4L60E High Performance PT1 - Parts Selection and Build Considerations

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In this video (first in a multi-part series), I take you through the parts selection process and cover considerations and tips/tricks for building up a 4L60E for high performance. While it doesn't include every possible upgrade you can throw into one of these things (e.g. Sonnax front billet planetary gear set), it does incorporate a fair amount of them.
Feel free to add anything else in the comments that you think would add value (increase strength, improve shift quality or reduce likelihood of failure) to a high performance build.

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  • @wilragsdale7344
    @wilragsdale73442 ай бұрын

    I’m in love with your vocabulary. You’re so articulate. Your my therapy when I sit on my porch piece by piece going through my high performance 700r4 build.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, man. Appreciate the kind words.

  • @CleanCutLawnsK2
    @CleanCutLawnsK2 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice, Nick. Almost exactly the same recipe I use. You're doing great with these videos.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Kevin!

  • @Roscotech
    @Roscotech2 ай бұрын

    So I recently rebuilt someone else’s “performance” 4L60e. The customer stated that after the truck the unit was installed in sat for a few days it would not go into reverse. Let it warm up to near operating temperature and it would then engage as well as engage every time after as long as it didn’t sit for more than a few days. I took it apart and found damage to the reverse input drum that was causing a sealing issue w the Teflon seals. I put a new AC Delco reverse input drum and a new stator shaft (it and the bushings for the RI were all beat up). Aaaaaanyway the transmission was set up pretty much as the one you have outlined. I would say 95% so, but I found something interesting that I had not seen before. The input shaft and the stator shaft were from a later model meaning an exciter on the input shaft and a pocket on the stator for an ISS even though it was not wired or otherwise utilized. Finally to my point…..there was a very fat plastic bushing between the reverse input drum and the back of the stator! Probably twice or even close to three times as thick as a factory piece. I have read that there can be upwards of 0.225 clearance between the two in a factory setting and that it is normal and shouldn’t be a cause for concern. It does however seem that tightening that clearance up (if it is in fact that much) might be beneficial in a high RPM situation. I don’t know who makes it but I have been on the lookout.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    2 ай бұрын

    Interesting find! Perhaps you can do a video on it if you still have the part and upload to KZread...I'd be curious to see what it is/looks like and how it works.

  • @44blanco
    @44blanco Жыл бұрын

    Another great video from this knowledgeable kid Can’t wait for the rest of the videos Nick on this High Performance transmission Build 110% satisfied with this video

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Adolfo!

  • @doctorwebinstein4101
    @doctorwebinstein4101 Жыл бұрын

    Well presented and explained as always thanks for the transmissions you rock !

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Doc!

  • @Roscotech
    @Roscotech2 ай бұрын

    I have also seen availability of a reverse input drum that is machined to accommodate a bushing that protrudes slightly to center and accept a Torrington bearing between the drum and stator! Thereby FULLY rollerizing the internals

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi Ross, yep you can rollerize the front thrust using a machined reverse input drum or you can use a bushing from a 200-4R that protrudes slightly above the surface of the direct drum, which will allow you to add a bearing there as well. I believe it's a TH350 pump thrust bearing and you orientate it so the black side of the bearing faces the pump to avoid exposing the bushing to the part of the bearing that rotates with the drum.

  • @hybridmusclegarage4590
    @hybridmusclegarage4590 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Thanks for the video!

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, HMG!

  • @edwardhrvoich1786
    @edwardhrvoich1786 Жыл бұрын

    Nick, awesome job on the videos ! Not only this one but ALL videos that you do . A very meticulous and descriptive narration on the most correct way to do it ! . An off topic question, In some of your videos you can hear airplanes in the background . May I ask what airport you are near ? I have an extensive aviation background and always curious about airplanes and airports in general.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Edward - I appreciate the kind words!

  • @papergatorzfedducca7998
    @papergatorzfedducca7998 Жыл бұрын

    In the future can you do a thorough inspection video on 4l60e and 4l80e? That’ll be so dope!!!🔥🔥🔥

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Here you go (4L60e): kzread.info/dash/bejne/iamIupqnaLW8dag.html I'll film the next 4L80E that comes in for tear down and inspection.

