I don’t want Jack back lol. His ending in Tales was so good and I don’t want current gearbox to sully it.

@kodi1722

Жыл бұрын

His wife and kid being back would most likely change him after all. Assuming we don't get him back, from the last time we see him alive

@lazlotakahashi4150

Жыл бұрын

@@kodi1722 I don’t want him to change. That’s just not Jack lol

@sasuto4572

Жыл бұрын

With all that cancel culture and shit, bringing back jack will probably not be good

@JDWalker495

Жыл бұрын

@@lazlotakahashi4150 technically it was Jack, but their accident shaped him into what he’s most recognized as Although I agree, we don’t need him back, it would be too redundant with Timothy and Rhys, and I HIGHLY doubt they would they him back after all teh work it took to take him out

@Godviahh

Жыл бұрын

@@sasuto4572 shut up. lmao.

For me, the storyline I want more about is the seventh siren, and why Nyriad warns about seeking her out.

@dwarfdigger135

Жыл бұрын

Didn't Nyriad say that finding the 7th would be the end of everything?

@LazyboneBandit

Жыл бұрын

@@dwarfdigger135 It definitely wasn't described favourably!

@savannahs.5874

Жыл бұрын

After NTFTB maybe that’s what we need 😭

@LazyboneBandit

Жыл бұрын

@Hecker Bonker During 2 Tyreen would already have her powers, no?

@inkedvillan80

11 ай бұрын

@@heckerbonker3377 jack says 6 and he knows 3. Angel, lilith, and maya. You could say amara was one at the time so there is still 2 he didnt know and a 7th being 3. I feel like tyreen was maybe born a siren since she was conceived in the vault. How can we say she just wasnt one of the 2 he didnt know??

I've still wondered about that "war" and SO expect it to be the finale

It almost feels like the crystal will just be one big Undo button to fix everything, if it does carry over, and that pretty much kills all the stakes. Maya's death didn't go over well, hey look, we can bring her back! New villains aren't working out, let's bring back Jack! We need a true leader to tackle the Big Bad, let's trash everything we had Lilith go through and our own failed effort at making Ava relevant and bring back Roland! If death is no longer a true danger, the story has no weight to it.

@jansonshrock2859

Жыл бұрын

@T.K. Baha, whose entertainment value only goes up after being brought back from the dead

@acedias12

Жыл бұрын

Even if they do end up somehow going with that route of bringing people back from dead, I have very little confidence in the current writing team to juggle with that many characters. Said writers already showed how inept they were with BL3, by either sending characters elsewhere off screen or straight up killing them off on screen. And also, Watcher: "There's a great war coming, you need all the help." Writers: "Let's have them go separate ways!"

@TuxTxFpv

11 ай бұрын

Just call it a parallel universe and boom. Problem solved. Dc and marvel have been making billions off that alone.

@jrpgnation6375

9 ай бұрын

Stories don't need dead to carry weight. It is a fallacy to think so.

@captaincrunch1707

9 ай бұрын

@@jrpgnation6375I agree , a good story is a good story

I'm sure a bunch of people have brought it up, but in kriegs mind you can talk to Maya afterwards and she brings up the 6 sirens but says they aren't always the same and something different is coming. I can't wait to see were the story goes.

I really hope to see all the previous vault hunters return, the ones that are still alive mind you, and band together for whatever the next challenge for Pandora is. Give them all updated and reworked skill trees to make each vault hunter distinct. I still want new vault hunters but they aren't my main concern. Also hopefully some of the mechanics from wonderlands come over the the main series, like the melee improvements and spell like grenades being the most fun new additions.

@maksymisaiev1828

Жыл бұрын

the only Vault Hunter, which was missing in Borderlands 3 is Athena. Everybody else is dead or was present in one way or another, even if as a cameo (Salvador and Axton I am talking about you).

@bigbangrafa8435

Жыл бұрын

I would love to see everyone who died back. There's no real "Catch a Ride" without Scooter, and I would love to see Nisha's ass in this new engine. Plus, we could also undo the oopsie of Maya's death in BL3 in a swift, kind of "Hey, I'm sorry!" way.

@Rachebart

11 ай бұрын

I want for bl4 to play every vault hunter from all games

@MrTrev80

11 ай бұрын

Being Sal again would be fun.

@TheReZisTLust

11 ай бұрын

With Wonderland bringing back Zero would be wise cause we got swords now, just tweak some powers and bam, we got intro Zero bl2 playable

The watcher is mentioned by the guardians in the proving ground trials and the guardian takedown

BOYS!! New Eruption Fang BL video dropped!!

