On a Yawl, the mizzen is a steering sail, and as mentioned is there to help with a weather helm, and will keep you into the wind at anchor. As the fishermen would haul in the nets, the mizzen sail keeps the bow to the wind. To come about, just deploy a headsail and let her come around to port or starboard by hauling the mizzen boom in the opposite direction. It's also great to hold her into the wind while deploying the main and foresails. I've sailed a friend's Hinckley 35 yawl, sweet boat, it's very similar to the legendary Hinckley 35 Pilot, one of the finest lady's to sail the seven seas.

@tomboyle7068

2 жыл бұрын

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Nice summary (and I note The Hambbo’s comment). It’s interesting that pre-steam and diesel, small vessels which needed speed.and good sea-keeping - customs patrol vessels, pilot boats etc. - tended to cutter rig giving more sail options. Also, a yawl is differentiated by having the small, steering sail mast a aft the rudder post - behind not ahead of it.

on a yawl you can use the mizzen sail as a rudder if the rudder breaks, which happens more than a lot of people think, and that is a total disaster in the high seas!

Well done video. Even i have a low level of English I've understood the difference between types of boats.

What a great place for all of us, crouch cruisers, to hangout. Day dreaming of sailing one day. BTW, nice videos. Liked and subscribed.

I have sailed all 4 rigs and like what you said about all except the Yawl. I see several people already caught the error about the mast being behind the rudder but having sailed a 76 foot Morgan Yawl in several oceans I can tell you it's not a useless sail. In a following wind it works to steer the boat. Under power heading directly into the wind the mizzen really reduces the roll and stabilizes the boat. In a reach with heavy winds the Mizzen and Stay are a great choice. It's also a perfect crane to list the tender out of the water. So don't dismiss it as useless.

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Hearing from someone with first hand experience is great!

@JMac910

5 жыл бұрын

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@tumbletoes909

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. I’ll second that from the other end of the range: mine is a Drascombe Lugger, a dingy really. Same observations about the mizzen all apply.

@okaynope5197

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that is what he said the mizzen sail does verbatim

Hey, loved the title Couch Criuser, right up my ally as I'm a eighty year old dreamer but can talk the talk, well you never know " one day " ha ha

@danturner4709

5 жыл бұрын

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I'm just a wipper-snapper eleven years younger.

@castorscadence2113

5 жыл бұрын

This has to be the happiest post I have read this month.. You are a champ Ge0ffrey

@DevoutFollowerofYeshua

3 жыл бұрын

Hey a little sail boat behind your car and off to the lake for a sail! 😊⛵️

I love the name. I'm a fellow couch cruiser who has been saving and looking for a boat for the past two years or so.. That said, I found one i'm looking at that is within my price range and is just a steal!

@MrCurtisass

4 жыл бұрын

nuget102 what did you find? im looking for a trailer sailor with swing keel. gulf coast

Hey great idea, I am at the same stage you are....I think the thrill is in sailing, rather than motoring

Thank you for posting this and yes I just subscribed too. I loved the simplicity you used to explain things. Looking forward to more videos and I hope you get off that couch soon and onto a real boat lol.

You should look at a Solent set up. It is a compromise between a Sloop and a Cutter. Like a cutter it has two head sails but unlike the Cutter which is set up with space to jib your Genoa the second head sail is right up just behind the Genoa with only a few inches between them and runs to the top of the mast. This has the advantage of less expensive rigging because unlike the Cutter you don't need to add additional rigging to shore up the mast at the anchor point for the second head sail. When running with the wind you open the Genoa up Port or Starboard and deploy your Jib on the opposite side. This also eliminates the need for a Spinnaker as well as the Genoa and Jib essentially act like a Spinnaker when deployed in this configuration. When you are heading into the wind you roll the Genoa and use the Jib the way you would on a Sloop. The disadvantage is that if you use smaller sails you will lose more speed into the wind than you will with a cutter or a sloop. That might be a problem if you are racing but if you are simply cruising I don't see it as a big disadvantage.

Correction: A yawl has the mizzen mast AFT of the rudder post. The drawing you show for the yawl is still a ketch.

@halcyonanon

5 жыл бұрын

Correct. They pivot point of the rudder must be forward of the mizzen. In the video, the tiller is forward of the mizzen, but the rudder pivot is still aft. This should be corrected in the video

@dough9512

3 жыл бұрын

I never looked up the definition of a ketch and yawl. I just noticed that on a ketch, the mizzen mast came BEFORE the cockpit, and on a yawl, the mizzen mast came AFTER the cockpit. Ketch before; yawl after. And "k" comes before "y". This is KEY for me!! Similarly, port and left both have four letters; starboard and right both have more than four letters!