  • @papergatorzfedducca7998

    @papergatorzfedducca7998

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nickstransmissions thank you🔥🔥🔥

  • @longlivechina7538
    @longlivechina75382 күн бұрын

    Hey Nick, I installed the 4l65e back in to my H2 Hummer! Runs great expect at 45 to 50 MPH the needle on the tachometer studders like jumps up and down. I have to give it some more gas to power through. Why do you think that is happening? Thx!

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    2 күн бұрын

    Erratic speedometer behavior at those speeds is likely vehicle speed sensor/wiring to the speed sensor - check the wiring; if good, install a new VSS. If your engine itself is stumbling or hesitating at those speeds and beyond, check fuel delivery systems for weakness (pump, FP regulator, etc). Honestly, could be any number of things with or beyond the transmission. Plug a scan tool capable of rendering live data and bring up engine and transmission data streams and make note of what you see in the data when you hit those speeds...Perhaps have a helper watch the scanner while you drive or vise versa.

  • @rksg2003
    @rksg2003 Жыл бұрын

    Nick thanks for another video great job! If you were building a GM street/strip transmission 350/400/700 would you choose Raybestos Red frictions over Alto Reds?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Bee Gee...I would as I generally don't use alto reds too often. Borg Warner or Alto high energy frictions are also a good choice for street/strip.

  • @jmachjmach2003
    @jmachjmach2003 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video. I like your no nonsense approach to this type of work. I have a quick question. I know you have said before to leave the 3-4 clutch springs out if not doing a performance build. Is it okay to leave them out if not doing a performance build and using the Transgo 7-CS spring kit?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Jay...It's up to you if you want to include or leave them out but my general guidance is that if you set the clutch clearance down below .035", keep them in. Otherwise you can leave them out. That applies to any type of build when it comes to the 700R4 or 4L60E.

  • @jmachjmach2003

    @jmachjmach2003

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nickstransmissions Thank you for the information. Keep up the great work.

  • @jchaire3622
    @jchaire36222 ай бұрын

    Got a dumb question....I have a machined empty front cover. Turned mine in to a machine shop as a core a month ago. What's the best way to find out what boost valve length is needed?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    2 ай бұрын

    You can purchase a 2nd design boost valve/sleeve kit along with the accompanying spacer that Sonnax sells that allows you to install that 2nd design kit into an earlier pump cover that otherwise came with a first design boost valve/sleeve from the factory. I believe the change over was in either mid-2006 or 2007...

  • @bigblockchevelle72
    @bigblockchevelle725 ай бұрын

    great video, just curious what you think of the sonnax 2.84 ratio input carrier? Is it worth the money to do this?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Kevin! The Sonnax planet set is worth it if drag racing, especially if you're having trouble getting all the power to the ground at take off and/or seeing the engine fall flat on its face on the 1-2 upshift.

  • @harrisonjbo6058
    @harrisonjbo60587 ай бұрын

    Great video!! My transmission just went out in my camed Chevy. How much would this build cost ?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Harrisonjbo! Builds like this with billet shafts and specialized drums are often north of $4k.

  • @robertshafer6168
    @robertshafer6168 Жыл бұрын

    Would this transmission be over kill for 500 hp at the crankshaft I'm assuming you were referring to 650 hp at the wheels in the video

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    No, it would be fine and the vehicle mentioned in the video is making 650hp at the crank. If that was 650 hp at the wheels, I'd opt for a Sonnax billet steel front planetary gear set as well.

  • @robertshafer6168
    @robertshafer6168 Жыл бұрын

    When you install a built transmission like this what needs to be done to the computer. Does it need to be tuned?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    Жыл бұрын

    Computer will definitely need to be tuned for the engine; depending upon how the vehicle is being used, it may be prudent (or even necessary) to apply some tuning to the transmission as well.

  • @corbettknowles9942
    @corbettknowles99423 ай бұрын

    Actually tore down 700r4 last year that had bad low revers it had mircofracturing in the area where out put shaft goes thru transmission was gm reman unit it has suffered from overheating and lubrication failure

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing and watching, Corbett! Good call checking the rear of the case...Anytime I have low reverse failures, I'll closely inspect that area once the case comes out of the jet wash.

