I just moved recently and the community I live in now has a theater room residents can use for themselves. This is going to be one hell of a homecoming for spring break 😈

@SomeoneOnlyWeKnow.

16 күн бұрын

That is so cool

We just need the cerveza cristal cut now

@thatoneshortboi

4 ай бұрын

Fr

These are probably better than any official version we would get anyway.

@thefullmetaltitan9732

Ай бұрын

Definitely. Both 4K77 and 4K83 look about as great as official classic film restorations to my eyes. Couldn’t ask for anything better. 4K80 probably still needs some work (especially with the colors). But I still 100% prefer that over any of the official releases.

I treasure my 2006 original trilogy DVDs that have the old theatrical versions as bonus discs.

@darthmop1

4 ай бұрын

the only DVDs in my Blu-Ray collection

@dannypoo3281

4 ай бұрын

I ripped my 2006 DVD's and converted them to MKV while using a light "unsharp mask". I also cropped out the unnecessary black borders so that it could fill most of my tv screen and I got to say, with the "unsharp mask" filter, it looks pretty nice! I think I'd probably prefer the restoration projects, but watching the versions on the DVD has its own fun retro vibe.

@SniffHeinkel

4 ай бұрын

@@dannypoo3281I also ripped them using MakeMKV and then upscaled them to 1280x720p with Handbreak. Nothing against Harmy's versions, but I dislike how they include his name in the credits as if he had something to do with the creation of these films.

@blebcat

4 ай бұрын

@@dannypoo3281So... you zoomed in and cut out like 25% of the image?

@dannypoo3281

4 ай бұрын

@@blebcat No, not everyone is aware of this, so forgive me if I'm saying something you already know, but the theatrical editions on the 2006 DVD's have not only the black bars at the top, but also on the left and right sides when viewed on a television. Almost like a zoomed out picture. They're basically a 2.35:1 picture inside of a 4:3 box. All that black empty space can be cropped when converted so that it will fill the TV screen.

"For those who remember, for those who will never forget, and for a whole new generation who will experience it for the very first time!" That's the opening statement from the trailer for the 1995 VHS set, which now rings truer than ever!

I adore my 1980’s laserdiscs of the original trilogy. I should check out the 4K80

I became a Star Wars fan in 2006. The special editions are all I know. I knew about the original versions and have seen some unaltered scenes on KZread but never had the chance to watch the full original cuts. I'm incredibly excited to binge the original trilogy, as it was released, for the first time ever!

Awesome video HelloGreedo!! The 4K80 team definitely deserves massive props for all the work they put in to rescuing this film. Apologies on the heavy compression on that progression video. I promise the actual release is much, much sharper. Looking forward to your documentary!

I'll never understand why Lucas couldn't just release the theatrical release versions under a different name if he was so concerned with maintaining 'his vision'. For those interested in the current canon, they can simply purchase the modern looking 'Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope' etc For those wanting a copy of the film that changed cinema forever, imagine finding a copy simply called 'STAR WARS' or for the sake of a marketing compromise 'Star Wars 77'' (The original Theatrical Release). Oh well..

@Connor17199

4 ай бұрын

In an ideal world we'd have that, but also with an option for the stereo and mono versions since they're both theatrical versions and quite different to each other.

@gr-8166

4 ай бұрын

If only you knew Irwin Kershner wanted Cloud City and the Wampa creature… those major changes were meant to also appeal to Irwin from Lucas. In a video regarding to the special editions he called Irwin and said, “remember the wompa you wanted? It’s in the film now” (paraphrasing). I guess you can enjoy an older version from a preservationist standpoint, but people like myself who prefer the author’s full authority of their own vision, I’m quite happy with it. On the topic of restorations Lucas did talk about them in the Archives book of the prequels by Tatschen and it’s said the restoration is needlessly expensive for the older films and to get a “true” restoration would be impossible. What the fans had done is implement a series of stitches of film sewing into a major piece called the unaltered films and eventually creating a Frankenstein’s monster of a feature. Not considered as a negative but also not considered pure compared to Kino Lorber’s Metropolis or Criterion Collection’s the Kid.

