He should say...”if you’re insecure and you care what other people think about more than sound , playability and value, don’t play a Sire.” I’ve been playing a Sire almost exclusively for 4 years and I still get constant compliments.

I’ve played a first gen V7 for about three years as my main instrument and have had no problems. I’ve been an active bassist for 25 years, owned lots of instruments and the Sire is easily the best Jazz bass I’ve owned.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a great bass man, especially for the money 💰

@jewdproductionmainemanvide9913

3 жыл бұрын

Str8 up I had mind 3 years to every practice and gig Don’t know what this cat talking bout

@longdongbongchong

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, you you think it is the best jazz bass you've had in 25 years of playing, you probably also think that McDonald's serves gourmet hamburgers. Some people like prime steak, others are OK with hamburger.

@Zaul2410

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, us bass players needed this brand a looong time ago

@TheAnimo92

Жыл бұрын

@@longdongbongchong do you also think that the best food are being served in a prime restaurant?

0:35 One - the battery plastic cover 1:18 Two - a budget bass stigma 1:46 Three - the pots 2:27 Four - 18v pre-amp / EQ 3:19 Five - a cheap bass stigmatization part 2

According to Marcus Miller, the Sire basses were designed to be excellent, full-featured instruments available at a cost reachable by beginners. I think they definitely achieved that goal.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

100% I think they exceeded that goal!

@mrbungle7586

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Also I don't think MM promotes these basses purely for the money. His reputation is on there too. He said when approached about making a signature range etc, they had to build one that he was happy to put his name on. That took several prototypes to achieve and as you mention, your getting a lot of bass at lower a price. Cheers

@marklowe7431

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahah only prob is it backfired and so many pro bass players use them too. What's not to like?

@mrbungle7586

3 жыл бұрын

@@marklowe7431 yeah agree, their great especially at the price point. I have a 2004 Fender MM and Sire M7. The Sire isn't up to the Fender, but isn't far behind though.

@dr.cheeks3589

Жыл бұрын

@@mrbungle7586 Really? I want to buy one because are a little cheaper than a Mexican Fender and some people said that are really begginer friendly

Skill will never be a stigma .. what ever is in your hands, play the shit out of it.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@dannynicholson6195

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@leoneddy1492

2 жыл бұрын

I like this statement

@73BFD

Жыл бұрын

Best comment.

@KW-qh1pd

7 ай бұрын

🎯🎯🎯

I just got a 2nd gen p7 5 string and I absolutely love it! I have a $2,000 strat with upgraded pickups and a $3,000 7 string kiesel and I needed a bass for the album I'm working on. I knew this was a budget bass, but man was I blown away by how good it feels and sounds. Feels like a professional bass. I don't know TOO much about basses, but I know quality when I feel and hear it!

Was thinking about getting a V7 Gen 2 when I found your video. Thanks man, now I'm even more determined to get one!

@The_official_c

Жыл бұрын

You should!

Awesome review. I absolutely agree, I've got one Sire too. As for its price range it is definitely a budget bass. But tonewise is much better everybody might expect initially. All the best!

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed Adam, super impressed with these basses and because of the sound and value for money they now sit in a weird middle ground that means they get compared to much more expensive instruments

Yo, good vid. Though for #4, I hope that you understand that the sole reason why this is such a beastly pre-amp is because it runs off of 18v instead of casual 9v, which makes a huge difference on the sound and the ability to produce a wider EQ range which Sire is famous for. I know it's still a pain and more expensive to replace 2 of them, but I change my only every 6 months and I play multiple times a week at gigs and practices.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏾 it’s a fair comment and it’s why I still play the bass a LOT, it’s a minor gripe but annoying none the less

@danroberts3585

Жыл бұрын

I saw on another review that the 18 volt circuit makes battery changes less frequent.

Love the way you did this video. Also the you're doing it after actually playing for a while. Dude the 18v preamp in terms of what it's doing sound wise is grand. It's a really good thing. I have a US Fender 75 J bass with a 2 band bart and the Sire will have better electronics. I've had my US Laklands, Sadowsky and numerous US Fenders and at the end of the day the Sires hold up. I think it would be fair to say that as well as the beginner market they also cater extremely well in the working players market. Sire and Marcus grossly underestimated how good they have turned out.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

100% don't get me wrong, this is a seriously good bit of gear and the bass I'll take to most gigs 🙌

Thank you for the honest video! Learned a lot.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

You’re most welcome Tyler! Let me know what other topics you’d want to see

All your points are valid. I own a first gen P7 5, and I could see that it was not going to be a Fender or G&L in the steez and bells n whistles initially... But the build quality is on point so I used it as a template to customize. $650 for the bass, $750 in upgrades, and its now my dream Pbass variant.

