I went from 24" 1080p to 27" 1440p and I don't think I'll ever go bigger, personally I find 27" to be almost too big but also kinda perfect size, I feel 32" would just be too big for me, I think I'll be running 1440 for the foreseeable future, the only upgrade ill do in the future is going from 180hz to 360hz+ when the tech is there and graphics cards can actually make those numbers at 1440p

@jokur7

4 күн бұрын

so... 2 years after this, are you still on 27" 1440p? or you did go bigger?

720p because you only have integrated graphics

@chronology556

2 жыл бұрын

You can buy a 19” 1280x1024 Monitor will display 720p (with letterboxing.) natively.

@nathansstuff1547

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like 1440p is perfect for you.

@slickdurden

11 ай бұрын

768p

@irun2sanaxox

8 ай бұрын

@@slickdurdeni have that at 32 inches lol

@hermit1255

6 ай бұрын

Even then sheesh

This is the best monitor round up I've seen so far! Especially explaining where the 21/9 displays fit in. Well done, big fan of your work!

Great video! Nice breakdown. This info woulda been golden when I first started looking at monitors two years ago, but your videos back then still helped alot. This vid is next level helpful and really puts the current monitor offerings in a nice perspective even for those like me that follow the channel regularly. You’re a gem!

1080p 24" 120-144hz can happily be recommended for budget! If you plan on upgrading later, you're basically shopping for your second monitor first. :D

@sascenturion

2 жыл бұрын

I like that analogy! 😄👍

@WamblyHades

2 жыл бұрын

Lol that's true

@Spido68_the_spectator

2 жыл бұрын

Got MSI Optix G241 for 180€ :)

@Jolbulka

2 жыл бұрын

Did exactly that with 27 1080. Now I have both 1080 144 an 1440 144 :)

@af4604

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spido68_the_spectator I've got the same one for the same price. it's great for adding a extra display to my gaming laptop!

Going from a 1080p 17" laptop to a 27" 1440p desktop it is absolutely amazing in terms of experience. I have no desire to go to 4K for a long time.

@ayanchatterjee9601

2 жыл бұрын

Yup 24inch to 27inch va curved great experience if ur playing singe player nice looking games rdr2 looks so good i had tn 24inch 😂😂

@NeonXXP

Жыл бұрын

I felt the same way when I made that jump. I just want more frames now, 144Hz feels like a limitation with RTX off.

@Farreach

Жыл бұрын

i have a curved 4k monitor and would never downgrade from this ..its just so much superior in my opinion

@dry509

Жыл бұрын

@@NeonXXP Please explain what you mean by more frames and why this helps?

@NeonXXP

Жыл бұрын

@@dry509 Frames per second is the refresh rate 1Hz = 1 FPS. In many games higher frame rates mean faster more accurate information and smoother graphics. Shooting games especially

Ultra wide fills your entire view exactly. It's s great experience. I don't really need very high refresh rates as I mostly just play MMO's. I also do some programming and then the extra real estate is nice for the extra consoles, editors and tools, which often has people use a second monitor instead, but is not really needed with an UW.

Thank you Tim. You covered all the bases in your usual smooth, verbal style. I am waiting to see what formats, at what prices, are going to be offered for 2022. GPU's are finally catching up to Monitor capabilities. Please keep us informed of any outstanding new offerings.

@zakelwe

2 жыл бұрын

Bring bac k 1600 on the Y axis. Cheap skate China going down to 1440 to get more panels. It's wank if you have to do any documents etc.

Went from a 27' 1440p to the Gigabyte M32Q 32' 1440p. I definitely notice the pixels, while not bad, my 27 I replaced was much more beautiful in terms of picture quality. I'd probably go 4k 32' in a few years when the GPU's can actually run it super well.

@LaoShimazaki

2 жыл бұрын

it's mostly due to the anti glare film. i have a glossy 4k 60hz monitor and it looks amazing. / gpu rx 6900xt

@fredfinks

2 жыл бұрын

I run 32" 1440p 16:9. Upgraded from 1440p 27". While the higher DPI on the 27" inch is nice, the extra size is totally worth it. Cant go down. Excellent feature of 32" 1440p is its the exact same DPI as 24" @ 1080p, so everything just works and is readable at default 100% size. Defacto standard for software & web. (There are STILL scaling problems with high DPI 4K screens). Video, games everything is better with the larger screen.

@vxnguyen2334

2 жыл бұрын

@Wizzzard how about price, performance, fps,...????

@LaoShimazaki

2 жыл бұрын

@Wizzzard are you really mentioning that garbage from 2010 as an alternative for video editing displays? you should be the one that needs to wake up. or are you what mentioning their imac 24'? which is also bad for price/quality ratio if you want to do anything apart from excel lol. at least their built in speakers are ok. i will stick with my Dell Ultrasharp U3219Q tho. which blows any imac out of the park.

@rdmz135

2 жыл бұрын

1440p at 32 has the same sharpness as 1080p at 24

Thanks Tim! Pretty much covers all the questions I had!! Got a Gigabyte M32QC 32" 1440p display for less than $300 last spring! I think it's great for my needs! Should be all I need for at least the next few years! 👍😎

@Driftwood420

2 жыл бұрын

I did exactly the same, upgraded from a 27" 1080 144Hz display. It's a brilliant monitor. Don't see me upgrading for a long time 😁

This is a great overview of each monitor resolution and its benefits in terms of resolution vs frame rate along with price! Keep up the great work on awesome content 😎 I was debating on whether to get a 4k monitor or a 1440p monitor with a higher refresh rate for my 3070. I ended up going with the Dell 2721DGF after watching your review awhile back and I LOVE my monitor. It was a good choice to buy. Even comes with some basic HDR400 support, and when paired with Windows 11's Auto-HDR feature it makes games look even better. Even if it's not the best HDR experience overall, it's still nice to have. I love the high refresh rate of 165hz paired with the great resolution of 1440p at a 27" size. It's great for me

Thanks for making it so clear man. I was absolute beginner at this stuff.

