Damn, if the Ancient gives that much vision, we should be aiming to destroy it every game. I bet it'd sure make fountain diving a whole lot easier.

@rexoni2512

2 жыл бұрын

no, the aim of the game is to defend the ancient, not destroy it. :P

@aprophet8724

2 жыл бұрын

Sarcasm sir

@dotacow22

2 жыл бұрын

@@aprophet8724 sarcasm sir

@CarlJung666

2 жыл бұрын

That’s daytime vision

@ojasdamankar9851

2 жыл бұрын

Destprying ancient makes it rather impossible, so we are correct

What a bad tp, you should have simply walked to the computer and saved the TP because now it is on cooldown if you need to make an emergency rotation to the bathroom.

If u dont have observer ward at mid and you happen to do the contesting LH where ure on the river and ur enemy is on their HG. You can always click on any enemy hero on the other lane to aggro the creeps, its a bit difficult and only worth doing on the first and second waves

i really love how educational your videos are much love jenkins

I've been using the last trick since forever. Another good use for it is with illusions. If you select the actual hero, and then they use manta or doppel or phantasam or whatever to create illusions, the hero will stay selected and you can then ping their hp bar to highlight them.

@zzzoro3418

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@Lotus_FX

2 жыл бұрын

Oh snap this is clutch

@yasubarkan4100

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah weve been doing this for eternity, except heralds

@drusepth

2 жыл бұрын

It's also handy to see when they combine items at e.g. the secret shop. The components that combine into a new item will disappear from their inventory and they'll just have an empty slot in the inventory for the new item (since you haven't seen it yet), but you know what item it is from the components that disappeared.

@pektuspektus612

2 жыл бұрын

Wow great tip!

Tip #69 If you are the Lich who is selected like this, you can always go out of vision and drop observer somewhere in the trees or give it to someone else, thus tricking enemies that you placed a ward there.

@popkornking

2 жыл бұрын

Wonder if there would ever be a situation where wasting the enemy's time/sentries would be more valuable than the vision itself.

@dkdakty

2 жыл бұрын

200 iq Einstein's mentor right there 👆

@keegs1163

2 жыл бұрын

thats pretty 5Head but also kinda paranoid :D :D

@jhydpumar3244

2 жыл бұрын

I assume this works for high mmr right? Low bracket would never be this dedicated in paying attention to gameplay details lmao

@badrinath5306

2 жыл бұрын

If I know they have selected me and starting at me I would rather tell my carry to go their job of either killing them or pushing tower.

as always, really helpful! keep up the good work!

Thanks for your tips man love ya

I always thought that the huge amount of base vision was just passively coded into the game. I never realized it was from the ancient itself. Thanks for the education, Jenkins!

@kayne7380

2 жыл бұрын

Same here in warcraft 3 dota the ancient has the same vision as a tower

@ljyanz231

2 жыл бұрын

You could be right tho, because there’s no way to check Jenkin’s theory (or maybe it’s a fact, correct me if i’m wrong). Because you can’t destroy the ancient to check if it gives the vision. 🤣

@ulykhbyekmaralbyek6981

2 жыл бұрын

@@ljyanz231 You can prove it is from ancient because behind the trees in the base does not get vision after the tower and rax are destroyed, proving it is not coded

@chikin6146

2 жыл бұрын

@@ljyanz231 Get Np and use Sprout on the Ancient

@webdev2670

2 жыл бұрын

just plant a tree and hide behind it, voila, you've proven it

The ward trick works with a lot of stuff. Mostly when they combine some item, lets say they had a basher, if you keep the enemy selected when they upgrade to abisal de basher will disappear

@AliMohamed-fu5lc

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah me and my brother have used this thing forever to watch supports that are about to leave vision when they place their wards as well as pinging items that got delivered outside of vision.

@promo_whirlwind

2 жыл бұрын

I use this trick alot when coaching or watching friends. Every single time I see the supports I just watch them and let whoever im watching know where the ward was placed

@keegs1163

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the most useful thing that i use it for is smoke scouting. Catching wards and new items is nice but knowing a smoke is coming changes everything

Very helpful bro. Thanks!

You can also do that with items before the disassemble timer is up i used to do it with arcane boots and tranquil boots in lane as a support to get some easy heals but still have the ability to give my carry mana during lane phase only stoped doing it because i sold my boots one time on accident

Tip #5 extended, if you box select an enemy with a few item components then he runs into fog and gets final components delivered, you will see their components disappeared so you know they finished their item like bkb.

That was an extraordinarily hilarious intro. Well done.

@brandonchew9936

2 жыл бұрын

And the best part is that it synergize well with this video's theme.

as a coach i always have enemies selected to see when they ward or when they have their new item ready. my boys love the info. its a feature so we can use it.. hope it doesnt get removed because it adds so much depth to the game actually.

