Keep your AMC all AMC!!!!!

@fordtechlife

3 жыл бұрын

💪👍🔴💯👊🔥🇺🇲

@plasma081

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@slowstang88

2 жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw an LS, I stopped watching

@joshuapitz4906

2 жыл бұрын

@@slowstang88 me too... a great way to ruin a nice classic!!!! 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

Should have kept it Pure AMC, would have been a great episode.

The early trans am race cars where cubic inch limited. Grab a trans am rule book and build your tribute build car

I'm a g.m. guy but keep it stock with all of the original stuff it has . Killed the value

@robertgantry2118

4 жыл бұрын

Dam thing's ugly as hell anyway. lol

@Diesel257

3 жыл бұрын

Screw value, it killed the panache.

Pay and Tommy "will it do burnout?" Old AMC: shreds that shit!

On the next Episode, watch as we replace the outdated engine in this 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO with this awesome tunnel ram crate motor with chrome valve covers. Of course we'll have to cut a big old hole in the hood, but that's progress.

@williamcharles9480

3 жыл бұрын

Of course it's a Chevy LS engine to make another worthless bastardized classic. How many times do these guys have to show us this engine on a dyno?

@SvenTviking

3 жыл бұрын

DON’T GIVE THESE INBRED HICKD IDEAS!!!!

@SvenTviking

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamcharles9480 To be fair, they took the hint and did another Javelin and tuned the stock motor.

@williamcharles9480

3 жыл бұрын

@@SvenTviking Thank God! There's not many of these cars still in existence.

All of these shows. Even ones on other networks don’t know how to leave good things alone.

@redram5150

3 жыл бұрын

I about had an aneurysm when Phantomworks took a 56 TBird and proceeded to ruin it with the brakes and drivetrain from a sacrificed 05 GTO. Some people...

Aaahh shoot... I was hoping for a really hot 360/401 buildup.

I'm a bit of a purist. I would have liked to see it stay AMC. See what could be accomplished with the existing motor. Maybe a turbo or some other type of power adder.

@Thraser999

4 жыл бұрын

Even maybe getting the most out of it just N/A

@dsiner1obslifedziner157

4 жыл бұрын

Key word N/A.

@thedon3836

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe if they could find a 6.6 401 AMC engine for it. Swapping the weak 150hp 304 out was the right choice regardless of what type of performance engine they swap in.

@BuzzLOLOL

4 жыл бұрын

550 HP 427" AMC 401... or 375 HP AMC 304" Trans Am type engine build... ...

@justindampier9017

4 жыл бұрын

Would've been nice to see a 401 dropped in the car.

Had me for 21 seconds....ls toss away engine. Great put that in the fire along with the foose e type and phantom works 56 thunderbird. RIP poor Javelin

should have found a 401 to put in it.

@darwindwelle5267

4 жыл бұрын

Agree!!!

@BuzzLOLOL

4 жыл бұрын

454" 'AMC '401'...

@Cambpro

4 жыл бұрын

That would have been neat too, I have a feeling they were going for weight loss too though

@timfremstad3434

3 жыл бұрын

64 Dodge 330?, My Grandma had one when I was young, B5 blue, of course pushbutton auto, I believe it was 426 Max Wedge, and I distinctly remember the carb and manifold, it was 2 staggered 4 bbls.....she was a cook at the local high school, never drove more than 35 mph......she finally got rid of it because it was hard starter in the winter (duh) traded it for a new 69 Rambler....She was almost literally "The Little Old Lady from Pasadena" puttered around at 35 in a car that could do 135......ah, I miss Grandma

@dodge-io7gd

3 жыл бұрын

@@timfremstad3434 that is so cool

I'm still too old-school to put an LS engine in something like that

@karlsmith2570

4 жыл бұрын

Same here If anything else, I'd have put a 390 or a 401 under the Hood

@moparmissile

3 жыл бұрын

yeah a mopar could lay some legitimate claim BUT hell no leave the original and hop it up. The AMC did rule the dragstrip for a short time.

@BuzzLOLOL

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 - Nopey... the fun is dragging HP out of an AMC engine...

@BuzzLOLOL

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 - Because it's a challenge and not everyone has one...

@cavscout62

3 жыл бұрын

And AMC did build a perfectly reliable high power engine that did just fine in Trans Am racing, the 360 was quite good.

I've seen dyno tests of 390 and 401 engines making 570+ HP with ported iron heads on pump gas. If you know the ins and outs of the AMC v8, it can be done. Put on Eddy aluminum heads and get more compression on that pump gas.

