3DS Can Play Game Boy Advance Games Without Emulation

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  • @GVG
    @GVG4 ай бұрын

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  • @DryPaperHammerBro

    @DryPaperHammerBro

    4 ай бұрын

    I thought something was missing from the video. Thanks SponsorBlock!

  • @mattschehr163

    @mattschehr163

    4 ай бұрын

    sponsors dont help we just want to watch the video

  • @rickster008

    @rickster008

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree with the secret jon

  • @user-lm5jc8tp3z

    @user-lm5jc8tp3z

    2 ай бұрын

    "3DS library outstanding" - muahahahha xd this console doesn't have any action games, nor any strategy games, nor any RTS games nor horror games... it has only mario and some big-headed jRPG games... Even PS Vita has better library. At least it has Borderlands 2 or Uncharted or God of War 1 + 2, or Assassin's Creed

  • @sleepyslurpuff

    @sleepyslurpuff

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-lm5jc8tp3z You thought this comment deserved to be posted twice? 😂

  • @piratebear3126
    @piratebear31264 ай бұрын

    Fun fact: there’s some GBA games that have a built in sleep mode, and it triggers the 3DS’s sleep mode like normal. Just remember the button combo to bring it out of sleep mode.

  • @DarkBowser64

    @DarkBowser64

    4 ай бұрын

    You don't even need the button combo to bring it out of sleep! If the game has a built-in sleep mode, closing the system and then reopening the system will automatically bring it out of sleep mode. There's just no way to put it INTO sleep mode without the actual built in methods of the game.

  • @bootmii98

    @bootmii98

    4 ай бұрын

    Doesn't work with Goomba Color

  • @karmagiel

    @karmagiel

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@DarkBowser64 oh, i wondered why metroid fusion was active after putting it to sleep and opening the 3ds again. thats why.

  • @Michirin9801

    @Michirin9801

    4 ай бұрын

    And you can patch Sleep Mode into the games that don't have it! Also, don't use Goomba Color, use Gambatte, or GameYob in DS mode. Gambatte is better for most games, and it's probably perfect on a New 3DS, but for some reason, GameYob in DS mode has better performance with a few extra-demanding GBC games on an old 3DS (Cannon Fodder and Wacky Races for example)

  • @SuperFranzs

    @SuperFranzs

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah. I used this a lot in Mother 3! I had to play it on the 3DS, as the timings don't work in emulation.

  • @AbruptAvalanche
    @AbruptAvalanche4 ай бұрын

    It's funny how in that same generation, pretty much the exact same thing happened with the Wii U and Gamecube games. The system was capable, but Nintendo just never did anything with it.

  • @edwardsaldana2534

    @edwardsaldana2534

    4 ай бұрын

    If the Wii U was given 2 more years to bounce back, maybe GameCube could of arrived

  • @The_SOB_II

    @The_SOB_II

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@edwardsaldana2534I love your commitment to coping. The Wii U got done dirty but man there was nothing they could do after the first 2 years max

  • @HackerBilly13

    @HackerBilly13

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@edwardsaldana2534Honestly I think the thing that would've saved the Wii U was the 3ds Player they were working on for it. It got dropped and never released but I honestly believe if that was something that released nearly immediately with the system. It would've done so incredibly well

  • @juiceala

    @juiceala

    4 ай бұрын

    This is false, I was one of the Beta testers of Dios Mios and Nintendont, unlike the 3DS the Wii U CAN'T run GameCube games natively, Nintendo removed the MIOS from the Wii U and it was up to the hard work of the modding community to build, test, fix and adjust Nintendont to make it run well on the Wii U.

  • @legoboy7107

    @legoboy7107

    4 ай бұрын

    @@juiceala But that's mainly a software-side thing, isn't it? The software the Wii uses when it runs Gamecube games or something is what's missing? The actual native Gamecube hardware is still present in the system since it has Wii hardware (which is basically the same), right? It's just not nearly as usable on its own out-of-the-box as the GBA hardware in the 3DS clearly is because Nintendo removed software that allows you to...access it or something? Correct me if I'm wrong and you really know but that's roughly the idea I had of what's happening there.