When i bought my 1060 6GB three or four years ago, i remember thinking i'd buy a 1440P monitor with the next GPU i'd buy. Still running that 1060 for reason we all know. ..and: The way things are going now we'll likely be running 4K before i'm able to buy a GPU again, so i'll wait and see. Not the best of times for PC-gamers.. Do agree with your thoughts on the matter. For people with the GPU to run 1440P, it is the sweetspot atm.

@joesterling4299

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat, with the same card. I'm perfectly fine with 1080p on a desktop monitor. I prefer higher refresh rates, so I ended up with an LG 27GN750 (because of HUB's recommendation). 240Hz G-Sync compatible, which is my first experience with VRR. There is no going back from here. Everything always looks smooth as silk in motion, with or without vsync. Frankly, I can live with this setup for a couple of more years at least. There are plenty of games in my backlog that run just fine at this resolution with my current system, many of them at over 100 fps. Most new games run very well too. I'll just save Cyberpunk for later.

@Ay-xq7mj

2 жыл бұрын

I run 1660ti and refuse to even upgeade off 1080p 60Hz. If I upgrade it will only hurt me as I am not willing to upgrade with price-performance improvement.

@rinrin4711

2 жыл бұрын

I have LG 1440p 144hz(could be 165hz, but I don't remember), and 1060 6gb runs absolutely fine with most games.

@Ay-xq7mj

2 жыл бұрын

@@rinrin4711 My main issue is better hz = more readable drop in frames by just playing. Personally I am waiting for a bigger leap like oled or such.

@kiwieggcreations

Жыл бұрын

Did you ever end up getting a new GPU?

That's the most straight forward clearest video on monitors I have seen, it answered lots of questions I had been thinking about, thanks

I hope with newer upscaling algorithms from AMD, nVidia and likely also Intel, we will finally reach a point where we can dynamically upscale any output resolution to native resolution, so that we'll be able run games at any custom resolution that gives sufficient performance for our hardware, while making use of 100% of the resolution.

@hern7213

2 жыл бұрын

Please elaborate on that.

@yesyes-om1po

Жыл бұрын

@@hern7213 he probably means to dynamically scale resolution at a target FPS if there is more GPU headroom, I.E supersampling

Excellent opinion piece! i ended up "settling" with the dell S2721DGF and am very pleased. I'm waiting to see what the future has in store before I go to higher refresh or 4K.

@fred_2021

2 жыл бұрын

I've had a pair of those for a yr. To make matching calibration simple, I downloaded 'S2721DGF #1 2020-09-06 20:54 2.2 F-S XYZLUT+MTX.icc' Other settings: Dell Display Manager - brightness 95%, contrast 100%. Dell Onscreen - Gain R 100%, G 100%, B 100% - Offset: R 45%, G 40%, B 50% Best settings depend on ambient lighting, of course, but the above is perfect for me. I briefly considered 4K, but the additional cost inc. GPU outweighed potential benefits. These S2721DGF are among an elite few 16:9 1440p. Well pleased.

Awesome video Tim! Basically covers everything one might think of when getting a monitor. I personally really enjoy 27" 1440p. It offers a lot of desktop real estate. It is fairly performant in gaming, and the size doesn't feel overwhelming at a typical desk distance. I couldn't actually fit anything larger comfortably and the pixel density of 4K at 27"is unnecessary high and the options extremely expensive (2x) in comparison.

The AOC CU34G2X, there 21:9 1440p @144hz, is what I went with as my first monitor getting back into PC gaming after playing on nothing but big flat screen TV's. I totally agree that playing games is super immersive in ultrawide but you have to have the hardware to run it

This video was very useful! I would say it deserves a refresh seeing how things have changed quite a bit!

Good video tim ! I would mention that with ultrawides you can run at 1440P 16:9 with no image quality penalty if you wanted to gain some framerate. iirc except for the samsung monitors the highest 3440x1440 refresh rate is 180hz OC'd on the Acer X34 GS

@PSYCHOV3N0M

2 жыл бұрын

What graphically intensive AAA games at high settings can even reach 180fps at that native resolution (21:9 1440p)??

This is exactly the video I needed! I've been considering upgrading from my 27" 1440p 144Hz to 32" but wasn't sure about resolution at that size. The amount of work and thought you and Steve put into your content is incredible and much appreciated by us! Thank you!

@Anukinihun

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to be honest I feel like it's over blown, I have a 32in 1440p monitor and it looks just as good in my opinion. A good one to look at is the MSI Creator ps321qr which is the monitor I have it's a 1440p 165Hz monitor but can do 4k 60hz if you turn off Vsync it can do 4k 165hz but not as smooth but not terrible. If you habe a good graphic card this is the perfect monitor for you, high fps in 1440p and all the benefits of 4k as well. Sometimes you can catch it for just $400.

@chris9606

2 жыл бұрын

So, are you going 32@4k or 32@1440? Just asking for a friend.

@PaulRohrbaugh

2 жыл бұрын

Went from 1080p to 1440p last January and am very happy with the higher resolution on my Asus tuf gaming monitor. 144 hz vs. 60 refresh rate is amazing difference.

@weecious

2 жыл бұрын

I don't feel like it's "over blown". I've had a 27" 1440p monitor for a while and right now I have multiple 32" 1440p monitors.. they're just as good but better as far as gaming goes IMO.

I'm halfway through the video and I just want to say how much I appreciate you putting Vega 56 as a reference in those charts! Really helpful, and perfect timing! I'm considering buying a new 2nd monitor (since I have a crappy 1080p for that), mainly for productivity, so I just wanted to do some research before looking for a 4k monitor. My main monitor is an XG401 that I'm happy with (for gaming), but I was thinking of turning that into my 2nd monitor (even though the viewing angles kinda suck) and going for 1440p 144hz as my main, even if my current set-up won't really utilize it . I'm thinking that if I just buy a 4k monitor as a secondary, I'll be "stuck" with 1080p and a 4k 60hz monitor if I upgrade down the line. Aaah decisions :p

two days ago I started looking into this because I am considering buying a new monitor, I ended up seeing some not so good info about the whole thing. But now you got me covered! thank you for this video.

