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@jacksparrow9227

5 ай бұрын

He definitely looks like he could be a Targaryen or Lannister so if he's not Aegon he can be Loren

@jacksparrow9227

5 ай бұрын

I'd call it The Dragon's Conquest

@jacksparrow9227

5 ай бұрын

Or The Dragon's Prophecy/Dream because of the dream prophecy

@jacksparrow9227

5 ай бұрын

Meria better by 100 to mirror Aemon and be played by an old Hispanic woman instead of British unless she’s British Hispanic or something so the accent matches the Dornish. Sounds like Yoda, you do, ahehehehehehe

@jacksparrow9227

5 ай бұрын

I'd have Torrhen go treat with Aegon in the night himself, because of Stark honor

My headcanon: Visenya just had a lot of elder sibling energy, meaning very protective and slightly bullying towards both of them.

@SweetSummerChild1967

4 ай бұрын

My headcannon too! I don't want to see the sisters acting catty towards each other.

If I was writing the show I would spend the entire first season on set up before Aegon's decision to invade and REALLY dig into the big players in Westeros, the regional conflicts and power politics of the pre-conquest kingdoms, and doing character development of Aegon, Visenya, Rhaenys and Orys. Id also show Aegon fighting in the alliance against Volantis to add some extra Dragon action and set up Balerion as the flying doom machine that he is. Then season two is the Dragon Trio wrecking the northern 6 kingdoms shit. Season three will be the struggle against Dorne and the efforts to unite the kingdoms, with lots of court politics and council meetings in the rapidly growing KL. You could go into the son's of the Dragon stuff as a season 4 or just end it with Aegon making peace with Dorne.

@laza0202

5 ай бұрын

& There u go,that's how much interesting that era is ,some people look at the shell,l mean they just see from outside,think that interesting things just are unexpected actions in battle or slaughter,what do they expect? we all know westorous will be conquered,we need to look inside,esp. seeing the kingdoms & houses before being united is 1 of the interesting aspects...honestly u described it very well 👍 (ofc if the adaptation is in good hands)

@Slechy_Lesh

5 ай бұрын

Maybe there’s a danger of too much time spent on something which won't have enough payoff, like Dave mentioned. Though I do like the idea of bonding with- and book readers getting revelations about- house Gardener, before that thing that happens. And this way, Season 1 can also include the warring between House Durrandon and Harren the Black!

@MrHws5mp

5 ай бұрын

You could have the three Targs disagreeing on how best to achieve their aims, with Visenya being the "hawk" who wants to conquer, Rhaenys being the "dove" who wants to build alliances with diplomacy and Aegon swinging from one to the other and back again throughout Season 1. Then the season finale has events push them in the direction of conquest, and the last thing you see before the credits is Aegon planting his fists on the painted table, looking straight into the camera and saying something like, "well conquest it is then..." Expanding on that a bit, the underlying theme of the first season would be "different ways of getting what you want", with the stories in the other kingdoms being riffs on the pros and cons of hawk vs dove that reflect the debates around the painted table. You could also have a smallfolk story that reflects these in microcosm, making them relateable to ordinary people and setting up some characters who can then experience the war "in the trenches" so that it's not just a kings-and-generals story.

@dariushutchinson2424

3 ай бұрын

Excellent idea and setup

The thought of visenya bullying aegon while balerion cowers behind him will no longer leave my head😂😂

@ShelbyOfOldStones

5 ай бұрын

lol I could see Vhagar getting in a cheap shot on old Big B too. Can’t let the boys get too big for their britches

@Seelenverheizer

4 ай бұрын

indeed actually good chance she bullies him into doing what she wants all the time.

The producers should study Better Call Saul, honestly. That show was a masterpiece in making an expected outcome highly entertaining

@willbeard4835

5 ай бұрын

Did you enjoy the ending? The show was fantastic until the very end for me. I didn't like how they finished up sauls character but absolutely amazing show.

@ModMax69

5 ай бұрын

It is better than Breaking Bad in my opinion. Much more depth and variety. BTW... what is the song that David plays in these videos? Don't tell me Darude Sandstorm?

@willbeard4835

5 ай бұрын

@@ModMax69 I really enjoyed breaking bad but they are very close in quality. More gus!

@LarisaBayaMomo

5 ай бұрын

House of the Dragon took home the award for best drama and beat Better Call Saul. I'd say that the producers and writers working with Martin on all the series to come are doing just fine.

