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@pausetapest.v8302

2 ай бұрын

Someone need to do something on wong shun long! He was the real IP Man he was called talking hands

@brookatkins8111

2 ай бұрын

@@pausetapest.v8302the King of talking hands

@pausetapest.v8302

2 ай бұрын

Yes he was King of the talking hands he was Ip man's first student 👏

@kathyong405

Ай бұрын

Cool yeah I talked to the driver and two other people that were at the Wong Jack Man challenge for Bruce Lee. They came to visit my teacher and my teachers, older brother of former Hong Kong cop both students of Mann private students. 22:54 22:54 22:54

@kathyong405

Ай бұрын

Sorry, got cut off there. I talked about the chase and Wong being held up and the spikes. And Cantonese and broken in English, it was spoken.

Your channel is criminally underated, dawg. Your delivery is always very concise and well explained and evidenced. A rare enough thing among 'fight' channels.

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

YEP

Bruce Lee the legend, he will never be forgotten.

@Wolverine-m6e

2 ай бұрын

💙

Prince. Thank you Sir. Your one of two that I subscribe to on the History of Bruce Lee and others. I’m 61 now, but when I first heard of Bruce Lee, It was 1973 when Fist of Fury(the big boss) and The Chinese Connection ( Fist of Fury) hit theaters along with Dirty Harry and Magnum Force. Eastwood movies was playing at the Norwood blue, and Lee movies at the gold. 2 of my Sisters at that time was geared to go watch Eastwood. I was 11 and already an amateur Boxer, and Judo. When my Sisters returned home they were so excited, and amazed at what they witnessed, instead of going to the Eastwood movies, they were diverted by other movie goers to the Lee movies. They both said Stan, we have never seen a Man move like that, they said He was like a ballerina! When I went to go see the movie, I had to be accompanied by an adult but I couldn’t believe this Man could move with such grace and fluidity! The next thing I knew He had passed away, but the reason why I didn’t believe it ,because when the CBS news announce His death, it was a picture from ETD, which was not released yet,I just remembered His face from FOF, and CC. In the states we only knew Him by Kato, we never knew it was Bruce Lee.

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

me too !

Everyone wants to be like Bruce Lee but don’t want to train like him

@Vibrapion

2 ай бұрын

Love training like him

@axelstone3131

2 ай бұрын

This is why most people don’t attain Bruce Lee like skills.

@dark3l192

2 ай бұрын

@@axelstone3131 fr man

@jacksblack9081

Ай бұрын

True

@AISEARATOKALAU

Ай бұрын

Bruce must be good, a lot of people is making business out of his name. These are the kind of people that change the history in book writing. Bruce wife, not a friend. Bruce real wife who saw the fight with her own eyes, This guy proves her wrong. Why don't you bring Bruce wife to your show and interview her infront of the world and maybe we can listen to your business channels.

Alexander, Jesus Christ, Bruce Lee all died at 32. And all of them were great.

@user-yc6dq5tj1k

Ай бұрын

خالد ابن الوليد و عنتره ابن شداد والزير سالم

His Roundhouse Kicks Was Truly Something Out Of This World Long Live Bruce Lee You Is TRULY Missed Thanks For Keeping His Legacy Going🤜🤚

Great Video, I wanted to add that there was an article on Bolo and he mentioned the fight with Lau Tao Chuen to Bruce Lee and Bruce admitted it happened but told him not to mention it to no one. Thanks for posting this.

Bruce Lee lives on forever!!!

The way Jesse Glover describes Bruce's victory by knockout over Yoichi Nakachi, it sounds like it was just savage. Glover said Nakachi "looked like he was dead. I was afraid. I thought, 'Damn, I hope this guy's not dead'....his face looked like somebody thought he was a baseball and had taken a bat to him." They learned later Bruce had cracked Nakachi's skull, with the fracture extending from his orbital bone down into the cheekbone. ....and this was before Lee even started to work on Jeet Kune Do.

@axelstone3131

Ай бұрын

It was savage, this is why it’s laughable to me people think Wong jack man beat Bruce 4 years later. It’s ridiculous. You should pick up wrath of the dragon: the real fights of Bruce Lee.

Just want to say, I appreciate your contributions to this topic. You provide one of the most comprehensive and honest research I've ever seen on the topic of Bruce Lee history.