  • @armadeus8711
    @armadeus87114 ай бұрын

    Nothing fills me with more excitement that getting to hear Jon talk about backwards compatibility for 10+ minutes The only thing that gets me more excited is hearing Jon talk about image quality for 10+ minutes

  • @Kritigri

    @Kritigri

    4 ай бұрын

    Tell me about image quality, Jon. Show me the pixels.

  • @Kiirabu197

    @Kiirabu197

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@Kritigri look at those pixel-perfect images.

  • @Matanumi

    @Matanumi

    4 ай бұрын

    exciting like Sora

  • @AlexCFaulkner
    @AlexCFaulkner4 ай бұрын

    I think this video was a subliminal message on how to play mother 3 in English.

  • @YustinJ420

    @YustinJ420

    4 ай бұрын

    And Mario vs Donkey Kong without buying the switch version

  • @thenightowls2804

    @thenightowls2804

    4 ай бұрын

    or you could just use an emulator on your laptop/phone lol

  • @Lordilucas12

    @Lordilucas12

    4 ай бұрын

    @@thenightowls2804 The rhythm elements work way better on native hardware because of the lack of input delay, I'd actually argue mother 3 is one of the few games where this native solution has huge gameplay benefits

  • @leeartlee915

    @leeartlee915

    4 ай бұрын

    That’s how I played it for the first time. And I’m glad I did. That thing is NEVER getting localized.

  • @PikadaveStudios

    @PikadaveStudios

    4 ай бұрын

    that's how i did it for the first time! (i found an app that turns .gba files into smt the 3ds could do)

  • @phillipclearman859
    @phillipclearman8594 ай бұрын

    Its a shame Nintendo didn't take more advantage of this, even if the GBA's all star library is a lot of remakes.

  • @KnightSoulsG

    @KnightSoulsG

    4 ай бұрын

    Miss opportunities that's Nintendo

  • @edwardsaldana2534

    @edwardsaldana2534

    4 ай бұрын

    Shame that they didn’t put gameboy games on DSi ware, that’s even more of a miss opportunity

  • @DetroitMetroRetro

    @DetroitMetroRetro

    4 ай бұрын

    I think its obvious why nintendo switched to a subscription format They cant make as much money off every single game compared to having multiple games for a subscription and in my opinion it works great! Like if they ported game and watch gallery and it was a one time purchase or survival kids how many people would even buy it

  • @gars129

    @gars129

    4 ай бұрын

    The DS was a 2D beast. Maybe a little worse than PS1, though being tile and often choosing to use 6 bit mode based does give it a more SNES on steroids vibe. Many developers did not fully take advantage of it (the Treasure games are an example of really taking on the challenge, and most things still hold up. But man, the reason I forgot about the much more primitive sound was that I often played it without headphones.

  • @yggdrasilsaltar

    @yggdrasilsaltar

    4 ай бұрын

    well they ended up with a better deal in the end with the switch so it worked itself out

  • @JagGentlemann
    @JagGentlemann4 ай бұрын

    "I'm not a liar" >Cuts to a sponsor not narrated by John

  • @kianworld_
    @kianworld_4 ай бұрын

    BTW you can enable the GBA startup screen on VC injects by holding Select when turning the system on to load Luma's settings and enabling "Show GBA boot screen in patched AGB_FIRM"

  • @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan
    @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan4 ай бұрын

    Tip for anyone playing games with pixel perfect mode, trying playing with the lights off at night. You hardly notice how much of it is not used when you already have a hard time seeing anything but the game

  • @gluttonousmaximus9048

    @gluttonousmaximus9048

    4 ай бұрын

    I have to squint to see it well though...

  • @ihaveagoddamnplanarthur

    @ihaveagoddamnplanarthur

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@gluttonousmaximus9048umm uhh let's say that it's a gameboy micro

  • @qnybucks

    @qnybucks

    Ай бұрын

    pandanoko in the wild...