@dialect64

Жыл бұрын

right after I posted this comment, the precision pickup died... 😐 Dropped a Nordstrand in there and loving it! Not an upgrade/fix I planned on, however.

Where can I find the background track playing in the beginning?

With 18 volts, the preamp has a better signal to noise ratio. Essentially, there will be less distortion (noise) when boosting the signal of your treble, mid and/or bass knobs. That being said, most players will not hear the difference.

I see Sire basses with 2 battery spots and newer with only 1 battery spot. Does that make any difference?

Are you sure the bass does not work with only one battery? worth checking before regarding that as a problem.

I have a 4 string V7 2nd gen Sire and i love it, it's so smooth and the pre-amp is a beast! A little bit heavy tho, but they're amazing!

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was surprised at how easy it was to get a great tone!

Really enjoyed your review! Thanks dude

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you John 🙏🏾🙏🏾

Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts, there is a lot of hype on these bass's and it's good to hear what the downside is from someone that has routinely played one. I play both lead and bass, one area I would respectfully sort of agree but also disagree with you is the perceived stigma of Sire being a budget brand - Personally I would not make any negative judgements on a bass player turning up to an audition with this bass (if you are working with musicians that judge you on your bass rather than your bass playing it's time to find another band😀) Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I have a V7 on order and I'm looking forward to playing it

Hello! Should I go for the Fender mexican deluxe 5 string or the sire one? Which one is better in terms of build quality and tone wise? Please help!

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Try it out and see how you feel! I’ve owned both and unplugged I preferred the fender but when plugged in the Sire came through 💪🏾 Bare in mind the fender will probably set you back a couple hundred more at least but you’ll never have a problem turning up to a mainstream gig audition with a fender 🤷🏾‍♂️ For 95% of people I’d say the Sire probably wins if you have £400-£600 top budget Second hand v7 are floating between £250-£400 from what I’m seeing I might do a video on best basses I can find for a particular price range

Is the string spacing on the V7 5 string comfortable, in your opinion? I prefer wider (19mm) string spacing on a 5, and it's 18mm on the Sire.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

It’s comfortable for me! I think if you know you prefer 19mm spacing and you get anything that’s not, you’re definitely going to feel like something's “not right” Try one out when you get the chance, play it both unplugged and plugged in so you get the real feel of the instrument 👊🏾👊🏾

Nice. I see a lot of comments saying those points you put are over reacting etc. But the fact that if those are the biggest negatives about the bass, then I'm on my way to buy one, knowing the sound and quality are all great :)

Definitely the tuners! And the tone pot/ volume knob arrangement. Still love mine for the money mind- great basses for real world use.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

My timers have actually been okay, I love the pre amp but I guess the materials there were one area they saved money as it’s fragile

@ericward8010

4 жыл бұрын

Once I borrowed an OLP Musicman when my main bass was getting repaired. While the band took a break, that borrowed bass took a fall and one of the tuners shattered- same one's as Sire uses. Replacing those is on my to-do list.

Great reviw I also sold my fender deluxe made in Mexico to get the v7

The reason I've been looking around youtube to find some reviews on the Marcus Miller Sire Basses,is,that I'm planing to purchase a Sire 5string bass.Well,I think I'm convinced now.Time to save up some dosh and get me one.

I have a sire bass p7 2nd gen 5 string , I just bought it a couple days ago and am in love with it , before I was playing a fender jazz bass and I can honestly say the sire bass is amazing , it’s sounds incredible and for the price I paid it’s unbelievable

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

they wipe the floor with any mexican fender I've ever played

I picked up my first Sire a few days ago and gigged last night with it. Absolute great bass, I have and still own o number of "high" end basses. This is comparable, to high end, I agree with your statement of "budget bass stigma," , as I felt the same way until getting my V7 v2 5 string Marcus Miller

@rickwheeler6811

3 жыл бұрын

where is the BEST THING ABOUT SIRE bass video?

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

You’re 100% right, need to do the follow up video 🙌🏾👏🏾

3 years after you released this and I think the reputation thing is even less an issue. They are standing the test of time and releasing new models all the time. Thanks for the vid! How is the weight of the instrument btw compared to say, a Fender active Jazz V?

@The_official_c

5 ай бұрын

Agreed! the Sires are killer basses man. If I'm being honest I didn't notice a difference in weight, but I was also never looking for it. I've always played relatively heavy basses.

Thanks for your video. Do you know if the piece cover battery have replacement??

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

As far as I’m aware you can’t buy the parts directly from Sire but you’d have to email to contact their team first. Many people say that a lot of the 9v battery cover replacement for active bass and guitars fit so I’d do that. Costs about £2/3

@alexanderd.romero5157

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c Thanks a lot

Sire vs Yamaha BB735, which is better?