One of the most amazing things about Bruce Lee that I’ve seen were physicists analyzing footage of Bruce Lee’s demonstration. Through his philosophy in martial arts he figured out how to use general relativity to his advantage. If you could find those videos and do something about that, I’d love it.

I enjoyed this and learned a lot, keep up the good work! Been a fan of Bruce Lee since 1972. That's some serious staying power, never get tired of Bruce Lee.

Bruce will never get old 🐉 shannon said she felt bad for Wu jack man she said he had nothing against her father. It was the elders who pick him to fight Bruce. And he became apart of history

@cuzz63

2 ай бұрын

No elders picked WJM...he accepted Bruce's challenge.

According to John Little's book "Wrath of the Dragon," Bruce actually knocked Garie Elms down 3 times, probably why the paper said Bruce knocked him down, one time in each round and was witnessed by Frank and Rolf Clausnitzer, Rolf was barracking for King George V team and later became a Wing Chun Instructor because of it, saying it was the weirdest, ,most bizzare fight you'll ever see and you'll never see another one like that again. Apparently, the bell went before Garie Elms had regained his feet in the 3rd, hence the unanimous decision. While Bruce was unhappy about not knocking him out, he complained about the size of the gloves. Afterwards, he went and worked on his wrist strength and finished the punch with a snap to increase the power, and as for the Beimo match, apparently, he misinterpreted the rules about defend / attack, as they tossed at the beginning and Bruce had to defend, thinking it was for the whole match, and was going to give up if he had to continue defending, and when told it was only for the beginning and everyone would laugh at him if he gave up, he came out and attacked and slaughtered the guy in the second round.

Best done REAL Bruce Lee video I have ever seen. Usually they are filled with "Bearded Crud" at least you look for the truth. Well done!!!!

Fascinating! An excellent analysis of Bruce's real challenges. Nice shirt. Thanks for all you do

So you have eventually come around to believing he was the real deal and one of the best that ever lived! That makes me happy.

@GoldenbellTraining

Ай бұрын

ummm...what? 🤔

@shamounian

Ай бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining I remember you said in a vid that at the beginning you didn't think much of Lee's abilities. But as you started researching you came to discover he really was that dude, meaning he really was all that they sad he was and more.

Not every boxer has knockout power, even a large strong coordinated boxer, doesn't always possess knockout power, I think its clear, that all that we've heard about Bruce's real fights, he had knockout power, as well as speed, which is even rarer. Pacquiao would be such a boxer or fighter, having knockout power as well as speed.

Your videos always seek to dig up the facts and bury the fictions and that's the difference between your videos and others'. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the amazing video ❤️

Amazing difference from current times... no mention of lawyers. These days, every fight would be accompanied by a lawsuit and all the publicity that would generate. That Seattle fight was one of my favorite sections in Jesse Glover's book that I bought in the '70s. Like 22 seconds is really going to make you less depressed that the true 11 seconds.

Well done :)! I never get tired of watching your videos. But I have to bring something up since it's usually not mentioned: Yoichi Nakachi and his people always denied it was him who challanged and fought Bruce Lee. It's also mentioned on one of his tribut pages. I know almost all Lee-biographers and historians like Matthew Polly or John Little always potray it like it's a fact that it was him, but it's just fair to portray his side of the story too. Fact is: Dont matter if Jesse Glover, Ed Hart or Doug Palmer, when they spoke about this fight on November 1st, 1960 at the YMCA, they never said his name was Yoichi or Nakachi or what ever. They always said "the judo man" or "the karate man", nothing else. For many years his name was spelled "Uechi", but even Lee himself never named him. He wrote in his daytimer something like "karate and judo black belt", but he never mentioned his name. For the extreme Bruce fans: I dont say it wasnt Yoichi! But you always must consider both sides of the pancake, and even if Polly, LIttle and others say it was him, Glover, Hart and Palmer but also Lee himself never named him Yoichi, Nakachi or Yoichi Nakachi. So it is indeed possible this japanese guy was someone else and not him.