This would be a moment you wish Roland is still around, they will need all the leadership they will need

@00Mike55

Жыл бұрын

Right? I also feel they did Lilith dirty in 3, she had more character development in the Commander Lilith DLC for 2 than she did in BL3.

@readingfreak8808

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely only an complete maniac without a brain would leave the control over the crimson raiders in the hands a child that has shown no leadership qualifications or experience in leading people .

@TheCrossed23

Жыл бұрын

Who needs Roland when we have the amazing Ava to lead us..........😂

@Armendicus

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCrossed23made no sense why Tannis wasnt given the role. Hell even Liz , Hammerlock , Markus , Marius or friggn Claptrap wouldve made more sense!!

@josephschultz

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCrossed23 Damn beat me to it, Pouting face with mad side glance your way I'd kick and scream laying on ground but you can't see that LOL🤣🤣

All very valid points and I do hope that especially the war comes into play in 4. But there is one more thing. Nyriad mentioned a 7th Siren. That MUST be a big plot point of Borderlands 4

@ASirensFlame

Жыл бұрын

What if Nyriad is the 7th Syren

@FloundBlacky

Жыл бұрын

@@ASirensFlame Cant. She is the Leech Siren one of the six we know

@ASirensFlame

Жыл бұрын

@@FloundBlacky Wasn't Tyreen the leech siren? Lillith phasewalk Ava phaselock Tennis Phase tech Amara PhaseArms

@FloundBlacky

Жыл бұрын

@@ASirensFlame Nyriad was the leech Siren THOUSANDS of years ago. She imprisoned herself in the vault that Typhon and his wife found and freed her powers. Thats why when Tyreen and Troy were born they became the new leech Siren

@lucienhaulotte4049

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the weird eridian creature that announced the war is a siren, it was never stated only human could be sirens

A Borderlands game where you can play as all the previous vault hunters would be insane. The question is how the story would be, considering that the idea of being playable means they can't be an npc? Maybe different story paths for certain parts (Which can be played with any vault hunter in TVHM)? There's also all the dead vault hunters.

@lavellelee5734

Жыл бұрын

Great idea

@discipleofdagon8195

11 ай бұрын

ok but hear me out: MR TORGUE VAULT HUNTER??? *AGGRESSIVE AIR GUITAR NOISES*

@GaryTurbo

10 ай бұрын

It has to build up slowly like MCU, probably won't be till Borderlands 7

@martynas1819

10 ай бұрын

Nah. Lilith, Roland, Maya, Wilhelm, and Aurelia are all dead. It would make no sense

@GaryTurbo

10 ай бұрын

Lilith isnt dead and Wilhelm, and Aurelia are evil and dont care about the war

The War wasnt completely dropped. Only very subtly hidden. The hidden Arenas in 3 that are overseen by a Guardian has him talking about how the VHs are taking over their job and the Guardians are up to something.

I demand a Pre-Sequel 2 that tells the fall of Sanctuary 2

@fulltimeslackerii8229

Жыл бұрын

that should have been a DLC for the pre-sequel

@elishuster5943

Жыл бұрын

I so wonder what happened to Sanctuary 2 although I'm not sure they'd use the pre sequel in the name because the first game got such a bad rap

@borislovothered8124

Жыл бұрын

@@elishuster5943 it was fun but the grinder kill it for me, why farm when i can just dupe all my gear in there

@Uragan00829

Жыл бұрын

We don't talk about Sanctuary 2

@bandigustin1038

Жыл бұрын

@@Uragan00829 we must tho because it would fill plot holes

My wishlist for Borderlands 4: The War the Watcher warned us about NEEDS TO HAPPEN!! Ava working with the remaining Bl2 vault hunters to honor Maya's memory and probably going out like a hero. Rhys and Atlas teaming up with the crimson raiders with those ships seen in New Tales from the Borderlands. The only New Tales characters that should be seen are Lou13 and Fran. (Octavio needs to die) No time travel at all Finding Lilith. Space combat Eridian antagonist and last but not least MORE GUNS!!

@JDWalker495

Жыл бұрын

Mostly agree, but why does Fran need to be back?

@JDWalker495

Жыл бұрын

Also who or want do you think will be the final villain I think it will be The Destroyer

@michaelknox3715

Жыл бұрын

@@JDWalker495 I just thing her, Brock the talking Tediore gun, Lou13 and the badass superfan were the kinda felt like Borderlands characters.

@JDWalker495

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelknox3715 once again, agreed for everyone but Fran To me she was the most annoying, but also she has no place in a war, she survive as long as she did “in most playthroughs” cause the tediore soldiers were idiots.