I play out 4X each month. I alternate between a Sire V7 2nd gen alder body 4 string and a Fender American Professional Series Ii Precision bass 4 string. My band members couldn't care less which bass I use. The approximate 300 people in the audience have no clue about my guitars other than the Sire is a sunburst and the Fender is Olympic white. The bottom line is I know how to play very good and that is all anybody notices or cares about.

@The_official_c

2 жыл бұрын

Likewise! The sires are great basses and I still run mine to this day 🔥

5 reasons: a 5:55 video Nice timing ma dude

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

I wish I could say it was intentional

@nickdimitrievski3392

4 жыл бұрын

and 5 strings!

@juanjreyes4230

4 жыл бұрын

@@nickdimitrievski3392 So that makes 5 number 5s

As a guitar player I bought one of these and I love it. So versatile in Studio

@The_official_c

Жыл бұрын

They sound amazing!

You are definitely correct about people for studio sessions or something, wanting to see a good ol passive P or Jazz

@laurencecousins7727

Жыл бұрын

According to Marcus, who has been one of the top first xall studio bassists, says the engineers prefer the Sire

@bassimprovjams3772

Жыл бұрын

@@laurencecousins7727 well of course he would say that, I’m sure they don’t care what brand it is, they just want a good Jazz Or P bass they don’t care if it’s fender, sire, lakland, etc…

So the 1st generation has a 18v 2 batteries and the 2nd gen has only one 9v battery?

Good summary of how these basses fare over time (and of course the video itself is a few years old now). I purchased a P8 recently and initially loved it… until it cut out on stage. _Not_ because the batteries died - I was already playing in passive mode - but because of a bad terminal pin contact inside the jack. Sire uses a weird jack housing I've never seen before, but the pin itself is really thin metal and bends easily… to the point that it doesn't make proper contact with the plug on the cable. I could replace the jack, but… I shouldn't have to do that on a nearly new instrument! It's extremely disappointing because I love (almost) everything else about it. You hit on the other main annoyance I have - how tall the stacked pots are.

So basically it’s awesome but not a name brand haha How often do you think the brand on your guitar will affect you getting gigs? I played for years on an Epiphone LP and didn’t have any issues but I wasn’t playing super fancy gigs. Now I’m trying to choose between a passive Fender J5 and the active Sire V7(5string). I feel like I get way more bang for my buck with the Sire.

Your 2 & 5 are bull bro. If you show up with a Sire AND YIU CAN PLAY AND IT SOUNDS GOOD you're golden bro.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Usually that’s the case but it definitely depends on the gig my man. I use my Sire for TV work but first impressions count and some fixers, MDs and artist management only want to see a 4 string P bass or a fender logo on the headstock. If they don’t like or recognise what gear you have they might already be critical before you play a note. My mentor told me this (plays for Dire Straits, Nik Kershaw, Mary J Blige at a point and more) and I’ve found it to be true Does it mean you can’t get a gig with a Sire? Of course not, I got my TV work with a Sire. Does it mean that you could give yourself a disadvantage by turning up with one? Very possibly, depending on who’s involved, especially if it’s a mainstream pop gig It can get as superficial as “do you have a black bass?” The gear you bring sets the tone for the people auditioning you. It can effect how seriously they take you. And in the UK there’s only a handful of people who can put you on a big gig if you weren’t already playing for the artist (and you could be dropped when the artist gets signed if they want to use an in house MD & team) So making the right first impression for the gig you are going for is important and gear is one of the aspects that will set that first impression as you walk through the door.

@Terrible_Peril

4 жыл бұрын

Caleb Wilson totally agree. It sucks, but it’s very much a thing. And it’s not just with high visibility like tv work. Sooooo many session engineers, producers etc will REALLY appreciate if you show up with a Fender P. Words to live by if you want to work in large swaths of the industry: “a Fender Precision isn’t always the right choice, but a Fender Precision is never the wrong choice.” So no matter what, if I’m playing a show or laying tracks for pre-pro or anything, I’ve got a passive bass with a split coil pickup, strung with flats (and usually another with rounds) within arms reach, and at least 70% of the time, it’s what ends up being used in final recordings. Luckily, I’ve fallen in love with that vintage vibe and tone over time. Doesn’t mean I’m shelling out twice the cost of my car for a 64 P, but I have instruments that are like quirky versions of classics. Cheers!

@facedowngaming

4 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c 100% agreed. I got turned down to perform a late night show with this upcoming pop artist when I showed up with a headless bass. Quite odd too since she was releasing a very 80's sounding single but I get it. Live and learn when I bought a Fender P and J bass after that, hoping to land another opportunity soon...