@BuzzLOLOL

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, 375 HP AMC 304" would be much cheaper and vastly more interesting... plenty of fun per dollar...

@thejavelin7832

4 жыл бұрын

@@BuzzLOLOL yup. Used forged pistons and rods and either turbo or 150-200 shot.

@CamaroAmx

4 жыл бұрын

Just get an Indy Block and cylinder heads to get 431 or more cubic inches and with the right parts you can make north of a 1000hp. D’Ambrosio’s old Gremlin used an Indy block with nitrous and made over 1500hp.

@williamcharles9480

3 жыл бұрын

These guys are serving the aftermarket that's cutting their paychecks. It's all LS or nothing. I'm tired of this scene being played out over and over. Next they'll be converting electric cars over to an LS.

@mitchfleming274

3 жыл бұрын

Indy cylinder heads makes some serious aluminum heads...

I always enjoy an LS swap, but a built high compression aluminum head 401 would have been way cooler!

@edfrawley4356

4 жыл бұрын

Cooler yes, but I doubt the strength of the 401 block to live under 7 to 8 thousand rpm and over 700+ hp which it would no doubt see with modern fuel injection.

@byronmcelfresh2380

4 жыл бұрын

@@edfrawley4356 guess You never seen the pro stock AMC cars running factory blocks. 8000+ rpm all the time

@djhaloeight

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would’ve much preferred to see them work over that 304.

@DaveyHo69

3 жыл бұрын

@@edfrawley4356 Wrong. FI adds NO horsepower. Many many 401s have been well over 800 HP without fail so long as they're built right. And there's the Indy Head Service 401 block that goes over 900 HP naturally aspirated.

@ashtonburgess9569

3 жыл бұрын

I hear all amc v8 blocks were the same

Going the easy way with a chevy motor, running a 1977 AMC 401 mild build in my 1949 Willys wagon, a real jeep motor in a real jeep.

@rustyjeep2469

4 жыл бұрын

Russell Hueners My thoughts exactly, was hoping this would be an AMC motor

@ryanlusby569

4 жыл бұрын

Mopar sucks

@marshallmcdowell3369

4 жыл бұрын

They did build an AMC 360 at one point in one of “The other engines” episodes. I was hoping they’d bring it back and juice it up for this

@chrismc410

3 жыл бұрын

Whats wrong with the Chevy motor? Weren't most AMC motors a combination of certain motors the Big 3 made with exceptions of the Renault imports/domestically built Renault motors and the 4.0 L inline-6 cylinder?

@cavscout62

3 жыл бұрын

Good for you man, keep it all original equipment!🤘🏼

My late mom had a '74 hornet 304 , I got her '68 cutlass 442 . She loved the " Horney Hornet " !

@audieconrad8995

3 жыл бұрын

304 Hornet could def hold it's own!❤

I rarely give a video thumbs down, this one got it. If you want an LS, Camaros are dirt cheap.

@jamesharris5232

4 жыл бұрын

From late 70's to 90's. Any one before 1975 is priced way too much for a rolling money pit. That's why they have to do chassis swaps...

@alanhardman2447

3 жыл бұрын

Me, too! Too much of a challenge to get power from a factory 401? Just go to the shit bin and pull out a "modern" LS. A pure weasel cop-out...

@neilmaccallum3476

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed...build a damn 401 for the AMC! My buddy has a 71 AMX javelin with over 600hp at the wheels, and it's AMC powered!

No 401 rebuild? What you thinking?

@tomnekuda3818

4 жыл бұрын

Damn straight!

@estpst

4 жыл бұрын

LS Fever that's why. :(

@tomnekuda3818

4 жыл бұрын

@@estpst Lemmings over a cliff....

@asfshrimp

4 жыл бұрын

401 slug no way 600 horse out of that boat anchor

@karlsracing8422

4 жыл бұрын

401 will get 600hp

Nacho's driving one of these on Better Call Saul. I dig it. 👍👍

@FTsingos

4 жыл бұрын

Yes he is

@mrlibowski493

4 жыл бұрын

Tight tight tight!

I am out, when you went with a LS. But I guess we should not be surprised. Why not do a 390 or a 401. Na do the ease way out.

@BuzzLOLOL

4 жыл бұрын

Trans Am 375 HP AMC 304 build much better...

@josephmcintyre752

4 жыл бұрын

Duhhhh the went with what WORKS. Where are you gonna find high performance AmC parts again? How much would it cost to make same power levels?