@BingeThinker1814

5 ай бұрын

@@willbeard4835 Yeah, I liked the ending for BCS. The character of Saul was a trauma cope to begin with, so the mutual spiralling after Jimmy and Kim's phone call was a believable inciting incident imo, and his guilty plea was believable knowing Kim was pleading guilty regardless. He didn't have much left at that point anyway, and it tracks that he'd have a bunch of friends inside after so much defending of criminals. I thought they tied up Kim's absence real well, and contextualized BB Saul to be more tragic than comedic (also, the BB Jesse dancing in the lab scene is now on top of Howard/Lalo lol). Only thing I thought could have been better was Lalo's death, but it was fun getting there anyway, even if we knew Gus had plot armour.

"Don't think about it too hard"... Well I wasn't thinking about it before, but *now* I'm think about it.

I think Aegons Conquest is once of those ideas that would work best as a 3 hour movie rather than a 3 season 30 episode series

@indianasquatchunters

5 ай бұрын

It all depends on how much GRRM gives them in order to flesh out the story. Obviously the book gives us a lot of the broad points and histories but I wouldn’t be surprised if GRRM gets with the writers to give all the characters more backstory and emotions.

@squisherking

5 ай бұрын

I agree. An epic Aegons Conquest movie would be incredible to see in theaters.

@VerbenaComfrey

5 ай бұрын

or a miniseries, yeah. thiugh if they build in a bunch of stuff with House Hoare and Harrenhal, and other things happening in Westeros before the Conquest . . .

@Hellsing7747

5 ай бұрын

I'm down for both but you might not be wrong

@rai2423

5 ай бұрын

Nooo! There are too many interesting characters it just to be a movie 😢

I want Aegon to be focused on fulfilling his destiny, Visenya to be focused on following the plan, and Rhaenys to be focused on enjoying the experience. Then, I want the friction to develop organically from their different affirmations to the same question. *Q:* "Why are you doing this?" *Aegon:* "Because it is my destiny." *Visenya:* "Because we are the only ones who can." *Rhaenys:* "Because Fire and Blood, Baby. You either get cooking or you get cooked."

@kevaughnmerrill6534

5 ай бұрын

Great summation! I agree a lot of intrigue could be grown from the reasons behind the drastic actions The Conquerers partake in

@Seelenverheizer

4 ай бұрын

the more i think about it Aegon has a good chance to be a very melancholic depressed man who sees his destiny as somewhat he has to do then something he want to do. Its a GRRM thing for sure.

Visenya is going to be the character a lot of viewers thought Young Rhaenyra was going to turn into in HOTD

@kevaughnmerrill6534

5 ай бұрын

Tbf Viserys also thought young Rhae was "a Visenya."

@DanLanningPRTeam

5 ай бұрын

@@kevaughnmerrill6534 I think Viserys was referencing Daemon when he said that. Rhaenyra in episode 1 is more like Rhaenys.

I feel like its worth mentioning that Rhaenys and Visenya never have ONE dispute that the maesters feel is worth mentioning, despite writing in much detail about the Targaryen's civil disputes after. Also Visenya and Aegon actually became quite close after Rhaenys' death and they both torched Dorne three times over. Visenya became incredibly protective over Aegon and was rarely not seen by his side and is when she created the King's Guard. They only became distant after AEGON made peace with Dorne and there's nothing to suggest it wasn't Visenya who chose to seperate, unable to agree with the peace after the death of her sister. I feel like the fandom is very quick to say it was Aegon who had the most autonomy over the dynamic/relationship between the siblings, that what he said was law and he decided who he loved and who he didn't and when to seperate and when to be close. Ancient Valyrians did not have gender roles and the conqueorors were without Westerosi customs or culture. Visenya by all rights would be the one to call the shots and its Aegon and Rhaenys who'd have to follow her lead as the eldest sibling. There's nothing to suggest it was actually her that did not love Aegon, or that it was at least a mutual non-romantic relationship and simply that of two siblings.

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

I've literally never heard anyone say that Aegon was the strongest sibling dominating the others. All signs point to Visenya being the "older sister" in e very sens e

@danysphoenix

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer I definitely have seen people pointing to Aegon being the head of the family. But I am more so talking about how the fandom is quick to assume the issues between aegon and visenya is rooted in aegon’s inability to love her or that she has somehow wronged him in some way (fan theories that she killed rhaenys, or that for whatever reason she was jealous that he never loved her back or as much as rhaenys). I have seen discussions on reddit that have gone as far to say that she was simply too “masculine” for Aegon. And many assume it was HIS idea for their separation when in actuality it would seem more fitting for her to have initiated it.