Outstanding job, Tim. I completely agree with all of your conclusions. I've been gaming on an LG 32GK650F-B 32" for a little over two years, based largely on your endorsement, and I still love it. At that time, I decided to stay away from 4K due to the higher cost and steeper graphics card requirements, and I plan to do so for an additional couple of years, until the price of 4K monitors and especially graphics cards falls substantially. I do wish the PS5 supported 1440p, but does not so I guess I'll be waiting on that as well. Cheers - enjoyed your interview with Tom at Moore's Law.

@christophervanzetta

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly everything will rise next generation :x

I went from a 27" 1440p to a 38" 21:9 3840x1600. The pixel density here is basically the same, so you get the screen real estate with 0 compromise to image quality. (LG38GN950-B). It was very expensive, but for someone who plays older FPS games (BF4), and Paradox grand strategy games, my 2070 S can still hit that 144hz, and it's definitely worth it. For strategy games in particular, the extra screen size really helps alot 👍

Just switch from the LG27GL850 to the New 4k Odyssey G7 and the amount of upgrade i see is unbelievable. The G7 is an amazing monitor from what i’ve used of it so far. You should make a video on it

@MrMirukou

2 жыл бұрын

Got it too. In some games it feels not as smooth 144hz as in other titles.... or maybe the response times are a bit lower then my old BenQ monitor..... But overall a great 4k monitor with 3080ti

@juicy9592

2 жыл бұрын

It's a mediocre 4k 144hz monitor and multiple brands use it.

So helpful. Most educational video I've seen in tech!!

Excellent video, this will be useful to many people who aren't as deep into monitors. I'd love to see a full review of the BenQ XL2546K.

I went from a 32" 1080p to a 34" 1440p ultrawide. Overall I am happy with the change. It was a massive upgrade and actually leveraged my GPU. Now the only thing I don't like with the ultrawide format is the dodgy support for ultrawide in some titles and the unacceptable letterboxing that happens on some streaming services, looking at you Disney. Although watching 21:9 content on netflix or iTunes is really nice and drives home why I purchased the monitor. I will not be going back down to 1080p ever again. But I am still a few years away from getting hardware that could not get choked down on 4k gaming.

I've been very happy with my 1080p60Hz -> 1440p144Hz upgrade that I made a few years back. My next monitor upgrade will very likely be based on pixel tech rather than resolution. OLED looks really sweet, so I'm keeping an eye out for the day that such monitors - or with equivalent to better tech - become affordable

@oozly9291

Жыл бұрын

Alternatively, you could save up for a year or two and buy a monitor with that technology. Prices are likely to have lowered but with that saved up money you could possibly buy a higher end monitor as well

@BrandonCraig-yi7zu

Жыл бұрын

Im super excited for oled sad that we i will have to wait quite a bit before it can become a consideration for me because oled is quite expensive right now last i heard 1k and up

Talk about thorough. Nicely done Tim.

Thank you, That was very informative! It gave me a lot of answers and now I can better make a decision on what monitor to get! Thank you again!

Answer: All for them, one for each kind of game you play.

@enkvlogs

2 жыл бұрын

Hahah true! At least one 1080p for esports and 1440p for single player games

@Happiness-lp9fw

2 жыл бұрын

Nyo, 1080p with high regresh rate is the way to go 👍🏻

@salted6422

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not really all that pleased of my 1440p@144hz IPS Acer monitor and I think I'll switch back to 1080p@144hz TN Asus monitor because it has better color quality/contrast for competitive games. This IPS panel makes everything so dark I have to sacrifice my eyes by pumping up the contrast and brightness. The TN panel was perfectly fine in CS:GO with ~15/100 brightness and ~25/100 contrast whereas this IPS has to be at least 40/100 and 50/100 contrast with black boost over 5/10.

@andreabeccarisi1126

2 жыл бұрын

Answer: your monitor choice should come AFTER having assessed what gpu you will use. No point in buying a QHD monitor if you have a gtx 1060 that will force you to downscale the game resolution to 1080p. Long story short, the monitor choice should be gpu dependant

@supraman2755

2 жыл бұрын

@@Happiness-lp9fw lmao I read 1080p high regret rate

I'm using a Xbox Series X on a Gigabyte 32" 1440p monitor and everything looks great, it's a shame my PS5 doesn't look as good, I wish Sony would update the PS5 to 1440

@DailyCorvid

2 жыл бұрын

They won't their rendering software works towards 4K or can downsize to 1080p where it needs to.

@tsunamipapi173

2 жыл бұрын

They are actually releasing an update this month to support 1440p.

@chris9606

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsunamipapi173 are they though? We'll see I guess and hope.

@Powerman293

2 жыл бұрын

PS5 has been an absolute DISASTER on the display side of things. No FreeSync, VRR, 1440p, the HDMI port being 32 GBps... the list goes on.

@Powerman293

2 жыл бұрын

@nomasporfavor The more I look at the PS5 the more I think Sony just obsessed over building the best IO on a gaming console ever made... and then forgot to build a well rounded system around it.

Just bought M34WQ from Gigabyte, absolutely loving this monitor, IPS with KVM. Great review from Rtings, but still hoping for you guys to review it, interested in your opinion when it comes to this budged Ultrawide IPS.

3080ti user here. I recently purchased a Asus XG349C as I wanted the best of all worlds. Stunning visuals, high framerates, massive screen real estate. Ultrawide has me hooked!

I'm using 1080p 144hz nice cheap g sync compatible and better than my laptop screen when at home :) I'm using the AOC24G2U

Considering the current GPU prices, 1080p still makes a lot of sense. Besides, and this is something personal - I don't like changing graphics cards that often, so to me, even something like a 6700 XT is only adequate for 1080p, since I'd like at least 100 FPS before considering 1440p, and I want games released in 2024 also work fine, especially if I'd spend 1000$ on a graphics card. So even if 6700 XT can do 1440p well enough today, it might not be able to in a few years, and since it's so expensive, I'd like to keep it for several years before changing it.

@mercurio822

2 жыл бұрын

Went with exactly a 6700xt for 1440p. I want a minimum of 85fps while gaming. I sold my radeon 7 and ended upp with a 6700xt after my old build went to hardware hell. Never buying asus mobo again.

