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@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

If you're interested here's one of a few comments I've added to other comments posted here: OK, I'm a square rig sailor, and generally we get VERY upset when people refer to square rigged vessels as "Pirate Ships!" Pirates used whatever vessels they could acquire, often by pirating them, but Pirates evolved out of sanctioned "Privateers" which were given what were called "Letters of Marque" or other official designations from a sovereign (King or Queen) and thus were sanctioned to "Pirate" shipping of nations that were at war with them or were even political opponents. Queen Elizabeth gave Sir Francis Drake "Letters of Marque" designating him a legal and sanctioned privateer BUT to the Spanish he was rightly an unlawful predator "El Draque" the Dragon and a Pirate. Many of the "legal" privateers (for that particular nation which sanctioned them) went rogue and began preying on vessels of their own nation and all were eventually designated as Pirates when they went rogue or due to political shifts were designated thus by their own nations. So called "Pirate" ships were just the square-rigged ships of the era not different from any standard naval vessel or fighting vessel of the times. They were Ship rigged, Barque rigged and very commonly Brig or Brigantine as they were faster and more agile and better able to harry cumbersome cargo vessels which were lightly armed if at all. Pirates didn't engage with naval vessels unless forced to. Square sails have an advantage as more square footage of canvas can be set per mast than between them in a fore and aft manner, giving more power, lift and drive than is possible with ONLY fore and aft sails on larger long haul cargo carriers of the day. The epitome being the Tea & Opium Clippers (Google/Wikipedia) or read some fine books by Basil Lubbock: The China Clippers, The Blackwall Frigates, The Romance of the Clipper Ships to name but a few. I digress, however. In the Clippers, which were specifically designed to be the epitome of square sail, the distance between the masts was greater which gave them the ability to adjust the angle of the sails to a far finer angle to the wind, called "bracing round" where the spars were pivoted along the vertical axis of the mast in order to catch the wind. It is often mistakenly thought that square sails ONLY fill from behind and PUSH the vessel forward but there are more dynamics of foil and pressure differentials involved with them than fore and aft sails. Square sails act the same way by taking the wind along both surfaces of the sail so that they billow into the desired foil shape. This occurs along the vertical edge of the sail to windward but also with square sails there is also a downward passage of air that contributes some smaller amount of lift. Sailing vessels are more often NOT pushed unless directly downwind but rely on creating the foil shape to the sail and like an airplane wing, create a low pressure on the long side of the foil which creates lift and the vessel is actually drawn forward. HENCE the terms the sail is drawing well or lifting. (The clippers could sail to windward as close as 30 + degrees and the bigger later cargo carriers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries almost as close to the wind but generally I'd guess around 40 degrees optimally) Finally, as I've implied differences but not actually made them clear. Square sails gave massive ships, HUGE engines of the wind to drive them and were not very efficient sailing upwind. They were vessel specific and required more manpower to handle than fore and aft sails. These were the work-horses of commerce and trade for hundreds of years and wouldn't have continued to be built if not the best most efficient and technologically advanced vessels of the times. Sail died with the advent of steam but died slowly as early steam vessels required massive amounts of fuel and which storage of it cut into cargo capacity most severely. Fore and aft sails are more efficient by far on smaller vessels, for giving power, lift and drive but they work in exactly the same way as square sails but are more easily handled and with fewer lines and a lot less rigging to keep them aloft. Dear @Improve Sailing if you're curious I've made other comments to some posts here and if you like I'd be happy to correspond with you or even talk sometime.

This video was SO informative, very well explained and clearly presented. I really appreciate the time you took in putting this together. I didn't know anything about sailboats before watching this and I was able to follow along and understand everything. You're a very good teacher.

I really wanted to buy a brig and set sail to the sea with the boys. Just to escape from the rottening society.

@BeKindToBirds

3 жыл бұрын

Wait until you see what people have done to the ocean. The very wind currents have changed too.