@grathem9789

4 ай бұрын

@@gr-8166 " I guess you can enjoy an older version from a preservationist standpoint, but people like myself who prefer the author’s full authority of their own vision, I’m quite happy with it." Doesn't give lucas the right to deny people the older versions and misses the point of film preservation and whether or not the author's vision is good or not (SE) is a debatable topic. "On the topic of restorations Lucas did talk about them in the Archives book of the prequels by Tatschen and it’s said the restoration is needlessly expensive for the older films and to get a “true” restoration would be impossible. What the fans had done is implement a series of stitches of film sewing into a major piece called the unaltered films and eventually creating a Frankenstein’s monster of a feature. Not considered as a negative but also not considered pure compared to Kino Lorber’s Metropolis or Criterion Collection’s the Kid." Umm you are forgetting that They spent millions of dollars restoring the original negatives and films in the 1997 re-release for the OT and made there money back, $20,000,000 to restore the negatives and made it back in the theatres with over $138,000,000 and thats not including Home Media sales, why cant they do that for the Unaltered Versions? Much older films like the Godfather and 2001: A Space Odessy had their film negatives worn down by time and yet there can be restored in a modern format and not have them being tinkered with or even changed why can't something as culturally significant as Star Wars have the same treatment? There is a authentic restoration and that is Mike Verta's Star Wars restoration but is afraid to show it, and even if the Despecialised Editions and even Project 4K77 are not fully authentic they are all coming from a place of the heart, the love of this franchise and a effort to at least attempt to preserve these films and give people a choice and a chance to see how it was during 77, 80 and 83 which Lucas could not do and for me that shows the true dedication of these people.

@jamescarter3196

4 ай бұрын

@@gr-8166 "the author's full authority of their own vision" is just a silly thing to say when those movies weren't really 'his vision' in the first place, and it's solely an act of drinking the Lucas Kool-Aid to believe he even came up with the majority of good ideas in the films. George's greatest creation is his mythology of himself as the hero of Star Wars, and it's as laughable as believing Luke Skywalker is real. He couldn't make those films great by himself, and he didn't. You're saying you want to see the 'whatever George wants' version no matter how bad it is, and you're having to ignore that most of what we see in the films wasn't anything he imagined by himself. He came up with a few good ideas, he kept working to get the films done, but it's just wrongheaded to pretend like it's all 'his vision' and the shitty prequels and shitty special editions are all the proof of that we need.

@grathem9789

4 ай бұрын

@@jamescarter3196 sorta agree

As long as it takes you to make this documentary we know it will be worth it. It really goes without saying but thank you for being a fan of the franchise that is willing to be reasonable more than disagreeable.

This makes me so happy! This makes Star Wars special again.

Watching that a-wing model brings back such fond memories from the early 90's! Remember how in the x-wing videogame there was a mission editor? I'd spend hours planning my missions. Then I would play with the A-wing..the fastest ship and the hardest one to pilot. Omg so many years have passed. Oh the joy!

Has anyone who's seen it think it's grainier than 4K77 and 4K83? I understand it's probably why it took so long to process everything and why they're making a version 2, but I just wanted to double check with everyone! It's still very watchable and I've been dying to see it for half a decade

@jalenjohnson1662

Ай бұрын

I just watched it this weekend and it’s not just you. From what I understand the 35mm print of Empire looked the worst of the trilogy. It took a lot of work just to get it to the point that it is now. 4K77 and 4K83 have multiple versions that provide tweaks like DNR. They haven’t gotten around to doing that for 4K80 yet. Just keep an eye out for upcoming versions that I’m sure will clean up the image and hopefully get this film to the same level of quality as the other two.

@Manco654

Ай бұрын

Which versions of 77 and 83 would you recommend? In general I like film grain…

@thefullmetaltitan9732

Ай бұрын

@@Manco654I recommend ver. 1.4 for 4K77 with no DNR (currently the best version until 2.0 comes out.) I haven’t seen 4K83 yet but I’ve heard 2.0 with no DNR is the best one. P.S. I literally just got done watching 4K77 1.4 for the first time and it looks AMAZING. This is the definitive perfect edition of Star Wars I’ve always wanted!

I'm so happy that Team Negative 1's 4K fan-restorations of the original trilogy is finally complete. I wonder when there will be a downloadable Blu-ray iso file for 4K80?