@andydbedford

2 жыл бұрын

A 6700XT will deliver more than 100fps at 1440p, its within a couple of percent of a 2080TI. im using a 6700XT on a 3440x1440 34" inch monitor and its doing a great job. In this video the 12 game average showed at 1440p the 6700XT was hitting 113fps on average.

@mroutcast8515

2 жыл бұрын

in some countries even outside of current market 1080p is the only making sense. Pay more for H/W than western countries, while earning 1/4th or less.

@mirceastan4618

2 жыл бұрын

@@andydbedford It may do so now, but since Cyberpunk 2077 barely runs at 60FPS at High in 1440p, I'm pretty sure most games will be like that 2 years later - this was the case for instance with AC: Unity or Watch_Dogs 2. So yes, it can push these resolutions now, but again, considering it costs an arm and a leg, I'd keep it at least for 3 years if I'd buy one for 1000$. For 500$, it might be somewhat better.

@andydbedford

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirceastan4618 Well of course, thats precisely why we get new gpu's every two years or so otherwise we would only get new hardware twice a decade. I got my 6700XT in october laster year for £635, and I will probably need to upgrade in 2-3 years.

using 34" WQHD right now, and i think 27" QHD are the sweet spot right now, it's crisp. Also, if you use PC for productivity and game but still think of budget, you can use dual monitor setup 1080p and 4K, that dont need high end GPU like 3080 or 6800 to play in 1080p.

I was looking for a content like this, very informative and interesting, thanks for uploading it.

Ultrawide all the way. Once I tried it, I could never go back. Love it for both gaming and productivity. And my Lenovo G34W-10 was very affordable, for what it is. Might not be the best display, but I love it.

@christophermullins7163

2 жыл бұрын

@Daniel Rae black bars? Ur so weird lol

@bgshadow

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. The Acer Predator Z35P I got a few years ago was an awesome upgrade for me. I wouldn't go back to 16:9 unless it is 4K. But that would require a ton of GPU horsepower so there is quite some time left until then.

@christophermullins7163

2 жыл бұрын

@@bm_wuratli6883 changing fov has similar effect especially when they fisheye it so things in the middle of the screen aren't any smaller but you have far wider fov.. it's actually easier to see what is at the corners since it isn't so far from center as it would be on ultrawide. Guess this is why 16x9 is the competitors go to.

@RussTeeRider

2 жыл бұрын

Agree on this. I had switched to 34 Inch 1080p Ultrawide 6 years ago with an LG 34UM58-P 1080p IPS 75 HZ monitor and I couldn't look at 16:9 screens anymore as they seem so small. Recently upgraded to a 34 Inch 1440P 165hz VA Ultrawide and been loving the refresh rate fluidity and the more clarity. Once you go Ultrawide, there's no going back to 16:9.

@GENKI_INU

2 жыл бұрын

@@christophermullins7163 The problem is a wider FoV setting on 16:9 also makes it harder to aim (more sensitive) and sometimes, harder to see distance detail. But with a 21:9 ultrawide monitor, you get a wider field of view, while retaining good distance detail and normal aiming sensitivity (assuming the game supports ultrawide resolutions).

1080p still the most popular resolution on Steam at 67.12%, 1440 at 9.85% and 4K at only 2.35%. Plus, lack of affordable GPUs to drive higher res' than 1080p are few and far between so I wouldn't be surprised if 1080p ownership increases. Personally I'm still using a 1440p Acer Predator GSYNC monitor from 2015 and it's still an excellent monitor, no plans to ever update to 4K.

@ko7gaming470

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@rand0mtv660

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverwerewolf975 It's from "Steam Hardware & Software Survey: December 2021", so not sure what you mean by old stats? You have to realize most people running Steam aren't enthusiasts that follow tech channels and buy 4K monitors and RTX 3090s. Stop living in a bubble.

@kingplunger6033

2 жыл бұрын

@@rand0mtv660 no one should by a 3090 for gaming only anyway.

@joesterling4299

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverwerewolf975 No, those are current Steam stats. The GTX 1060 is still the most popular card as well. Welcome to the crushing wasteland that is the current GPU market.

@rand0mtv660

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingplunger6033 I agree, but that's beside the point at the moment here.

Very informative, thanks Tim!

i'm a few days off building my fist PC and was lucky to get a hold of a 3090, I then planned to get the Asus PG32UQ, but after watching your reviews I instead orderd the Gigabyte M32U. after watching your vids I also considered the samsung G7 32inch 1440p monitor aswell, but the M32U was a better fit for me and what I wanted, I also saw that there is a G7 27inch 4k monitor but I wanted a 32 as that is what my current 1080p monitor is and I enjoy that size a lot. Thanx for your help.

Based on a recommendation from a last video from you, I bought the MSI Optix MAG274QRFDE-QD. A noticeable step from 24 "@ 1080p @ 60Hz to 27" @ 1440p @ 165Hz. Thank you, greetings from Germany.

I have a 22" 75Hz 1080p IPS monitor. Even 75Hz makes a difference compared to 60Hz but the problem in my case is that in a lot of games I can't reach stable 75fps but I also can't upgrade my PC at the moment because of the reasons all of us here are familiar with. The monitor was less than 150$ but everything here technology related is usually a bit more expensive so with everything considered it's not a bad price

@JBrd79

Жыл бұрын

I recently went from a 1920 x 1080p 60hz (32") to a 1920 x 1080p @ 165hz (and stepped down to 27"), and I have to be honest: I was wildly impressed by the difference in quality. I was a little unsure since I was reducing the size - but the price was right, so I pulled the trigger on the deal - and, just WOW. I'm very pleased with the video and gaming quality. I really underestimated what a difference it makes going from 60 to 165hz.

Excellent video to sum it up for people. Sent it to a friend considering a high refresh rate monitor to replace his 35" 2560x1080 60hz. I had him try out a LG 27" IPS 240hz 1080p screen at 60hz and then 240hz in game and he could clearly see the smoothness improvement at 240hz. Thinking a 32" 16:9 144hz-170hz in the $200-300 range will fit the bill.