Aegon and his sisters are such larger than life characters, I’d like to see Orys Baratheon be the Nic Carraway to Aegon’s Jay Gatsby - like he’s the actual POV character.

I'd like it if they showed the Doom of Valyria as an intro like the War of the Last Alliance is shown in the LOTR trilogy.

My Wishes for The Conquest Show 1. Purple Eyes (it can't be that hard) 2. Colorful Dragons. I want colored flames that match the colored sclaes 3. Visenya and Rhaenys need to be the real main characters. Aegon is great, but he mostly plays the role of figurehead. His half-brother and his 2 sisters did most of the fun stuff. 4. Show off the other Kings and their Kingdoms. If you have 10 hours of screen time, the conquest would get repetitive if it was just Aegon point at a map, then burning it. 5. Don't stop when Aegon sits the Throne. It would be fine to end a season 1, but a lot of interesting stuff happens during Aegon's reign. His messy succession and the mess that follows leads into Jaehaerys I ruling which leads well into House of the Dragon. And a bonus, The Dance and it's fallout lead into Aegon IV's reign a fee decades later. A Blackfyre rebellion show (or movie) could connect the end of House to the start of Dunk and Egg. Its very ambitious ik, its way easier said than done, but with how detailed the 300-year timeline of the Targs rule is, i don't think it's impossible. There is a clear blueprint and HotD showed it's not afraid of time skips which could be used well.

@Seelenverheizer

4 ай бұрын

purple eyes would be great and yeah popping in some contacts might not be the most confy thing for the actors but its not bad. Sadly i think its show cannon that the Targs dont do the purple and i feel like they will try to be consistent.

So excited to see Balerion, Meraxes and our young nana Vhagar so happy for this. My impressions (i could be wrong) of the 3 conquerors based on Fire and Blood are: 1. Aegon (Father Archetype): he is a character whose dream in seed form was implanted in Westeros and all the events of the original saga are linked to that by obvious reasons. Analytical, reserved, rational, thoughtful tactician, independent, responsible and above all I think he is a master of planning. He's definitely introverted but I wonder if he was someone inclined to Valyrian magick or until he had that dream. 2. Visenya (the warrior archetype): if Aegon is a master planner she for sure is the commander and she may be similar to Aegon but likes to adjust Aegon's strategy her way. She for sure is confident, sharp minded, hates feeling weak, highly critical, has a hard time trusting others except her Brother. I believe Aegon and Visenya had a lot of arguments. And she for sure wanted to take the seven kingdoms to be more than just Aegon's wife. She may compete with him constantly and bully him, she's better than him. 3. Rhaenys (the lover archetype): she is the younger sister, no responsibilities, sweet, kind, full of ideas and the best dragon rider (just as Rhaenys and Meleys). She probably was careless and the conquest grounded her in reality and pushed her to achieve something in her life, Aegon plays a big part in her becoming driven. She is the impulsive dragon rider and probably Visenya scolded her constantly.

@sophiawilson8696

5 ай бұрын

You wrong about Ranyes she was smart woman not as good with sword. She good society and social works.

Pleeeeeeeeeease let this show actually happen. This is the one spinoff I wanted.

I think this is an optimal show to have a lot of flashbacks. Cold opens could be used to show Aenar's departure from Valyria, the conquerors' childhoods, and other immediately relevant history. The show's era might lack for significant interpersonal drama, but the holes can be filled with lore or even parallel storylines in history.

I love that you see that Aegon and Rhaegar have that sort of parallel because I remember when first reading about Aegon in TWOIAF, the thought coming like 'It's almost like I've read about this guy before, wonder where...' And then Fire and Blood like confirms it for me. So I wonder if the show happens and we get more on Aegon, then that means we'll also get more glimpses of Rhaegar's character through him as well. But honestly, I'm just all for Balerion😍

@willbeard4835

5 ай бұрын

I will be referring to balerion as Lil Baby B

@thing_under_the_stairs

5 ай бұрын

@@willbeard4835 I've nicknamed my big black cat Balerion, though rather than the Black Dread, he's more of a Black Vexation.

@Seelenverheizer

4 ай бұрын

yeah i think him and Rheagar might be very similar only that the way people write about Rheagar is more possitive / sympathetic so i could see Rheagar beeing the high charisma version and Aegon the middle to low charisma version. In all the books there is supricingly little positive written about him other then beeing a powerfull conquerer but also no bad stuff. Good chance he has just a sad man who was mostly about what he did then about himself.