@janterrirocks

Ай бұрын

David Kaylor made some nice ones for all 3. Compete with menus and chapters as well!

Been following these projects since I learned about them from your channel. So cool.

Thanks for giving this project another shoutout. I’m stoked I get to watch the “originals” for the first time!

Now we need the prequel trilogy's theatrical version!

@erniemeyer1342

4 ай бұрын

Of course that is at least as important as with the Ot!!

@Detaleader

4 ай бұрын

They're already preserved by fans actually!

@Detaleader

4 ай бұрын

Something worth pointing out is also this: Scanning film reels for AOTC, ROTS only makes limited sense, since they were recorded digitally and are capped at that resolution. The 4k edition officially released is already an upscale. TFA, TLJ and TPM were recorded on film and then distributed to cinemas on film. They are more likely to benefit from the treatment the OT got. IIRC the standalone movies were shot digitally and TROS wasn't released in 35mm for theaters.

@DC3328

4 ай бұрын

I never want to see original phantom menace yoda again

@gabrielvieiraramos8530

4 ай бұрын

@@DC3328 Yoda in TPM is really awfull, as well as Palpatine hologram in ESB and even ghost Anakin in ROTJ (theatrical releases). However we are discussing about theatrical versions restored, no matter if the original scenes are bad.

This reminds me of getting the opportunity to see Lawrence of Arabia in 70mm print, at my cinema in Dublin. It was such an awesome experience. I hope I can get the chance to see these restorations soon.

I am looking forward to seeing the long form documentary you mentioned! Thank you.

I need to know where to watch 4K80 as soon as possible!!

It's a great restoration and following the forums over the past few years I'm excited to see what the Australian print will be like. I think I've watched Empire hundreds of times whilst doing it. The current Fuji print looks great but it does have some flaws to it which for the most part have been fixed and unfortunatly some color correction work done early on was baked in which would require redoing the cleanup to fix. I hope that one day I'll be able to see these thing projected on the big screen though I guess my 4k OLED will suffice for now.

Sweet! The only thing that could make these projects better? Cerveza Cristal!!! 😁

Seems pretty cool, gonna check it out soon

I love the fresh scans before the doctoring. Vaporwave Star Wars is gorgeous 😍

Damn, that video idea sounds incredible, I'd love to see where it goes

I might wait for v2 before trying to download, but it's awesome that 4K80 is finally done! It's been way too long since I just sat down and watched any Star Wars film. Time to fix that

Yes!

I'd love to see that documentary. I'm fairly young (28) but I grew up on the original releases too via the 1990 CBS box VHS set. I still have that set, even though I no longer own a VCR. I'd love to see you dive into the world of fan restorations.

@neoPeake

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t say 28 is fairly young😂

@MrPoeGhost

4 ай бұрын

@@neoPeake Most people above the age of 40 would disagree.

After watching you for 10+ years, it’s nice to see that you are getting the unaltered versions you grew up with

Hype! Been waiting on this one for a while

THANK YOU

My biggest problem with the Harmy Despecialized editions is their omission of the Cerveza Cristal.

@worstusername22

8 күн бұрын

Huh?

Now we can see emperor Monketine himself in ep 5, when he talks to vader in all of his holographic glory!

The 4K80 team deserves all the praise! It is a sight to behold! Hoping someone with the ability puts V1 through a LIGHT DNR pass soon. It looks really incredible, just still a few too many visible scratches and dirt for my liking (unavoidable with a print in the shape it was in). The ideal would probably be something like the in-process V2. V1 has some amazing detail and the color grade is top notch!

We will watch your career with great interest

Where, when, and how do i watch these?

Where can we watch these?

I really want to see that fan documentary.

Where watch?

Where can I watch them?

You're alive!!!

Holy shit this took forever to come out. So long in fact, that I thought it had already come out XD I remember following 4K77 as it was coming out.

Disney's streaming editions are sleek and impressive, but there's no reason for an 80s film to not look like an 80s film. We don't scrub Ferris Bueller's Day Off or When Harry Met Sally or The Thing. These fan edits are staying on my Plex server forever, I don't feel the need to watch Star Wars any other way beyond curiosity / comparison.

So I need to register on that forum to download it?