@t2hk_

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeKindToBirds it seems you can never run away from the destruction made by humanity

@BeKindToBirds

3 жыл бұрын

@@t2hk_ Truly not. For humanity comes with you to wherever you go no? Build a ship to mars and take extreme care of the culture that goes with you and after generations I think you would find things almost the same as on earth.

@claymore609

2 жыл бұрын

My new escape plan.

@adityadwirohman9072

2 жыл бұрын

Boii.... Me too

This video cleared up so much confusion. Thanks for helping me get it.

Hello, thank you for the interesting video. A big part of defining a cutter rig is the the bow sprit that the headsails are attached to. Headsail always forward of the bow on a cutter.

Thank you for this video, really great format and graphics and I like you made a quiz. I am so sorry that a few bitter and mean people want only to spread their bitterness to you and I hope it does not stop you from doing what you are doing and improving.

Oh man such a distinctive Dutch accent. I'm guessing from somewhere in Zuid-Holland. Is it so? Interesting video by the way

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

Well spotted - originally I am, I currently live more up north. Happy you liked the video.

Great channel, hoping this will blow up !

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, me too. BTW I can't solve sudokus too ...

mizzen (n.) "aftermost fore-and-aft sail of a three-masted ship," early 15c., from Middle French misaine "foresail, foremast," altered (by influence of Italian mezzana "mizzen") from Old French migenne, from Catalan mitjana, from Latin medianus "of the middle"

Very informative, thank you kind sir!

This video is so speciffic....I love it

01:50 that's a spinnaker not gennaker, the latter would have been attached to the bowsprit

@fakenamefakename12345

4 жыл бұрын

Boby Dome I was thinking that too

@markpeverley6343

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes a spinnaker is called a genoa but I've never heard of a gennaker. That must be a landlubber corruption.

@pennsred4900

4 жыл бұрын

Boby Dome I have no idea what you just said

@jacobm7002

3 жыл бұрын

@@markpeverley6343 a gennaker is a asymmetric spinnaker, mostly used in skiffs and faster boats. A genoa is a foresail that is similar to a gennaker, but a gennaker will not go upwind and the genoa is a much less full sail.

Hi, thanks for the video. I'm still struggling with the identification of the final boat. Why is it a schooner if it has a mizzenmast? Thanks!

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

Your welcome - what makes this one a schooner is the slightly shorter foremast, and the fore-and-aft rigging on all masts. Hope that helps!

@thomasburd2008

4 жыл бұрын

Improve Sailing Thank you!

I did say it was a four master schooner. Yay!

Thanks for that. Incidentally, according to the Oxford English Dictionary "Mizzen" is late Middle English from Italian "Mezzana". Ironically, that means "middle" - so they applied it to the wrong mast!

@ImproveSailing

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. That's just great, thanks for this cool fact. Nice to know.

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

I do believe, and I'll have to dig out my old reference books on sailing antiquity, rigging etc. and my Darcy Lever's as well as Underhill's Masting and Rigging, but middle referred to middle height as in the mizzen was half as tall or even less than half as tall as the other masts.

@Stansmith7381

Жыл бұрын

Mezzana mast was the center mast of the three mast boat in medieval time. When the boats became two masts vessels, one mast was taken away. The french considered that the first mast was the one missing so the mat de misaine is the front mast. For the English sailors, they considered that the bAck mast was removed, hence the mizzen is the back mast now. Check wikipedia.

Great Vid! Thank you!

Merci beaucoup !!!

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

De rien Eric!

I really tried to find out the answer to the last challenge question in tne video but I could not. You mention that a Schooner has the tallest (main) mast at the aft where in the foto this is not the case. I would suggest: 4 Mast Bermouda rigged Ketch for the last foto. Anyway thank you for the video.

@00:58 The front sail is not a gennaker. It's a spinnaker. It is attached to and held out from the mast with a spinnaker-boom as you can see. The gennaker is an a-symmetrical sail, the spinnaker is symmetrical. A gennaker will normally be attached to the bow or a bowsprit. The word gennaker is a contraction of Genoa and spinnaker.

