41001 cold starting after a month or two of hibernation.
Жүктеу.....
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@wilfstor30785 жыл бұрын
This perfectly replicates me trying to wake up in the morning.
@DDJP8 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who loves the sound of this cold start? Sure it's bad for the power plant, but THAT SOUND!
@cameronjohnston3186
2 жыл бұрын
Doing the power unit no good whatsoever
@cleanerben96364 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Can hear those cylinders. Beautiful.
@shanecallaghan68415 жыл бұрын
She is so beautiful and I love her so much 😍♥️
@nigelterry92997 жыл бұрын
Thought it was just EE engines where the cylinders join in one by one. Excellent vid!!!!
@rainbowrailroadcrossing7798 Жыл бұрын
British locomotives have some the most unique sounds
@mitchellhurd89585 жыл бұрын
Love the engine drum 😂👍!
@cameronjohnston31865 жыл бұрын
What an absolute racket-and a lot of clag!
@czeslawmeyer7871 Жыл бұрын
Have you owned a valenta engine in the last ten years if so you may be eligible for compensation due to misleading emissions data don't call now or ever ... seriously now I always come back to this video thanks for posting it
@class50thrasher Жыл бұрын
Ah great to hear a valenta bursting into life
@Sparky-Tim8 жыл бұрын
Reminds my of the old Diesel Rail Cars that used to do the Reading-Redhill -Tonbridge run in the 80's. Cold & smelly in the winter.
@lewiemcneely9143
8 жыл бұрын
Old Cats with the pony motors were the same way.
@itzyaboialli0072 жыл бұрын
I subscribed to you, keep up with the good work
@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla63333 жыл бұрын
Great video. ☺️ I just subscribed to your KZread channel. ☺️
@porno63614 жыл бұрын
Blimey,don’t let greenpeace see this vid
@joshwestwood37275 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Screaming valentas rather than the Clunking valentas.
@mickg80703 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my bone joints first thing in the morning.
@jackstrainchannel2252 Жыл бұрын
Sounds Good!
@basiltaylor89105 жыл бұрын
That poor Paxman knocking horribly ,like Hugh Hefner on weed.
@ruffshayv4363
4 жыл бұрын
You mean like hugh hefner in a filing cabinet!
@emt430434 жыл бұрын
Theirs nowt finer then the sound the daddy off all power cars starting up cold really dose tug at your hart strings
@jacknorman58165 жыл бұрын
Do you ever add new videos?
@nomon956 жыл бұрын
Starts in only one cylinder,and the other problem is the fuel detonation,,caused by the huge force that the piston make to run,,,the fuel doesnt do the diesel cycle,,the fuel dont burn gradually,,,the engine rotate some degres,and an amount of fuel ignites very fast,and the result is detonation,,,,,,same as the otto cycle when detonation occurs. may break a piston this issue. Another problenm if the engine is old,,,may measure the compression ratio,that may be higher than 15:1 If the compression ratio isnt equal in all the cylinders is a problem,,,some cylinders fire quickly and the others no..as this case.. but for start the engine more fast, a preheater may be installed,,and warm the coolant water,.to 50 or more celcious degrees,,this help the engine to start quicly. the clag is generated because the fuel didnt ignite ,it is converted in steam fuel,very flammable and white colour.The clag may remain until all the cylinders work. When the exhaust smoke is blue colour,is a ring problems or an oil leakage,by the valves seals.Black smoke means fuel incomplete burnt.
@nigelterry92996 жыл бұрын
If this was released as a HipHop "tune".........
@BegudMaximan-zp2tc11 ай бұрын
That was a struggle but got there eventually
@chrisbroesky2932 Жыл бұрын
Bloody hell! I don't think us Americans know what a cold start is.
@almilhouse90592 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the wheels going over the track joints at the start.....
@ElectronikHeart10 жыл бұрын
Lol starting on only one cylinder. Thanks god one cylinder has taken his courage to save the battery ! What kind of engine is installed in this one ?
@formidable38
10 жыл бұрын
V12 Paxman Valenta 79 Litre. As per the original.
@lewiemcneely9143
8 жыл бұрын
Good engines!
@CX25GTIT2
6 жыл бұрын
ElectronikHeart que
@tomgauntlestrange
6 жыл бұрын
no idea, but i'm guessing it would fail its MOT emissions test
@nickgodfrey1973
5 жыл бұрын
Well it doesn't meet Euro 6 to start with...