@GoldenbellTraining

2 ай бұрын

"Yoiche Nakachi pushed for a fight with Bruce and he got. Bruce knocked him. How do I know this I was the ref and I stopped the fight with Yoiche knocked out on the floor." - Jesse Glover

@chrisbach1533

2 ай бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining Ok thx. Is that from Jesse's "Between WC and JKD book". Well then Jesse named him there. In the doc "Death by Misadventure" he only said "the karate man". Same did Hart and Palmer. But so or so Yoichi and his people always denied it was him. And to be honest: Since even Glover named Howard Hall, Ed Hart, a guy named Masafusa Kimura and some other unkown japanese exchange student as witness, and not one of them besides Glover ever named him Yoichi Nakachi, plus that his name was spelled for decades "Uechi", I wouldnt bet my life it was Yoichi. It was for sure a japanese karate and judo black belt. Lee wrote that down in his notes: "Against Karate black belt holder (Shodan) and 2nd degree black belt in Judo. Place: Downtown Y.M.C.A. (Seattle) Date: 1, Nov, 1960 (Tuesday) Result: won, knock him down in 13. sec; couldn´t fight anymore" - Bruce Lee Not identified as Yoichi Nakachi by Bruce Lee. And usually Bruce named people by name in his notes, see Chuck Norris, Mike Stone, Steve McQueen, James Coburn, Joe Lewis, etc. He also knew the names of Wong Jackman and Lau Daichuen. But for what ever reasons he didnt identified the japanese as Yoichi Nakachi.

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining WOW !

You’ve done it again Prince. Great story.

you have accurate infos and just interpretations. a person like you will surely be pissed by beerdy, b.l. real fights and a lot more. thank you for your high standard research and investigation. i am a hongkonger. i had seen bruce face to face and my elder brother had even touched his steel like abs by invitation. what i want to say is: above mucles, skills and all else, bruce lee has a wonderful, angelic soul. your video here has not overlooked this. very good job.

I read in the Book of Bruce Lee by Linda Lee , about a fight that Bruce Lee had On Enter The Dragon , now it has been a long time since I read that book and it got destroyed in My Fathers Basement , where I had it stored during my Divorce Process , But I read there was one of those workers on that set , wanted to fight Bruce Lee , Linda mention in that section of that book , Bruce Lee generally would like to avoid fights , not because he was afraid , he just like avoiding them , And at one particular time , Bruce Lee was not feeling very well in other words Bruce Lee was sick and that person was not going to Leave Bruce Lee Alone , so that fight happen , and from what I remember reading , There was only One Punch from Bruce Lee , And it busted the Guy's Lip , and that Guy was laying on the Ground , And Bruce Lee was standing over the Guy asking him did he have enough , I guess that guy stayed down , and with Bruce Lee feeling sick , that person mostly said yes and stayed down , I Know I would have , I hope that I wouldn't been that dumb to begin with , now me at 66 , maybe I not remembering it correctly , or I mis read it , But if there is a person , that I could win a fight with one punch it would be Bruce Lee .

Absolutely excellent video, fantastic! Please make an separate and more detailed video on each of these, I would love to see that.

excellent stuff. Amazing how he kept adapting what he learned.

GREAT video,amigo,really enjoying them and learning new things too.I wonder if you'd ever do videos of the making of Lee's films,you know some behind the scenes stuff.

At first I didn't listen very well to this stories about Bruce Lee and as I been following this channel for a while, it definitely gave me a clear evidence that Bruce Lee was murdered just like Martin Luther King Jr. He exposed the hidden secrets of Asian martial arts. Plus never a Chinese will talk about Bruce Lee this good. Really appreciate your channel and keep up the good work of digging out the missing links. Thank you for making the blinds sees again.

Prince, if there is a crown given for telling or exposing the truth, you certainly deserve it. Thank you again for the honesty and attention to detail in the presentation of this excellent video. You absolutely honor Bruce Lee and the Martial Arts World. Keep up the great work and God bless you and your work 🙏 ❤, Tony Walkingstick

Love your videos. Really appreciate how you mention different angles on what might've happened, and then you share details on why you believe what really happened. Nobody's 100% correct on everything, but I at least have faith that you've done your due diligence. Keep up the great work.