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! CORRECT! I get chaffed when I hear and see these little incorrect references and such!

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

I'd also add that a spinnaker is always set flying and only tacked to a spinnaker pole attached to the mast, whereas as Gennaker is always as you say Asymetrical and always tacked down to the base of the forestay or to a temporary or fixed sprit getting it out further forward of the jib or head sail.

at 17:31, this is a barque, because the aft mast is not square rigged. at 19:20 this is a Brig, not brigantine, because both masts are square rigged. and a schooner is called Schoener in Dutch, not Schooner :)

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the corrections - Edited the video description for others to see.

@walterjedi1478

4 жыл бұрын

In terms of sailing history, the ship at 19:20 is still a brigantine. Brigantines can have one square sail on the main mast and still be considered a brigantine. Modern brigantine are referred technically as hermaphrodite brigantines. Meaning that the carry a gaff topsail instead of a main square sail. You are correct but, I’d thought I may throw in my two cents. Nice catch on that barque. I had to look twice to see it.

@ryveralexander8511

2 жыл бұрын

Potatos potatoes

I love it. The Dutch guy looks at the name mizzenmast and thinks, "I have no idea why someone would call it that!.....sounds like us"

The categories around 7:30 need to be spread a bit more; catboats, sloops, and cutters all have one sailbearing masts. Catboats usually have the mast stepped well forward and have no foresail. Sloops have one foresail, and cutters have two or more. The mast can either have a triangular Bermuda sail or a gaff sail with or without a gaff topsail. So you can have Bermuda and gaff catboats, Bermuda and gaff sloops, and Bermuda and gaff cutters. You're also missing two entire categories of sail plans. The first, the spritsail. is similar to a gaff sail, except where a gaff rig has the head of the sail brailed to the gaff along its entire length, a spritsail is only fastened to the sprit at its peak; the sprit itself angles down across the sail to its mounting on the mast generally about midway along the luff of the sail from the tack to the throat, and there may or may not be a boom anchoring the foot of the sail. When there is no boom, a spritsail can be quickly hauled up to the mast and secured in heavy winds.. The second, the lug sail, is also similar to a gaff sail, and the head and foot of the sail are brailed to the yard and boom, respectively. However, where the luff of the sail would be brailed to the mast, and the ends of the gaff and boom would attach to the mast, a lugsail has both attached to the mast so that the luff of the sail extends forward of the mast, and is free-standing, the sail being attached only to the boom and yard. The gaff, sprit, and lug rigs all share the advantage of being able to carry more sail area for a given height of mast than a Bermuda rig, and on smaller boats can even eliminate shrouds and stays, using an unsupported mast.

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

Well noticed, I'd add that Sloops can carry more than one headsail as well, but the singular characteristic and a technical one is that in Cutters the mast is stepped a bit further aft than in a Sloop. This is dependent on the overall design spec and whether the mast is stepped forward of or behind station 4. The foretriangle in a cutter is larger and had to do with large mainsails and needing to counterbalance a weather helm and may or may not have a bowsprit. (I'm adding this as a clarification: In former times when these smaller working vessels were ALL gaff rigged and often the mainsail carried a boom that extended well aft past the transom, and this continued to be experimented with, it became necessary to balance against weather helm and required adding sails forward to counteract the center of effort moving too far aft. This was accomplished by adding bow sprits or moving the mast further aft, reducing the size of the main sail and giving space forward i.e. larger fore triangle to add head sails. So, if they left the mast stepped 3/4 of the way forward for example and added a bowsprit then technically it was still a sloop with more than one headsail. Moving the mast aft was not practical in an existing vessel as it would entail major rebuilding and downtime. So developments took place in design and building as a necessity and the single mast moved further aft. I'm leaving out a lot having to do with cargo spaces and arrangements on deck which were either impacted postively or negatively by any of these developments.) A sloop with a bow sprit and the mast stepped forward of station 4 will generally have only one head sail but can carry two. It is easier and functionally correct and proper just to so say a cutter carries two headsails and a sloop only one.