@AllianceB958 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate! I dont get it... Why dont they install a preheater to keep the coolant at a steady 50celsius would make the engine last alot longer. This 1 cilinder stuff takes aprox 300.000km of the engine's life. The Rabbits in Germany (DB Class 218 have it and some of them still have thier original MTU 12V956 TB10 engine which is aprox 45-48years old now.) Everyone loves this Valenta why not preserve it in a humane way and prevent enginedamage You can hear the bearings complain. When they first rev it up. A 10 minute idle followed by a gentle rev would be ideal. Anyways what a great clag!
@FGW43037
8 жыл бұрын
+DieselHeart BR218 Preheater is on the list.. (install already started) There was one lumpy cylinder in this video which the injector pump (just changed) was over egging - can hear it thumping, part of the reason for startup was so I could adjust. This was our first experience at properly cold starting... I can now get it up to idle in about 10 seconds without too much coughing and banging.
@AllianceB95
8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Webber Exelent. This beast has to be preserved at her best.
@petepaget2796
8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Webber Was you wearing ear defenders
@petergemmeke2867
8 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the bearings you hear knocking, but it's the sound of inproper combustion of the diesel fuel.
@AllianceB95
8 жыл бұрын
It sounds painfull :P
@boobajz750410 жыл бұрын
engines from ČKD factory are best!!!
@rabinmovies10 жыл бұрын
Is it normal for it to start so slowly?
@FGW43037
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, when cold.
@simonssparestrings89102 жыл бұрын
sounds like my old vauxhaull
@mruari7380 Жыл бұрын
I heard that this car still has a valenta in it.
@mikeking25392 жыл бұрын
Sounds like some Seriously bad piston knock, and also people say that steam locos make a lot of smoke
@restojon16 жыл бұрын
Belligerent old bugger on startup, isn't it?
@andyrowlands500298 жыл бұрын
Sounds great when running, but that banging about at the beginning sounded horrendous, surely that can't be good for an engine?
@Sephy69
8 жыл бұрын
+andyrowlands50029 its dreadful
@LandAnchor
5 жыл бұрын
You’re right it isn’t good for the longevity of the engine. The knocking you hear is the piston(s) knocking as further heat is generated before all the fuel ignites.
@macfletcherhotmail
4 жыл бұрын
That's a typical large diesel engine the warmer they get the softer they sound
@paulypyro Жыл бұрын
there are small volcanoes with less smoke than that lol.....great loco tho
@22fret3 жыл бұрын
No glowplugs?
@CreRay
8 ай бұрын
Nope
@MRclassrailfanMG Жыл бұрын
i don't know why the smoke coming out form nearly at the head of the locomotive
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
Because that's....... where the exhaust is
@tarktunc7488 ай бұрын
Trombonee
@bionictrowel61356 жыл бұрын
next time try bump starting it
@skoda12btp10 жыл бұрын
think she was having a grumpy start
@ontrackrailfilms1652
10 жыл бұрын
Bit like the wife on most mornings then.
@lewiemcneely9143
8 жыл бұрын
Don't ler her read this or you'll have a grumpy life for a while.
@christopherhampson2652 жыл бұрын
Paxton ?
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
*Paxman.
@LandAnchor
2 ай бұрын
*Paxman yeah
@FinnMikazukiVT-kl5lp4 ай бұрын
hello next time leave class 41 in normal idle to let her warm up and then leave the rpm in normal idle when she started up
@retiredpainter2594 жыл бұрын
The Tundberg express
@dgattenb10 жыл бұрын
That was slow!!!!
@Adam-jf6gs5 жыл бұрын
They should of put in a VP185 Engine in it instead... Good Video...
@wurlyone4685
3 жыл бұрын
You must be kidding! That power car was built to have a Valenta and there is absolutely nothing that sounds as good as one!
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
NO NO NO NO NO
@steviesteve750 Жыл бұрын
As an engineer, this makes me cry. All that aluminium and steel with tolerance gaps that were specced for stable running, and you thrash the shit out of it cold. Watch the big American diesels do it so much better with their block pre heat tech.
@gokceralp
Жыл бұрын
This is seen only in some British locos. For example; Class 55s and 31s begin o run very easy and quickly when cold.
@davidgibbings6085 Жыл бұрын
Greta would love this not😂bet she’s been in a train pulled buy one though , 🤣🤣🤣
@normken8 жыл бұрын
What a bag of chisels.
