Uploading this a little early tonight because I'm off to see Drake play at the o2 in London! Here are 4 ways to process your drum group that you may or may not be doing already so either you learn or your confirm :) There is also a little trick hidden in the first part which I know is popular - I didn't go into it in too much detail but that because I would like to do a dedicated video on it... still not sure what I'm talking about? enjoy the vid!

@hushedtones7168

5 жыл бұрын

weird flex but ok

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

@@hushedtones7168 lol

@scruffylife

5 жыл бұрын

Enjoy the show brother!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Andres velasquez thanks bud!!

@pstephens__

5 жыл бұрын

@@NoizeLondon Is there a specific reason you created a return for your parallel compression instead of using the "Dry/Wet" knob on the compressor?

"How to make your drums PHAT" *Proceeds to only use hihat and a shaker as the sample

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Check out my redemption video... I know I did wrong ;) kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4qGq9qye8jOoLA.html

@rivermana

4 жыл бұрын

hahah I went kind of mad when I realised there were no kicks not gonna lie. Also kind of weird doing a mix with no context of the whole track...but what do I know

@simonriley983

4 жыл бұрын

And an anorexic clap

@mdhak

4 жыл бұрын

honestly wtf did i just watch, this was pure percussion fail

@hdrtshrd

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoizeLondon that was gold subscribed

I appreciate creators who use stock plugins only, thank you for that 😊

I have about six months' worth of experience with Ableton and there's a much easier way to fatten drums with a stock plug-in. Drum Buss. Has a compressor, transient shaper and tone controls and it's as a whole much more beginner-friendly than fine-tuning gain stages in two locations. I'm not an engineer by the way, I'm a drummer. :)

@NoizeLondon

2 жыл бұрын

This was before drumbuss but yes I agree!!

@tenaibms

2 жыл бұрын

@@NoizeLondon you use drum buss in the video o.O

@christiansmith8917

Жыл бұрын

I was about to say the same exact thing and then realized this was 4 years ago lol

@user-bp1gx3qt3o

Жыл бұрын

?? he literally uses drum buss in the video lol

the red indicator on the glue compressor only indicates that the signal is going above 0dB, it won't actually affect the audio until you turn the soft clip button on. you can tell by looking at the mini meters in between the plugins; when you cranked the sound on the makeup gain it shows the signal level turning red (>0dB) while the soft clip was off and then going back to yellow (right at or just below 0dB) when turned on

Awesome tutorial this. Feels easy to follow and very polished. Feel like I finally have a grasp on the various types of compression!

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charlie - glad you enjoyed it :)

This helped make my drums so much more prominent. Thank you for the video and for the advice! Appreciated.

Some great tips on compression here. In your example of parallel processing with aggressive compression was terrific. I could clearly hear the difference with that.

@NoizeLondon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud

this is helpful.. The idea of doing many small things rather than one or 2 big things makes a huge difference and i love it

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

It’s all about the subtleties;) So glad you enjoyed it!! Thanks for watching :)

so subtle but so professional, i love it. from 90% of the way there to 100%

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steven :)

Outstanding!! I've been been looking for that drum sound for a long time ago.

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for watching Neni :)

I love your tutorials they are so helpful. Thank you!

Very cool. Love the delivery of the information; very practical and helpful 💯

Love the parallel compression jawn! thank you so much :)

I found this video very professionally produced. I like that KZread recommended me a fairly small channel that I didn't know about, that seems to be on the rise. Subscribed! I would have liked some tips on making kick drums *fat* though. Keep it up!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud! Do you mean individual drums?

@pedrodevoto

5 жыл бұрын

@@NoizeLondon Yeah, like kick drums alone. Or a drum beat like in this video, but one that has kicks!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Pedro Devoto ok sure thing bud stay tuned will do it soon :)

@hennytv1410

5 жыл бұрын

Really liked this video as well, can't wait for a video on kicks and/or snares :)

This was cool. I followed along and definitely fattened up some drums in a much more interesting way than I usually do, and made some racks that I can come back to and use on any drums going forward! Very informative watch. Cheers.

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Great dude!! Thanks for watching 😁

Why are you trying to "fatten up" a high passed loop to begin with. You'll get more results giving us an example with a kick and a snare. You should pick some completely dry 808 or 909 drums, make a full loop then show people what the effects will do.

@ThisIsTheInternet

5 жыл бұрын

Because he's a KZreadr

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

I’m going to do a separate video on kick and snare as they require different processing. The compressor on a drum group can be compromised if the kick and snare are fed into it hence why I’ve kept them separate. Thank you for your input and I look forward to making this video for you!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

The Internet indeed I am ;)

@PakessoMukash

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it took me waaaaaay too long to realize there were going to be no kicks or snares to ever be found. "Drums" 😂 I think I still learned something though...