@youyouulf

3 жыл бұрын

@@dough9512 lol.. ok, but the true definition has nothing to do with the cockpit. The definition point is the rudder post. Mizzen mast in front of the rudder post makes a ketch, behind makes a yawl.

@tomboyle7068

2 жыл бұрын

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@jp4134

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for saying it. It definitely an error.

Thanks! I was researching on ketch rigs and found your channel. I'm a couch sailor myself for the time being :P Haha! Good idea making such a channel ;)

I gave up flying and took up sailing after retirement due to expense. I found the difference is when flying the terror lasts for seconds or minutes, when sailing it can last hours or days.😊 Welcome aboard.

I've heard discussions about yawl rigs that the small mizzen and rear sail are in fact very useful exactly for that stabilising ability. On every trip you will need to raise and lower sails at the beginning and the end, and having a boat that is stable makes that job very easy. So personally I wouldn't dis the yawl to quickly. I'm also a wannabe sailor, but I want to build a GIS dinghy to learn building and sailing and after that a Francois Vivier Ebihen 15'. Thanks for the vlog.

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. In my research I did come accost the mizzen being used for stability as you mention, especially at anchor to make the boat point into the wind instead of sit to the current. Just for power is pretty small. On the boat building topic I'd highly recommend it. I build a 15' center console and loved the experience. Here's a link to the build video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWWXspOPiZuTido.html The plans were from spirainternational.com/hp_alam.php The GIS looks like a fun build and very do-able for a first one.

@fredkingdom6154

6 жыл бұрын

Tony Vink 7

Cannot go wrong with a masthead sloop with 3 reef main,furling yankee/high footed 120% headsail, removable inner stay with hank on staysails/storm jib, and obviously running backstays, for an all round versatile and adaptable rig, with oversized shrouds for extra security, and a wind vane, these observations are based on an upper 30's low 40's blue water cruising yacht (modified full keel to long keel displacement boats) or alternatively a Solent rig as favoured by Island Packet

Good brief overview, would have liked to see gaff rigs in there. Probably more common than a yawl. Also there is more to that decision. I like ketch boats because they generally have a center cockpit and often an aft cabin.

I have sailed many different rigs over 40 years, the rig I prefer most is the ketch rig for the simple reason that it is so versitle. The only problem with the ketch rig is that the production costs are significantly more so one does not see them like one used to. Best modern ketch rigged vessel, the Amel Super Maramu

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

I do like the center cockpit ketch. I could see myself in a Camper & Nicholsons 44 or Bruce Roberts 45. The ketch rig with a center cockpit just looks salty to me.

Great video. Only 6 outings so far in my new sailing adventures. I like simplicity. May change my mind in the future but looks like the sloop might be my choice.

A yawl's mizzen is used to tune out lee helm. A ketch's mizzen actually assists in driving the boat, but I'd rather a gaff-main schooner at that point, and set more forward. Beyond that, get a crew and sail a brig, or go all the way, and sail a barque or a full-rigged.

On a Yawl the rear mast stands out of the waterline. At classic yachts the hull was much longer as the waterline and the small sail area in the rear of the boat helped to trim the boat, so ruder pressure would be reduced, and the boat goes a bit faster.

I liked it. I am also learning and want to cruise and sail. I think a good video on keels and rudders would be great. Really a whole series on the hull would be amazing.

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Keels are actually next on my list. I've been meaning to get a video up for weeks now on them.

@michaelbruceallen3700

6 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Thank you!

@tomboyle7068

2 жыл бұрын

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Great video. Thank you, very easy to understand video. Now I know what I have.

thank you that was very helpful

So helpful! Love your name! 👐🏽✨

Yawl = mizzen aft of rudder post other than that nice vid!

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah. KZread doesn't let you edit videos after their posted. I added a correction in the description and in the CC. Best I can do without re-record in the video. Thanks for watching and the feedback. I'll have a new video up today as well.

like..thanks great info more than i needed

The difference between a Sloop and a cutter is not the sails... this is a really really common misconception that I keep seeing. A sloop and a cutter are differentiated by mast position. More than %40 back from the bow = cutter. %40 or less = sloop.