@Sephy6910 жыл бұрын
Poor thing. Should be block heated or actually fixed and serviced before attempting to start it :(
@FGW43037
10 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with it, so your comments about it being 'fixed and serviced' are un-just. Most mainline diesels behave in exactly the same manner when cold started on a depot.
@cidertom5140
10 жыл бұрын
this loco has been restored and has a brand new original 0 hours engine fresh from paxman
@Hannah_taylor1237
10 жыл бұрын
cidertom the engine was taken out of a fgw hst when thay had mtu engines fitted (The powercar will also receive installation of production Paxman Valenta RP200L engine Number S508 (installed new into 43153 in 2001 under Virgin CrossCountry, before re-installation to 43143 of First Great Western after a spell in storage), donated to the NRM from the MTU re-power programme. This will mark a sooner return to traffic of a Paxman Valenta powercar than previously expected. The work is currently being undertaken at East Midlands Trains HST depot Neville Hill T&RSMD. taken from wikipedia)
@cidertom5140
8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the additional information you have provided here very useful one hell of a grumpy startup and of course awesome clag
@pralkatv34855 жыл бұрын
I can see two engines and one UFO trying to ignite antimaterial-hyper-plasma motor :)
@northlondonbusenthusiast59375 жыл бұрын
love the sound but 41s are disgusting
@cameronjohnston31863 жыл бұрын
It can’t be doing the engine any good whatsoever.
@jacovanlith50826 жыл бұрын
Not so smart boy.
@dnadon92832 жыл бұрын
Wow trains are big time polluters 😂 I know this video about 6 years ago 😂
@Schlipperschlopper5 жыл бұрын
Why must modern locomotives look cheap and ugly as hell??
@utharkruna1116
3 жыл бұрын
The cockpit looks like a porta loo.
@imbatman2868
3 жыл бұрын
It was built in the 70s prototype to the hst I saw it many times at Derby
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
'Modern' *built in 1972*
@CreRay
8 ай бұрын
Haha modern you say
@zodiotekgaming7 жыл бұрын
0:37 video was ruined by some little chav bopping his head in the shot.
@supa_hot_ice5449
6 жыл бұрын
LOL feel the same way
@leehayes703 жыл бұрын
What a nail. Scrap it for gods sake..
@nickgodfrey1973
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you scrap a perfectly running and operational, preserved prototype?
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
It's a cold start of what is essentially a marine diesel engine that gets started probably less than once per year. This is normal.
@leehayes70
Жыл бұрын
@@Danse_Macabre_125 anything that is used just once a year and produces that much crap needs to be ripped to bits and scrapped.
@evilnigga68
Жыл бұрын
@@leehayes70 many people believe that one of the main purposes in life is to preserve human history. if you want this ""junk"" scrapped, you quite literally want to destroy one of the two prototype locomotives that revolutionised british high speed rail travel. also you should maybe get a fact check, as if you get every claggy train that has ever ran, not just in britain but all over the world, the total environmental damage would not even compare to what cars and especially lorries / semi trucks have caused. leave ships, aircraft and trains alone, focus on lorries and cars. good day :)
@leehayes70
Жыл бұрын
@@evilnigga68 That’s about as profound as a green lettuce.. Any vehicle that produces that much crap just to get it started needs to cut up into bits and re used for something else..
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This perfectly replicates me trying to wake up in the morning.
Am I the only one who loves the sound of this cold start? Sure it's bad for the power plant, but THAT SOUND!
@cameronjohnston3186
2 жыл бұрын
Doing the power unit no good whatsoever
Amazing. Can hear those cylinders. Beautiful.
She is so beautiful and I love her so much 😍♥️
Thought it was just EE engines where the cylinders join in one by one. Excellent vid!!!!
British locomotives have some the most unique sounds
Love the engine drum 😂👍!
What an absolute racket-and a lot of clag!
Have you owned a valenta engine in the last ten years if so you may be eligible for compensation due to misleading emissions data don't call now or ever ... seriously now I always come back to this video thanks for posting it
Ah great to hear a valenta bursting into life
Reminds my of the old Diesel Rail Cars that used to do the Reading-Redhill -Tonbridge run in the 80's. Cold & smelly in the winter.
@lewiemcneely9143
8 жыл бұрын
Old Cats with the pony motors were the same way.