@elishuster5943

Жыл бұрын

​@@JDWalker495 but the destroyer has already been in 2 games. It's got to be something new. Maybe the timekeeper?

borderlands 4 needs to be the avengers of the fracnchise, combining every protagonists and antagonists, and mostly include the lore of B3 dlc's, return of Rosa and Jakobs secret, return of Timothy, and a real inclusion of Sal and Axton

@readingfreak8808

Жыл бұрын

Could you imagine rose (from bounty of blood) captain Scarlett (from bl2 ) teaming up ?

@rockzyk1291

Жыл бұрын

"Jakobs secret" What are you referring to?

@SweetAHE

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah because the marvel movies aren't just money printing machines that they've milked 'till the teat ran dry... oh wait... Randy...

@pedrolitotequila2434

Жыл бұрын

@@rockzyk1291 it s litteraly the bounty of blood climax, there is a long dialog in an slow elevator and we discover when we get down that the company of gehenna is Jakobs, and it s surprising because we thought jakobs were nice rednecks with a CEO that married hammerlock

What if the vault monsters are past sirens and that’s why other sirens can take power from them

@noelleholiday61

Жыл бұрын

You mean the...one siren that can do that? That could do that with EVERY living creature?

@ems_wowerz8882

Жыл бұрын

@@noelleholiday61 😭I’m finna replay the games

@ariabritton9669

Жыл бұрын

what if the real vault monsters were the friends we made along the way?

One thing that confused me about the vault monster is that if they were created due to the vault itself why the inconsistent creature that were formed. One thing i have notice though was the fact they were tied to what was in the vault itself. An example would be the ravenger a destructive creature that was houses in the same vault as the eridian resonater which was used to destroy the eridian chunk. Or the grave ward that once killed became the monster essentially turning into artifact to power the creature just like how we find the ability to equip artifact in the vault. One other thing is the fact monster that look like they were created such as the warrior or the sentinal helds stuff that give knowledge like the ability to see the future or the warrior unlocking the ability to see vault on planet. This may also help understand what was found in the traveler vault.

Would love to see all the current living vault hunters return with new/upgraded specials and skills

@Slumpedkashi

11 ай бұрын

Nah that would make zero sense

With as awesome as it could be to bring back old characters, its best to keep them dead. Cause if you bring everyone back, you remove all stakes from the story. The story still needs to move forward and hopefully answer questions and possibly get the Great War started.

@henrydrago

Жыл бұрын

They can being bring back just to gameplay, as seen our vault hunter has no interaction with the story since BL3, but for lore, at least ghosts for a few moments idk

@aaronh678

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. If they did a full revive. Maybe it has consequences were it can only happen once or something. It is Gearboxes universe. They can set the rules on what reviving people does in terms of consequences or if it will be able to revive a second time.

Knowing Ava probably is our leader that bossing us around. Ain't too excited for BL4. But will still having fun for their gameplay regardless

I always assumed that the "war" was the one against the twins but I really don't want that to be the case

@D_Quinn

Жыл бұрын

The devs pretty much confirmed BL3 wasnt the War they were talking about, we're expecting something much much bigger, on a cosmic scale

@mastergamingdude6191

11 ай бұрын

@@D_Quinn Im glad man cuz even tho i love BL3 the calypsos were so fucking disappointing I really hope they've got something big planned

The essential question arose is... how are they going to make an interesting story after what happened on the 3 and NTFTB??? It would be a total miracle, the gameplay will be huge it's obvious but the story scares me

@StoryTeller-John

Жыл бұрын

Ntftb??

@hoytkeyler1997

Жыл бұрын

@@StoryTeller-Johnnew tales from the borderlands, the last one

@StoryTeller-John

Жыл бұрын

@@hoytkeyler1997 👍

@zweiigorgon8980

Жыл бұрын

I have no faith after NTFTB, they have no respect anymore for the IP and have proven time and time again even with the BL3 DLC's that the direction they are taking is honestly fucking abysmal lol

@ack7956

Жыл бұрын

​@@zweiigorgon8980 We can only hope they stick the landing 😭

One of my all time dreams for this series, and something that only increases with each release, is the possibility of playing as any of the vault hunters from any game, being cannon or not, I'd just love to see that, improved skills and balance. So the idea of bringing everyone back for something as dangerous as the destroyer actually coming out of Pandora would be awesome, I mean, they already spilled the beans with such power existing in the universe with new tales, may as well go all the way.