Thank you for this. You are doing the memory of Bruce a great service--especially in these current days where so many ignorantly claim he was not a real fighter. I'm curious why you didn't include his fight with the extra during filming of Enter the Dragon. Would that be because these five you include are solely concerning fights that informed his training and progressing philosophy of self-defense? I look forward to watching more of your videos. Again, thank you for keeping it real.

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

yep

I think if Bruce Lee didn't died he would've participated in one or two MMA matches, learn about wrestling and jujitsu, but ultimately think sport was pointless to him. He would coach and train people for the sport, but would be focused learning more fighting styles and improving jeet kune do to the best of his abilities.

@guts7958

2 ай бұрын

He already did learn some wrestling and jujitsu before he died

@alexplayspad

2 ай бұрын

@@guts7958 I know he had some knowledge, but he didn't get too deep in it, and it probably would've peak his interest after the popularity of MMA

@guts7958

2 ай бұрын

@alexplayspad even if he did go deep, doesn't mean he'd compete, Joe said he was more of a teacher then fighter, I go with what you said about him coaching and training others and improving his own style

@alexplayspad

2 ай бұрын

@@guts7958 i think he would do a few fights like in early UFC and pride, no hold bar fight was what he preached and wanted to do. But yeah ultimately be a coach/teacher, be studying new martial arts, and making movies.

@guts7958

2 ай бұрын

@alexplayspad , he probably would have been a promoter or even a host on it, given commentary during the fights

All those infos is also in "Wrath of the Dragon" book, by John Little.

@30plusfitnesstv

2 ай бұрын

It certainly is.

Amazing video Prince!! If anyone is still on the fence that Bruce Lee couldn't ACTUALLY fight, I made a video on my channel of people who saw Bruce Lee fight, and how good he actually was by Eye Witnesses, it's pretty good.

@yagamifire7861

2 ай бұрын

Eye witnesses mean nothing when they're literally all invested in furthering Lee's legend for their own benefit. The man couldn't even throw a good punch. I've no reason to believe he could actually fight. JCVD, Dolph Lundgren and Chuck Norris are all actors with far far FAR more legit credentials than Bruce Lee who has no record at all and nothing ever filmed.

@ov1994

2 ай бұрын

Some of those Bruce Lee detractors say that Bruce Lee's stories are just hearsays, they forget that for example first-hand accounts are not hearsays. When so many many people that did not even knew each other confirmed the same thing when closely meeting Bruce Lee ( his kicking power, his speed, his fighting skills above the ordinary ), that is considered as evidence. They forget that history in general is based in first-hand accounts.

@joelpollardjkd

2 ай бұрын

@@ov1994 Facts!!

Am I the only one that thinks Prince is a damn genius 💯🙏love this guys content and Martial arts. His just my type of friend material and it's hard for me to find friends, would love to sit with him one day chill and pick his genius brain 💫

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

me too..Prince is a 'SHIFU' !! REALLY !!

"Nice t-shirt ❤ Does it come in black?" - Batman

Pls make more elaborate videos on each of these fights 👏👍😍

Mannn ...Prince you are THE BEST...and most entertaining..... Factual accurate respectful but real and SOOOO FUNNY.....SO F'N REFRESHING MAN....Great job Everytime

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

YEP !

Great work.. you always do your homework. And it shows.. stay in the grind. 👌🏿👍🏿🤜🏿💪🏿

Hey Bro!! Absolutely amazing video!! My adopted saying is, "Bruce Lee was who we thought he was". Great context and love the videos playing in the background for more context! If you do the WJM thing it will be 🔥!! Peace!!

AWESOME! I've heard some really outrageous claims about Mr. Lee from fanboys. Getting down to the TRUTH strengthens his legacy for me.

The only channels I have trust in when it comes to Bruce Lee is Golden bell training and Kung Fu Genius channel

You do not want people to know about your victories in fights because that would bring more CHALLENGES!!

2 things that I know for sure. Bruce Lee was the finest example of a martial artist that I have ever seen, and, Quentin Tarantino looks way too much like Bob Hope to not be related to him.🖕

Man this video was fantastic. You are the man Prince. Thanks so much for sharing this great information. Stay blessed. GOD bless you and your family.

Prince, you did your homework! Excellent!

Great video, sir. Thank you for sharing

More superb video knowledge... thank you so very much for putting in the work so the rest of us can become enlightened.

Bro, when were you in Sasebo? I was there 3 years total Navy.