@Terrible_Peril

4 жыл бұрын

Lavalval Dragon where you living/working? East or West coast?

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

@@facedowngaming sometimes it really is like that!

True on pop gigs they do use Precision and Jazz basses, but haven't heard of too many Sire basses.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly it really depends on the gig sometimes!

The Sires remind me of the Peavy Cirrus when they first came out. I missed out on the Peavey Cirrus, but I won't miss out on the Sire V7.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

100% Alex, I'd love me an American peavy Cirrus!

I have a 1st Gen V7. Probably got the1st Gen V7 bass number 12 hot off the press. Not really I'm just making a number, but I am one of the early V7 holders of this bass. I love this bass, and from day 1 of me having it, it's my main bass I play. My other arsenal of basses are Sire 2nd Gen P7, Fender jazz MIM, Sadowsky Metro. I did have an issue with my battery compartment and it was replaced immediately. Other than that no major issues.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Really great basses man! I sold my MIM jazz v deluxe after I got the Sire, of course my Mayones plays better but there are many times I’ll choose the Sire over it for gigs or recording Oh and the Mayones was at least 5 times more expensive 😅

@plookie9

4 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c Mayones have great basses. My three other basses gets some recordings time, but the V7 out ranks them. I love my B string on my MIM.

How hard is the neck dive? I also read that it is heavy

@The_official_c

2 жыл бұрын

I rarely suffer too much with neck dive because I like to angle my neck higher

@marcusstrymon693

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c I think I am gonna get a player series plus p bass from fender... I just like well made, beautiful and solid instrumenst and I think that this is just a very solid way to go. Not to say Sire is bad but I really couldnt live with neckdive and the eqing on the sire is too much, as I have a board with a lot of eq especially for midrange

Really tempted but the harley benton is half the price and it's about the same price as a squire, any advice between the 3?

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Sire without a doubt, if you're budget can't stretch to the v7, the v3 sounds great but if you can afford it then get the v7!

@pads-zr9ln

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c cheers, import fees and tax added nearly 50% to my order for the harley benton, lesson learnt

I have the first Gen had it when first came out, I use it over all my high end boutique basses, it's the only bass I have that has not been upgraded with electronics, I did get the chrome knobs from Sire because I wanted that look . If you change the black knobs you must be very very careful because you can damage the pots.

@The_official_c

2 жыл бұрын

🙌🏾🙌🏾

Youre absolutely right. I own one for more then a year, the 2nd gen however. My pots are bent and have lost their detents and i agree with the rest. They sound great though and the active cirquit of the preamp improves the sound like i never heard on a preamp before. The wood, and finish are of high standard too. Just the hardware is a bit crappy. And yeah ,it def. has that cheap bass stigma to it and youre better off showing up with a fender to an audition.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

The second gen had corrected a couple of these things but like you say, it’s definitely the easiest bass I’ve played to get the sound I want out of! There are just some types of gigs where it may not be the best choice to turn up with. Having said that I think that’s changing and it looks like that’s what Sire is trying to push for with their marketing 🤙🏾

Thanks for the great content.

Why do you have your TC RH450 (or RH750 on a shelf)? That's one of the sweetest bass amps made in the past 30 years! I own two RH450s (for reasons).

Great vid. very practical.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave 🙏🏾

I have 2 V7s and 1 V3…checking out a P5R now. Marcus signed one of my basses so it stays at home!

I ended up selling mine after 2 years : great sounding pickups but crappy fretwork with annoying high action, really too heavy, battery consuming preamp. Now l play passive squier basses and l'm happy with them😉

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like your new bass! Every instrument is different even if it’s the same model, my action was fine but with a couple tweaks it was great! I actually traded a squier vm precision 5 string for my sire with a friend of mine so I went the other way (I couldn’t work with a passive 5 string p bass, there was near no point in having the low b on it) A tasty P bass is definitely next on the list for me 🤙🏾

@richardrichard5409

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, can't beat passive and Squiers are still best quality bang per buck😎

I owned a Sire V7 5 string. In general, it is a very good bass. To nitpick, my V7 weighed 10 3/4 lbs. I did not like the 7 knobs which made it difficult to change tones without fiddling around between songs on a live gig. I went back to my USA Stingray 5 which has a 5 way pickup selector switch. Battery covers will not break if you know how to open it properly.