I subscribed to you, keep up with the good work
Great video. ☺️ I just subscribed to your KZread channel. ☺️
Blimey,don’t let greenpeace see this vid
I prefer the Screaming valentas rather than the Clunking valentas.
Sounds like my bone joints first thing in the morning.
Sounds Good!
That poor Paxman knocking horribly ,like Hugh Hefner on weed.
@ruffshayv4363
4 жыл бұрын
You mean like hugh hefner in a filing cabinet!
Theirs nowt finer then the sound the daddy off all power cars starting up cold really dose tug at your hart strings
Do you ever add new videos?
Starts in only one cylinder,and the other problem is the fuel detonation,,caused by the huge force that the piston make to run,,,the fuel doesnt do the diesel cycle,,the fuel dont burn gradually,,,the engine rotate some degres,and an amount of fuel ignites very fast,and the result is detonation,,,,,,same as the otto cycle when detonation occurs. may break a piston this issue. Another problenm if the engine is old,,,may measure the compression ratio,that may be higher than 15:1 If the compression ratio isnt equal in all the cylinders is a problem,,,some cylinders fire quickly and the others no..as this case.. but for start the engine more fast, a preheater may be installed,,and warm the coolant water,.to 50 or more celcious degrees,,this help the engine to start quicly. the clag is generated because the fuel didnt ignite ,it is converted in steam fuel,very flammable and white colour.The clag may remain until all the cylinders work. When the exhaust smoke is blue colour,is a ring problems or an oil leakage,by the valves seals.Black smoke means fuel incomplete burnt.
If this was released as a HipHop "tune".........
That was a struggle but got there eventually
Bloody hell! I don't think us Americans know what a cold start is.
Sounds like the wheels going over the track joints at the start.....
Lol starting on only one cylinder. Thanks god one cylinder has taken his courage to save the battery ! What kind of engine is installed in this one ?
@formidable38
10 жыл бұрын
V12 Paxman Valenta 79 Litre. As per the original.
@lewiemcneely9143
8 жыл бұрын
Good engines!
@CX25GTIT2
6 жыл бұрын
ElectronikHeart que
@tomgauntlestrange
6 жыл бұрын
no idea, but i'm guessing it would fail its MOT emissions test
@nickgodfrey1973
5 жыл бұрын
Well it doesn't meet Euro 6 to start with...
Great vid mate! I dont get it... Why dont they install a preheater to keep the coolant at a steady 50celsius would make the engine last alot longer. This 1 cilinder stuff takes aprox 300.000km of the engine's life. The Rabbits in Germany (DB Class 218 have it and some of them still have thier original MTU 12V956 TB10 engine which is aprox 45-48years old now.) Everyone loves this Valenta why not preserve it in a humane way and prevent enginedamage You can hear the bearings complain. When they first rev it up. A 10 minute idle followed by a gentle rev would be ideal. Anyways what a great clag!
@FGW43037
8 жыл бұрын
+DieselHeart BR218 Preheater is on the list.. (install already started) There was one lumpy cylinder in this video which the injector pump (just changed) was over egging - can hear it thumping, part of the reason for startup was so I could adjust. This was our first experience at properly cold starting... I can now get it up to idle in about 10 seconds without too much coughing and banging.
@AllianceB95
8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Webber Exelent. This beast has to be preserved at her best.
@petepaget2796
8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Webber Was you wearing ear defenders
@petergemmeke2867
8 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's the bearings you hear knocking, but it's the sound of inproper combustion of the diesel fuel.
@AllianceB95
8 жыл бұрын
It sounds painfull :P
engines from ČKD factory are best!!!
Is it normal for it to start so slowly?
@FGW43037
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, when cold.
sounds like my old vauxhaull
I heard that this car still has a valenta in it.
Sounds like some Seriously bad piston knock, and also people say that steam locos make a lot of smoke
Belligerent old bugger on startup, isn't it?
Sounds great when running, but that banging about at the beginning sounded horrendous, surely that can't be good for an engine?
@Sephy69
8 жыл бұрын
+andyrowlands50029 its dreadful
@LandAnchor
5 жыл бұрын
You’re right it isn’t good for the longevity of the engine. The knocking you hear is the piston(s) knocking as further heat is generated before all the fuel ignites.
@macfletcherhotmail
4 жыл бұрын
That's a typical large diesel engine the warmer they get the softer they sound
there are small volcanoes with less smoke than that lol.....great loco tho
No glowplugs?