Thank you for your presentation ☺️. It was very good!

@jcmann01

4 сағат бұрын

Back in the 80s, I decided to learn Kung Fu, so I went to Wong Jack Man's Kung Fu studio near Fisherman's Wharf in SF for a few weeks. Sounds ironic because part of the reason Lee fought Wong was because teaching Kung Fu to non Chinese was forbidden? However, the old cliche about BS talks, but money walks is true here. Wong had this Kung Fu school running w about 20-30 students, mostly Chinese. Wong showed me the first part of a Kung Fu set, which was similar to an Ocata. So, I practiced it for two weeks, asking him to show me more, which he refused to do? He kept telling me to practice over and over?Then I started talking to some of the other non Chinese students who had been trying to learn Kung Fu there. One guy had been there 2 years and had only learned 3 or 4 sets?? Seriously? Wong was just taking our money and teaching us almost nothing! Meanwhile, his Chinese students were being taught advanced Kung Fu techniques, sparring, and how to fight with weapons. So, I confronted Wong about this and He told me in broken English, "You don't like what I teach you, then you go somewhere else!" in an angry tone! So, I left his school and never went back. I told one of the other non Chinese students what Wong said and told him that he was wasting his time and money there because Wong wasn't going to teach him much.

Fantastic Video! Looking forward to your deeper dives into Mr. Lee’s real fights. I wish everyone cold read “The Real Fights of Bruce Lee. Excellent book!

I love your channel man, and how you flesh out bruce lee the human and don't indulge in the myth that he became after he died

I just imagine how good the Kung Fu series would have been... with Bruce.

Much appreciation good Sir for the research & effort you put into making this video, well done. Though you didn’t go into the challenges on the sets of “The Big Boss” (Bruce vs Thai Boxer witnessed by many people) & an “extra” on the set of “Enter The Dragon” (also witnessed by many people involved with the film) Your information & sources are correct in accordance with my own research. I don’t know if you’ve covered Bruce’s AGGRESSIVE sparring session with Chuck Norris witnessed by Richard Bustillo who said “Bruce left Chuck’s face red as a tomato” .. I always found that funny 😁

Another absolutely brilliant video! 👏👏👏👏👌Keep them coming!

Go ahead, with your truths of Bruce Lee stories.. you are talented narrator, love listening to your stories

Could you please link a video when the most famous duel between Bruce Lee and Wong Jack-man(?) explained well?

@chrisbach1533

2 ай бұрын

👉There is imo a good vid about it, "the world of boxing bruce lee real fight". About the spelling: It's recommended either Jack-man or Jackman, not Jack Man. Because Jackman is one name and not two seperate names, it was his given/first name.

About Bruce Lee having only two Beimos in Hong Kong, I think this meant two Beimos as observed by Wong Shun Leung. BL might have quite a lot more than that. Actually Man Lan, a childhood friend and cha-cha companion of Bruce Lee, said during an interview (available on youtube some time ago) that she served as the "getaway driver" for Bruce after his fights.

@GoldenbellTraining

2 ай бұрын

Fights that could have happened anywhere, but most likely not beimo.

Why is it called Golden Bell, which I really do have?

@GoldenbellTraining

2 ай бұрын

That's nice 🙂

Anyone that says Bruce wasnt a real fighter..needs to tell that to anyone that knew him personally

Love the channel I took Wing Chun for awhile with Sifu Benny Meng but I had heart problems they made me quit 😢

I would like to know in one of your videos did Bruce ever have a sparing match with Sunny Chiba. I heard that they didn't like each other. Please answer this question in your next commentary or video. Thanks!!!😊

To the best of your knowledge, what age was Bruce Lee when he started his Wing Chun training and how long was he training Wing Chun in Hong Kong. Also how much time was he training at Yip Mans School and how long at Wong Shun Leongs School ??? Id be very grateful for your input. Thank you, Chen 🙏🏼

Great content as always, that phone conversation about Lau reminds me of a phone conversation where Bruce did refer to Won Jack man as the runner. Not sure if its the same phone conversation or not ..

@GoldenbellTraining

2 ай бұрын

Same conversation

Another great video bro! 🔥🫡

Bruce challenged an expert martial artist in a public demonstration. Bruce couldn't get a punch in on him then said he was pretty good at fighting.