If love to see everyone come back, there are a lot of storylines that are unfinished. I feel Lilith and Roland never fully settled things with each other and id love to see Maya come back and her and kreig get their conclusion. Jack would be nice just not as the main bad guy and scooter I just love him

@kingimura2430

Жыл бұрын

Lilith is inside Elpis, Roland's dead, Maya is technically alive in Krieg's mind, and finally, Jack and Scooter are both dead. I highly doubt they'll bring back long-dead characters. ETA: Forgot that NTFTB was a thing, even though I literally just watched a video about it a few days ago.

@ack7956

Жыл бұрын

Roland's death is one of the best video game deaths I know, I'd *LOATHE* Gearbox if they brought him back to life and just said "nah" to all the stuff that avalanched because of his death.

@BlueCheeseLucci

5 ай бұрын

So bring every dead character back to life, honestly that's kinda wack and idk if I would like it. Makes it feels like no one can die

they’re not gonna follow up on pre-sequel. it’s just gonna be more of the “lilith is awesome”show

Keep up these videos love watching them

"The Watcher talking about how they need all the vaunt hunters they can get." The plot of the Borderlands Arena of Badassery board game is Mister Torgue cloning vaunt hunters from BL1 to BL3 plus 4 new ones for his own amusement, for a total of 24 vault hunters. What if...that's the Watcher's War and the Watcher is just really dramatic about it? :P

It makes sense that Borderlands 3 wasn't when the war happened. To me, "you're going to need all the Vault hunters you can get" sounds very much like "go out to other planets and find people to recruit", which is what happened in Borderlands 3 (assuming "Vault Hunters" here would be more akin to "adventurers" or "mercenaries" rather than the typical Vault Hunters that do the Vault Hunting thing).

Bruh you do a great job on these videos,enjoy them alot

I just want the original Tales from the Borderlands crew back together again, after the car crash that was New Tales, it made me miss their story even more.

Probably the could bring back Steele to since her siren powers still be a mystery

@LazyboneBandit

Жыл бұрын

Since Steele died, my guess is that her powers have been passed on to the next playable siren.

I really disappointed that bl 3 is disconnected from previous bl title story(lack of mention of stuff or mystery stuff like the seraph) while even pre sequel had better story connection... They dont need to bring back jack or make jack like villain on next title... I mean they completely forget about the seraph.. yeah you can argue seraph is just dlc economy stuff from bl2... But it has good expansion potential for main story of who we are at war with? The seraph will be good candidate... Also if seraph is only just afterthought why do they need to went as far to add seraph vendor unique dialogue that hinted that we have to stop them (the seraph)... Its sad that they forget about it... Seraph could be made to be something that even eridian fear...

12:29 with that radiation your speaking of could be the eridium that she used back in borderlands 2 and in borderlands 3 to basically power up. similar to a drug in the borderlands wise and is known to not be good for them.

@mrxnacho7925

11 ай бұрын

If that is what your saying maybe there others that are ending up like this

@spikers6669

11 ай бұрын

@mrxnacho7925 possible. But does seem like a drug type thing for them because using it makes them eventually die if I remember right from the games

I just realized something. How would bringing back past sirens work if they're powers are currently being used by another siren. Like maya If we brought Maya back would she have her powers? Would Ava lose hers? Would we even be able to bring her back at all?

@mosstwig3591

Жыл бұрын

They'd probably come back as regular people

Completely off topic from this video: Red vs. Blue: Restoration

I was thinking they would expand outside of Pandora and it's galaxy and actually go to the eridians galaxy, we had the watcher warn us in presequel, also while we are transcending into the unknown territory of the eridian planets, we also search for Lilith and her whereabouts. She might of gotten teleported to the eridan galaxy or got stuck in one of the vaults. The Eridians have to be Thanos level villain too. Eridans have been present since BL1, also Zarpadon in TPS mentioned the eridans a bunch and the power they possess. That's my take for the future of borderlands

Fighting alongside characters that died would be really cool, as long as the way they come back makes sense and doesnt discredit their death~ could even be in a “they will die afterwards” way hmmm

I think a cool theory is this Gem revives the leaders of different factions who have died. Zarpadon from the pre sequel, Handsome Jack, the calipso twins, katagawa. We could get this massive war with those 4 revived that's 4 huge factions who could oppose the vault hunters and would have beef with them. Cause then you'd have Bandits, Hyperion, Dahl and Malawan teaming up against the vault hunters.

Nice work Fang. Thanks.