I visited Sadowsky in NYC, got a quote of $5500 for what I liked. And I had the $$ to get the build started. But I returned to my hotel, and placed an order for my Gen 1 V7. It took about 3 or 4 weeks to arrive, but the sound of that bass was superb. Unfortunately it was destroyed in a terrible car accident (car rolled 3x after a rear-ender on freeway). I got my Gen 2 and while it is a little heavier I love it- and at least the battery cover won't break. I'm 69 years old, and I've been playing 52 years. And while I'm not the best, the best know me.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

that's great sir, I solute you! 🙌 they really are fantastic for the money!

I’m trying to finally fulfil my old dream of playing the bass and I’ve honestly fallen head over heels for the Marcus Miller V7, now I just need to find all the other suff I’ll need (I’ve only had acoustic guitars up until now and I’m mostly self taught)

@The_official_c

Ай бұрын

You’ve got this! You can get by with most things with the HX stomp as a stand alone pedal. I prefer practicing through a small amp but honestly if I’m tight for space/weight and travelling then the hx stomp is all I NEED

@krisbang2382

Ай бұрын

@@The_official_coh thank you then, I appreciate the advice 😊

I own 3 of these basses. I agree with you on the battery covers. I replaced the battery covers on my gen 1 V7 with plastic covers for under $10 with ones I got on Amazon, and they've held up. I also agree with you on the height of the pots. Lower profile dual concentric pots are made, and Sire could probably shorten them. As for the "stigma" of playing a Sire, I've never had anyone complain, and if it's that important to someone that you're playing a pricier bass than I'd say they're the problem not you and your Sire. Who cares? I'm only concerned with sound, playability, and durability over time. I do over 100 shows a year and my Sires have held up fine. The only thing I will add to your list of complaints is the input jack and wiring is cheap and dodgy, and will need to be replaced or rewired over time.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Great comments 🙌🏾 I still use my Sire for various BBC work but there are just some auditions where you’ll make a better first impression with a fender 😅

@1unclelewie

Жыл бұрын

I just noticed one of mine broke. I will try to find ind on Amazon as well. Thanks, and take care.

@stephenhookings1985

7 ай бұрын

My input jack on M2 became intermittent. I wrote to Thomann. It was tricky for them to get me a spare. I realise I could bend the internal jack and it was back to new again. I guess eventually it will fail.

Marcus Miller - is famous - so when you see that on stage - people see Miller, not Sire. Producers know they are great - and not THAT cheap ($700 to$1400), so feel free to show up with this. Better than Fender.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Don't get me wrong, I do love this bass and it gets most of the play time and gigs but there are situations where I'd be better off turning up with a Fender - even though I prefer to play the Sire 🙌

@kameronpeterson3601

3 жыл бұрын

The cheapest marcus miller sire is the v3 at $369

@MacReviewzOnline

3 жыл бұрын

@@kameronpeterson3601 Yeap all the way to 1600, which is like 4K in Fender terms , haha.

If you buy one of these be prepared to start repairing and replacing parts. I got my V10 DX in January and I'm already working on a second replacement part. Great sounding basses but definitely not boutique build quality. Waiting for sweetwater to send me a new battery compartment with wiring.

The only complaint I have about the controls is that the top of the stacked pots are too high which would cause them to easily get bent. And regarding the 18-volt system, the double voltage allows for more preamp headroom. The S3 has the four screw plate for the batteries as opposed to the plastic 9-volt door design,(which I hate by the way). If you think about it from a budget standpoint, you are really getting a lot of bass for the money. I'll take a SIRE 3 over a Fender anyday.

I have a G&L 2000 Tribute, I would like a Jazzbase (Type) (agein) Thinking about Marcus Miller V3 TS 2nd Gen, please edvice?

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

What’s your budget?

@LeifPalmin

4 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c Would be nice to be able to be around $300, if the differens in what I get is realy big, I could wait a bit and go up to $500, but around that is max (I'm only a hobby player). You know anything I chould look into?

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

honestly, at around 300, you can't regret getting a V3. If you recorded a v3 and a v7 and asked people to tell them apart, most people would struggle! I actually accidentally picked up a v3 in Andertons and thought the price tag was for a second hand v7 Having said that I do notice a difference in hardware quality & I prefer maple fretboards so I'd pay the extra for a v7. The v7 does feel more substantial in my hands but 1. I don't think anyone will notice the difference in sound when you're playing 2. It will blow any other bass at that price point out of the water IMO

@gregmullins441mullins6

4 жыл бұрын

love them i'm a pro player from the N.Y.C .THEY SOUND GREAT AND I HAVE A FIRST GEN I'VE BEEN ON BIG TOURS AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS.You have to take care of your bass if your a guy that beats your bass up it's not gonna last.Been in the studio with it it's killer the video is wack great bass for the money.And the second gens are a beast.Go and get one you'll be more than happy.