I would love to see House gardener being a large part of it

Looking forward to seeing the fall of Black Harren and the Gardners and Durrendins, plus the whole weirwood arrows backstory.

Genuinely so excited for this. I’ve always wondered if Rhaenys died on impact or not. Hopefully they show us why Aegon flew to Dragonstone right after receiving the letter. I also hope they continue into the sons of the dragon. Then we’ll eventually see Rhaena, Jaehaerys and Alysanne. Might be the only time we get to see those three on tv. (Aside from Jaehaerys small cameo in HotD).

@thing_under_the_stairs

5 ай бұрын

What was in that damn letter?!?

I'd love to see Argella and Orrys having a grand love story like that of Erinyi and the first durrandon!

@rai2423

5 ай бұрын

I always wondered about that while reading the book. George made such a big deal out of her character only to never mention her again.

I think they'll lean into the ambiguity we've seen in House Of The Dragon so far. If Aegon presides over everything but we never really get to know his inner mind (as is the case in Fire And Blood) but instead see things from the viewpoint of his sisters and Orys, then that'll create a lot of mystery which, hopefully, would make up for knowing the final outcome of the conquest. Why did Aegon do what he did? And that's the heart of a series where we know the final outcome: why rather than how.

I want a maegor show so bad

"Was their sexual tension between Aegon and Torrhen? Why did Torrhen kneel? Don't think about it too *hard*" But what if I want to? 😄😁 What a masterful double entenderé, I kneel before y-- nvm

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

it was quite the entendre wasnt it hehehe

@thing_under_the_stairs

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer That entendre was at least a triple.

@hez859

5 ай бұрын

​@@DavidLightbringeroh wait so does Orys have black hair and blue eyes like the Baratheon family in present times? Idk I always assumed he actually looked more like a Valyrian and then the rest of his descendants took after the blood of the storm kings.. Super fascinating!

Praise Garth!!

@OctopusWithNoFriends

5 ай бұрын

As Nate Dogg would say, "PRAISE GARTH EVERYDAY!"

0:55 Just wanted to point out that several male actors also did this, like Jacob Elordi, and it seems more Ike a call for the producers and casting directors’ attention.

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

ahhhhhh interesting okay

@rai2423

5 ай бұрын

Which character did Jacob Elordi do this with?

hc that visenya terrorized aegon as kids (sibling style) which explains everything. sources: i have an older sister.

hope RR gets the part in the conquest musical at least

I swear to the old gods and the new that you have the driest, most well procured humor within any these KZreads! PS, I just got a baby dragon... Well, ok, he's a baby mangrove monitor. But he might as well be a tiny wyvern! I have dubbed him Rhaegal.

@ModMax69

5 ай бұрын

don't forget the UV light

@OctopusWithNoFriends

5 ай бұрын

@@ModMax69 oh my boy Rhaegal has alllll the lights and warmth lol

Three seasons gives off Hobbit trilogy vibes to me. How about seasons 2 and 3 covering the ground between Aegon's Conquest and The Dance of Dragons?

Rhaegars wig is an important part of the prophecy. I won’t be watching if they cut it from the show.

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

THANK YOU

Almost died praising Garth..."like me...I believe I'm lost in several layers of character..." 🤣

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

heh heh heh fourth wall? what fourth wall?

I hope we get to see House Targaryen leave Valyria. I think seeing Valyria on screen would be amazing, highly unlikely but i still hope.

I love the way you do these 20-30 minute vids. Been watching for a year and a half. Good stuff my dude.

I wish they wouldn’t call it “AEGON’s Conquest” though. I’m reminded of that Arya quote from GoT: “It was Rhaenys and Visenya too”. It makes me a little worried that it’ll just be all about how good Aegon is doing and Visenya and Rhaenys are basically arm candy and have it basically be a Marvel movie. I hope that’s not the official title of the series because they can do better if House of The Dragon and A Knight of The Seven Kingdoms is anything to go off of

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

I give them at least that much credit. it won't be a marvel movie

I have VERY high hopes for how the characters are written. I’m the most worried about Aegon and Visenya, both separately and interacting together. They don’t have a passionate love like Aegon and Rhaenys. It’s usually depicted as a marriage of duty and that’s it, but when Visenya cut Aegon’s cheek it felt like a protective older sister scolding her “idiot” younger brother and I love that dynamic. I mainly hope Visenya isn’t a one-dimensional hot villainess, Aegon isn’t a Marvel hero alpha male, and Rhaenys isn’t just eye candy tagging along for the ride. They all contributed and they are all nuanced characters. We deserve to see characters and not tired tropes.