I feel price is no longer that much of a variable between 1080p and 1440p, IF you can wait for sale events. I got my M27Q for $250 in November. That's $50 more than the usual 24G2 or EX2510, roughly 20% more!

Looking forward to you guys getting your hands on the New LG 42C2. 4K 120 at 42 inch is pretty close to 1440p at 27 inch ppi. Only drawback would be that it is an old panel, but i hope that the LG Evo tech mitigates it somewhat

@JackJohnson-br4qr

2 жыл бұрын

That "old" panel is still 3 times better than any other PC monitor on the market.

@Bob-huisbaas

2 жыл бұрын

@@JackJohnson-br4qr I know man!

In my opinion, you missed the distinction between ultrawide 21:9 and super-ultrawide 32:9. There is a big difference in terms of "usable desktop space" and graphics power required, the latter at a resolution of 5120x1440 requiring almost a "4k level" of GPU.

@tank7474

2 жыл бұрын

Super ultra wide is just niche at this point. Some games don't even support cropping the UI making looking at the minimal or hud very annoying

@attilapuskas

2 жыл бұрын

​@@tank7474 Yes, it has its own drawbacks (most games that I play are fine but, I agree with you, for some I have to change back to the 16:9 resolution because of the hud in most cases); just like its own benefits (It's so immersive when you can use the whole screen for a game). It might be a niche, but for me, it was the perfect replacement for a 3 monitor setup. And these comments just highlight the initial point that it is a different category from the ultrawides. One is a wider than normal screen (~0.4x extra width) the other is a whole screen of added width.

@giovannigio3764

2 жыл бұрын

The big problem with 4K is that not all games are in 4K and that the performance is competive online gaming is not the best. But if you at least have a 3d card in the range of a Geforce GTX 3070 or higher than you could enjoy 4 gaming. And you need a good monitor but the price is good if you don't buy a to big 4K monitor.

@coops1992

2 жыл бұрын

@@giovannigio3764 Blow me but I am getting a full 4k ready setup before my 40th birthday! And that is gonna be after 8 years xD

@giovannigio3764

2 жыл бұрын

@@coops1992 Don't worry my friend you if you are spending your money on the things you whant you are doing the right thing. My pc is also from 2014 and i also need a new one. But be awere that there are 2 formats of screens with the name 4k in it that are not 4k! Real 4k has at least this resolution: 4096x2160 and there are almost no 4k games but they told me that final fantasy 15 is a 4k game. So beside that there almost no 4k games also keep in mind that your screen will be slower and that is not a problem in single player games but a big problem in games likes shooters and you need to spend a lot of money for something you will in this era almost never use. But like i said if you have a budget between 4000 and 6000 euro you can build a amazing pc. A card like a 3080 is good for 4k gaming but since money is no problem a 3090 is a better choice. Good luck with your new pc. 👍👌✔🙌 PS: Funny to see my pc is also 8 years old and i'm 38 so also almost the same age.

Great reviews as always guys. Love the channel. I was wondering when you will be reviewing the AORUS FI32Q X . Waiting out on that review before I buy the Asus ROG SWIFT PG279QM instead.

Glad I went for the 2K Acer XV272U KV instead of the 4K M32Q. It was over half the price of the M32Q. The built in calibrated RGB mode is fantastic and works great for my PC and Series X!

Good video, I'd like to add a thing in favor of 1080p, 1080p monitors are not limited to rendering at 1080p, you can use supersampling with DSR/VSR to achieve 2160p on a 1080p monitor and it looks as good as you would expect. However, you can't supersample a refreshrate, you can overclock it but the experience is often very limited. So while a 1080p 240 Hz monitor can do 4K downsampling, a 4K 60 Hz monitor is ultimately limited to 60 Hz, maybe 75 with OC in the best instances. I am also sorry to report that, at least in my country, the M28U is not $650 but $1100.

Was fortunate enough to get a 3060ti from my local MC. With my simple 24 inch 144Hz 1080p, I'll be able to game at high settings on any title for years to come. By the time my card becomes "slow" like the 1060, I'm hoping the shortage will have ended and 1440p/4k monitors will be cheaper. Not to mention my monitor cost me $130, I'm in no rush to upgrade anytime soon.

@whisky_cat

2 жыл бұрын

Great luck enjoy!!

@gamesntech4827

2 жыл бұрын

This is what we all deserved but this whole shortage fiasco has only disappointed pcmr fans.

@N0N0111

2 жыл бұрын

@@gamesntech4827 And Nvidia is pushing us off the cliff...

@user-fo1nk3pd1t

2 жыл бұрын

@@whisky_cat Ty!

@randommonkey4900

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh even the 1060 can still hit 1080p 60fps in almost all games

Played on a 4k tv for a year then I got a 1080p144 24" and I am very happy. I have a 2060s which is perfect for 1080p. I don't like to go below High settins in SP games and don't think I will upgrade soon. The perfect setup for me would be to add a 1440p monitor in the future but keep my 1080p one. In the end don't go with what people say, consider your hardware and taste in games and preference (res vs fps). I like the motion clarity with 144hz and 1080p is perfect for my system.

I am quite happy with my flat LG 32" 1440p monitor. I got it for 220€ and at that price I cannot complain as it is the first VA I found that has almost no brightness flickering in Freesync.

Bought a S2721DGF during a sale recently. The GL850 was almost $200 more in my region so the S2721DGF was much more worth my buck. 1440p at 144Hz is good enough for me coming from a 1080p 60Hz monitor previously

I really want to go 1440p but the lack of a graphics card is making me delay the upgrade

@unsignedmelodeys

2 жыл бұрын

i have a gtx 1080 card and it handles 1440p very well

@seafafrage6934

2 жыл бұрын

same its worth the wait cuz the monitors may get cheaper while we waiting for gpu crisis to resolve

@peterhermina656

2 жыл бұрын

Consider 2560x1080 Ultrawide. my GTX 1080 handles it relatively well with FPS from 60-90 in most games

@Gabu_Dono

2 жыл бұрын

GTX 970 forever.

@bennoboy97

2 жыл бұрын

@@unsignedmelodeys the problems arise when you try to play anything released after 2017 at higher settings..