Very helpful video. A little slow, but it clears up a lot.

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and I agree William! One of my first videos.

Thanks for the video I have been wondering recently about Ketch Vs Schooner... It is clear in your diagrams with a single deck. However if your (not going to use the right words here because of the question) .... if your mast at the middle and the mast at the back are of the same height, however because of the configuration of the boat. The foremast is connected to the main deck but the stern mast goes through one or two decks before being exposed to the elements as such the two masts are the same height but the sail size is different, i.e. the fore mast has the larger sail, and because the boom of the stern mast has to start higher up the mast (due to aforementioned decks) and therefore has a smaller sail... is this a Ketch? or is it a schooner even though its aft sail is smaller?

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about through decks??? The Pallada, a 3 masted full rigged ship, is one of the Russian Sail Training Ships and has her masts stepped on deck for goodness' sake! A Ketch NO MATTER the number of decks which is ridiculous because ketches are smaller vessels and will have only one main or weather deck with but one or two exceptions, has a shorter mast aft, no matter whether stepped on deck or through deck below, which is a driving or steering sail and provides lift/thrust as well and in a KETCH it is ALWAYS stepped forward of the steering post. A YAWL has an even smaller sail aft on generally an even shorter mast. It is often stepped on an outboard structure built out over the water off the transom and is ALWAYS whether stepped as stated or on deck, AFT of the steering post or column, some say the rudder which is technically correct, but I won't get into that here. There's a lot of confusion going on in your statement. Don't think about whether a mast is through a deck or stepped on deck. When a vessel has two masts and the aftermost mast is lower in height, that is a Mizzen mast and the forward most mast is NOT a Fore mast but a Main mast as it carries the Main/Larger driving sails and is the Main mast because of height. When both masts are of the same height and fairly equidistant foreward and aft on the vessel it is ALWAYS a schooner if they are rigged with fore and aft sails. (I won't get into brigs, brigantines, or barquentines). We are talking about smaller two masted vessels. Some schooners have masts all the same height and up to 7 masts in all, see: Thomas W. Lawson (Google/Wikipedia) or Wyoming (6 masts). Some may have the aftermost mast slightly shorter, and in two masted schooners traditionally the fore mast or forward most mast was shorter than the main mast. I hope this helps. I prefer schooners for their sailing qualities, preferable to Ketches or Yawls which I always find cranky and you have to fiddle with them to balance them out as the massively larger quantity of sail forward can give you a delicate and cranky helm or steering due to the effort being so far forward of the rudder hence the necessity of the little sail aft. It is a design that isn't as common these days and all sorts of variations are appearing, technically ketch or yawl but with highly modified rigging and sail areas all to balance out the sailing qualities of the vessels. Ref. Steinlager 2 a modified ketch rig and very interesting at that as it set a mizzen staysail between the main and mizzen masts.

Good video I think I might need to do more research but what is the difference between parallel sails and perpendicular sails like the ones on pirate ships. If anyone has information or videos to watch please link them thanks

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

They handle differently, the pirate sails have horrible upwind performance (pretty much none). The parallel sails (fore-and-aft rigged) have much better upwind performance.

@NibblyBitz

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImproveSailing Oh wow thank you for the reply, that makes sense after watching other videos as you can get much more lift on parallel sails so I guess going into the wind using parallel sails would be better for peformance.