I really surprised that no one talks about the 7th siren, when borderlands lore originally was only 6 sirens can exist at the same time. Yet in borderlands 3 there was a echo log that mentions the 7th siren and we must not find the 7th

I want to see an Avengers Endgame Portals scene for a climatic battle in BL4. But instead of portals, all the Vault Hunters come flying over a cliff in Catch-A-Ride, with Ellie reigning down hellfire from Sanctuary (the ship). With the Ain't no rest for the wicked song playing. Imagine you're the new gen vault hunter. About to get obliterated by the giant vault monster god-king. And in the far distance, you hear a song playing on a stereo. Brick and mordecai in a car, Roland and lillith in another. Zero, Maya, Ava, krieg, Axton in a bandit technical car. Fl4k riding on a cyclone with an army of skags, jabbers and spiderants in tow. Zane flying in with Moze on her bear. Surprise guest, Handsome Jack comes in clutch with some hyperion bots.

@jeanjasmin6263

Жыл бұрын

What about Salvador?

@GeoffC19

Жыл бұрын

Scooter and Ellie raining hellfire down - if anyone deserves the comeback, it's him

@marrarilander9239

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanjasmin6263 Well you see, Salvador comes flying in at Mach 3 with 2 badabooms in hand rocket jumping

@meta3323

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoffC19 Sccoter rebuilt Carinivora and used that 🤣

@jeanjasmin6263

Жыл бұрын

@@marrarilander9239 can't forget to give him a couple of DPUH's

What about Captain Scarlet from the pirate dlc? She's still around

The multiverse is coming to borderlands

After Bl3 and wonderlands, i really hope gearbox learned their lesson. Bl4 has to be perfect

As an actual mainline game the crystal probably isn't a good fit but as dlc it could be cool to be used as an excuse to bring back previously fought bosses but in a smaller more contained environment

I'm just here waiting your breakdown for the Borderlands movie. Really excited to see you take of it.

Jack going to cosplay as The Starchild in his see thru Tales from the Borderlands skin

it is like dr who in the Lodge Borderlands 3 DLC

I hope Ava is the first casualty, just so the powers she robbed Maya of can be given to literally fucking anybody else

jack has done his story arc he does not need to come back and neither should he they need to make a new villain which i think with the trend of zainy unserious characters we could use someone who is 1: a serious threat 2: has goals beyond just power alone 3: isnt in constant contact with the characters preferably in way that the players and characters are seaching for him/her/they after discovering something they did in history or via unexplained phenomena and 4: preferably choosing weather or not the player was actually involved in the cutscenes. a serious villain would be a great way to change the image of ava which was destroyed in 3 when her arc really could have been good if maya's death was treated with any smidgeon of tact and probably would do a lot to show her (supposed) ability to lead or at least ability to learn. gameplay needs a overhaul but thats for a different video.

Captain Scarlet is a loose end still needs to be tied up. Also it would be pretty insane if Aslan De Vega is still alive.

Everything past the second game doesn't even have the spirit

All roads lead to *Lieberman.*

imagine being able to play as all 16 vault hunters would be really cool. or maybe do it like ttwl and we become a vault hunter with varying skills

Is it not possible that Mancubus or the Lodge is in fact the Timekeeper?

Outside of the Eridian guardian story, i'd like to see more storytelling for the Vault Hunter that we all have gotten attached to especially the BL 3 ones.

jack says that only six sirens can exist without the universe imploding we know currently of three after troy tyrene and lillith exited the game. one of the dialogues from the queen i think says beware the seventh. perhaps what happened to lillith is that she got put out of the universe? whcih would allow the new sirens to get the numbers up to 6 while letting a 7th exist. perhaps the beware of the 7 message is meant to forewarn that lillith coming back would be catastrophic.

i feel like the only direction for borderlands to go without getting dry and old would be to go the destiny route

Tales from the borderlands directly set up for Borderlands 3, it only makes sense New tales from the borderlands would do the same. Did you see they cliff hanger they set up with timm-e? I believe he will have a vital role in the story for the next mainline borderlands game.

I can think about a few more unfinished storylines there is the huge army of loaderbots at the handsome jackpot under the controll of moxxi, there is the think with the new leader of hyperion , maybe it is athena because it can explain why she is at the leader meeting from tediore and her gimmik was always a shield like the shieldfunction from hyperion weaponary sins borderlands 3 and in tales form the borderlands she was corupted by an dark magicy think. So there is a lot of open plots to continue.

I do remember in borderlands three There were cliffs you could scan and gave you history lessons. One of them was about a 7th siren.

I think that the revive plot could work but it would need some restrictions like bringing people back to fight the war and then going back to rest. Like for example it could have been an eridian backup plan if things went really bad, but they probably couldnt use for some reason.

Okay but what if jack comes back as an ally and takes a bullet for Roland in a redemption arc

4 years later, and it still baffles me that they didn’t follow up on the Watcher and their “war.” Talk about a wasted plot.

