5 Metal Mixing Myths You Shouldn't Believe In

Dennis Ward is tutor at HOFA-College, the international online academy for audio engineering & music production.
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0:00 Intro
0:28 Myth No. 1: Low and high pass on everything
2:33 Myth No. 2: High Gain = More Metal
3:35 Myth No. 3: Midscoop conspiracy
6:03 Myth No. 4: Turn your amp to 11
7:33 Myth No. 5: Bass doesn't matter

Пікірлер: 31

  • @jsd1982
    @jsd1982 Жыл бұрын

    100% agreed on all these myths. I just wanted to add that backing off the amp gain is a good first step but I think what really brings the rhythm sound to the next level is to add a squishy compressor with just the right attack/release settings, aiming for about 3dB of gain reduction on the heaviest palm-muted chugs. If the compressor can't "see" the chugs then your gain is too high. Double up those rhythm tracks panned left/right and maybe stack on a center track.

  • @jpazviera
    @jpazviera5 ай бұрын

    Agree with all of them 100% specially with the bass and not just to support the guitar but also making it cut through the mix to show its beauty/licks.

  • @semirrahge
    @semirrahge Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU for the mid scoop! I cannot stand hearing people talk about how if you like metal you want an aggressive V shape to the mix and then an aggressive V on your headphones or whatever. It's ridiculous, it sounds horrible, and I'm happy to hear someone put an end to it. Just listen to your music. It will tell you what you need to do with it.

  • @jacksmith4460

    @jacksmith4460

    Жыл бұрын

    Only people who dont make metal think that, most folks who make metal get that mids are important and scooping them is silly

  • @brickwilliamsguitar6307
    @brickwilliamsguitar6307 Жыл бұрын

    Great advice on every point.

  • @DjJay
    @DjJay Жыл бұрын

    Admit it, bass is an after thought in Metal. Thats why you have so many bassists playing the non traditional way of playing bass, Cliff Burton, Joey Demaio etc etc to get some of the lime light. When was the last time you thought to yourself, man that metal song had a great bassline.

  • @joseferro1432
    @joseferro14326 ай бұрын

    Love the Video. Thank you. Bass Matters Too!

  • @kimchi2780
    @kimchi2780 Жыл бұрын

    The GOAT himself Dennis Ward!!!

  • @mcsweet1966
    @mcsweet1966 Жыл бұрын

    So to summarize ... Always listen LOL Thanks man, I never thought of the over use of the Low Cut before so I will keep that in mind for sure :)

  • @antiHUMANDesigns
    @antiHUMANDesigns Жыл бұрын

    Overloading the power amp seems more like a rock thing than a metal thing, at least nowadays.

  • @hughwaldockpiano
    @hughwaldockpiano25 күн бұрын

    I think it applies to anything you are recording, especially the EQuing. It's all right to do it when you start to learn EQuing. I think it comes form the old V2 syllabus following the mix documentation for Demons. We must have all got the impression it worked every time, but if you do really start to get sophisticated with it you do take notice of other things. For example the need to oversample and even boost the presence range because it increases the charisma of the performance. But I must say at first I really did cut corners with it myself and am 100% guilty of a 99 Herz chomp out of the sound. I've started to notice though that pretty much only applies to good vocals if at all the keys or acoustic piano are different animals all together Id' day 60-80 Hrz for the low cut and you might wanna cut it more than once at that level. Spoken word I feel is about 80-85 with my voice. My rock song still sounds a bit dull in the mids for my submission a bit muddy. I think this is my best voiceover processing it's got a bit of spring reverb and a low cut of about 80-85hz. I think that sounds quite nice. I'm getting quite good with the vocals and the SM58. on.soundcloud.com/g3aQVHsQVrpC6Z7D8. These vocals are sung but the backing track is a recording and subsequent further processing of a Karaoke machine taken down with a Large Diaphragm condenser mike there is a little too much space between the mike and speaker, but again the vocals are quite nice and crisp I just hold the mike in my hand now. It's me singing the Dutch National Anthem. I like National Anthems but in Dutch. on.soundcloud.com/CPiAMdLY97X5CBCp7 Maybe if I'd recorded my midi track playback form the Sibelius score and not just imported the midi track in the DAW I could get more character and space into my piano part for my song contest entry this year. That's one to remember for next time even though I've submitted my rock song now. This is my number for the competition and the rock song submission. The transient shaper is good on the drum machine. I quite like the LFO on the vocals too it reminds me of My Favourite Game, but the piano part is a bit wooden for my taste. I am still learning though. I started with production at 43 2 years ago with a background in Classical Music Performance so....It's still a new skill for me. hofa-contest.com/song/16258/ I'm loving your degree course though, despite my age.