@mpetersen6

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephmcintyre752 Admittedly you've got a point. There are parts available but they may not be on the shelf. As for being somebody who follows to a different drummer there's a guy out in Cali that is putting together a 443 CID stroker from an AMC 327. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lX1ospqvnL3FYdY.html

@audieconrad8995

3 жыл бұрын

These guys are admittedly not AMC fans. Doesn't give them a reason to be ignorant though. AMC motors had/have a great reputation for being stout and extremely tunable. But...gotta do the homework. If they went and found a 427 they could have gone and found a 360/390/401. Good work on the swap I guess but as an AMC enthusiast keeping it authentic would've been more satisfying. Luv those 2nd gen Jav's...

@DavidDillon

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephmcintyre752 Indy Cylinder Head and Edelbrock both carry AMC parts

Since AMC was bought by Chrysler, I think it would've been more fitting/appropriate to put a 5.7 0r 6.6l hemi in it. Just my humble opinion.

@edzimdahl1158

2 жыл бұрын

More appropriate cause chrysler purchased amc yes, but should have still kept all amc instead of going the lazy butcher a ls in

Building a bulletproof 401 would have been a much better plan. Putting an LS into a Javelin is the layman's way out. With all the new equipment in your shop you wasted a great opportunity to show off using all that equipment and building a 401.

I'm not an AMC fan at all but the javelin is a cool car. That car is in great original condition . I can't watch yall destroy it.

I’ll take one any day! I love the later Ramblers, Gremlins and Hornets, and the line of Javelins and AMX’s.

Come on guys! Build a 401, please! There is tons of power potential there and I would love to see the numbers you come up with. You have got to be curious to find out, I am for sure.

Another destroyed piece of history!

@RandomGuyDan

3 жыл бұрын

Not destroyed because they aren't cutting up the car to fit the engine in, but it is still kind of sad to see yet another period correct engine jettisoned for an LS.

Loved these cars. But like many want to see someone do it all AMC..

The most recent video appears to indicate that the original 304 rebuilt and Electronic fuel injection added (dyno'd to 330HP) is the engine they're planning on using now.

Another LS build. Didn’t see that coming from here.

Im a big fan of Pats. One of the BEST engine builders EVER. What a privilege it is for us when you share information. Thank you sir. Please don’t ever stop. My son and I would love an LSX built by you guys to drop into our 1986 IROC Camero. If you EVER want to do a show about a 427 LSX in an 86 IROC please give this vet and son the privilege of participation. Once again thank you both, especially you Pat!

@robertwest3093

Жыл бұрын

I think we would get along just fine 😁

@catchulater7483

Жыл бұрын

@@robertwest3093 i know we would! Both of us r car nuts!

Wow a LS swap never seen that before.

I think they should have kept it AMC under the hood. That LS just ruined the whole classic Javelin vibe for me, thanks Power Nation .

Pier Cardin edition AMC and Tommy Boshers FINALLY puts a part in his hair. So much style going on here..

So I’m very much a ls/lt guy, but the guys are right in the comments. For this build a 401 would have been the way to go. Like they said in the show, guys love these things or hate them. An ls swap just makes the lovers hate one of their own. And where did the 8500 ripums go? For one on a 401 that would have been legendary. If they got that to spin. (They got the cash) and for two on that motor it was only a cam and maybe springs(if they were not already good enough) away from 8500. Love this show, and a good ls. So not hating on it. But a amc would have been the way to go.

It will sound wicked with long tube headers, and side exhausts. Like the Lou Gigliotti trans am corvette

I love the carb that makes it easy to tune

Man I tell you this show is motivation

Yes should have built a carbureted 401, Ls swaps are really getting to be lame.. Like a cop out..

I don't care what anybody else says, I love this crew of g00ns!

beautiful underrated car

Love the burn outs.

Always loved the Javelin.

New drinking game. Beer every time they say "billet"!!!

Love the 4 barrels!

Those are going in everything.

Who doesn't love an AMC?

Oh wow an ls swap , ive never seen that before . Way to follow the mold guys.

Missed the mark, this should have been a 401. You kept the Caddy and the PMD...

That's the way every build should start Hoonin in the parking lot !

Loved my javies, 68 base 343 4spd,, 70 sst hipo360 4spd,, even the 74 base 304 column shift automatic with all creature comforts cruiser type

Another boring LS swap, let's get back to OEM motors that go with the car, it would be more gratifying to see them build a 600 horsepower AMC motor.