@sexcommunist

2 жыл бұрын

Should be removed. Looks like a bug

@hunorendrevizi1483

2 жыл бұрын

@@sexcommunist no

@hunorendrevizi1483

2 жыл бұрын

@@sexcommunist you have to see that both teams can do it.. so if you have both try then its another layer to the competition.. its fun.. if you dont like it.. well dont use it.. people in the bracket where tricks arent used shouldnt have a problem with such tricky mechanics being in the game..

knew 4th and 5th, but damn lotus one is amazing. Also really nice addition on tier 2 tower gankings

3:57. No sir, biggest vision in game is night stalker morphed by lycan while he hold a seer stone and luna is in your team with global aura and a moonshard

@ommarjamal9772

2 жыл бұрын

olollololol

Poo You weren't exaggerating with the last trick, that's really helpful as a support who is trigger happy with dewarding - thanks papa

And best 2021 intro award goes to... "I teleported here" -Jenkins

great intro! thumbs up for that :)

I doubt the last trick will ever get fixed. If i remember correctly, it worked the same way in dota 1 too. The only downside to it, is that you can't order any command to your hero (attack/move/cast spells) because you would lose focus of enemy hero.

Poo Caveat to the final point: it only works if it's the last ward that gets used (or the last of any other consumable item). If an enemy hero has two obs wards and uses only one of them, you won't see a change in their inventory.

the first tip just blew my mind yet its so simple

Nice tips!

Tip #5 bonus. If enemy is tping in base just select them and youll see what item they bought(when they take it to their inventory) like bkb/blinks or whatsoever.

@lohjiacheng1492

2 жыл бұрын

Poo

@syazry1498

2 жыл бұрын

You also can know which lane they tping by looking at where they are facing during the tp chanelling

I always abuse the last one and letme tell you, as a support 5 it's great for clearing obs wards from the enemy

Does the last trick work for active and toggle items such as shadow blade and armlet

Poo tank in a mall 🤣 Really helpful tips and tricks ❤️

Poo. This last trick was why I loved the setting to to not take over my hero panel when selecting the enemy. Until they abandoned support for it when no-one was using it and now it's missing critical information (aghs and talents). It allowed you to click on an enemy hero and monitor their items while continuing to last hit/fight etc.

@justasianthings2584

2 жыл бұрын

yes this is actually the most usefull setting in-game for a long time

@staindk

2 жыл бұрын

That setting was a great idea but from day 1 it had some bugs (can't remember exactly what, but it made a bunch of niche actions difficult/impossible to perform). Releasing a feature like that and not fixing bugs ASAP is a great way to ensure 0% of the playerbase uses it :(

@MaxAndHisBike

2 жыл бұрын

@@staindk i think it was just added to make the transition from league to dota easier. It was never intended to be the new way of playing, they just wanted it to be available in case someone is used to having it

@eXponentia

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaxAndHisBike This isn't true. It was added because leagues way of doing it is better, and they wanted to transition people over to it. When they first implemented it it was automatically turned on as the default, people revolted and they made it not the default option any more, and then they stopped supporting it.

@RealHypocrisy

2 жыл бұрын

@@eXponentia nothings better about league holmes.

Nice TP.

Thank you for making my Poo more enjoyable : )

Helpful tricks 🥳

poo. Jenkins I love the stuff where you watch heralds. I just started playing dota myself and just hit the requirement for ranked. I can leave you some replays if I get to watch you commentate over them.

30 seconds in and I'm having a meltdown as a timbersaw player, my life is a lie

Poo Great tips Jenkins! very useful and love your vids especially the herald plays!

the warding tricks are game changing for my bracket

I think the ancient vision is pretty OP and should be targeted immediately by the team instead of fountain farming. Poo

poo thankyou for the tricks Jenkins, can't wait for new things to learn from you.

when and to whom have u given the DC hook, i wanna know!

jenkins, what do you do when youre getting feeding in mid already and can't win the lane anymore?

@Awmsies

2 жыл бұрын

Leave the lane and help your sidelines and farm on the way back

Pretty useful tips.

Poo Jenkins do more of the herald reviews it always completing my days when ur describing how they play HAHAHAHa

how you can always find a nice trick like this ? It's sure will help dota players to grow. So thankyou, i will wait for the next trick !! ^^

That first 1 though👌

where's the link to the script for placing wards exactly onto eachother? also the disassemble and use mana boots script link would be a great addition here too.

The opening of this video made me laugh so hard I choked

Last trick always help me in the Guild quest of dewards

Winnie the Pooh would be the shop keeper if a 'hundred-acre woods' terrain were released, and I would love that.

poo! enjoying your comedic takes on things. thanks

That dc hook will be mine!

best DOTA 2 videos

Nice TP

quelling blade trick is neat

Disagree with #4. I try to place observer outside of sentry vision so it doesn't get found as often.