I still don't like the idea of an Aegon's conquest show though this video does help some, like you said. Aegon is one of GRRM's few characters who straddles the line between being both humanized and mythological given his deeds and how little we know about his thoughts. I really like that about him. I do however, really want a Sons of the Dragon show. And a Blackfyre Rebellion show but I imagine that would be a looooong way out. I also don't like the theories about Aenys and/or Maegor not being Aegon's sons. Part of what makes Aegon so great is that he balances the soft heart and the tough heart that a good king needs. I think it's poetic that neither of his sons could live up to him because they each fell too far towards one side rather than have the balance of restraint and brutality. Similar to Ender's Game for those familiar with the background about him and his siblings. Jaehaery's having the balance is also part of what made him so great and makes perfect thematic sense for him coming to the throne after Aenys and Maegor.

I just want to see Pre-Doom Valerya on screen at some point, maybe as a flashback or as part of the beginning of the show, even if its just a brief glimpse that shows the events leading up to to the Targaryens landing in Westeros before getting into the Conquest.

I think the drama is making the Targaryens come across really scummy like the Lannisters but make them compelling just like the Lannisters. Also like House of the Dragon what we see on TV is what really happened. Crueler deaths, like the mad queen, that weren't necessary. Obviously the ending of the story is far more well-known amongst only show watchers unlike House of the dragon, but the histories are written by the victors so there can definitely be things about aegon's conquest that we truly did not know about After watching a bit more of this I didn't even consider that we actually get to see what Aegon was like. I think that's going to be the best part about this show honestly. I feel like probably over the period of him conquering everyone he'll probably become very sad or full of some regret that the way he has to bring the kingdom together to save humanity is by having to slaughter so many people. With the notes that him and King Hoar passed around, or maybe we'll see them. Talk face to face, I can see him wanting him dead since he's such a horrible person but at the same time pleading with him so he doesn't have to destroy something so magnificent, his castle, and burn everyone alive in it of course. Either way, I think this will actually might be the best part of the whole show. If it does get made of course. Now all they have to do is make Robert's rebellion, again. I know we already have all the information but still it's the in between stuff that is going to make a great.

@browniebear

5 ай бұрын

The idea that HotD is showing "what actually happened" is a blatant misconception on various levels.

@HyphyJuice916

5 ай бұрын

@@browniebear that's literally what's been said by the show runners

@browniebear

5 ай бұрын

@@HyphyJuice916 The showrunners are not exempt from committing errors and being delusional as was evident in season 1.

@thing_under_the_stairs

5 ай бұрын

@@browniebear So you don't agree with what GRRM himself has said about his own show? I'm confused.

@browniebear

5 ай бұрын

@@thing_under_the_stairs GRRM is not the Showrunner for HotD. He's a producer and occasionally sits in on discussions between the writers but Ryan Condal is the one who has the final say. Even if GRRM did say HotD is showing "what actually happened" then he'd still be wrong. He'd be trying to retcon his written work via statements if that were the case. The writers' biases and shortcomings ensure that HotD is just another unreliable narrator at best.

David, I need you to work with George and the people at HBO. My god you made me want this show NOW🔥

Thank you for using the word "regalia" vs. using the word "costumes" when talking about the world building. Im first nations, and people often end up calling cultural 'dress' as costumes rather than something more serious and rooted in culture & history. All peoples have their own special regalia. I love hearing the word used.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

when you're wearing antlers and shit it's definitely "regalia" hahaha

@kwtyee24

5 ай бұрын

@DavidLightbringer oh oh course! You must dawn the antlers for the ceremonial update/questions and analysis... and your sacred holy commentary 🤭🤣 But in all seriousness, I enjoy and appreciate your videos/content. Thank you for the little joys you bring peoples days 🙏🏻 the night is dark and full of terrors

How long has Visenya been bullying Aegon? I would imagine that she's been strong arming him for a very long time, and that he has learned to live with it or pick his battles with her. I'm excited to see if they flesh out the Ironborn more. Getting to know some of the ruling houses/characters from the Conquest will absolutely serve to enhance the Westerosi backstory. Brandon Snow seems to be very religious, which will give us insight into the wierwood religion, which the main show didn't really provide. We might actually get some Dornish culture instead of what we got in the main series, aka just "the Dornish like to fuck." There is a fantastic opportunity here to make this a truthful telling by including one of the main characters of the series/world as a whole; magic, and to also show that war is never black and white. I'm excited for this!❤

Thank you, David, what a treat in the middle of the week, and how exciting🎉🎉 you are so entertaining and charming, can’t wait for the Sunday stream

This is my sister, this is my other sister. One is for warfare, the other's for fun

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

love this comment

I wonder how theyll portray what happened to Rhaenys and Meraxes in Dorne. And the letter that was sent to Aegon.