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

Adding this: See Irving Johnson's film on KZread: Around Cape Horn. He sailed on Peking in 1929 I believe, one of the last cargo-carrying square riggers. OK, I'm a square rig sailor, and generally we get VERY upset when people refer to square rigged vessels as "Pirate Ships!" Pirates used whatever vessels they could acquire, often by pirating them, but Pirates evolved out of sanctioned "Privateers" which were given what were called "Letters of Marque" or other official designations from a sovereign (King or Queen) and thus were sanctioned to "Pirate" shipping of nations that were at war with them or were even political opponents. Queen Elizabeth gave Sir Francis Drake "Letters of Marque" designating him a legal and sanctioned privateer BUT to the Spanish he was rightly an unlawful predator "El Draque" the Dragon and a Pirate. Many of the "legal" privateers (for that particular nation which sanctioned them) went rogue and began preying on vessels of their own nation and all were eventually designated as Pirates when they went rogue or due to political shifts were designated thus by their own nations. So called "Pirate" ships were just the square-rigged ships of the era not different from any standard naval vessel or fighting vessel of the times. They were Ship rigged, Barque rigged and very commonly Brig or Brigantine as they were faster and more agile and better able to harry cumbersome cargo vessels which were lightly armed if at all. Pirates didn't engage with naval vessels unless forced to. Square sails have an advantage as more square footage of canvas can be set per mast than between them in a fore and aft manner, giving more power, lift and drive than is possible with ONLY fore and aft sails on larger long haul cargo carriers of the day. The epitome being the Tea & Opium Clippers (Google/Wikipedia) or read some fine books by Basil Lubbock: The China Clippers, The Blackwall Frigates, The Romance of the Clipper Ships to name but a few. I digress, however. In the Clippers, which were specifically designed to be the epitome of square sail, the distance between the masts was greater which gave them the ability to adjust the angle of the sails to a far finer angle to the wind, called "bracing round" where the spars were pivoted along the vertical axis of the mast in order to catch the wind. It is often mistakenly thought that square sails ONLY fill from behind and PUSH the vessel forward but there are more dynamics of foil and pressure differentials involved with them than fore and aft sails. Square sails act the same way by taking the wind along both surfaces of the sail so that they billow into the desired foil shape. This occurs along the vertical edge of the sail to windward but also with square sails there is also a downward passage of air that contributes some smaller amount of lift. Sailing vessels are more often NOT pushed unless directly downwind but rely on creating the foil shape to the sail and like an airplane wing, create a low pressure on the long side of the foil which creates lift and the vessel is actually drawn forward. HENCE the terms the sail is drawing well or lifting. (The clippers could sail to windward as close as 30 + degrees and the bigger later cargo carriers of the late 19th and early 20th centuries almost as close to the wind but generally I'd guess around 40 degrees optimally) Finally, as I've implied differences but not actually made them clear. Square sails gave massive ships, HUGE engines of the wind to drive them and were not very efficient sailing upwind. They were vessel specific and required more manpower to handle than fore and aft sails. These were the work-horses of commerce and trade for hundreds of years and wouldn't have continued to be built if not the best most efficient and technologically advanced vessels of the times. Sail died with the advent of steam but died slowly as early steam vessels required massive amounts of fuel and which storage of it cut into cargo capacity most severely. Fore and aft sails are more efficient by far on smaller vessels, for giving power, lift and drive but they work in exactly the same way as square sails but are more easily handled and with fewer lines and a lot less rigging to keep them aloft.

Just to learn. In Dutch a mizzen mast is called a bezaan mast. In English double 'o' is pronounced as 'oe'. So a schooner in English is the same way pronounced as schoener in Dutch. The frase 'rigged' is pronounced as 'rigg'd'. A informative video, keep going, keep learning. By the way i am Dutch also.

@watervloggedscot2197

2 жыл бұрын

Origin of Mizzen is old English mesan, and even older origins from French misaine but goes back to old Latin

@Athoseye

2 жыл бұрын

And the word „frase“ is spelled „phrase.“ [I lived in Scheveningen as a child and am ashamed to say I never learned a single phrase in the language of my host country : everybody spoke (speaks) English …]

@henkormel5610

2 жыл бұрын

@@Athoseye In Dutch the 'ph' instead of ''f' is slowly disapearing. I don't even know if 'frase' is wrong by the current spelling rules. I don't think so. The spelling rules are simplyfied, so the logic is partly gone.