@gregmullins441mullins6

4 жыл бұрын

You can get a v3 u5 a m2 how much money do you have?It's the same preamp in all the basses you cant go wrong ,many pro players are using them.WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU.

got my v7 i think 2 years ago online after some research. had a minor problem with a pot causing some static. returned it to Thomann and they replaced the while preamp, no issue since then. Yeah it has some minor imperfections but hey, stringthough body, versatile, was within my budget (i do this for hobby, not a gigging musician). If i had to nitpick something that is the gloss neck, since i prefer a satin finished or unfinished neck. got my eye on the upcoming U% shortscale pj one for the future, don;t own a p bass and a shorscale seems appealing. waiting for reviews 1st

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

That’s good that they fixed it for you! You have to email Sire directly to get any replacement parts as far as I’m aware. The short scale will be interesting too. I’m trying to get my hands on a couple of the new ones for a video so watch this space 👀🔥

Bro, can you please explain the pickups because it is confusing.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

So the stacked dials on the active pre amp (the controls on the side) are a little weak and mine have bent. Also the black plastic actually cracked on one of my pots which I’ve never had happen to me on a bass before

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

I hope that helps

Dead on. I have a v1 now with a broken battery cover and with the bendy pots as well. I bought a soft case and it would have benefitted from a hard case.

Am i the only one who thought gettin a bass review with young Tupac before putting on my glasses? 😂 Thanks for the review. I want to know the downsides of an instrument as well...so i can decide if they are a problem for me. 😁👍

Clear enough to me. The pots would get me down if they didn’t stand up to the road. Seems they’re not the best way to impress, but probably excellent studio basses. I really do think that if you own a P and / or J Bass, you can’t go wrong.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

At its price tag, It’s definitely a great buy!

I have V7 1rst Gen. consumes bit Quickly the 2 batteries and the plástic covers is cheap detail but no big deal to me , rest is prefect, amazing bases

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Really good basses man, I’m glad you enjoy it!

The only problem I've had with mine is the volume pot being too loose and I have turned in down to zero a couple of times when I've been playing. However a very small blob of blu-tak has fixed it!!!!!! However I have the five string version and it's my go to gigging bass even over my American standard fender jazz, although it could be lighter!!

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t complain about the sound on these at all 🙌🏾

I had choice between Marcus Miller fender made in japan vintage or sire v7 I got Fender because neck and wood body Are very good facture no bad surprise in Time

I rock a P7 5 string for reggae/dub. Can get pretty heavy with the preamp mode. I record with it and it sounds nice to me

@The_official_c

Жыл бұрын

They are great basses!

Good Review. I own an M2. Same complaints. cheap pots, bad battery covers. That said, I LOVE the Bass!

Play the instrument you are happy with and screw the short-sighted! Sound engineers love Precisions for example but YOU are the player - don't be bullied. If a Fender-style set up isn't you, don't waste your time. Find an instrument you like and love it to death - your sound will come. The rest is cosmetics.

@stevenlee7183

2 жыл бұрын

Massively agree with you pal. My main gig bass is a 2015 Gibson Thunderbird, I had tried numerous thunderbirds in the past and hated all of them, any of the jazz style basses I was looking at at the time just didn't sound or feel right. That one did, everything felt exactly how I wanted it. At the same time one of my favourite bass guitars I have played this year was this 30 Yamaha SA75 when we did a retro gear set in my gear guys shop. Almost bought that cheap ass vintage bass there and then because it sounded so good and felt so nice to play.

Reason 3 isn't Sire's fault! I currently have 2, 2nd gen V7 and P7. I've owned a 1st gen V7 and an M3. They retired my Fender MIJ Jazz from gigging. Had that from new (1992). That's now strung with flats and on and used for recording.

I'm really love my first Gen Sire V7 bass with Marcus's signature.But the most reason bother me that the bass is really heavy.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

That’s great man, I’m used to heavy basses so I don’t really notice it! They sound great though 🙌🏾

3 years with my v7, battery cover and pots still perfect

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear 🙌🏾

@ricpan

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c I first took out the foam rubber under the batteries ... that might have saved the cover from breaking :)

@Zaul2410

3 жыл бұрын

they are pretty fragile though, if u tent to be wreckless as I am, they will break eventually, it's nothing that a couple drops of super glue won't do the job

@ricpan

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Zaul2410 That's probably why they've changed it in the 2nd gen basses ... but screwed battery covers suck

@Zaul2410

3 жыл бұрын

@@ricpan yeah it's a drag to Carry on a screwdriver just in case the batteries die

I baught a Mexican fender jp with preamp that I really liked , 2 days later I ordered a sire p7 because ya can't find one to try out in stores , after playing the sire I returned the fender , I feel like I got way more guitar for a less $, budget bass yes but bang for buck is way better for the money it feels and sounds amazing.. I will admit though I don't care for the head stock shape but I enjoy it enough to never mind that lol

@The_official_c

2 жыл бұрын

I should really add one of the sire P basses to my collection 🙌🏾

@sonicgauge1

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_official_c , curiouse, ive noticed my p7 doesn't have much sustain anywhere on the B string, especially compared to EADG strings, everywhere is 6+ or more seconds but the B is like 3 seconds if lucky I some spots. Is yours like that???