Great video David. Makes me excited for A.C. series even more. Thanks for your take :)

Fun times. Thanks for the video. Feel this will be a great season

I hope a lot of the drama comes from the great houses in Westoros at the time , like the Storm King , Harren the black , Maybe see what it was like for Tully's and others in the river lands being under house Hors harsh rule etc.. Learn more and see into the lives of the people in Westoros at the time basically , stuff we haven't read

After watching literally ALL your videos on repeat whilst having the flu in bed I still got excited for a new one! ❤

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

aww thank you and I hope you're on the mend!

A few more questions: 1) Casting of Ageon and his sisters - if Caucasian actors are cast, then how does House Velaryon (specifically Valaena Velaryon) factor into this? What they could show is Valaena's dad remarrying someone from House Otherys after Velaena's Targaryen mom passing away, and have that explain why the Velaryons generally possess more melanin in HoTD (just a thought). 2) Valyrian lemur theory - I posted this on one of your other videos, but I think the 3rd head of the dragon is effectively immortal *provided* the deceased dragon skull remains intact (which is why Aegon cooled his heels after Dorne offered to return the skull of Meraxes) and that the third head has the ability to observe its surroundings through a dragon skull AND possibly affect events in the physical world. 3) What Valyrian magic/technology is still at Aegon's disposal during his lifetime that no exists (so far as we know) in the GoT/HoTD timeline? We know that the last of the Valyrian pyromancers hid Aegon's song in the steel of the catspaw dagger prior to his death, and we can assume that they knew how to hatch dragon eggs. But what else? 4) Why so few Targs at the time of the conquest? The only other Targaryen descendant not directly tied to Aerion Targaryen that we know about from this time is a descendant of Gaemon (Aegon the Conqueror's great-great-great grandsire)Targaryen's youngest daughter (who married a petty lord) who makes an appearance at the Great Council of 101 AC. And for that matter, what about the dragonkeepers? Were they descendants of dragonkeepers Aenar brought over (presumably)? And finally 5) Is Aegon's prophecy tied to a specific Prince or Princess, or is Valyrian prophecy the common refrain or chorus in a song with multiple verses (meaning that ANY descendant of Aegon around during the Long Night could be a potential candidate for the prophecy)?

@sophiawilson8696

5 ай бұрын

The Velaryons aren't not all Black People, it simple people Corlys's Grandfather married a Summer Isles Princess or Bow Ships Owner's daughter or daughters. Why I said plural just maybe the brother of Corlys's Grandfather did same thing. That why you so many Black members. There are White Velaryons but they aren't in positions of power in family. I suggest you people watch 23 and Ancestry episodes and see how family branches off into races. However what this person says could be possible that Great, Great remarry into Otherys family and had children with them

@billiealexander3480

5 ай бұрын

​@sophiawilson8696 thank you ❤.

@markgross6006

5 ай бұрын

@@sophiawilson8696 Hey genius - try re-reading what I wrote. You don’t need a 23 and Me test to know that people (at least on this planet) are divided into haplogroups, notions of “race” from a biological perspective are effectively pseudoscience, and that they are more accurately described as ethnic demes and clones. It doesn’t change the fact that certain observable external features are inherited, and HBO would do well to explain that if they’re going to make a show about the conquest. You don’t like mansplaining? Too bad - you got what you asked for.

Btw i am new to your channel but i have been completely hooked on your discussions about well, everything ASOIAF. i was revisiting the seriesand a friend encouraged me to check out the books and eventually i came to the world lore book and the empire of the dawn and THAT is my favorite thats what i typed in youtube to find your channel, im very glad i did, its cool to see a stoner buggin on out on the stuff we love, thats literally doing what you love and thats awesome bro. plus idk where your actually from but the streamer tag says VA and im from danville and its not everyday i see people rep VA on stream much love!!!

@alros1212

5 ай бұрын

Dude- prepare to have your mind fucking blown

@LamontTruthSeeker-gb8jb

5 ай бұрын

Va in the building!!!

I’ll gladly watch any show set in this world:) I hope it gets green lit

Although I'm excited to see these epic battles, I'm more interested in seeing the heart in conflict. There HAS to be so much going on in the minds and behind the actions of the Targaryen siblings. Although highly unlikely, I'd love to see a great dramatic director, like Alejandro Gonzalez Inirritu (I know he's a film director)...but a real actors' director...to flesh out this world.