@outlawtransam

4 жыл бұрын

some ppl feel the same way with the old engine builds. we all know it takes alot of money thrown at a classic engine to make power and be happy with high rpms. ls swaps are here to stay much like the old sbc swaps were back in the day.

MAYBE A LITTLE MORE...………......WHATS IT GOT STUNTMAN!!!!!!!

The, LS is great! I, understand that. But, you guys, took the easy route!

Waiting for the Ferrari or Porsche LS swap........ One of the last segments that haven't been LS'D out yet. GREAT BUILD - Would love to have that 427 with a FI system in a GM Disappointed that you chose to put it into an AMC. Like to see what you guys could do with a 360 -390 - 401. Bet you could make some BIG #s & the FAITHFUL would love to see it.

Mad men, very cool, love it.

LS LS LS So tired of LS swaps how about some good old power like a 401 and keep it a AMC

@reclaimer429fishing

3 жыл бұрын

same here! its getting super old!

@ineffable1129

3 жыл бұрын

The problem an AMC V8 is similar to a Pontiac V8, due to the limitation of the heads they have no more potential than a SBC, less really because of the mass of the rotating assembly. Plus in both cases you lugging an extra 50lbs.

@no1dirtbag

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 what are the differences? I'm old school I don't play with that new fangled stuff. I am totally unfamiliar with it

@no1dirtbag

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 I did not know these things thank you for the info!!

Always a pleasure to watch all these personable and knowledgeable guys. HA - and TOMMY's accent always makes me feel most welcome. But would have been a 'nicer' build using a BIG AMC engine - I am assuming one can purchase aftermarket heads etc for an AMC (forgive my ignorance) - but still going to be a nice driver even with a CHEV in it. I am not 'anti-LS' - but it is sort of like 'everyone' wants to drop a BARRA into something - in the end - the novelty of LS and BARRA into everything sort of wears off (albeit the BARRA not quite as numerous as LS swaps - yet - HA). Would have been a pleasure to watch an AMC being given the 'modern' stuff. Have a nice day all - stay safe. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA.

I agree with most of the constituents, a LS seems like a cop out. A hemi or a stroker 401 would be more appropriate. The LS is cool but not in every dang thing.

That Javelin is too nice and to few of them to be messed with..😭 on the flip side I'm glad they went with the non big-3 model...

@byronmcelfresh2380

4 жыл бұрын

Basicly they made it another over rated chevy. So they ruined it to make it a big 3

Nice wheels ! My dad had a car like this but his was midnight blue with black

bad idea with the ls motor . if you cant get 600 horsepower from a 401 call Barry Allen , he'll do it in his sleep .

Make American Motors great again!

"We wanted to be different." *LS swaps it* You literally can't get less different. Can't do it.

I dont know why but I have always loved 427 engines. Ford or Chevy don't matter.

Greetings for you from Iraq 🤗

@keeblerdeathsquad

4 жыл бұрын

Greetings friend!

@BuzzLOLOL

4 жыл бұрын

Hello... got a hot car?

@Laffy1345

3 жыл бұрын

Hello car brother

@williamcharles9480

3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Florida fellow auto enthusiast.

As much as I love Chevy engines, why did you not break from the norm and do a one off AMC engine. AMC engines were amazing and I would have loved to have seen one built.

@stevex874

2 жыл бұрын

$$$$$

What happened to the 8,500-9,000 rpm request. Just a bummer that it’s ANOTHER damn LS

Love the carbs Pat, please keep doing builds with them.

lol the tucked in shirt, 1000 pens and the tape measure in the pocket.

Awesome power

Man that's a beautiful looking Javelin guys but maybe you could've swap a 392 Hemi in it vs another GM LS LS but hey a 655 HP out of an LSX427 is really impressive.

Awesome!!

How cool would it have been to see a modernized 401? Port fuel injection, coil near plug, Holley brain. If they had to go modern platform a Gen III Hemi would have been much more acceptable.

That's by far, the coolest shifter for an automatic from factory

@audieconrad8995

3 жыл бұрын

I believe AMC referred to it as the saddle shift.

I still want a Javelin. Not with a Chevy or Ford engine though. Updated suspension is a definite as i like to hit the twisties. A turbo would be great . Gotta admit though, that the engine they chose is a sweet one.

That's it. Gonna do a pontiac 400 build for my pontiac.

i thought it would have been cool if you put a modern hemi in the amc just because dodge bought amc later on so could have been a cool homage

Hey Pat! Is that a first gen Leatherman Wave on your belt? I have two of them, and wouldn't have a second gen version.