Great analysis, thanks Tim.

got the aoc since the gpu market is what it is.. after xmas sale had msi optix mag274qrf-qd down alot, so got that one and just waiting to find/get a good gpu. Btw love both monitors, cheers for the help picking them Tim!

The jump to 3440x1400 was probably the best monitor upgrade I have ever had. I simply can not go back to 16:9 no matter the resolution or refresh rate. When 4K 21:9 monitors start to come out I will be more than exited. 5120x2160 has me more than ecstatic, but when do we think this will even happen?!

@LutraLovegood

Жыл бұрын

You can use custom/virtual resolutions to play in 21:9 on a 16:9 screen, might be worth looking into.

@orangecat1596

10 ай бұрын

Spoken like a true casual gamer lmaoo

@noidsuper

9 ай бұрын

@@orangecat1596 ???

I gonna upgrade from 24" 1080p IPS to 4K 42" OLED. I can't wait, have dreamed years and years for this. Wish me luck guys 😉

@velcromastergaming2464

2 жыл бұрын

I'm concerned that buying a 4k oled under 46" this year going to be like buying a gpu.

@N0N0111

2 жыл бұрын

@@velcromastergaming2464 Yes, you are feeling the waters what is coming. But i will be in hunting mode. And dedicate a lot time to snag one.

@jc.1191

2 жыл бұрын

I really like 4k

Your monitor coverage is great as always!

Great break down! Thank you.

Outstanding overview! Even more so as you kept a keen focus on factual considerations in the context of a topic that is usually - and quite naturally- overloaded with highly subjective influences and decisions to be made.

@squelchedotter

2 жыл бұрын

Opinions and subjectivity are good, actually. That's the point of reviews.

1440p Ultrawide is perfect for my needs... I love the 1000R offered by Samsung too. I'd struggle to go back to 16:9 or a less aggressive curve.

@FzNd

2 жыл бұрын

Chose that solution last year, too and I'm very happy with it. 1440p is crisp enough and I really don't want to miss the ultrawide ratio anymore. In combination with a second pivoted monitor for document reading, I'm super happy with my monitor setup.

@PikaStu666

2 жыл бұрын

@@FzNd Oh yes, my office supplied me with a rotating monitor to work from home… the bonus being I love playing vertical shmups in TATE mode!

@c99kfm

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1500R, and I have no idea why you would ever want a larger curve radius. What use is a 3800R curve on a computer monitor you're sitting slightly more than a meter from? I like mine, but 1000R would probably be even better. When looking, I was unwliling to go below 1200 vertical pixels and wanted to be able to have a document open beside an editor. My last monitor was 1920x1200, which was slightly too narrow, and I occasionally used the pivot function for some documents and pictures. I think I'd have preferred 3840x1600, for the extra vertical space mostly, but going up to that would also have required getting a higher-end GPU, putting the total at $2k or thereabouts, especially with the current market, so that was right out. I'm happy enough with my Xiao Mi Curved Gaming 34 monitor, and it was cheap enough ($400) that I won't feel bad if I upgrade it in ten years or so.

@christophermullins7163

2 жыл бұрын

I love my curved lg.. and the colors are so much better than most options out there at 165hz.

@Hirnlego999

2 жыл бұрын

Same, HP X34...trying out 16:9 after it makes it look like 4:3

I got the 48" LG CX 4k 120hz OLED to use with my PC and the PS5. It's been fantastic so far.

@nineflyerr3866

2 жыл бұрын

It truly is the absolute best

Never disappoint as always^^ Great video, thanks guys :)

I got a 27GP950 for christmas, and 144hz is incredible. I already had a 4k60 monitor so I didn't want to drop down the resolution and I'm happy with my decision. It also lets my 6900xt actually push itself in more games

@Menno.078

2 жыл бұрын

nice man i also got one this summer its so good for my ps5

My main monitor is currently a 32' 1080p display. People complain about seeing the pixels even on 1440p, but that doesn't bother me at all. My vision isn't great, so having a physically larger display helps with eyestrain. That said, i just bought a 144hz 1440p display to replace it! It's my first time going above 1080p or 60hz, so i'm pretty excited to see the difference.

@marcoslightspeed5517

11 ай бұрын

How do you like your 1440p ?

@Garjahn

11 ай бұрын

@@marcoslightspeed5517 It's great. For my main monitor, i can never go back. If anything i'd want a 4k display next. However, after adjusting to 144hz i do feel like 60hz is a bit choppy and laggy in games, so i'd also want something that's at least capable of higher than 60hz. Even just 90hz would still be fine, but 60 feels too low at this point.

Best video ever about this topic. Thanks for provided it!

Strange for this to be posted 4 hours after I've been looking for this exact video.

According to Steam servy, 9 of 10 most currently used GPU's are, by order: Gtx1060, Gtx1650, Gtx1050Ti, Rtx2060, Gtx1050, Gtx1660Ti, Gtx1660 Super, Gtx1070, Gtx1660. ( These 9 take 38% of total GPUs.) When will be a GPU at 250$-300$ that be powerful to run games easly - (Maybe you want the GPU to hold for future games as well) - at 2K 144hz, more people will play at this res. Personally I'm using a Gtx 1070 with Viewsonic XG2405 (1080p 144hz IPS).

Only thing missing from this video would have been a size, resolution, dpi scale table and a few words about it :) Good work as always

i recently grabbed a vg259qm for $230 on black friday (thanks to your high praise of it) and it’s pretty spectacular, way better than the old 60hz tn i had

Excellent info. Goodstuff

at what size would you recommend moving up from 1080 to 1440 (or higher)? I heard that 27" is more or less where you need to start switching over. Might get away with 27" 1080p, but that is where you start seeing the decrease in "quality" of the image

@decriptedperson4516

Жыл бұрын

25 for 1080p 27 for 1440p Don't go above that or the images will look bad because of ppi

4K also has the less obvious advantage over 1440p of being a perfect upscale from 1080p, in cases when the content you are watching is available in no higher than 1080p. Something like 1080p movies looks 'fine' on 1440p, but if you look at gaming or any fine text, it's pretty clear that when upscaled to fullscreen, 1080p content looks inferior on 1440p displays.