Poo Im here for that dragon claw... Though never hurts to complete Jenkins vids, learn a lot from them

0:20 I thought you can only disassemble an item within 10 secs. from being combined. I haven't played Dota 2 for like 2 years. Did they change it?

poo love you videos jenkins, keep up the good work

Poo Nice tips i never knew the highlight one better try it out soon

Really insightful stuff.definitely gonna remember to use these tricks in my future games. Also. Poo

Excellent work as always milord. Poo

5:54 I think this one was patched. You can now select enemy heroes in the top bar IF they've been seen at least once by your team before.

Nic tips

Poo - what your advice videos would never be! Thanks for the education!

mr. Jenkins, would you be interested to see a Russian 36/10/19 Techies pub game (1:20:15), because of which i almost deleted dota?

Is it just me? Or Jenkins sounds like the man who's narrating NileRed

great tips as always bsj, also nice haircut. poo

Nice tps

Poo! Damn it Jenkins, how come you literally teaching me these things i didnt know and ive been playing since 2013. Damn it man how noob am i

tree one was nice, I'll try it in my next game, Poo.

Nice

Poo Good video man, im still trying to get all your autograph from this TI to apply it to my items hahahaha

Also figured out quite late how to get a gem out of a game where peope just die and drop it, and it affects you in a bad way(like riki or bh). Just leave it in your courier.

POOOOOOO thanks for the tips

The best counter to ancient vision is to destroy the ancient

I can finally play techies every single match because the time I'm not mining I can just sit around with their core selected to ping to my team every 5 seconds that we're fucked

poo i dont need that hook you mind blowing tips is all i need thanks

So the supposed advantage of the 1st trick is that, even after building your Arcane boots into Lotus Orb, you can still disassemble it back and potentially restore 675 mana for your team every 45 seconds, even less time if you have something with cooldown reduction. Given that the average pickup time from your research is 28 mins, this strat is super niche and totally isn't worth it for a few interwoven reasons. I. You gain 25% more mana from Lotus Orb's mana regen for yourself anyway in any given time frame. You could say that building back Arcane boots tops you (and your team) up with even more mana, which is more than enough to offset the reduced regen from breaking down Lotus back to Perseverance. But that depends on; A) how fast you can go thru the motions of disassembly & reassembly, B) keeping track of the cooldown, C) Inventory & Backpack availability, & D) if any teammate is near enough to benefit from it in the 1st place. II. Training your brain and APM for efficiency will diminish in returns the higher you go, and eventually you will hit a plateau. Time spent disassembling is a window of vulnerability you give to gankers, chasers, and position info if you're in sight of a ward. In a game that is inherently fast-paced and chaotic which only becomes more so the longer the game goes, keeping track of a 'ghost' item every 45 seconds or less is 1 more thing to clutter your mind queue & cause you to stumble. Unless you can disassemble & reassemble in 3 seconds flat, this strat gets riskier the longer a game gets. III. Inventory/Backpack space is another factor. Even after picking Lotus Orb up at 28 mins and into most 50min games, the average player will likely still have 1 free slot & 2 in the backpack, which is good for this strat. BUT while Boots & Lotus Orb only take up 2 slots each, their ingredient items take up 4 slots, and have item combining automatically locked. Time spent arranging your inventory is time not spent on map awareness and other more important things. For the same reason, players often keep Shovel in the backpack, but at least you CAN see its cooldown, and that's just a matter of swapping neutral items. IV. By 50mins, you will probably have another source of mana regen that makes Arcane Boots obsolete anyway, and boots would also built up into BoT or Greaves, which makes this strat redundantly fringe. Same goes for your team. Hell, you can just spend 50-225 gold on some consumables if you're that starved for mana. And considering the usual motions of late game affairs, you will either win the clash & recover mana while pushing, or die & wait for respawn which makes this strat moot. If you lose a clash but survive, you are either a safe distance away already, or being chased. If the enemy team has PL or AM, you will get kited and drained of mana if they manage to pin you down, which isn't hard. V. Most Timber players or heroes that do build Lotus orb will probably build Arcane again for Aether Lens, Soul Booster, or other items. Supports naturally build into Arcane, so it's better to leave that to them, or spend gold on consumables instead of standing there & making yourself vulnerable for +7 seconds. The only case with would be useful would be if you are out of mana and can lead the chase into the tree. Block the way with a Branch (another slot) to buy yourself time. If they have dagger or AM, you might still be able to juke them, but Storm, PL and other heroes can outright destroy trees. TLDR; it's tedious and not worth it, very niche cases aside. Save yourself the trouble & get a mango, clarity or Raindrops.

