly above my wasd hand. A split keyboard would simply give me more options there. Your other arguments, including the drink one, lol, are all compelling.

  • @hyperkun

    @hyperkun

    3 ай бұрын

    what do you mean in your lap. im scared to imagine the unergonomic horrors youre unfolding upon yourself

  • @CarlosTorres-ez8ut
    @CarlosTorres-ez8ut Жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking about getting a corne keyboard as my option for split keyboard, the problem is that i do coding and i like gaming so.. is a split keyboard comfortable for gaming? not only valorant but games like WoW, btw nice video

  • @chaedr7694
    @chaedr76942 жыл бұрын

    I'm looking into building a split (corne or lily probably) and this was a great video! I am curious, though, as to how you accessed your arrow keys with the letters? I use the arrow keys so much and I definitely see what you mean by the extra movements. How did you get that to work?

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    On my split keyboard, I have a thumb key that changes "layers" as I hold it down. When I hold that key down my "I", "J", "K", and "L" keys change to arrows (and there are other transformations) You can achieve this with some traditional keyboards but the "change layer" thumb key on split keyboards is really comfy imo

  • @chaedr7694

    @chaedr7694

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ajackster Ooooh that makes sense! Finally I don't have to move my hands every time I mess something up hahah. Thanks for your insight!

  • @copycutvideo
    @copycutvideo21 күн бұрын

    Hello, did you have the chance to try an Alice layout keyboard?

  • @AyushGupta-wn6zd
    @AyushGupta-wn6zd Жыл бұрын

    This was really helpful. Untill now I've never thought much about split keyboards but this is definitely an eye opener. I hard agree on the top comment that you are talking about something you actually use.

  • @tanotive6182
    @tanotive6182 Жыл бұрын

    Now use the vim key bindings and you’ll become a god 🤌

  • @DavidGrossNYC

    @DavidGrossNYC

    13 күн бұрын

    Yeah if he thinks he has a productivity boost from the split keyboard he is going to be shocked once he learns VIM motions.

  • @aoeu256
    @aoeu256Ай бұрын

    I want to wear the split keyboard as bluetooth keyboard, any tips? I want my computer to be mirrored on my tablet and use the bluetooth keyboard to program and stuff.

  • @peanutman314
    @peanutman3148 ай бұрын

    What are you currently using? Out of the ones you showed, what would you recommend if you can only pick one?

  • @querovernatv
    @querovernatv Жыл бұрын

    how would it be to put the keyboard split each part in an arm of the chair?

  • @lexxmurk
    @lexxmurk2 жыл бұрын

    Great video man! Thank you for showing Ergodox EZ, im just thinking to moving from my k65 rgb corsair to something split almost a year, and after watching video 2-3 times(u did it well really, and your personal feelings with working on split ez amazing and involving, thanks) i've decide to try split keyboards atlast(tryed to come to split several times and something alltime not goes :D ). So my Ergodox EZ already shipping to me :) Once more, thanks!

  • @henu8638
    @henu8638 Жыл бұрын

    Do you prefer an angled split keyboard for gaming as well?

  • @etforde
    @etforde11 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed this video. Informative and just about exactly as nerdy as I’d expect 😂

  • @Gerz970
    @Gerz9702 жыл бұрын

    I built an iris rev 6 a month or two ago and at this point I never want to go back. At first it took some adjusting but typing it so much more comfortable now and even more efficient thanks to the thumb buttons and layers.

  • @JimM9999
    @JimM99992 жыл бұрын

    Fun review to watch!

  • @IDOLIKIofficial
    @IDOLIKIofficial2 жыл бұрын

    Is it weird that when I don't move my hand too much it becomes painful? I tried split keyboard but my hands where too static, therefore switching back to the traditional keyboard reduced my strain.

  • @disarmyouwitha
    @disarmyouwitha Жыл бұрын

    Have you tried a moonlander? Thoughts vs the ergodox?

  • @atom9164
    @atom91642 жыл бұрын

    Great video! But I have one question: Is it possible to build a custom split keyboard like how you can build regular keyboards? Or can you mod a split keyboard?

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes there’s lots of ways to build split keyboards. I haven’t done it myself (nor have I built a traditional one) but I know Ergodox and other brands sell parts and there are tutorials online to make them

  • @minime453

    @minime453

    2 жыл бұрын

    Keeb io sell a variety of split keyboard kits at competitive prices

  • @gg-gn3re

    @gg-gn3re

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes, ultimate hacker keyboard is open source, has several different styles of mice built into it etc.

  • @wafleez0r
    @wafleez0r Жыл бұрын

    I'm a 100% sold on split keyboards. But I don't know which one to get, since also there aren't many available in my country. I can get an alice style one, what do you think about those? Ergonomically split enough or nah? Loved the video btw :)

  • @nathanwailes
    @nathanwailes Жыл бұрын

    What was the website used to do the typing test? Update: it was TypeRacer. I just did a race on the site while using an Arteck wireless "Ultra slim keyboard" (not a split keyboard) and got 115wpm. I notice that the "normal" keyboard he used in the video seemed to have high keys with a lot of travel distance. I hate typing on keyboards like that, I find it's a lot slower to type.

  • @nicholash8021

    @nicholash8021

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The 4mm travel on my switches is just way too much

  • @paulboquant5692
    @paulboquant56922 жыл бұрын

    Hello, really good video ! How did you come to the conclusion of switching from Kinesis to Ergodox ? :)

  • @Ajackster

    @Ajackster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey glad you liked it! No particular reason - I mainly moved to the Ergo because my Kinesis is fairly old and early gen (got it used) and wanted to try a newer keyboard. It’s still a great keyboard

  • @GUIHTD
    @GUIHTD Жыл бұрын

    The bit about best programming moments being the smell of fresh coffee and typing on a split keyboard is so true! I've been using a split keyboard for nearly 4 years, and it just feels so Magnifique! to type on. Highly recommended to all full time programmers out there. (I use the Iris from keebio) I would add that my favorite programming moments include using vim. It just feels soooo good!

  • @streamstriss
    @streamstriss2 жыл бұрын

    Been loving my Kinesis Advantage for many years.

  • @pgameplay9639
    @pgameplay9639 Жыл бұрын

    Dude you are amazing!

  • @suburbanyute340
    @suburbanyute3402 жыл бұрын

    I just bought the Moon lander from ZSA. my first split keyboard. Can't wait to use it

  • @rainyonrecord
    @rainyonrecord Жыл бұрын

    split keyboards for programming are nice I can agree, but I never could find my self using a split keyboard as it just feels off I'm not used to it, I found I could get good performance if not better by making use of a smaller keyboard (The one I use today is the system76 launch lite with my own modified version of the key layout mainly just rearranged shortcuts), I also make use of the colemak layout instead of qwerty and also some macros.

  • @squirts1
    @squirts12 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts on Moonlander? or the Dygma Defy?

  • @motherjugs5163
    @motherjugs5163 Жыл бұрын

    Keyboard expert and comedian! LOVE THIS!

  • @jammies701
    @jammies701 Жыл бұрын

    Such a good video I had to come back to it just because it’s so good

  • @athanasiospetsas9367
    @athanasiospetsas93676 ай бұрын

    Man, I came here after watching a ton of split keyboards video and I can't stop laughing from the editing and everything! This is amazing, thanks! Hahahaha! Very enjoyable! :)

  • @meeshoot3850
    @meeshoot3850 Жыл бұрын

    thanks for tips !

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