Yes the 2 x 9v battery is a pain for sure, but maybe you like that preamp because it runs in 18v, more headroom, and other than putting a rechargeable lion battery in it I don't think there's a ways to get around the 2 x 9v batteries I'm looking at buying one of these the M3 actually, just at home for my song making (i'm a guitarist) and i'm liking the offering especially as i would buy it second hand for 230 euros (and yes with fucked up battery compartments lol)

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

aha for sure the 18v helps with the sound! it's a pro and a con for me

how much Fender did paid for this video?

Excellent. Thanks

yes i have a v2 and already change knobs /pots and going to get rid of pre amp ,,.,., but it is my fav bass

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Great basses for the money 🙌🏾

Sir 18V - System requires two batteries?!

@eliezerjk90

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It's a powerful pre amp system though.

It’s hard for a two thousand dollar Fender Jazz bass to beat a seven hundred dollar Sire Marcus Miller V7 or P7 in tones, I will take my Sire to the biggest gigs ever and be proud to play it because I know it’s giving me the tones I want and need. Keep tucking yours away if you want, I’m laying mine in the case and heading for the next gig proudly. 😎😎😎😎

Love my Sire V7 5-String but the biggest downside for me is that they are freakin' neck heavy. I played a PRS SE Kestrel before and that one was perfectly balanced and I really miss that - BUT it doesn't do what the Sire does, so the Sire wins in the end.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of people have commented on its neck-heaviness!

@ricardojmestre

Жыл бұрын

Same here, with a V3 5-strings and it is an anchor

I get what you mean about the stigma of the name. But, I'm a drummer of 30 years and new to bass. I've bought a Sire V3 Gen 2, and I love it. But back to the drums. I bought a Mapex kit as my first kit in 1992, which was an unknown brand, but is now recognised. So I'm not worried about stigma

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

They’re great basses, I use my Sire v7 on a TV show - I’d make a better first impression bringing a Fender to a commercial audition though

Every active bass should have a passive switch. imo. 1 If batteries are dead it will still work 2 It can also be a great sound in it`s own.

How heavy are they??

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t know off the top of my head but I’ve always played 5 strings so it’s not overly heavy for a 5 string I’ve never thought this bass stood out as heavy Having said that, I have had sessions where we have been filming for tv and I’ve had to stand with the bass on for literally hours each day because I was in the scenes, for a couple of weeks and had a physio session after (that would have happened with a p bass too)

I Got my 2004 MIM Fender IV string stolen at the end of 2018, got to LA and I Second hand purchased a SIRE V7 V String 1st Gen, It's been with me ever since as my main axe and as much as I Love Fender, this one serves the purpose of a Working bass pretty well, just to add something to this review, this bass specially the 5 string one, tent to be quite Heavy so bear that in mind when you get one, apart from this its really a cheap, cool affordable and nice bass to work with, and you won't need no fender at all enjoy it If you have it!

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Man, stolen gear is the worst! I've always played heavy basses so I didn't notice the weight difference but I've done a set of filming gigs that required standing around 4-5 hours a day with the bass on my neck for 2 weeks and needed physio after!

I own 2 fender Elites which are amazing. Of course the Sire isn’t a Fender Elite but I don’t think anyone thinks of Sire basses as budget basses. I’ve seen pro bassists gigging these basses with major artists. I when I walk into a gig every musician either already knows how well they sound or want to know. But it’s never looked down on. But I do agree about the battery covers. But I bought replacements on amazon for $5 so it’s not an issue.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Certainly not bassists, I think they are becoming a lot more respected - it really depends who you’re working with That’s my experience, there are just some auditions where it would be better to turn up with a fender. I have bassist friends here in the UK who would argue either side of the coin

my only major problem is that i don't like the neck on sire V7 5 string 1rst gen. for me it's too big and too glossy. after 30 min of playing it just become uncomfortable.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

I prefer larger necks as they feel more comfortable for me! It is a bit over glossy for my liking too but i can overlook this As I’ve said, great basses and currently unbeatable for the money brand new, but as the prices are beginning to creep up, it has new competition and Sire will have to deal with that Would I choose Sire over Squier Classic vibes or vintage modified? Absolutely Over a Mexican made fender, yeah But when the Sires cross that 6/700 price range you’re now throwing laklands and G&L into the mix 📝

@robwiersma7133

3 жыл бұрын

I have sanded /pollished the neck with an old peace of scotch brite. And that made a huge difference

The extra battery is suppose to make the electronic extra buzz fre and quite.