One thing I want to know, is the Destroyer confirmed dead (it’s immortal), cause if not it’s likely to be the final villain. Now that might seem redundant since it was technically the final bass of both 1 and 3, but it was never the focal point of the story, never the ‘main’ villain that interacts with since the start of the story. The lore builds it up as this ever growing threat that evolves as it eats and is functionally immortal. Yet despite growing stronger and smarter after supposedly consuming the eridians it never shows sentience. I see the final war basically be a halo flood like scenario, where the Destroyer takes FULL center stage as it threat to consume everything in the universe, it may use use tech from the eridians or even the eridians themselves (zombies or something) to combat the player. This would be a threat requiring the help of EVERY vault hunter and warranting the use of a godlike item like anatheium gem, to kill completely. Hell it could probably banter throughout the game with the player in classic BL fashion since it’s meant to grow smarter as well. And the reason why the Seer might’ve tried to stop us is because the destroyer is meant to the natural end of the universe, becoming another big bang after it’s consumed everything and starting the process over. (A Ragnarock)

@jaydantastic3529

Жыл бұрын

in my opinion i think the destroyer is dead due to the fact that tyreen fused with it, a mortal and immortal fusion would weaken their structure and make them killable

@elishuster5943

Жыл бұрын

I thought that the destroyer did die permanently because it fused itself with something living (tyreen)

Mmm this is true b4 might be better than b3 but we need more storyline that's what we might get mmm I hope they make b4 I think

You can't imagine how hyped I would be for such an outcome, fighting alongside with Jack and everybody else that has died, in a great war that has something to do with kind of mysterious forces would be so so awesome! I can't wait for the next Borderlands game, hopefully it's going to be as great or even greater as Borderlands 2 was as the devs seem to be taking their time for the next one.

jack could come back with the gem as; one of the reasons for him being evil was the death of his wife which the gem has the power to return to him under the deal of assistant. this would also if done right give us chance to see how jack would change or if he would change if given a complete second chance. note (in my opinion being AI jack isn't a second chance as an AI ghost detach from it all and possibly limited in action as his data is base on crazy jack I'm willing to text/say that jack may act differently than it.)

Borderlands 1 has made it clear the destroyer needs to die. Jack used its eye as a weapon. The twins wanted to use its power to snuff out all stars. Like what is IT able to do alone is a huge thread since the vaults was made to keep it away. I can imagine borderlands 4 is about finally killing the destroyer for good. The twins released its chains so can see it getting out of its vault in borderlands 4

The watcher actually is mentioned in the gaurdian takedown

I always wondered if the Vault monsters weren't all old sirens that were corrupted at some point. Maybe there was more at some point but due to corruption only the 6 remain that we know about

I really like the idea of Jack coming back and working with the other vault hunters to stop a greater threat in borderlands 4.

id love to see more done with the bounty of blood dlc/the history of jakobs, just because of how good the environment of the dlc was.

I think that if they do resurrect a ton of dead characters it's going to be limited in some way (like maybe the shard can only bring back people whom it itself has killed with ease and that the further back someone died the harder it is to not only bring them back but keep them back (making it so we might have to spend the entire game charging up the crystal for each resurrection and then in the final battle the crystal could be shattered severing the line that's resurrecting them putting them on a time limit and I suspect that the time keeper will have some young xehanort type limitation where characters can't be brought back only taken from a moment before they're death and at the end of the battle they are forced to return whence they came like imagine Roland gets brought back for the final battle and Lilith has to go through him dying again effectively I also suspect that anything the time keeper can do requires an equal trade like to bring someone who died ten years ago back the vault hunter must sacrifice ten years of there future as cost to pull it off Honestly I feel like the best possible way this can go is we have to locate the time keeper and shard but even with there combined powers all the characters resurrected can't permanently come back or if they can it will be at great personal cost (albeit I could see the lodge potentially coming in clutch or Tanis and fixing the problem (like imagine if those resurrected through the time keeper are temporally unwinding but the lodge can halt that while Tanis figures out a more permanent solution and the shard whilst resurrecting there body limits there lifespan or something

@lavellelee5734

Жыл бұрын

Great ideas

Most like bl4 will be about trying to revive old friends back by time traveling maybe? Find and Defeat the timekeeper then start traveling. Maybe find jack to make him a good guy? Idk.

I believe Jack from the First Tales game I would like to think is in Borderlands 3. Rhys gives his Jack Eye to Blake and Hyperion creates the Jackhammer.