Aww I haven’t been here in a while!!! Great vid as always D!

This has me really excited about it. Hopefully they use these ideas

Thanks Dave!

As always, I love your work

Im so frickin happy for this😂😂😂🎉

Oh, there once was a hero named Rhaegar the Boss, Who came flying from Valyria to old Westeros And the dragon did swagger and brandish his teeth, As he smote all the Dornish and made Starks go to knees But then he went quiet, did Rhaegar the Red When he met the half-centaur Lyanna, who said: "Oh, you poud and you lie and talk of prophecies Now I think it's high time that you put me in the marriage bed to bleed!" And so then came clashing and slashing of steel, As the brave lad Robert charched in full of zeal And the braggart named Rhaegar was no longer at court- When all of his rubies fell into The Fork Skål! :)

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

a very biased account but we love the poetry! Skal!

I think some of the drama can come from the relationship between Aegon and his bastard brother Orys. How much did he resent not being allowed to marry one of his half siblings and rule as four heads of the Dragon? It was House Baratheon that eventually topple the Targaryen dynasty. And why doesn’t he get a dragon? I think that could be a rich source of conflict.

@rai2423

5 ай бұрын

What makes it even more interesting is the fact that Robert is also the descendant of the storm kings and obviously the Targaryen’s defeated them. Perhaps Argella prayed for one day getting her revenge and it came true several generations later 😅

Fab video 💖💖 can't wait for the Visenya Gecko video shout out 🤣🤣

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

it's incubating...

I hope we will find out what is written in that letter Aegon received from Dorne after Rhaenys died. 🤔

My idea: the basis of the show is an elderly Daenys is on her death bed, she is surrounded by her children and grandchildren. She wakes and starts telling them about a dragon dream she just had in which she tells them how their descendant will come to rule the entirety of Westeros. She then goes on to tell the story of the conquest. It also allows for the writers to slip in the Doom.

I want the conquest from the view of the conquered! That’s the drama, fighting dragons for your freedom and having to bend the knee to survive…

All great questions no doubt, but Question #2 is definitely the one that piques my interest the most. Besides the idea of seeing The Black Dread, of course. That goes without saying.

🎼🎵 Produced Content! 🎶 Always amazing! Well done well done!!!

Your voice for Princess Meria reminded me of Yoda, which I think would also be a great casting choice. 😂

Thank you David for calling out these fake Snow videos!

Just seeing these characters on my screen is enough for me 😭

YAY new vid !!!! like it upp!!! great vid bro

10:37 speaking of Signs and Portents: I've just listened to History of Westeros's episode on the Dornish Letter, and one aspect of the mystery is of course "why did Aegon immedately fly to Dragonstone?" I believe the letter is related to the prophecy in some way, perhaps the Dornish claiming that their GEotD bloodline will be necessary for the fight to come. Could it be that Aegon was presented with information that could be verified by finding a particular passage in Signs and Portents, which as an important Targ relic was stored on Dragonstone?

We’ll get to see Balerion! Ooooh I so hope this happens!

If I were writing the show, I would make Brandon Snow and Torrhen Stark look similar, and do the ole parent swap when talking with Aegon- so Aegon thinks he is talking to Brandon and could either figure it out as it progress or figures it out when he shows up to kneel- there's a lot you could do there- and the real Brandon could be doing schemes while they talk to try and figure out how to avoid a war and kneeling- just a lot of potential there I would think.

I honestly think this would work better as a miniseries rather than a full show like Game of Thrones.

It would be interesting to see if they do anything showing the possibility of Aenys or Maegor not being the sons of Aegon. Jaehaerys and Alysanne’s daughter Alyssa’s physical description as having dirty blonde hair and one green eye is something to consider. Where’d that come from? Just saying.

@nonod5467

5 ай бұрын

Alysanne has blonde her and blue eyes and it is said it comes through Alyssa Velaryon whose mother was a Massey.

@annasanchez5959

5 ай бұрын

@@nonod5467 Yeah, you’re right about the Alysanne description. It’s funny though because I was thinking Alyssa’s mom was a Targaryen. So I checked and World of Ice and Fire says she was but Fire and Blood says she was a Massey. The one green eye of Alysanne’s daughter Alyssa is still a little unusual. Not to say that I know tons about genetics though.

I would love to see some more about the Iron Bank and Bravos in this series.