@unconventionalideas5683

Жыл бұрын

@@henkormel5610But in English “phrase” is very much the only accepted spelling. English has not yet gone through any spelling rationalization, unfortunately.

@henkormel5610

Жыл бұрын

@@unconventionalideas5683 Unfortunatly Dutch did, the logic is gone.

On the yawl, I couldn't clearly see the wheel. The mizzen looked pretty far afore to be yawl. Great videos, I like your accent, it lends validity to your nautical documentary.

I enjoyed watching this very informative presentation since I am building a RC sail boat for the first time, would be obliged if any one can send me designs of winch systems

Is there a Gaff-Ketch with a Third mast in the Yawl position?

Schooners can have up to 7 masts, they just need all be fore and aft rigged with possibly a square rigged topsail on the foremast.

What is the triangular sail above the four sided gaff?

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

It's called a topsail

Thank you

Thanks Scrooge ;)

The last one is a 4masted cutter riged staysail schoner with foresails and staysails roled upp.

What type of sail is on lagoon 50 Catamaran

Hvor finder man Schonerbrigg rigning til model skibe i høj detalje grad

so what type of ship would the black pearl be ????

@BeKindToBirds

3 жыл бұрын

A Galleon right? Square rigged fore and main mast with a lanteen mizzenmast.

Yep.. I got it.. four masted schooner...! Damn I never won anything before.... Hot diggiddy..!😮

Could you please axplain shortly, what a Clipper is?

I think that the ship picture from the start & end of the video is actually a 4 masted barque. If it were a schooner, the aft mast would be the same size or taller than the other masts. However, it is shorter. That's more indicative of a barque.

@paulbonge6617

Жыл бұрын

Actually, incorrect it is as he said a Bermuda or Marconi rigged 4 masted schooner. A Barque is ALWAYS square rigged on all masts except the after most mast. A Ship rig is Square on all masts, and when there are more than two masts. For the schooner I suggest you google Down East Schooners as well see Wikipedia entry for the Schooner Wyoming. She was a 6 masted schooner. There was ONE 7 masted schooner built the Thomas W. Lawson. Interesting bit of trivia, they were running out of names for the masts and the crew referred to them fore to aft as, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday etc. to Saturday the aftermost mast. The aftermost mast in schooners when more than two masts CAN be the same height OR slightly lower. My credentials: Master of Sail, former Crew member, 3rd. Officer & Chief Mate of 4 Masted Barque Sea Cloud. Bosun, 3rd. Mate, Chief Officer 3 Masted Barque Elissa. To cite but a few. I have sailed schooners of many types and owned my own Marconi rigged Staysail schooner. That is when the fore sail is set on a stay running from the main mast down to the base of the foremast on deck, making it a staysail. He does not touch on many types of "Tall Ship" for example: Brigantines, Barquentines, Jack Ass Barques. Just FYI: say you have 5 masts on a Barque or Ship the names fore to aft are always Fore Mast, Main, Mizzen, Spanker and Jigger. I'm using English/American terms but in any language, you'll find basically that arrangement.

@equesdeventusoccasus

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbonge6617 Thank you for the information. I was going off of a photo of a barque that I have hanging in my studio from the early 1900's. The two ships look nearly identical although the picture I have is not at full sail, so I was making a few guesses for the missing sails based upon the rigging visible. (I know the photo is of a barque because I looked up the history of the vessel when I first got the picture.)

Mizzen means medium or middle in Italian. Which it isnt the middle sail so it seemingly doesnt make sense. But it is medium in size usually compared to the main mast and the fore mast if you consider that they use to put a small mast on the bowspirit on the older ships.

That last one looks like a brumuda rigged ketch to me because it has a mizzenmast and the main masts are larger than the fore mast. If im looking at it right w/ the flag in the aft.