  • @corbettknowles9942

    @corbettknowles9942

    3 ай бұрын

    I caught failure on mild rebuild customer that transmission had sat for about 7 years wanted transmission gone thru they were rebuilding a 86 pontiac transam firebird I normally don't do carry outs for obvious reasons but since it was a close friend I done that one

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, good catch for sure. You never know what you might find when you open up one of these things.

  • @corey3447
    @corey34476 ай бұрын

    Very informative ( I mainly do engine stuffs). Would you or how much would you beef up a transmission for a 2010 5.3 with an LS6 cam with a TBSS intake? No other major mods. Also 4x4.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Corey! For case improvements I'd install a an 903 Corvette servo, Sonnax smart shell, max pack in the 3-4 clutch and perhaps a front and rear 5-pinion 4L65E planetary carriers set. For hydraulic improvements, pretty much the same stuff I do for most of these units, but exactly what I would do would largely depend on how the vehicle was going to be used (i.e. just daily driver, street strip, racing, heavy duty towing/hauling, etc) and converter stall.

  • @corey3447

    @corey3447

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nickstransmissions very grateful for such a quick reply. Daily Driver/rare fun.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    6 ай бұрын

    You're welcome (I happen to be sitting in front of my computer today and see the alerts pop up on the screen). What stall speed is your converter?

  • @corey3447

    @corey3447

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nickstransmissions it's a factory 4x4 V8 truck. According to a local trusted mechanic, it has the same converter as the trailblazer ss which he says is 1600 to 1800 higher than the 2x4.

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    6 ай бұрын

    The trailblazers had a TC stall of around 2000-2200 or so. I'd download Transgo's instructions for their HD2 shift kit off their website and follow their guidance for separator plate feed hole sizes however DO NOT drill the AFL balance or TCC regulator feed holes at the bottom left area of the spacer plate unless you actually install their shift kit, including the white inner AFL spring and blue TCC regulator spring in the valve body...If you're not planning to install their kit, drill the feed holes for the 1-2 shift .076-.080 if using a corvette servo, 2-3 shift, 2-3 accumulator (aka band release) and 3-4 shift to .093. If you want firmer apply in manual low and reverse, drill the L/R feed to .080-.086 and remove the low reverse check ball. Otherwise, keep it in and leave the feed hole alone. If the 4th gear shift is too soft, simply block off the 4th accumulator feed in the case using a cup plug and leave the spring, piston and pin out of the 4th gear accumulator bore. You can watch my 4L60E valve body tips and tricks for more details, if you haven't already: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lYWHxsuYhsusp7w.html

  • @steveb4762
    @steveb476210 ай бұрын

    Nick, do you do Allison's? Video(s) suggestion?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    10 ай бұрын

    Hi Steve, I actually haven't been into Allisons just yet but may in the fall...Those transmissions are generally very resilient and don't need overhaul all that often and when they do, most will seek a good used unit for 1-2 grand vs shelling out the 5k+ for an overhaul...There's a video on YT called something like 'The best Allison 1000 Rebuild on KZread'...I haven't watched it but the thumbnail looks neat, haha. That's the only one I'm aware of off the top of my head.

  • @Shalash87
    @Shalash878 ай бұрын

    Sonnax six-pinion front planet? 3-4 Z-pack?

  • @nickstransmissions

    @nickstransmissions

    8 ай бұрын

    Avoid the Zpack, it's not my favorite for anything high performance as the individual plates are too thin and don't withstand heat very well from what I've seen...Run an Alto or Raybestos Max pack using Alto Reds or Kevlar-impregnated HEs, Raybestos Blues, GPZ or Stage Ones w/Kolene coated steels or Borg Warner 4L65E clutch pack with lindered steels (same as Kolene) instead. Six pinion planets are great for racing as they narrow the stupidly wide ratio between 1st and 2nd gear but if you're not racing (or the primary use is street driving) they're not mandatory. Please give a thumbs up if my info is helpful; if not, please let me know what can be done differently. TIA

  • @Shalash87

    @Shalash87

    8 ай бұрын

    @@nickstransmissions The info is invaluable! Really thanks a lot. I used to watch Richard's Precision Transmissions, and they treated all their units with the Z-pack and wide band. Alas, that channel went dormant (I think they had some family feud that closed the business...). If you get a chance to do some of the old stuff, like the FMX - that would be great!

  • @justaguy2360
    @justaguy23605 күн бұрын

    Capsule

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