@wepowerus1410

3 жыл бұрын

Sloop headsail does not attach at the head to the top of the mast. A cutter attaches at the top of the mast. As well as the comment from the other fellow that the mast position is farther stern.

@stevenr8606

3 жыл бұрын

... as for the head sail, if the sail is attached to the masthead at the same point on a CUTTER then, the rear sail would be a 'Slutter ' sail.

@stevenr8606

3 жыл бұрын

... perhaps this channel can steer you in the correct verbiage: m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4ut1dB-XcKrg7A.html

@OgamiItto70

3 жыл бұрын

Agree with "Ian doe" above. I would further refine the definitions of sloop & cutter as: a sloop's mast is stepped 1/3 of load waterline length or less from forward, whereas a cutter's mast is stepped more than 1/3 load waterline length from forward. It has nothing to do with whether there are bowsprits or staysails on the foredeck or if the forestay goes up to the masthead or not. Sloops can have staysails. They can also have bowsprits. Their forestays can go all the way to the masthead or they can be attached somewhat below that ("fractionally" rigged). The same is also true of cutters, although cutters are rather rarely fractionally rigged. This isn't just some nebulous, vague, hazy opinion but a definition given in recognized, authoritative, established works such as Chapman's _Piloting, Seamanship and Small Boat Handling_ and Royce's _Sailing Illustrated._

Well done. Just move that rudder post on the yawl

Just a few seconds into your video, I have also been trying to find a way to go sailing see if it's something I'd like to do full time. I spent years looking for a chance to crew and in less than a week I start, going from Ohio to the Bahamas

@CouchCruisers

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome! congrats, If you end up doing KZread of it I'd love to see how it is being crew on a boat.

@anonpers0n

2 жыл бұрын

@@CouchCruisers ended up only going across the great lakes and into the Erie canal, the boat I got a crew spot on had a crook of a captain so back to looking for more opportunities

Considering I'm a total Western novice you could say 101 for dummies I think you done a hell of a job! You took the mystery out of everything I need to know on a sale plan and what's the difference between a sloop a yawl a katch etc, thank you very much don't change the damn thing you're informative and simple to understand please keep going just the way you are

Great approach. Good luck with the channel.

@CouchCruisers

2 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

"If you are planing on spending a lot of time sailing upwind" ? That would pretty much be only an eastward circumnavigation, no ? Thanks for great, succinct explanation.

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

That is correct. Most people don't do that as its against prevailing winds. Slower and less comfortable. A good book on the subject is "around the world Sailing Guide" by Alan Phillips. It has common routes and deviations with a timelines. No affiliation, I just liked the book.

Wow great channel!

The points made here about the yawl rig are pretty inaccurate: 1. The yawl mizzen is not just for balancing the boat - it is a small sail and doesn’t provide much drive but it provides some - and it can be used to balance the boat and steer it, hold it into the wind, turn it, make it more stable at anchor and make it self-steering on certain points of sail; 2. The mizzen is not blocked by the main when sailing to windward (that is just a ridiculous claim to make); 3. The mizzen is not any more difficult to set than any other sail. The mizzen can be used to safely reverse the boat under sail. The mizzen also provides a small sail area with a low centre of effort which, with a jib of similar area and the main stowed, is a small, balanced sail-plan that can be very effective in a hard blow. The yawl rig is an extremely handy and well-proven sail plan with a long history and few downsides (however one of these is, for long-distance/blue-water sailing, the challenge of attaching a transom-hung self-steering windvane to a yawl because of the potential conflict with the mizzen sail/boom).

Glad I found this! Great video! PS you also sound like Adam Driver 😎

Great video with an error about the yawl. On a yawl the mizzenmast is aft of the rudderpost. See Chapman Piloting and Seamanship, 68th edition, page 31. Check Craigs List for a used boat and get started. Happy sailing!

@CouchCruisers

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I drew it right but said it wrong.

I just learned that the real difference between a sloop and a cutter is where the mast is placed. If the length of the boat is divided 60% aft / 40% fore, a sloop has it's mast in the fore 40%, a cutter in the aft 60%. Hence a cutter gets a bigger fore triangle and was usually blessed with two sails - and poorer upwind performance.