The errors of gen1 are fixed with gen2! Still goor video!

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I might pick up a 2nd gen myself!

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Yessir! Might pick up a 2nd gen myself 🤙🏾

Hi, im agree for the battery cover, maybe (now if i watch it better) also the master volume pot but very little bit but still works and, for me, the weigth. I think there is some kilos more than fender standard jazz. I speak about 1st gen V7 4 string, with same wood of your, ( buyed in 2016) but i love this. Really. Was love at first sight. I think also its normal for the 1st generation bases and, maybe, this defects can be his attribute like the ancient fender jazz generation that i think has had other problem but, now, are the most famous basses in the world. Hugs to everyone :) p.s. now, for the 18V preamp, im using recharging 9V battery. I think this is a good way for our pain ;)

@The_official_c

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, rechargeable 9vs are a win 🏆 a lot of people find these quite heavy

Only thing that bugs me about my Sire bass is that it is heavy, 5kg. Other, then that, fantastic bass.

Great video man keep it up but disagree w/ #2 "people think you have a cheap bass" so?? Lol if it feels great and sounds great why does it matter? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to say i own a "Fender" strat, but I also own a "Squire" classic vibe that plays and sounds great too and I'll play either depending on what i want out of the guitar.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

100%, for the record - I gig the sire far more than any bass but there are some cases where turning up with a Fender CAN leave abetter first impression

I'm about to sell a MIM fender Jazz Deluxe 5 that I never use and buy a 4 string Sire. Either V5 for that lovely roasted neck, or V7 if I can't live without that active EQ. Already have a SR Premium Bass with a good active Eq so already have that base covered.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Go for the v7, one of the best sounding and easily useable preamps for sure

@alfieharries

3 жыл бұрын

Can confirm, the preamp is the main strength of the sires. You wouldnt end up paying much less for a preamp of this quality on its own

Just found out about this. I'm originally a jazz bassist but now I play in a punk band. The only stigma I would get is that my bass looks too expensive lmao.

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Ahaha brilliant 😂😂 🙌🏾

@robwiersma7133

3 жыл бұрын

I played many basses over the years , from Fenders to Musicmans to exotic basses , mostly in the € 1000- € 3000 range always let them be serviced at the shop as they were too expensive to do it myself ( i thought) One day had to sell my basses due some financial problems so i had to start from scratch again. I got a second hand Sire MM v3 1st gen 5 string for like €125 i had to give it a new set of strings and a good setup, sanded /polished the neck and side of the fretboard and it turned out to be one of the best basses i have owned , now added a v7 5 string 1st gen Which is an upgrade on the v3 so i have 2 basses for on the road. If people crying about playing big stages with a sire and callin this a budget” bass and feeling a bit ashamed of it are imo quite narrow minded . With a few adjustments and tweaking here and there these basses are absolutely high-end level! 1thing is true dough , a few really early 1st gen basses had a weak preamp and electronics . Something to check if you want to buy an 1st gen .

Fact is, you pay a premium for a fender logo on your bass. I sold my fender J and bought 2 Sires with the money. I have a V3 5 and a V7 4 fretless. Both kill it.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

100%

It is a good bass but the battery covers on the newer Sire basses are better than the older generation. I love the sound it just sounds clear I own a Sire bass and it is the best bass next to my Lakland bass. The sound of the preamp is nice. Stay safe and God bless.

@The_official_c

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the gen 2 sires have sorted that! They really do sound top notch, can’t fault that at all! Love Laklands 🔥 Stay blessed 🙏🏾

Unrelated question ... but how the hell do you make coffee in a drip coffee maker whose lid is like less than a centimeter under the shelf? That's got to be a proper pain in the ass.

@The_official_c

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 this one is in storage

you forgot to mention that the neck of this bass lives his own life, I always put the same strings the same way but each time I have to readjust the trussrod a little bit, otherwise I don't think they suffer that much from being "cheap" I see a lot of people gigging with sire ,even v3 sometimes

@The_official_c

Жыл бұрын

The sires have proved their worth for sure!

A friend of mine saw MM in concert and he was playing a Fender ???????

Subscribed!

@The_official_c

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the family 🙌🏾

I'm disappointed with the cheap cover and the fact that it needs 2 9V batteries. Why 2?