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

@@PakessoMukash Glad you did thanks for tuning in :)

An excellent and crystal clear insight into a topic I’m trying to improve on. Another request for widening the stereo field too, especially how to apply mid/side processing

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Simon - you are one of many who has requested a video on widening so it will be coming soon! Thanks for the support.

absolutley spot on thanks for doing this and sharing your awesome wisdom !!!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome !! Thanks for the support 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Amazing video!!! Thank you so much ,keep it going!!!

Thank you dude, really smooth, professional processing. More attention should be given to these stellar Ableton stock plugins, instead of buying all these crazy expensive 3rd party ones

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude ;)

Thank you for sticking to just the stock stuff. Inspiring channel!!!!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Will do more stock stuff if you like !! :)

Just re-watched this: real help. Thank you Fabio!

This is a great video tutorial teaching us how to use the Ableton live tools. Thanks

great cideo !! i love your informative and complete way of teaching

Hey, this video helps me a lot, I just wanted to thank you !

Your videos are awesome and so helpful. Keep it up! I'd love to see a video about widening the stereo sound signature of a track.

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Joe - this is actually the second request I've had for widening so I will try and publish a vlog on it on Tuesday! Please let me know if you have any other topics you would like covered - more than happy to help.

I have been using Ableton for about a year now and still use the stock plugins. They are the best.

This is a next level Tutorial. Thank you so much for this

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome buddy - thank you for watching :)

This was tremendously helpful - thank you so much. It was so well done that I am going to check your other videos. Anyone who has true studio quality speakers can hear how much difference there is. I can.

Yes mate, brilliant! Thank you :)

this is very helpful. thank you so much

Great content, great execution; overall a great quality tutorial!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Michael - please let me know if there are any other topics you would like to see covered

Nice video! i'll be sure to make use of this in the next track i make, a subtle but effective effect chain!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Nice one dude ! :)

Sick video mate! Really helpful tips

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome Sam! Thanks for the support

Another great video, clean and simple thanks!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching buddy!

Thanks man, the last trick is genius and so simple!!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

No problem man :) my pleasure !

Great video. I liked the first part with combining glue and utility. Going to try that. Subscribed 4 sure

@NoizeLondon

3 жыл бұрын

✌️

Really helpful video! Thank you so much!

Great Advice! Thanks for the info

Amazing Video. Thank you so much 🎉❤

thank you, helped heaps.

he has such a wonderful voice to listen to, very studious :D

Been using ableton for 4-5 years and I still found this pretty helpful. Good stuff!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Really glad that I could help bud!! :)

Thank you for this great video ! :)

we are learning everyday ! thanks. merci :)

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome!! :)

Thanks for the vid! :) What's the advantage of using parallel compression via send/return instead of having the same compressor on the group using the dry/wet function?

This video has changed my life!

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Woohoo!

Great stuff! Thanks a lot!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching !

Awesome video!!

thank you for your Compressor explanation

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!!

Recommended. Great vid.

thank you, it's helpful

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You are most welcome 🙏🏼

Great tutorial, this channel looks promising great job

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Josh!!!

Very nice and high quality video, look forward to see more and more video ! That's gonna be an awesome KZread Channel for sure !

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy !!

Hi, thank you for making this. When do you anticipate part 2 will be done?

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Check out my video “mixing your drums” ;)

What type of sound this very techno sound is, that you hear on the 3rd beat every 4 bar ? How to achieve it? Thank you :)

DRUM bus was my hero to make the difference between my past drums....thx a lot

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

you're welcome dude!!!

Really good video bro! The only suggestion I have is you should do all that processing in context with the song bc at the end of the day that’s all that matters !

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You’re totally right dude - here is a link to the finished record m.soundcloud.com/flux_xo/gypsy-woman-flux-remix/s-ieoo0

That-s a great video. Thanks mate

@NoizeLondon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy

Thanks man, great video with no gimmicks, no expensive plugins, and good sound. Where can we listen to your music?

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Carlo, thanks so much I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm currently working on a personal music project with some very exciting artists which I will reveal soon. In the meantime you can check out my website if you like to listen to artists that I engineer for. www.noizemusic.io ;)

Saturator is a great plugin. I love the Color Limiter which is a Max4Live device. Sounds great on drums!

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

I will check that out - is it free?

@bobbydylan

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoizeLondon yea, should be apart of one of the max4live packs. As long as you have the top Ableton package.

nice! Thank you!

this is like the "today i found out" of dance music production aha

Great video thanks

Great video , great channel . Thanks.

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Julien!

Interestingly although i had little no hiss on my original drum bus the parallel compression ended up causing a very large amount with these settings. I was able to remove most of the hiss with waves X-noise I'm pretty sure it was to do with amount of compressors on my various reverb and effects tracks.