Idc what happens. But if either jakobs or hammerlock die, ima be real hurt

It really could the the dragonball of loot and shooters if they flub up this story. I like the concept of bringing back (copium for maya) but it essentially reverses the point of borderlands story as sure the stakes may be higher than ever, but knowing there is a *way* to bring back dead people means once the honeymoon phase is over people will realize that somewhere we can have a dues ex ruin the tension.

@sebay4654

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I think that if they do resurrect a ton of dead characters it's going to be limited in some way (like maybe the shard can only bring back people whom it itself has killed with ease and that the further back someone died the harder it is to not only bring them back but keep them back (making it so we might have to spend the entire game charging up the crystal for each resurrection and then in the final battle the crystal could be shattered severing the line that's resurrecting them putting them on a time limit and I suspect that the time keeper will have some young xehanort type limitation where characters can't be brought back only taken from a moment before they're death and at the end of the battle they are forced to return whence they came like imagine Roland gets brought back for the final battle and Lilith has to go through him dying again effectively I also suspect that anything the time keeper can do requires an equal trade like to bring someone who died ten years ago back the vault hunter must sacrifice ten years of there future as cost to pull it off Honestly I feel like the best possible way this can go is we have to locate the time keeper and shard but even with there combined powers all the characters resurrected can't permanently come back or if they can it will be at great personal cost (albeit I could see the lodge potentially coming in clutch or Tanis and fixing the problem (like imagine if those resurrected through the time keeper are temporally unwinding but the lodge can halt that while Tanis figures out a more permanent solution and the shard whilst resurrecting there body limits there lifespan or something

I think the only way where they bring back Jack and not get a ton of hate is if he's a playable character, who's in it to redeem himself to his wife and daughter after all the horrible stuff he's done.

@alister2755

Жыл бұрын

i agree with this it's a good concept in itself his wife doesn't know what he had done so proving himself to angel that he wants to change would make sense seeing jack return could reopen the doplganger skill idea or potentially allow us to see a new skill tree or a potential new safe base if they were to attempt to rebuild helios at some point or some new space station maybe we turn sanctuary 3 into some type of helios 2 like space craft allowing us to maintain a larger army all cool ideas in my head

@BlueCheeseLucci

5 ай бұрын

No why can't we just leave Jack as a great villain and we kinda did play him as tim his body double

Something Ive wondered about Lilith and her powers post Vault opening and with Eridium returning to Pandora is that in 2 there is a bit of timey wimey ness at work with her. We traverse like 2 maps spanning miles and fighting tons of foes to get to the Highlands where Floating Sanctuary reappears but Lilith teleported away again at least an hour ago and is just now showing up on our screens. Sure you could explain that its a cool visual and they just wanted to see it again but it does seem like her Firehawk powers in general dont really adhere to the laws of time and space especially when pushed to their limits. So Lilith could just show up somewhere in the universe years from now and feel like she just left which could be interesting as we again were warned "Not to find the 7th" and currently until Lilith reconsitiutes in the main timeline there is only 6(or 5 but Leech presumably is on its way to someone) sirens which falls in line with the rules of the universe meaning Lilith's return could be the inciting incident that kicks off 4s storyline especially if that story finally IS what The Watcher warned about

They gotta bring back Anthony Burch to fix the shitshow the writters did in bl3

I'm grasping for straws here but the war timeline could be good. Though Troy and Tyreen seemingly had different powers. With them being conjoined twins the leech siren abilities could've been divided. Seeing how Tyreen "reunited" those abilities and merged with the destroyer. The destroyer might now have the knowledge and power to manifest it's self into the Borderlands universe. It's power not limited by form. It might also have the ability to bless other beings, that being the army this war is fought against.

Thanks for the spoliers warnings

I have a really good feeling that we might see something relating to Borderlands 4 at the Summer Game Fest, since Gearbox is showing up there, but still. As for the storyline, I think that we might get the Watcher’s War and the fate of Lilith in the fourth game, I don’t know anything about that green stone in the new tales of borderlands game, I see it as a eyesore, if they resurrect characters, they have to choose carefully on who to bring back and make it work. 🤨🤔🤔🤔

I personally would love to see all these ideas expanded upon. A war where “everyone is needed”, would be a great set up to flesh out these characters and stories in the BL world. Some other things; What is up with a 7th Siren? I want Mech Gortys back for a war! BL 4 will be developing on Unreal Engine 5 the game could be incredible and future installments can be even crazier!

@EruptionFang I have now devoured all of your Borderlands lore content and still miss Ech Logs from Part 1+2+TPS. Can you still do it too?

Borderlands 4 will all vault hunters as playable.... Yes plz !