Where are they finding the prints?

How do you watch??

I can't wait

Where can get these?! I want one!!

How do I watch these?

Where and when?

Greedo, please do a comparison video on the stero and mono versions of ANH. Both released in 1977 but they have different dialogue, voice actors and sound effects

I tried to register on this forum but you need an invitation code. Someone know how to get one? I would also pay money to see 4k77 and 4k80 😢

Fortunately I already have the original trilogy's theatrical versions (from Harmy) and the 2004 DVDs version.

Does it have blood when the Imperial officers get shot during A New Hope

YES! Please.

Where can I get these bruh

Where can I get these?!?!?!

Hell yes

You guys are heroes ❤

Dang it! Just finished my rewatch with 4k77, Disney’s ESB 4K, and 4k83. Wish I would’ve known this was just around the corner considering how great their other projects turned out!

@Maximusg400

4 ай бұрын

Nah.. don’t be weak ;3 binge the whole original trilogy again 😂Jk Jk

@TheSauciest

4 ай бұрын

@@Maximusg400 Tempting with the prequels up next, but I might just wait for that V2 release

@Maximusg400

3 ай бұрын

@@TheSauciest ay bro whatever floats your boat I guess. Right?. Lol

Quick note on the aussie print: The scan still has yet to be completely downloaded by the restorationists in the UK and US, due to its massive uncompressed file size. There was a short preview snippet of the Aussie print, but it got immediately overshadowed by a certain other print that, while fascinating, has its own separate project due to being a slight variant of the movie and being cropped to 2.21:1 😉 and on v2.0 versions in general: 4K83 2.0 is out, with a new restoration from the same Interpositive print scan, and work on 4K77 2.0 has been rekindled by a new Two-Pass HDR scan of the LPP print used for the Silver Screen Edition.

is it free to download

okey nice... but where can I watch the versions??

@jordanforbes149

Ай бұрын

You’re not allowed to say where to get it or link it on KZread because its legality is dubious but if you google around you might be able to find it

I actually like the official version of ESB but 4K80 would be really neat to see when it comes to feeling classic.

Nice

How do you watch these?

@RootinrPootine

4 ай бұрын

Can’t tell you. It’s illegal

That shirt is badass

I would go through the trouble of breaking out my Laser Discs of the original trilogy rather than watch those special editions because I want what i grew up with. I rewatch Star Wars at least once a year and with 4K77 I don't have to lug out the LDs and then the dreaded flipping over and changing discs to watch my favorite movies.

As much as I hate every change George made, these guys have to put in Kenobi's chest of beer in ANH!

I actually prefer the raw versions as I actually watched all three in the cinema when they were first released. Just my personal preference.

Without the lapti nek song number in RotJ.

I still don't get why Disney/Lucasfilm doesn't just release an official version of this.

@SithDestroyerVideoProductions

4 ай бұрын

I’m fairly certain Lucas had some part of the buyout contract stating they couldn’t. Because there’s no way they wouldn’t have done it after all these years when EVERYONE wants the original cuts.

@noahbaerveldt8162

4 ай бұрын

I could be mistaken, but I remember reading somewhere, back when the edited versions were released, that said he actually edited the masters so as to make it impossible to re-release the original cuts. Not sure if that was true. I hope it is not.

@alucard624

4 ай бұрын

@@noahbaerveldt8162 Knowing Lucas it's probably true. Glad I still have the 2006 DVD releases at least. They're not perfect but at this rate that's all we have besides the VHS releases.

Would love to see a interview with harmy

4K80 1.0 was what I downloaded, and it's just as gorgeous, if not moreso, than 4K77.

I love that the real versions of these important, influential movies have been preserved despite Lucas's bizarre intentions.

Hello HelloGreedo

hilarious shirt

How about the Star Wars trilogy with no special effects at all?! I'm talking blasters just making pop sounds, David Prowse voicing Vader, 3PO voice muffled, fighting with sticks...

Will they release the deleted scenes of the original versions of the Trilogy like the Jabba scene or no?

@ethanshackleton

3 ай бұрын

They scanned cinema reels, so anything that didn’t make the cinematic cut won’t be in there

@tatumchristopherswanson

3 ай бұрын

@@ethanshackleton oh, that’s a shame.