  • @peevee605
    @peevee605 Жыл бұрын

    Ward has authority so I agree.

  • @6oundStudio
    @6oundStudio Жыл бұрын

    I've actually come to high- and low-passing my guitars by myself, and it gave me tremendous results right away, so I wouldn't consider it a myth. Those tools exist for a reason, and in many cases cutting lows can give your better results while compressing and limiting the signal while cutting highs makes instrument more focus and less hiss

  • @pablo.l

    @pablo.l

    Жыл бұрын

    You are not listening bro. He never said 'never hi pass anything '. The myth it's that hi passing is always need in the mixing stage of an album/recording.

  • @6oundStudio

    @6oundStudio

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pablo.l well, in my case high-pass is always needed in the mixing stage of an album ecording, and I'm sure there are lots of mixing engineers who also enjoy this tools in every project they work on. mindlessly filtering everything is indeed a bad practice, but this is common knowledge, isn't it?

  • @shanebullard7995

    @shanebullard7995

    Жыл бұрын

    Like he said it does depend on what’s within the frequency if you have a bunch of low horns and distorted guitars and kick and bass guitar, your going to want to figure out how to get all of them to sit in the mix at that low end and cutting below 100 hz will be necessary. That also means subtract not entirely cut.

  • @6oundStudio

    @6oundStudio

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shanebullard7995 turns out that filtering is not a myth, it seems

  • @necroticpoison
    @necroticpoison Жыл бұрын

    Volume is underrated especially in plugins. Really finesse it until the amp gets to a sweet spot. You can go from flat or weak to perfectly dynamic or full. Some amps need volume at 2, some need it at 8, definitely use your ear.

  • @alrecks619
    @alrecks619 Жыл бұрын

    for low and high passing guitars, the speaker (and maybe microphone) basically acts as one so it's bit redundant and might ruin the phase relationship between the guitar, bass, and kick drum.

  • @mindmachinepsy
    @mindmachinepsy Жыл бұрын

    I'd also like to mention the phase issues that can be introduced by mindlessly high passing everything. How often did i high pass just to realise my signal has gone asymetric. Of course that can be fixed with a linear phase EQ, but that introduces significantly more drag on the CPU. Also linear phase EQs really don't like transients like snares, so again only high pass if needed, and be careful with your phase and transients

  • @gravyblue

    @gravyblue

    Жыл бұрын

    You're 100% wrong.

  • @mindmachinepsy

    @mindmachinepsy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gravyblue Then elaborate on why i am wrong instead of just pissing infront of me not mentioning why

  • @KK-hp5bl
    @KK-hp5bl8 ай бұрын

    👍🤟

  • @michaeledge7897
    @michaeledge7897 Жыл бұрын

    We all know 500 hz is the enemy of all metal

  • @tommyaudio
    @tommyaudio11 ай бұрын

    quite a controversial video here! 😂

  • @ebelchior
    @ebelchior Жыл бұрын

    Did you get a selective german accent just for saying METAL? Cool video!

  • @AbeldeBetancourt
    @AbeldeBetancourt4 ай бұрын

    "Flat, two dimensional and very very boring"... Just like most Metal nowadays

  • @greghillmusic
    @greghillmusic Жыл бұрын

    High pass everything.. yes. Thumbs down and stop watching.

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic Жыл бұрын

    When someone says 2 dimensional, game over. Irrelevant concept.

  • @jaystay1514
    @jaystay1514 Жыл бұрын

    Guys with shitty rhythm hands like drowning their tone out with gain because it masks their sloppiness