Imagine being able to play as one of the many vault hunters in 4 n all their classes gets a massive upgrade

It would be cool to play as all the characters from every borderlands game along with new ones.

I only just noticed, but Handsome jack's right hand? it has a sort of... metal connector to his arm... and it's the sam hand Timothy cuts off in BL3 so you can win the dlc. Is this just because of the "winning" hand that JAck will have also had in addition to all his decoys so there were no differences between them? good chance this is common knowledge at this point but I only just noticed it here

Good luck on the house hunt

I feel like people forget that Pre-Sequel takes place before Borderlands 2. And the main point of Borderlands 2 is that, The Crimson Raiders and Hyperion are at *WAR*

If borderline 4 does come out at some it should have a character creation so the story mode can evolve around you

If we use the time keeper it could take the past dead vault from the past like a past sane jack finding out what will happen to him or something for maya and criage

4:54 Sub space Emissary in Borderlands, oh yeeahh

Every question around Jack coming back was sorta like, “no there’s no way, oh wait if EVERYONE is back”

I can't wait for BL4 for the siren character to do something stupid and get one of the Vault hunters from BL3 killed for cheap shock value. It's a staple of the franchise at this point.

I always forget Mancubus was voice by Arin

(I wrote a lot. Updated the first paragraph to be a little less condesending.) My personal experience with Borderlands. In 2015 My brother and Father introduced me to Borderlands 2 once I was old enough in the hopes of getting me into FPS games. I didnt get into the game until 2018 and my first Char was Salvador. For the next month i did about 2 entire playthroughs and was playing it until Bl3 came out. We were all hyped and would often jam the Trailer music to sing along and jam. To cut a long story short, Borderlands 3 broke our hearts, My brother and Father who got me into this franchise, now will probably never play another title, becuase playing 3 leaves you with a feeling of confusion, depression and anger. It really made me look back at what made me like the older titles: Borderlands 2 is fun to play becuase the gameplay in that game is Easy to learn, hard to master, (If you play the game the intended way). Every environment in that game is so highly detailed and memorable, the music you can jam along to and it adds detail to what environment you're in. Southern Shelf makes you feel super cold and desolate, Caustic Caverns makes you feel underground and gloomy, Opportunity makes you feel like your somewhere futuristic, you get the idea . Every gun manufactuer does different things, the Story is 10/10, unique enemy dialogue. Borderlands 2 is on a whole other plain of existance when it comes to immersion and fun. In 2021 I played the Pre-sequel becuase that was reccomended to me a lot. And I loved it, it was peak borderlands. Exploring somewhat linear areas, working with Hyperion when you kicked their asses in 2, the Low-low grav, the music. The story is pretty good, not great but good. The vault hunters were all really well designed, Nisha, Wilhelm, Athena, Fragtrap, Name that rhymes with "Jimothy" and Aurelia. You guys will have your complaints about this game, I will probably agree with them! But this game set in space around one of the best gaming villains in history, tickles me a LITTLE bit more than 2 does. Were almost 3 years in and I am still in the honeymoon phase of this game, so I am going to be biased. I am sorry. With Borderlands 3, I am not traveling across giant mounds of trash in Pandora, mowing down mindless bugs, psychos and marauders for fun and hopefully good drops... I have to sit through unskippable cutscenes, boring pre-sequel-tier dialogue that gets worse after the 4th time you hear it. A lot of guns are useless and just look flashy and dont often function as good weapons, annointed enemies being scuffed badass 'Eternals' from Vorago Solitude. Annointed weapons, Mayhem mode not being properly balanced becuase of Artificial Scaling Mechanics. Customizing your character is now filled with Zoomer-normie skins that break immersion. The Vault bosses were, again, worse than the Pre-sequel. The gameplay is hard to learn, hard to REMEMBER, and the game is DESIGNED around those mechanics. Eden 6 is one of the best parts of 3, and the dialogue fight between Balex and GenVIV was good, but I STILL prefer Bosun and Skipper with the Drakensburg. The level of fustration I have with this game is unrealistic. I cannot play this game becuase of this wall of text. With Borderlands 4, what can they do? All possible storylines sound very mediocre when compared to 3 2 and TPS. New Tales indirectly confirmed that they continue to use the abysmal art style and story. The gameplay is going to be more heavy-handed, so what do i have to look forward to in this franchise as a casual player? I havnt completely abandoned all hope like some have, I still want a good Borderlands game. But I am not rushing to buy it. Thanks for uhm...reading my rant, I only ever write comments this long and detailed about Borderlands.

Hey buddy, loved the Neir vid, any chance you could do a Complete, Unabdridged Timeline for the Diablo games?