I'm so fucking happy😊😊

Star wars minute shirt 🤟🤟🤟🤟

FINALLY. I've been waiting for this. I have 4K77, 4K83, and the Harmy restorations. I'll never watch the special editions ever again.

So wait, does this mean the first three movies are entirely despecialized and released in 4K?! Or is it just the Empire Strikes Back?

@TonyZi

4 ай бұрын

4k77 and 4k83 has been available for years already.

@stormcutter59

4 ай бұрын

@@TonyZi Ah thanks man! I've been searching FOREVER for info about this!

@TonyZi

4 ай бұрын

@@stormcutter59 from what I have heard there are now 2.0 versions out.

I always want to experiance true Empire Strikes Back. This is it!

I grew up with the unaltered trilogy, but now i dont care for it anymore to be honest, is my way to see it

🥰

All we need now is for them to release the 70mm version of Empire they found which had a few differences from the 35mm version that was more widely available Edit: turns out that fans already found a copy before I wrote this!

I'm not sure why anyone would bother with this Empire is the most equivalent to the original film of all the OT. All the large changes in the special edition make the movie better.

HOLY FUCK

Does anyone know the actual reason why Disney won't release the original versions since they should have the power to do so with the Fox acquisition? I mean we know why George wouldn't but his opinion doesn't really matter anymore. Seems like an easy way to make some cash

Not related to the video. I’m here for the Dragon Ball fans as Dragon Ball took a lot of inspiration from Star Wars when Toriyama expanded the Cosmic Lore of Dragon Ball. I hope you are all doing well after hearing about the passing of a man who loved Star Wars more than any of us would expect, and other science-fiction stories like The Terminator combined with his Mythical Martial Arts Fantasy Adventure story. Akira Toriyama is with Shenron now, running down Snake Way hoping that we’ll meet again soon for one last Grand Adventure.

Are any of these available in HDR?

@rickwj324

4 ай бұрын

No...not at this time. The 4K footage looks great though

I just downloaded the trilogy in 4K and it is amazing! 👍🏻👍🏻

@brendan9286

4 ай бұрын

where can you download/watch it?

So sad that true fans have to do this instead of the original unaltered trilogy just being the only version!!!!

@ethanshackleton

3 ай бұрын

You do realise that Jabba goes from human in episode 4 to Hutt in episode 6? That’s a major continuity error and the lightsabers looked terrible.

if a, although very talented and skilled, group of hobbyists could pull this off I wonder why Disney hasn't put in the effort to do this themselves even if it would involve scouring the globe for prints, the amount of money they'd make from Cinema, Blu-ray and streaming re-releases would justify it surely. As well as Lucas being out the picture.

No, they are not lost. I've got the original Star Wars on мау PC, Google Drive and torrents. Yes, they are not 4K, but they are original. And I don't care, they are not "official"... I have the real Jabba, as a human... And the cardboard rebels, at the end of New Hope. Don't say that isn't the original Star Wars. I justice have them, and I am proud of that. How I have them... It Dson't matter. I just have them. Disney, Please, don't sue me. I didn't get any profits from them... I just got them.... Because I am a FAN.

I prefer the special editions. I know. I'm a terrible person. lol. this is cool as shit tho

I'd give anything for them to release these versions officially. They never will, but as someone who 'hates' the end of ROTJ where they impose Haydens face onto the original actor, if only for the fact I feel like his appearance is being lost to time. I also have issue with it thematically and just in general but it is what it is.

My pipe dream of an official release still exists. If Disney announced a special Skywalker Saga 50th anniversary box set with not just the theatrical cuts and current special editions of the original trilogy, but every different version of episodes I-VI ever released updated and restored to 4K, with all the special features from every previous release also included, I could die happy in that moment. As well as when I get my hands on it. I want to see Phantom Menace puppet Yoda in 4K.

@hollyboomagoo69

4 ай бұрын

It’s nearly impossible ,Lucas still owns the OT and the characters. Disney will never buck up to pay him to use the rights, which is why Luke was barely in the first movie and why they killed the OT trilogy characters off asap, lol

George lucas started changing star wars 50 days after its release. There is no original, but this is still super cool that we've preserved a puece of history nonetheless