@tomboyle7068

2 жыл бұрын

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Not bad but if your going into the different types of sail rigs you missed some that might prove beneficial to some. The Fractional sloop where the head sail stops before the top of the mast. Gives very similar performance to a sloop but easier to handle forward sail. You mentioned the Cutter rigged but never touched on the relationship of the mast to the center of the boat to distinguish between a cutter and a sloop. I can't tell the difference looking unless it is really noticeable but if you call someone's Cutter a sloop they are pretty quick to point it out kind of like calling a Chevy a Ford. The last one that you might anted to touch on is the Cat Rig boat. The Mast is right at the Bow and is a single sail type boat. But otherwise a very indepth video well done.

@changodelaporcelainacanada4819

6 жыл бұрын

Good vid!

@Dave-SailsAway

3 жыл бұрын

Ok. This vid has now been up for a while and I just found it. I do hope you have found your way to the water and I a sailboat, ANY sailboat. I have always dreamed of cruising and even blue water sailing. I am in my upper 50s and have started. I bought a 24' sloop, modified full keel (with a Brewery bite!). Boat of this size with a little patina (age) can be had for very little. You can even buy trailerable "weekenders" to learn. I've now been out and about dropping my book for two full seasons and have about 1,000 miles under my nautical belt buckle. Has seen everything but gale conditions. What a great learning tool (getting out and doing). Make your mistakes and learn from them. Each month the mistakes get farther and fewer between and the confidence grows. I hope to be graduating to a 37-40' boat in the next season or two. Caribbean here I come.

Sloop mast location is a point being missed...at or in front of the 40% point of the hull is a SLOOP....behind the 40% mark, cutter!

I'm partial to the motor-sailer rig. (read 'stay sail' , say 'stas'l' ) Slocum used his Mizzen to self steer - a first.

Very instructive, I did like. ? Your thoughts on a pearson 36 ketch 1980?

When i can't be sailing, i sit around researching too. I did this before and after learning to sail. On KZread, there's some good pointers on things like sail trimming and boom preventers on big bluewater yachts. Not much for beginners though. Please make a video about reading wind,leaving and entering dock,etc. in a tiny simple boat with a single mainsail with center of effort directly over a straight keel. Just one sheet and a tiller. That's how people should learn.

@chrisstratton987

Жыл бұрын

Dr., Thank you for keeping the beginners in mind!!!

@drphosferrous

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisstratton987 royces sailing illustrated is good and widely available

This is good guide. But what about the sail Maltesef Falcon uses?

Thank you.😊

Thank you CC, did you pick sloop sail plan for your couch because of the best windward performance or cost of rigging?

Saw a Pacific Sea Craft (for sale) that was cutter rigged with a yawl mast. Very confused configuration as to WHY.

Thanks a lot

Yawls do best with junk sails. lots of square footage and effortless to reef. You're correct about the fishing boats but weather condition handling was a major reason they went to the Grand Banks without radios for weeks on end in Yawls. I've never heard of a heaved-to Yawl getting knocked down.

I think you missed a mayor sail plan in your video: The gaff rig. (either sloop or cutter) I know it's not as popular today, but I would say more so than a yawl or ketch... or maybe that's what i see, as it's what I'm dreaming of. 😊

@seanmalloy7249

3 жыл бұрын

He's describing the types of boat by mast and sail layout. You've got catboats with one mast and one primary sail, sloops with one mast and one headsail and one primary sail, cutters with one mast, one primary sail, and two or more headsails. Then you have two-masted ships, categorized by their mast arrangement. Tallest mast aft is a schooner, tallest mast forward with a much smaller mast aft of the rudder post is a yawl, and tallest mast forward with a mizzenmast closer to the size of the mainmast (and forward of the rudder post) is a ketch. For *all* of these, you can have any of several types of sail rig -- lateen sails, the commonly seen triangular Bermuda or Marconi sails, gaff sails, sprit sails, lug sails, and junk rigs So to properly describe a rig, you need both the sail type and the mast arrangement -- gaff-rigged schooner, Bermuda ketch, etc. There are other variations on two-masted ships, but these start with the variations on square-rigged ships, which are generally much larger, and require considerably more crew to sail.

@110110pab

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanmalloy7249 Thanks, I wandered why gaff rigs weren't mentioned.... now I know. :)

It looks like the rudder is behind the mizzen on the ketch and the yawl. Please explain.

I came across this too late. There are errors here and some major omissions. I like the idea you had for this series, however, so now I shall look at your channel to see how far you've come. For information, I am a retired Naval Architect and Yacht Designer who worked in the field for close to 30 years. I also have many nm of sailing experience in cruising, racing, experimental, and have been involved in historical construction and reconstruction/restoration. Perhaps I may be of some help to you in the information end of things.