Thanks for sharing Prince. 👍🏻👏🏻👊🏻

Great video prince

Prince I am sure knows about Bruce training I do and I started back with the same training I am 70 now.

Very interesting. Curious what style Wong Jackman used. Yes the karate stylist was a second degree black belt. But there would be no doubts about Bruce Lee's skills if he had sparred in a friendly match with some one at the level of Masutatsu Oyama of Kyokushin karate. Or with Chang Tung Sheng a grand master of several Chinese kung- fu styles.

I talked to two of the people that watch the fight in person they told me and toy song, Cantonese language Chinese what happened? I also talk to his sister, his brother and other people.

I enjoy how prince tells the FACTS not tall tales

I just wish i looked as cool with a mustache as Bruce Lee did!

Idk why, but I believe everything you say.

The term "3 legs Lee" came about when he argued with Lo Wei that all he needed was 3 kicks to bring the bad men down Lo Wei wanted the old school flowery kicks like in the Shaw Bros.

Awesome video 🔥🔥🔥💯

I really wish Bruce Lee had competed and showed his fighting skills so people would stop doubting him he was one of the best

@GoldenbellTraining

Ай бұрын

How would competition have allowed him to show his fighting skills?

@ACAC-lb7ux

Ай бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining that's a simple answer

@stevo62ful

18 күн бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining The same way it shows Stipe, Fedor, Cro cop, Jon Jones and countless others show their fightng skills. Why mention the Gary Elms boxing match as a real fight, if competition doesn't show his fighting skills ?

Didn't think you knew about the boxing match, which his brother Robert told Bruce, if he thought he was so tough why don't you enter the boxing contest. Which Bruce did and won. So that's great .that you know this

A very good actor i loved his movies

This was very cool!

Note: legend has it that Bruce Lee was the only one who defeated Chuck Norris

@james1795

2 ай бұрын

HaHa!!!

@yagamifire7861

2 ай бұрын

Chuck Norris would have absolutely murdered Bruce Lee in a fight going by the fact that Lee was never genuinely verified to have fought

@anthonyhairston4050

2 ай бұрын

@@yagamifire7861 NOPE

@yagamifire7861

2 ай бұрын

@anthonyhairston4050 Nope what? By all available evidence? Absolutely. Size, reach, strength....actual record

@james1795

2 ай бұрын

@@yagamifire7861. Dream on.

I personally think the truth about Bruce is far more interesting than the myths ...

A lot of insights here thanks

He's been gone for 50 years and existed at a time when there was little way to prove he was the real deal or not. For a while, people thought Steven Segal was 😂

Great show

Great video!

Thanks!

A lot of why he didn't have professional documentation of fights is most of the time he didn't feel like getting a fight sanctioned so people were betting on the fights he always more about fighter's honor sort of fights

Very interesting!

The secret fight. Thank you. I wonder if at this point, he saw himself in his challenger. Recognized that he just needs more time. No doubt Bruce had been humbled on the warrior's journey/ To get KO'd...Especially back then. I think Bruce had great sympathy. Understood that his victory would be soul crushing. I believe he became more merciful and wise. What I was thinking anyway

Well done bro👍

Thank you James

I'm very much looking forward to more real battle stories from Bruce Lee . I also wonder if you knew about the technical details of these battles? Please don’t forget to Mention me when you show these videos in the future. Please

@axelstone3131

Ай бұрын

Buy John Little’s book wrath of the dragon: the real fights of Bruce Lee

What about Bruce's fights at his home or in his place of training?

what about chuck norris and joe lewis?

@AISEARATOKALAU

2 күн бұрын

Chuck and Joe and the rest of the world knows? were paperwork making money in the business of martial arts. The real champions are those we don't know that created these arts.

LOVE THE SHIRT💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

dude you rock!!!!!!!

Did Lau seriously think hes able to beat Bruce Lee?

@lucianm5459

2 ай бұрын

Can't fault one for being confident even when they face certain defeat!🙌

@russellcampbell3500

Ай бұрын

Every fighter has to have that confidence otherwise going in the ring with a defeatists attitude then you have already lost before any punch was thrown. “ I think therefore I am”. -some guy, lol but true