@ModMax69

5 ай бұрын

it would be cool if the faceless men were lurking around as well.

I havent gotten to the first question yet but I think the drama of the show will be (assuming its not a mini series) the failure to conquer Dorne, the tumultuous relationship of the siblings and if they do time jumps like hotd maybe even Maegor's rule

The drama will be the sibling rivalry. Who is gonna rule in the end? I predict, that Aegon will end up a figurehead, so that the more advanced Targaryans can rule the backwards predominantly white seven kingdoms, who would not accept a woman ruler.

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

that's one question I had, yeah. is it "Aegon's dream" and "Aegon's Conquest" or did they decide to use his name for the brand for obvious reasons

@vojtam5063

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidLightbringer Thanks for the response and sorry for the edgy cynicism, which hasn’t been earned yet as far as the ASOIAF adaptations goes. In all seriousness I really do think, that it will be about the siblings dynamics. The dragon after all has three heads, so they should be different but equal. But without any tough opposition it will become basically a One Punch Targaryen show. Who knows, they might explore the Doom of Valeria more. It might be, that the Targaryen didn’t flee from the Freehold, because they saw its doom in a dream, but they did it, because they had a hand in it and now, they will fight some survivors.

If Reading Rhaegar were king of Madison Avenue, I'd watch a whole lot more adverts. Kudos, Dave :D

Eventually we gonna get everything, miniseries about Maegor, tv show about Valyria, spin offs about valyrians, nymeria etc Will be like star wars now

Aegon claiming Balerion: first scene before the opening titles! Would mirror/foreshadow the claiming of Westeros.

It's so hard in this modern time to know what is real or totally made up. Did an AI make the article? Did the writer only have clicks in mind? It can be so frustrating! So thank you for cutting through the crap and bringing us the REAL news. Cheers brother

It’d be so cool to see Westeros before Targaryens ruled

Wonderful video!!! Rhaegar is the OBVIOUS choice to play Aegon. Geez. He’s got it in the bag. 😂

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

don't tel him but I forgot to send his tape to HO

Exciting!

This just makes me think that they should've adapted Fire & Blood from the beginning and start with this. A sons of the Dragon show sounds interesting. Maybe they make it part of the conquest and the show continues until the crowning of Jaehaerys, the guy who finally got the kingdoms to settle down.

What if they do it like vikings? The show could span a few generations and run for several seasons

In my opinion the perfect season one finale would be Harrenhall's fall. Then show the other kings starting to panic as a teaser for S2.

It's so exciting to have all these shows unfold! And TWOW to look forward, also!

20:43 - just wanted to correct the art credit, this cool Torrhen Stark is by J Victor Garcia! Thank you for your thoughts, LmL!

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

yes that was a mistake that's obv not Meria Martell hahah

Maybe we get the birth of the grand maester conspiracy

It wouldn't be till near the end but, now that George has introduced the idea of Aegon's Prophecy through HotD, we should see Aegon grappling with the fact that he failed to fulfill his dream by not bringing Dorne into the fold. On top of the death of Rhaenys and the grief in that, have him recognize that his giant jigsaw puzzle of Westeros will always be missing a piece, both literally and symbolically through losing both Dorne and his sister. Does he own up to this failure, or does he make excuses for it and claim victory in his prophecy?

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

these are more good questions. The video should have been "37 Big Questions for the Conquest Show" lol

Rhaegar is like Posh Spice being interrupted on cam by a David 😁

Oh the last battle whit Argelac a scene made for screen.

For your great videos and content they should consider having you in the show in a small roll or cameo.

Random question. Who would win in a free for all war between the 7 kingdoms and the iron islands excluding magic? With the army sizes and military leaders just before the start of the war of 5 kings. No alliances allowed. I thought about this for hours on end trying to come up with a realistic scenario. Ex if the stormlands attack the the reach. Dorne will attack the stormlands in turn since it's less defended. Food for thought. All I can say with this for sure is that the riverlands will wave the white flag first

All three of them must have claimed their dragons. Vhagar was around 50 years old at the time of the Conquest, Meraxes was was bigger than Vhagar so probably older, and the tradition of placing an egg in the ceadle was started much later by Rhaena when she placed an egg into Jaehaerys's cradle.

@DavidLightbringer

5 ай бұрын

ah yes thank you you're correct

It would be really cool if they made this show an animated series

Eagerly waiting for your illustrated expose about magical Targaryen reproduction. 💚🤓

Really sexy video. I love it my brother. The world building software is cool. Might be good for making game settings or chararcter