@ifrit35

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, exactly why I went back from 1440p to 1080p.

@zfacersane272

2 жыл бұрын

@@ifrit35 what? Don’t make any sense

@ifrit35

2 жыл бұрын

@@zfacersane272 Here's a quick summary. I went from 1080p 60hz to 1440p 144hz. At this point I found out that I much prefer high refresh rate in my games than the added resolution. And as Max pointed out, 1080p doesn't scale well on 1440p monitor. So I got rid of it and bought a 1080p 144hz monitor. 4k 144hz monitor are more versatile in that regard.

@zfacersane272

2 жыл бұрын

@@ifrit35 ahhh now I understand

I'm super excited for your review of the new Samsung Odyssey Neo G8, 4k 240hz in 32" when it finally comes out. I would love tho, if they made a non curved version to.

This is really helpful thanks!

3440x1440 is my favorite gaming resolution so far. I'm considering to go wider even.

Based on your reviews from last year, i bought a DELL 2721DGF at the end of December here in the USA at Best buy for only $300 Which is an IPS 165hz 400 nits both gsync compatible and free sync premium pro, I am super satisfied. Thank you so much. It was a true steal...LG nano IPS panel...

@suspicionofdeceit

2 жыл бұрын

Sick monitor!

@ogpirons

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Miss some of the higher frames due to only having a 3070 but I'm not gonna lie and say I'm not considering buying a second one to have a matching dual monitor setup.

@BearerOfDreams

2 жыл бұрын

For me i also have a dell monitor although this channel hasn't reviewed it yet. It is a dell s3220dgf. It's 1440p 165hz va panel and i love every single bit of it!

@ogpirons

2 жыл бұрын

@@BearerOfDreams Nice. I was scared to go 1440p at 32".

@riannair7101

2 жыл бұрын

I have this monitor, is a true beast and i have no issues at all with after 1 year of use!

Great video, Tim. Monitor reviews are important, but it's very helpful to have a video that steps back and looks at the subject more generally. I'd love a 24" 1440p display, but there's so few I'll probably end up just getting a 27" display and moving my setup back a bit.

@hogeon2227

2 жыл бұрын

at 24” 1080p is enough thats probably why there arent alot of 1440p at that size 27” def best for 1440p

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

2 жыл бұрын

there are definitely 24" 1440p, but what's the point? Not much difference to 1080p. Also imo 24" screen is too small, I know it was so popular but it's time is over. Under 25" feels tiny for me, under 29" is small although I wouldn't mind for my screen to be 29" or 30" instead of 32" (actually 31.5") Although dunno why I think this really, it's a simple case of moving it some cm forward or back

@magyararon6918

2 жыл бұрын

@@hogeon2227 24” 1080p is not enough, maybe enough if you have low resolution eyes

@magyararon6918

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j There is a huge difference in sharpness between a 21 inch 1080p and 24 inch 1080p... Its crazy that there is no good option for 24 inch 1440p, but i guess most people sit from 3 meters from the monitor or they have horrible eyes so they need 32 inch monitors.

@hogeon2227

2 жыл бұрын

@@magyararon6918 what are you talking about I never said there is no difference between 21 in and 24 in. As for 1440p at 24, its because its a waste to use 1440p resolution on a 24 in because you cant tell the difference. 1080p at 24 is definitely enough, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I went from LG 27GN850 1440p144hz to Asus ROG Swift PG329Q 1440p165hz. Pros for me was less bright spots in the angles and 32 inche display is so good for me. To see pixels I need to lean realy close. Pure eye candy! I gues next upgrade for me would be something with HDR, maybe oled, or just dimming zones that make sense, not just big rectangles, like on some todays monitors.

I'm so impressed from AMD FSR that my next monitor will be 4k. I always thought I will never go above 1440p because of native resolution, but upscaling isn't that demanding but gives a lot of quality. And for text sharpness and a bigger workspace or anything work related, 4k is always nice to have too.

@Battleneter

2 жыл бұрын

AMD software based FSR is a tad mediocre, so not sure why you are so excited about. AMD will likely stop supporting it in RDNA3 and introduce their hardware based DLSS competitor "likely" called FSR2.0, at least that's how it is looking at this stage.

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

@@Battleneter FSR upscaling from 1440p to 4K still looks a lot better than the monitors internal upscaler, so if you have a 1440p class GPU but want a 4K monitor it's absolutely a viable option. Especially now where it's getting driver inclusion.

@FunFreakeyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Battleneter I'm so excited about it because I run Linux and can use FSR for every unsupported game, I'm not exaggerating, Linux has a fullscreen hack for that (don't know about the status for Windows with that). I tested native 1440p vs upscaled 1080p to 1440p, the difference in quality was nearly non-existent especially if you actively play, but I got a big FPS boost for free. I guess I'm a special case with that, but it showed me that 4k gaming is indeed possible even without the highest tier of GPU. Before that I thought 1440p is the highest I want, because in games you mostly want higher FPS not higher resolution and native 4k is of course really demanding.

@BombBoy96

2 жыл бұрын

@@FunFreakeyy But wouldnt upscaled 4k require less performance from the card than native 4K? I think the woes of running a game in Linux at native 4k would present themselves.

@FunFreakeyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@BombBoy96 Yeah that's what I mean, if you upscale you get more FPS than with a native render. And if you look at different benchmarks over the web, between 1440p and 4k you can expect the difference. Of course it's not 100% the same, but the brain can get tricked really easy, especially in fast paced games.

I bought my first gaming monitor last year, 27” 1440p 165hz and it’s been awesome. I’ve also been pleasantly surprised at how nice it is to edit word docs on the monitor too. Noticeably more vertical space than my old 24”.

@airplanenut6242

2 жыл бұрын

You know, I'm actually really happy with the standard 16:9. For the cost of an ultrawide I could have bought 2 of the Dell 27whatever I picked up.

@SianaGearz

2 жыл бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257 ultrawide is just a waste of vertical real estate that you have in front of you. Especially stupid for text work.