@CouchCruisers

2 жыл бұрын

Just saw this. Sorry for the slow response. Feedback is always appreciated. People have commented before "What makes you the expert to post sailing videos". The short answer, my only qualification is possessing an internet connection.

just fyi , the picture representing the yawl, the rudder is behind the rear mast , which should be IN front of the rear mast, the wording in the list is correct though, enjoyed the vid , :), the fun is in the journey, and the destination,

planning on spending a lot of time going upwind? barbarian! :)

What about the single sail plan, as the nonsuch 26' cat rigged sailboats?

Its a bermuda rig the first one and there is 3 sails in that rigging

If you want maximum simplicity, and you are looking for a cruiser - with an inside area- a Catboat has only one mast, one sail.

Full keel .tayana 37 or island packet 27.im stuck between the two

Diagram of Yawl does NOT show rudder post ahead of mizzen ?

i do mis the scooner rigging

So to be a yawl the rudder post must be behind the mizzen mast. I thought it was the other way round the mizzen mast had to be behind the rudder post.

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Good catch! I had the slide right but said it backwards. For a Yawl the mizzen mast is BEHIND the rudder post. I added a correction to the video. Thanks for the feedback!

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Man, and I just looked it up before writing that too. Your spot on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yawl I'll see what I can do to correct the video. KZread doesn't let you edit them so all I could figure out to do was add a closed caption to that section.

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mal, I wish youtube let you edit videos. I'd put some of your Slutter description in and edit the Picture to make it clearer.As for my yacht purchase I'm 18 months into a 5 year plan so some time in 2020 hopefully.

new sailing rig on my channel ....ROTATING SPAR SKIFF ( a new kind of sailing rig )

In a yawl the mizzen is stepped aft of the rudder.

Ok, what's next?

@CouchCruisers

6 жыл бұрын

This video was the first in the series. If you click the logo you can find the other 3 that I've already posted. I'm also working on the next one discussing communication while at sea. I have an awesome idea for the first one of the new year too. "Eating like a cruiser". I'm going to provision for a month with strict restrictions on fridge, freezer, dry storage space and test out a meal plan as if I had to live on those stores for 30 days. Going to track stove, oven, and microwave times to estimate power and gas usage as well. Should be a fun one. I'm also open to suggestions. I don't really have an overall plan. Just kind of meandering through as my fancy takes me.

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Schooner rig ?

I think your drawing of the Yawl rig is wrong as your text says the mizzen mast is behind the rudder post but the drawing shows it as being in front of it

Can you correct picture about yawl @6:40 ? Rudder post should be in front of mizzen mast

@CouchCruisers

5 жыл бұрын

I agree it's wrong. I'd edit I'd I could.

Where is the dhow ship?

Did you go sailing yet?

Did you go yet?

My lug rig dinghy rig is much simpler and much cheaper than the Bermudan sloop rig you show. One halyard, and a main sheet.

2:33 crash cut.

Junk rig? Wing sails?

@argonwheatbelly637

4 жыл бұрын

He's sticking to triangular sails, as opposed to other shapes, and you can have a junk-style furling and rigging on many other sail plans, like ketches and even schooners.

Y ou u left out the cat. Which really has the least to worry about when it comes to number of sails.

FYI you called the Cutter a sloop , good video though

You didn't say anything about the gaff rig.

Junk Rig ?

you cruising yet, hope you are

Gaff rig? Junk rig?

Junk rig?

First thing is budget.

Cat Ketch ...

Incorrect. Mizzenmast behind rudder.on a yawl.

Forgot ONE sail . Look up nonsuch sailboat

Somewhat confusing

So… we are only looking at Marconi / Bermuda sails? If you enter balance lug and gaff rigs more than half of the video gets throw overboard. PS. The simpler sail rig is the single balanced lug. No winches, no stays. Only a halyard and a main sheet. That’s all.

The yawl is no longer common.

lol, a yawl in a list of "common" rigs.

@seanmalloy7249

3 жыл бұрын

He's also missing the catboat, which is a single-masted boat with a single sail, generally with the mast stepped well forward. Catboat rigs are very common among the small recreational 1-4 person boats used for day-sailing, and are probably considerably more common than yawls.

You forgot the junk rig.

False: Cat rig is the least amount of sails and the simplest. You lost me with your first statement.

When it comes to ships, I find steamships really cool, obviously they're not environmentally friendly. Sailboats are more so. When it comes specifically to sailboats, I like how the old merchant ships did their sails.