@CreRay
8 ай бұрын
Nope
i don't know why the smoke coming out form nearly at the head of the locomotive
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
Because that's....... where the exhaust is
Trombonee
next time try bump starting it
think she was having a grumpy start
@ontrackrailfilms1652
10 жыл бұрын
Bit like the wife on most mornings then.
@lewiemcneely9143
8 жыл бұрын
Don't ler her read this or you'll have a grumpy life for a while.
Paxton ?
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
*Paxman.
@LandAnchor
2 ай бұрын
*Paxman yeah
hello next time leave class 41 in normal idle to let her warm up and then leave the rpm in normal idle when she started up
The Tundberg express
That was slow!!!!
They should of put in a VP185 Engine in it instead... Good Video...
@wurlyone4685
3 жыл бұрын
You must be kidding! That power car was built to have a Valenta and there is absolutely nothing that sounds as good as one!
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
NO NO NO NO NO
As an engineer, this makes me cry. All that aluminium and steel with tolerance gaps that were specced for stable running, and you thrash the shit out of it cold. Watch the big American diesels do it so much better with their block pre heat tech.
@gokceralp
Жыл бұрын
This is seen only in some British locos. For example; Class 55s and 31s begin o run very easy and quickly when cold.
Greta would love this not😂bet she’s been in a train pulled buy one though , 🤣🤣🤣
What a bag of chisels.
Poor thing. Should be block heated or actually fixed and serviced before attempting to start it :(
@FGW43037
10 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with it, so your comments about it being 'fixed and serviced' are un-just. Most mainline diesels behave in exactly the same manner when cold started on a depot.
@cidertom5140
10 жыл бұрын
this loco has been restored and has a brand new original 0 hours engine fresh from paxman
@Hannah_taylor1237
10 жыл бұрын
cidertom the engine was taken out of a fgw hst when thay had mtu engines fitted (The powercar will also receive installation of production Paxman Valenta RP200L engine Number S508 (installed new into 43153 in 2001 under Virgin CrossCountry, before re-installation to 43143 of First Great Western after a spell in storage), donated to the NRM from the MTU re-power programme. This will mark a sooner return to traffic of a Paxman Valenta powercar than previously expected. The work is currently being undertaken at East Midlands Trains HST depot Neville Hill T&RSMD. taken from wikipedia)
@cidertom5140
8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the additional information you have provided here very useful one hell of a grumpy startup and of course awesome clag
I can see two engines and one UFO trying to ignite antimaterial-hyper-plasma motor :)
love the sound but 41s are disgusting
It can’t be doing the engine any good whatsoever.
Not so smart boy.
Wow trains are big time polluters 😂 I know this video about 6 years ago 😂
Why must modern locomotives look cheap and ugly as hell??
@utharkruna1116
3 жыл бұрын
The cockpit looks like a porta loo.
@imbatman2868
3 жыл бұрын
It was built in the 70s prototype to the hst I saw it many times at Derby
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
'Modern' *built in 1972*
@CreRay
8 ай бұрын
Haha modern you say
0:37 video was ruined by some little chav bopping his head in the shot.
@supa_hot_ice5449
6 жыл бұрын
LOL feel the same way
What a nail. Scrap it for gods sake..
@nickgodfrey1973
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you scrap a perfectly running and operational, preserved prototype?
@Danse_Macabre_125
Жыл бұрын
It's a cold start of what is essentially a marine diesel engine that gets started probably less than once per year. This is normal.
@leehayes70
Жыл бұрын
@@Danse_Macabre_125 anything that is used just once a year and produces that much crap needs to be ripped to bits and scrapped.
@evilnigga68
Жыл бұрын
@@leehayes70 many people believe that one of the main purposes in life is to preserve human history. if you want this ""junk"" scrapped, you quite literally want to destroy one of the two prototype locomotives that revolutionised british high speed rail travel. also you should maybe get a fact check, as if you get every claggy train that has ever ran, not just in britain but all over the world, the total environmental damage would not even compare to what cars and especially lorries / semi trucks have caused. leave ships, aircraft and trains alone, focus on lorries and cars. good day :)
@leehayes70
Жыл бұрын
@@evilnigga68 That’s about as profound as a green lettuce.. Any vehicle that produces that much crap just to get it started needs to cut up into bits and re used for something else..