@SianaGearz

2 жыл бұрын

My use case is a little different but indeed it is amazing how quickly and nicely you can skim PDFs and documentation and text/code on a fast display with 120Hz desktop refresh rate or higher. I too have 165Hz capability but I only use it in some games, I enjoy that the desktop has 10bit colour in 120Hz mode. The pixel colour transitions get a little less even at 165Hz, and 165 also doesn't let my GPU idle as effectively, so whenever I don't need 10bit, I mostly just use 144Hz for now.

Very nice video Tim Ultrawide is the way to go for gaming i think the 34" curved monitors give you the best immersive experience

I have dual 27'' 1440p 165hz, the ASUS TUF VG27AQ. My dream monitor, and now I have two of them. Came from a single 1366x768 monitor. I can easily say this is the sweet spot for me and I see no point in 4K for what I do.

@grey.98

Жыл бұрын

Am thinking to buy this one, it costs 390$ in my country.. Do u think there's better options?

During "lockdown" I wanted to replace my 25" 1440p glowey IPS with a 27" 144Hz flat VA, only there weren't many options available. Ended up with a 32" 4K 60Hz VA panel instead. It suits the kind of strategy games and software development type work that I do as it's like having four 1080p displays together. Next upgrade will be a 4K 144Hz OLED/MicroLED once they're under $1000.

@Time_Traveling_Lesbian

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what I did when I was able to find an LG CX 48 for 999$ I upgraded to it from my 1440p 165hz monitor. It has pretty amazing image quality

@SianaGearz

2 жыл бұрын

I actually really enjoy 120Hz and higher desktop refresh rate for software development and text work since you can scan/skim the text scrolling by nicely. Glowy IPS is barely an issue, but VA and TN have a transition bias, so TN has sticky whites and VA has sticky blacks, which makes quickly scrolling text a large nuisance where it's pretty much blanked out or leaves streaks. IPS has roughly the same transition speed both ways, making it ideal for this.

Sad to see you didn't mention how finnicky ultrawide monitors can be for livestreaming; I've heard weird things happening like black bars appearing when trying to stream in a 16:9 format using an ultrawide, or some games just not displaying in the stream feed, and the uncertainty has put me off buying one. I've yet to see a deep-dive into this issue.

I bought a M32U and I'm happy with it. I play a lot of flight sim games and seeing the small instruments is important.

Picked up a 1500R curved ultrawide 1440p monitor last year when I upgraded to a 3070. It's been a much more immersive gaming experience personally compared to a flat standard 16:9 screen

27" at 1440p is still the sweet spot and offers the best pixel resolution vs cost vs framerate for most people. Still using my 2 x PG279Q's for the last 7 years and the only upgrade I would consider from this would be an ultra-wide at the same vertical resolution and same vertical size or greater.

@deagle7602

2 жыл бұрын

Is 1440p vs 4k even a big difference at 27”? I’d definitely consider 32” if were to get 4k.

@anorax001

2 жыл бұрын

@@deagle7602 I think 4K is wasted at 27". The PPI of 4K at 27" is 163 which is overkill at that size. 4K only becomes useful for 32" and larger screens. 2K at 27" PPI is still 108. Plus 2K has less than half of the total pixels to drive compared to 4K so you are able to get a much better framerate from a GPU and turn up the detail level in most games.

@hhhfdsfs

2 жыл бұрын

@@deagle7602 most games no, but some games like rdr2 make 1440p look bad

I bought a 27" 1440p monitor with 165hz refresh rate and 10-bit 120Hz capability, which is great for graphics work. It's also good for working with a large amount of quickly scrolling text thanks to IPS which lacks a predominant transition bias and good response times. You also don't need any UI scaling, the pixel size is about the same as on a 22" 1080p display. I have a gtx970 which I suppose I'll need to keep for another year or two and then upgrade. I can't reach beyond 60fps in most games? I don't care. Sometimes I can and it's great fun. I can't reach near native rendering resolution? Fine, I'll play at 1080p or 900p. But the monitor is probably going to be the primary one for the next 8 years.

@dx48.

Жыл бұрын

i had 970 and after 8 years switched to 4090. And..i enjoyed games more with my old gpu. Now i can play everything maxed out but i just don't want to.

I have an ultrawide and I absolutely love it for productivity and singleplayer gaming. It's honestly one of the best gaming purchases I've made. Its only downside is when new AAA games don't come with ultrawide support (hint: Fromsoft, come on, how can you release Sekiro and Elden Ring without ultrawide support?!) but usually the modding community comes through. They've even added ultrawide support to Rdr2 cinematics!

@Ryan-gc3sd

2 жыл бұрын

Also it is not that hard to program a option for Ultrawide users, which is why I think Fromsoft intentionally did not not implement ultrawide support. It could probably be the fact that most of their games have some sort of ambush or something hiding in a corner, maybe ultrawide will let you see all that stuff that was meant to be taken by surprise

Upgraded from 27" 1080p 144hz to 27" 1440p 165hz last year and absolutely love it. Will get a 32"+ 4k in a few years when GPUs are more powerful.

1080p 144Hz Relatively cheap, easy to drive, no need for Windows resolution scaling

1440p for me is the best resolution at least for normal sizes today of 27" up to 32". The best widescreen res currently is 3840x1600 and I hope it becomes more accessible and widespread in the future, the return of the 1600 vertical is a godsend. 4K is terribly overrated unless it's on a TV or 42"+ screen.

This was such a great video. My only thing is that the delivery is a little dry. Maybe add a joke in these every 10 minutes or so 😅. But honestly great video. I really learned so much. Please keep doing this. Would you be able to do one of these for movie watching?

I am still using a 240hz 1080p monitor although I don't play as many competitive games any more. It has a few advantages for AAA gaming. High end GPUs can reach very nice framerates on some games at this resolution. I have a 6700xt, and a great game for this setup was The Division 2, which I played at 144fps + on the highest settings. If you are a fan of ray tracing, it is also a resolution that a lot of cards can handle with high ray tracing settings at native resolution, e.g. even on this relatively weak RT card, I can play Metro Exodus EE on Ultra RT at 60fps. So not too shabby.