Hi, guys love your channel. If possible at some point in the future could you do a build on a 2000 Dodge Dakota R/T 5.9

Vídeo fantástico 👏👏👏

"They're gonna be ticked off that it has a carburetted intake, but look at my face, do I care?" quote of the year!

Oh, man, an AMC 401 performance build would've been awesome! (But got it, Summit Racing, et al., make a whole lot more money on LS swaps ;)).

The reason they probably didn't build a AMC motor is they couldn't just order the parts on line. The volume just wasn't there for the aftermarket manufacturers to bother with much stuff. Cams are one thing. All you need there are master lobe profiles for grinding the am lobes (CNC cam grinders weren't even a gleam in Landis's* eye then). Heads and intake manifolds you are talking castings. Castings require patterns. Patterns before 3D printing came along were pretty labor intensive. The 390/401 blocks along with the Special Service blocks had heavier webbing on the mains to support 4 bolt main bearings on #2, 3, and 4. The 390 and 401 had forged cranks and rods. Forged cranks were also available on 360s iirc. I do know that the forged cranks were very hard on the production machinery. In actuality the nodular iron cranks are suitable for any street car you would want to live with. The stock dog leg heads flow very well out of the box. The major problem with the AMC V-8 (the 290 thru 401) is the oiling system really isn't up to sustained high RPM operation. The problem is the oil galley for the right hand side lifters also feeds the crankshaft bearings. This can lead to oil starvation problems on the rear end of the crankshaft and rod bearings. Note this is not an issue in normal vehicle operation. The gear set in the oil pump is actually longer than say a stock SBC. But because the pump is part of the front cover it makes an aftermarket upgrade a bigger problem. In 1970 Penske had engine problems with their Javelin motors due to oiling issues. In 71 and there after the Trans-Am series allowed dry sump systems. After that oiling issues were never an issue. Short deck aluminum blocks were cast for the Indy car program. These engines produced over 1000 HP and an AMC V-8 actually had the highest lap speed ever set by an Indy car for a number of years. Bobby Alison got caught using a roller cam in Nascar. But then every body else cheated to. There were also dealer install or parts counter parts that included some unusual pieces. Vented four wheel disc brake upgrades were available that were actually from Porsche.

Cool car

When they finally get a semi-rare classic and they can't keep it all AMC...I love Chevys but come on!!! 🙄😑

@SvenTviking

3 жыл бұрын

They’re TV morons. All they know is crate motors or well know Mopar, Chevy or Ford power plants. Finding an AMC lump and tuning that is a bit much for their talents.

@captainredneck0683

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize that AMC literally made nothing on their own right? Just about every part on any AMC is from some other manufacturer. AMC was well known back in the day for using Ford, GM, and Chrysler motors. They always called them an AMC motor, but the reality was it was some other manufacturers engine that they repurposed for their use.

@audieconrad8995

3 жыл бұрын

@@captainredneck0683 dude u r beyond clueless. Straight sixes and ALL V8's were AMC period. Yes some parts i.e. Motorcraft carburetors etc... AMC did source some parts throughout their vehicle line-up but only in context that the parts were the best of whatever company had to offer. Do some research - you'll be enlighted.

looking good

would liek to see u guys do some overhead cam stuff

I'm a GM fanboy all day, every day. But the Javelin and AMX have always had a special place in my heart and will own one some day. While I love all the Powernation shows, they ruined this Javelin by putting a LS in it. AMC built lots of amazing engines that could have been put in this with aftermarket support. Even a Chrysler LA/Magnum engine would be closer.

I need this for my Camaro.

This broke my heart. Finally an AMC, only to have my hopes crushed with another dumbass LS swap. Hell they could have done an episode where they rebuilt the straight six in a gremlin and it would have been cooler than this.

A girl gave me a Pierre Cardin velour bathrobe in 1975, navy with cream trim, very stylish. I never wore it but it's around somewhere.

How come you guys don’t mrs with over head cam or dual over head cam engines?

Damn carburetors

Nice, so where is the install with engine set back for road racing i have to see to believe.

I like it, it's different

Pat showed em how its done.

Add me to the crowd that thinks you screwed up by not staying AMC. I didn't even bother finishing. I suppose I should've read the description and not wasted my time to begin with.

I saw the satisfaction in his eyes

When are we going to see more of the javelin build?

I am also a purist , I would have liked to have seen a 401 build. It is easy buying parts readily available off of the shelf but tweaking an old 401would be challenging and show skill and know how.