1.1 Problem with wire (curve) inside the stem. 1.2 Wire problem (dangling in the housing clamp where the stabilizer wire bends). 2. Keycap problem (curve) 3. Switch problem (curve) 4. Stabilizer lubrication problem. 5. The problem of the plate (yes, it may have a bend, which will cause tension) 6. Problem with the PCB board (yes, it can also be crooked and this will cause tension)

Yep, blu-tac is definitely my favourite spacebar mod. I was wondering why I’d never heard a youtuber recommend it before now!

I love the Ghostbar. It makes the sound more muted but also sounds a lot more solid and deep pitched. I ended up putting a Ghostbar on all my keyboards

I really liked the Ghostbar on my Halo65, so I got another one for my Keychron K6 Pro... and was immediately disappointed. I didn't realize it at the time, but one of the reasons for the improved sound dampening was the inclusion of these silicone strips attached to the board, and without them the Ghostbar's sound profile is more or less the same as any generic PBT spacebar. I did some testing with other spacebars and came to the conclusion that the Ghostbar and silicone inserts, used in conjunction, are what facilitate the vastly improved sound profile found on the Halo65. Not sure why they're not included with the spacebar itself, and of course they don't appear to be sold separately anywhere. I've tried looking for them, but the closest I've found are made from rubber (KPREPUBLIC Spacebar Plate Rubber Strip). Maybe those would work, but I haven't gotten the chance to test it yet. It's just such a let down though, since after using the Ghostbar on the Halo65, every other spacebar that I use just sounds wrong in comparison.

The sinister intro was very well done, great music choice throughout also :)

@CheeseTurbulence

Ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙏 🙂

Just started using my qk75 again after daily driving my bauer lite. Just realized the spacebar is super pingy so this is perfect timing! About a year or so ago you got me into keyboards and I have built 6 so far. 2 for me and 4 for my friends. Thanks again :)

@merrickx

4 ай бұрын

Bauer's are shipping?!

@Rcmathis

4 ай бұрын

Bauer Lite yup! I think they just did a restock and it might still be going on :)

love this video, really enjoyed all the sound tests and experimentation, thanks for all your time on this! One item I’d call out that I don’t believe was explicitly mentioned was the impact of warped spacebars or bent wires. If you get a bent spacebar, there’s not a whole heck of a lot you can do (short of trying to apply heat and bend it back). Bent wires may be able to be bent back.

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much and you’re absolutely right, I could/should have mentioned those points as well 🙂

I love it, i´m gonna try the tape! =)

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Thank you and enjoy! 😄

6:01 I've always wondered why so many vintage keyboards had PBT keycaps but an ABS spacebar. I think you've provided the reason for this right here!!!

@Civilian08

2 ай бұрын

It's because PBT is more prone to warping than ABS, with longer keycaps being more susceptible to it, so there were QC issues. It doesn't have anything to do with sound.

Great video. Im really intrested in the ghost bar. Really wannted to try them out and if they can maybe they will release a 7u size

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! I hope they make a wider version too, the more options we have the better 🙂

I'd already lubed my switch and double lubed my stabs before watching but that only did so much to fix the issue. watching this I lined my space bar with two layers of foam (some random foam i'd been saving from a keychron box from yonks ago) and taped that down with painter's tape. the difference is night and day! it's brought the sound profile of the spacebar wayy more in line with the rest of the keeb. still having some issues with uneven sound near the edges of the spacebar but i reckon that's a stab wire issue, and honestly it's pretty minor. good stuff, thanks for the vid!

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad it helped 🙂

tbh never realized how much of a difference the tape could make. I've resorted to using foam in one previous build with good success, but my issue is usually the stabilizers 4/5 times. Current go-to is the C3 Equalz v3 stabs

Nice vid mate

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

As always, thank you! 🙂

I’ve always been interested in your thoughts on ergonomic keyboards

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

There will be one later this year (if it eventually ships and arrives 😅)

@sandwich1920

4 ай бұрын

@@CheeseTurbulencecan’t wait

The greatest trick to making your stabilizers sound great is the plumbers mod, wrapping the stabilizer ends in 2 loops of plumbers tape and then lubing over the tape. I've repeated the mod on every single stab of all my keyboards and it instantly removes any ticking while also making the stabilizer keys sound deep and full. This mod has not yet failed me.

omg ill be thoroughly paying attention when i get around to watching this vid - just going off the title alone....my spacebar situation has been so bad for so long 🙏

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

I hope it helps 😅 If it’s regarding the stabilizers and lubing, don’t forget to check the links in the description to those tutorial videos, they are great 🙂

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

I hope it helps 😅 If it’s regarding the stabilizers and lubing, don’t forget to check the links in the description to those tutorial videos, they are great 🙂

For spacebars that rock from side to side (as seen in your video) you will also want to look at the stabilizers made specifically for long-pole switches. Both TX and Gateron have offerings that should help.

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

I didn’t even know there were spacebars specifically made for long pole-pole switches! 😯 Thanks for pointing that out, will check ‘em out! 🙂

@d3L7r0n_

4 ай бұрын

As someone who enjoys long-pole switches, and the odd Frankenswitch, I discovered very early on that long-pole/reduced travel switches aren't great with normal stabilizers. You can also look into stabilizers shims as well. Geon makes some pretty good ones 👍👍

@2:40, you've probably got a cracked stem in the spacebar, or (less likely) the stem on that stab has worn down. Regardless, the problem is that the spacebar stem isn't gripping the stab stem properly, causing it to pop up. If it's a cracked stem, you can try something like Tamiya Extra Thin cement to fuse the split (I had to do this with a set from Tai Hao). If the stab stem is a bit worn down, then a small square of plastic kitchen film can help with grip. A lot of times when people are having trouble eliminating stab rattle, and nothing they do works, it's this kind of fitment issue.

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for those insights 🙇‍♂️, I never thought about that and need to check the spacebar for cracks. Thank you! 🙂

4:43 what are those awesome keycaps?

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Those are the default keycaps that ship with the white version of the NuPhy Halo boards, they don’t seem to be selling them separately though 😔

11:12 C U R S E D I'm a linear spacebar tactiles for everything else person

UHU patafix > tesa TACK

I for one am so totally here for the bad languages jokes!

@CheeseTurbulence

4 ай бұрын

Wundervoll!

The thumbnail is quite misleading. The video itself only tackles the rattling issue of stabs briefly. But if it wasn’t for the thumbnail, I wouldn’t have clicked on the video otherwise.

@theguyfromzurich

4 ай бұрын

Well the thumbail nailed it then I guess 😂

@arkaneforyou

4 ай бұрын

its about the spacebar what did you expect ?

@abe5156

4 ай бұрын

​@@arkaneforyou Maybe wire balancing, or maybe the tri lube method, or maybe... something entirely new and different that no one else mentioned.

From the vintage keyboard world: leave the spacebar alone-it is supposed to sound different. 😅

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