Mizzen likely came from the Arabic "misn", meaning mast, and was associated with the lateen sail, also of Arabic origin.

So a brigantine is small brig, something I never seem to find an answer too.

Lady Washington is a beautiful boat. 19:17

“Mizzen” comes from the Italian word “mezzano” meaning middle

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning it.

@nickh.4940

3 жыл бұрын

How ironic, since the mizzen mast is behind the main (actual middle) mast on a three-masted ship. Lol

@BeKindToBirds

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickh.4940 Perhaps it is because it is of the "middle" size? I found the reason: "By the close of the 16th century it had become the established rule that a ship proper had three masts fore, main and mizen. The third takes its name not as the other two do, from its place, but from the lateen sail originally hoisted on it, which was placed fore and aft in the middle (Italian, mizzo) of the ship, and did not lie across like the courses and topsails. "

You should've given credit to improvesailing.com where those graphics of the boats and rigs came from. Naughty naughty!

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

You're right, but I asked the website owner for permission and it's fine

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Since that's me ;)

"Schooner" as "Skooner" is English pronunciation, whereas "Schooner" as you first said it is Dutch. Beiden zijn correct.

@martijnheil8825

3 жыл бұрын

Toch heb ik nog nooit iemand schooner met die o horen uitspreken. In het Nederlands hebben we het over een 'schoener'.

If you look at the Esmeralda training ship is a four master shooner

Can a sloop be square rigged?

Maybe you forgot the lug-sail as a sailform, which is quite commen on small workboats, at least in Britain I guess...

I sailed on a three masted schooner named Tui Tai in Fiji 1984

In Arabic mizzen means beautiful smell air or light air

"The name is derived from several sources - Middle English mesan, from Old French misaine, Old Spanish mezana or Old Italian mezzana, all ultimately from Latin medianus meaning ‘of the middle’."

It's hard to listen to a non-traditional seaman talk about sailing ships and rigs but a dutchman besides, oooeeee, that's really hard.

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

Luckily, nobody's forcing you to! If you have anything to add, please feel free, I appreciate it.

@markpeverley6343

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImproveSailing I like the challenge, keep it up.

@argonwheatbelly637

4 жыл бұрын

Ik begrijp hem.

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

@@markpeverley6343 Thanks Mark, will do.

@ImproveSailing

4 жыл бұрын

@@argonwheatbelly637 Vliegende Hollander?

18:05 I'm pretty sure those are clippers. Which can also have up to seven masts. Names. Foremast Mainmast Mizzen mast Jigger mast Pusher mast Driver mast Spanker mast.

Who else got the schooner at the end

@sjoormen1

4 жыл бұрын

Yep.

should be a 4 pole ketch, but modern materials create flexibility. sails so far apart tempt me to call it a sloop chased by 3 catboats.

Really good american too

Civil Sail ships 1. Sloop 2. Cutter 3. Ketch 4. Brigantine 5. Schooner 6. Brig 7. Xebec 8. Flute 9. Carrack 10. Caravel 11. Whaler 12. Barque 13. Barquentine 15. Galleon Military Sail ships 1. Brig 2. Corvette 3. Snow 4. Frigate 5. Galleon 6. War Galleon 7. Man O' War 8. 2nd Rate 9. 1st Rate 10. Sloop of War Most Feared sail ships 1. Flying Dutchman (Galleon) 2. Queen Anne's Revenge (Firgate Concorde-Class) 3. USS Constitution (Frigate) 4. Silent Mary (1st Rate Sovereign-Class) 5. Black Pearl (Galleon)

new sailing rig on my channel ....ROTATING SPAR SKIFF ( a new kind of sailing rig )

I was told that it is "full-rigged" and not "fully rigged". I don't know if I am wrong though.

Around the 15 min mark. Rigged is pronounced the same as you pronounce fully rigged ship.... as Rigg'd not riggEd. ... also Staysail, Headsail and Jib. The outermost is the jib, then head, then staysail... but again, if I have wrong info, I'm happy to be corrected, that's why I like watching videos like yours. BTW, ty, I do like your vids. 👍

My grandma owns a Bermuda ketch rig

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

I love that rig, it looks fantastic and it is said to sail very well.