@glock18glory

Жыл бұрын

I have heard of issues arsiing from using return tracks. Sometimes in groups too. Could you accomplish the same by making a split audio rack with a dry and wet signal?

This is fantastic, night/day difference

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tee - glad you enjoyed :)

really gonna buy your course this video really made my day hope u return to Canada soon

@NoizeLondon

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! Lots more courses coming soon too… watch this space ☺️

Great tutorial :)

Question, maybe this was answered, but why use a return track for the parrel compression vs doing a 2nd single chain on the insert and blending it that way?

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Bad habits ;) also good for being able to send multiple tracks to the same parallel processing and less CPU heavy :)

I have watched my fair share of mix tutorials. Even bought some. The biggest difference to me here is that we actually ear what you are doing. A lot of tutorials you barely ear the difference. Kudos to you on this. I'll be watching more

so with or without parallel comp. what's the difference ? when i put your para-comp settings, it's like 'breathe sound' of my drums.

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

By compressing the front of the transient really hard you crush the signal basically making it flat and dynamic-less. When mixing it into your original signal you will add more sustain and at times harmonic distortion depending on the compressor you use for the parallel chain

The trick on parallel was great!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alexandre!

I appreciate this video. I love my Push 2

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

I appreciate you!! Will do some videos on push soon :)

BRILLIANT.... thanks mate

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

you are most welcome!

Dope channel man 🙏

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you buddy! :)

Nice video hadn't heard of you before..subscribed!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude I’m new to this :)

When I do the parallel compression thing, I suddenly can hear a ton of white noise out of the compressor when nothing is playing, sounds like the compressor really pushes the background noise

* disclaimer * no drums were used in this whole video.

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

hahaha... we should probably stop calling it a kick drum then eh?

@mike-Occslong

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@EBMZEQUENZER

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like a Logic user sabotage

@mae4712

4 жыл бұрын

@@EBMZEQUENZER LMAAAOO

Great editing!

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude!!

Great video!

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude !!

props for using utility plugin for unity after soft clipping

a parallel is much easier in Ableton using chains in a rack group, put one with nothing on it and add a chain with the extreme compression, than add the wanted volume

Haha I always go crazy with the drum bus, though usually in the sound design stage than in mixing/mastering everything at the end. It may be "gimmicky" but there's a lot you can do with it.

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You're totally right - its definitely something that should be used in a sound design approach rather than for finesse but I do think that some people are lured by the name 'Drum Buss' and who out there isn't looking for a quick fix haha ;)

THANKS BRO ☺

Great vid, do you always exclude your kick when compressing your drums?

@dusa605

2 жыл бұрын

I’d like to hear that answer as well lol

Im a bit confused about the parallel compression. When I copied your settings in the return tracks compressor it caused a ton of distortion and my compressor was red lining. It sounded like shit basically. Any idea why? I did it just like you..

Should i go with ableton? Ive decided to track/mix/master (learn to). Please help me out hehe

I'm almost sure this is not possible but im asking anyway, could that be applied in other kindda stuff like basses or something like that?

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Yes hypothetically

You did something in between adding EQ8 and the drum bus that was the only change that made a noticeable difference, but didn't show what you changed.

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

might've tweaked it a little

Do you do more gain reduction after the parallel comp?

Can i apply the chain process to kick and 808 bass ?

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

You can but I think there could be a better approach to this.

Great video. Is there any reason why you use a return track for your parallel compression instead of an audio effect rack with two chains?

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Good question! - Sometimes I do both but totally depends on the project. What's useful about having a return track is that I can send other elements to the parallel compressor if necessary. It can also reduce the amount of processing on your computer which can become rather heavy if you're creating a lot of audio effect racks!

@ExiledMango

5 жыл бұрын

and it's also actually the way you would parallel compress in a real studio mixing desk (using a bus or return track), think about it, those do not have effect racks - it's just the beauty of ableton

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

ExiledMango another great point. Thank you Exiled Mango

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

puppiesinspace shouldn’t do, unless you’re using a very processor heavy plugin such as linear phase EQ

Great vid! Perhaps next time show it w the mix of the track? Or even w the kick. I'd love to hear the difference it makes there.

🔥 subscribed

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support

Also, at the 4 minute mark, are you adding a utility with -10db because of headroom within the mix?

Nice tutorial man! Thanks for this 😁

@NoizeLondon

5 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome buddy!

I have a problem with the last trick, when I send the drum group to the return channel, it starts to make a lot of noise, do you know why that happens? Hope you can help, great video btw!

@NoizeLondon

4 жыл бұрын

hmmmm maybe turn down the return channel volume?

Is there an equivalent to drum buss in live 9 standard?