@Bill_Cosby717

2 жыл бұрын

One other benefit though ..it means in clutch scenarios you can turn the perseverance into a refresher for basically 1600 less gold..don't remember which game but it was done on mag during last ti

@PaszerDye

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bill_Cosby717 true, but not really related to the point I was making about the trick.

@saltiney8578

2 жыл бұрын

well if u watch jenkins stream he dissassembles his lotus orb and uses arcane boots just on himself all the time. it takes him about 3 seconds or so to do it. so in that amount of time he would gain 12 mana and instead gets almost 200. Just because you arent good enough to disassemble and its too "tedious" for you doesnt mean its not useful. I didnt realize you were immortal lul

@PaszerDye

2 жыл бұрын

@@saltiney8578 It's not 200, it's 135. Granted, he's not being super fast because it's a demonstration. If you actually time him as he disassembles, it actually takes him roughly 7 seconds, from Lotus into Arcane Boots & back, because items get auto-locked when disassembled which you spend more time to unlock each. You also obviously want to access Lotus Orb's active rather than have an Arcane Boots on cooldown. Say you practice, and can get it down 5 and a half. Keeping track of an invisible cooldown is another thing to add to the mental juggle of playing dota. This still isn't something you would do going into or in the middle of a clash. Instead of fiddling with your inventory, you're attention is better spent elsewhere on the actual fight where a lot can happen in 5 seconds alone. Better to be at the clash with 135 less mana, than spend 5 seconds being 'efficient' and potentially missing the moment you can it around, or miss it entirely, be outnumbered, then die. 195 gold for 3 mango/300 mana is much better investment than spending +15 seconds with this trick and potentially losing your window of opportunity. Even Raindrops + Sage mask, or either of those alone would be better. Given his findings, 28mins Lotus Orb in a game that runs for, let's say, 75mins. Say you can actually keep track and use your extra Arcane to get extra mana every 45 seconds. 5 seconds to change it from Lotus to Arcane & back. Of the 47 mins after getting Lotus, that adds up to 5 minutes spent just to get extra mana. Granted 8.3k mana is huge, but you just spent 10% of the time fiddling with your inventory to be 'efficient' instead of getting into position and helping your team. Also, I don't care about ranks, much less MMR. I know it's shocking, but there are other things to enjoy in the world. Unless you're a pro who actually makes a living by winning tournaments, or doing YT like Jenkins and others, MMR & rank mean nothing. It's just another fun game, and I like talking/discussing stuff on things I like. Don't be a MOBA rat, and conversate like a normal person who's life doesn't revolve around 1 thing.

@saltiney8578

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaszerDye the only reason I bring up ranks is because your acting like disassembling and reassembling something is taking up a huge amount of bandwidth on a dota players mental juggle, which is true unless your very good at the game in which case you can easily be doing all these things constantly. As well as even a small advantage such as extra mana being a big deal at the higher ranks where everything is very punishing and basically not worth your time at a lower level dota. Anyways ur watching a video by an immortal player showing a trick I see him doing frequently in his matches and saying its basically a waste of his mental bandwidth, Go watch his stream or something the lad is checking like 15 things all the time its not that hard for him to quickly click his items a few times in the downtime and get some free mana. U dont "stop and fiddle with your inventory" you do it casually while walking from camp to camp or towards where u need to be or whenver there is downtime which there is a lot of the time. Also I can tell you dont watch any high level players because they are insanely quick at inventory management.

the 5th trick been doing it for years to deward or tell my team to deward if i am core :P

Poo anyone know if Anicent give same amount of vision at night / morning time?

“Poo” bear is best bear

Poo! Thank u wise old man Jenkins!

POO Dge is my favorite!

I really thought there is going to be many poos here but I can't see much 😂

Poo haha funny But for real, Informative and enjoyable video for sure. Definitely gonna be using the last two, making the enemy support's life hell is gonna be fun.

Poo Thanks for the vibeo jamkin

i have used that trick 5

I still don’t get role supps not warding enough, you get tons of GOLD for just dewarding!

Poo. Props for 5 genuinely useful tips that weren't clickbait!

Poo, I wondered why people in my pubs had suddenly discovered that they can stack wards and now I have found the culprit!

Poo Thanks for the infos. I always learn new things that I add in my games and actually works every time I use the tricks

Poo That lotus orb clutch might come in handy someday.

Poo for dragon hook!

Poo You think that that last trick will be patched oit eventually? I mean might not be the effort but doesn't that go against the idea of the fog?

P000...TANK IN A MALL!

Poo (Slang) 1. (noun) Excrement 2. (verb) (used without object), pooed, poo·ing. "I defecated in the bathroom, it was a nice poo" P.S. sick tp jenkins, how much does an irl tp scroll cost?

Poo? Or maybe POODGE SPIRIT?

Hey, he just teleported here

Poo The intros and outros are the best !!

Poo Thanks for always teaching us scrubs dad!

Poo Thanks for always being there