Mizzenmast was an adaptation of the Spanish word " mesana "

I pronounce schooner with a German sch which is the sh sound

Bermuda Rig AKA Marconi rig

The aft-most mast is only a Mizzen if it's smaller than the previous mast. Ie: in a 2 masted schooner it would be the Mainmast. In fact it's only called a Mizzen if it's on a Ketch or Yawl as the Mizzen is smaller (or half-mast) hence the name, that comes from the italian for middle (as in size?). On a schooner the aft-most mast is always the biggest and so the main, it becomes complicated when there are multiple masts, and in the past, with a seven masted schooner they ended up naming them by their numbers. as in mast No1, or mast No2.... even days of the week. 😂 monday sail, tue. sail etc 😂 (but maybe that's just sailors tales...) Anyway ketch, yawls have mizzen. schooners have multiple fore, mid, third, etc and the last is the MAIN. That's what i've always been told, don't take it as gospel, and I'm happy to be corrected if i'm wrong. 👍

@jacobnugent8159

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard of the days of the week sail names

The term 'Tall Ship' comes from the poem Sea Fever by John Masefield--it was not a seamans term. And the term ' Windjammer' was a disparaging term used by steamship sailers to describe sailing ships. It kind of irritates me that all large traditional sailing ships are now called Tall Ships or Windjammers. I think newspaper journalists were responsible for this.

Delivery speed up needed.

Ok, listening to this again. A Barque or Ship are always 3 or more masts and there is ONLY ONE main sail, the lowest square sail set on the Main mast. You refer to the sail on the mizzen mast as a main sail I assume but it is the mizzen. When you have a 4 mast Barque or Ship, the mizzen is a square sail as it is the lowest square sail on the 3rd square rigged mast and the fore and aft sails on both Barque and Ship of 4 masts are called the Spanker and Spanker topsail and Gaff rigged! You refer to a split topsail it is NOT, it is a split Spanker and the Spanker gaff topsail is above that. On a ship or barque here are the sails from bottom to top: Fore, Main or Mizzen then above those are set more often now days, a Lower Topsail, Topsail, then Top Gallant or T'Gallant, then Royal. Above the Royal would be a Sky Sail, and though quite rare above the Sky would be a Moonraker and once was set above that a sail called Nearer My God to Thee!

It's n ot a gennaker, it's a spinnaker!

a cat boat has its mast all the way forward

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Why do you call ships boats?

Let's get something straight. "Tall Ship," is a poetic allusion from the work of Masefield. It is not a category of a ship's rig.

I am ashamed that at 40 years of age im beginning to show interest 😂😂😂

I have an uncle named Ed...he made a rig design game he calls rig-Ed but I think the game is rigged...

@binaryglitch64

2 жыл бұрын

I probably don't fare any better in my strongest foreign language, in fact I probably do worse... so, I make light of his pronunciation, but only in good fun.

Lol

It's a sailboat

First thing is u need to kno the difference between a boat,and a ship...

I failed

And still you don't know the difference of spinnaker and gennaker

You talk to much, people will full asleep waiting for you

@ImproveSailing

3 жыл бұрын

Ok

@TheZombieboy100

3 жыл бұрын

It's funny, because you're the one who needs to shut up

@BeKindToBirds

3 жыл бұрын

And no one will wait for you at all mr uk south. Spending your days looking at younger women channels like a creep, and nights insulting people who are educating others, shame on you.

@southerneruk

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeKindToBirds You are well out of your depth, kid. Improve Sailing knows what my trade is, that's why he said OK. They know I am a 6 creaser, to educate to teach others, you got to know how much to talk and how much to show, it's a balance between the two

@southerneruk

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeKindToBirds also, why do you need to hide, new account