  • @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan

    @Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan

    Ай бұрын

    @@qnybucks I love whenever someone brings that up because I then get to talk about how I actually got a Pandanoko in Yo-Kai Watch 2. It's name is Tuxenoko (it's one of the 4 default nicknames, but I like it)

  • @Joel97_
    @Joel97_4 ай бұрын

    Twilight menu next + NDS forwarder next? And yes, i also did this for years, my 3DS is a emulation beast, i love it

  • @wchorski

    @wchorski

    4 ай бұрын

    ever had emulation problems with gba games and Twilight menu? I switched to mGBA instead for now, but miss the convince of the all in one

  • @Joel97_

    @Joel97_

    4 ай бұрын

    @@wchorski I just used native GBA for the 3ds through the injectors, it was comfy enough for me, and I didn't need to do it that often to it would become annoying so. Never had issues with it. I did try GBA Runner on twilight menu, but eh, that would be better on a DSi in my opinion, since you would load more directly to twilight menu

  • @vampirestrike_
    @vampirestrike_4 ай бұрын

    Nintendo: You still can't play MOTHER 3 outside of Japan. Jon: *wink wink*

  • @UnreaLorenzo

    @UnreaLorenzo

    4 ай бұрын

    You can, Just have a Japanese Nintendo account. (Switch is REGION FREE remember?) Besides, just use the English fan translation and inject it as a GBA forwarder (like Jon did) I played it in my 3DS.

  • @kariminyt

    @kariminyt

    4 ай бұрын

    @@UnreaLorenzo haha u didnt got that the wink wink meant. there is English translated rom for mother 3 for years. but nintendo cant translate it them self to English without changing the game due to copyright issues is not the same in the west to what its in japan.

  • @SnakebitSTI

    @SnakebitSTI

    4 ай бұрын

    _Looks at Mother 3 cartridge_ _Looks at GBA_ What do you mean I can't play it? It works perfectly fine! :P

  • @Cerbleur07

    @Cerbleur07

    3 ай бұрын

    Nintendo (watching the Mother 3 fandub website) : We are not going to localize mother 3 over Japan, we don't even know what that is.... *wink wink*

  • @FullaEels
    @FullaEels4 ай бұрын

    been injecting gba roms on my 3ds for a couple years now, it's fun! i can play pokemon gen 1-7 all on the same system, which i think is neat, and the only 'not legit' section is gen 3. they really should've put them on vc

  • @tylerlaunius7396

    @tylerlaunius7396

    4 ай бұрын

    Here's hoping an NSO announcement for the GB/C and GBA games happens at the upcoming Pokémon Presents. It would be pretty neat to have them.

  • @JeskidoYT

    @JeskidoYT

    4 ай бұрын

    like jon said, hope you moved to the openagba firm please

  • @ndnixlon9548

    @ndnixlon9548

    4 ай бұрын

    AGB_FIRM doesn't support FLASH1M (the save type every Gen 3 Pokémon game used) so I'm not surprised why it wasn't on the Ambassador Program.

  • @johnsducks9816

    @johnsducks9816

    4 ай бұрын

    I love old Pokémon games but since getting used to playing them on emulators with fast forward it is impossible to go back they are just so much better with ff

  • @ndnixlon9548

    @ndnixlon9548

    4 ай бұрын

    @@johnsducks9816 4th Gen Pokémon is the only one in the mainline series capable of fast-forward without the use of emulators (via cheats tho)

  • @catmachete2900
    @catmachete29004 ай бұрын

    Another great feature of open agb firm is that managing save files is way easier. They’re just put in a folder on your sd card while injects take several steps to backup saves

  • @kariminyt

    @kariminyt

    4 ай бұрын

    ah thx i wanted to know this. i always wanted to an easier way to extract the save files from VC. this is the way to go.

  • @leonro

    @leonro

    4 ай бұрын

    But injects are visible from the normal home screen. I much prefer to have all of my games in one place, even if I can't do it for DS. For games like Pokemon where you might want to transfer the creatures, it might be a better way, but usually I just want to play the game. I only ever injected Zero Mission, and I'd say that it played very well. Usually I just emulate games on my phone or PC though, it's more convenient.

  • @kitterbug

    @kitterbug

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@leonroI prefer to use virtual console for presentation, but if I'm lazy I use AGB firm

  • @Wryyyong

    @Wryyyong

    4 ай бұрын

    @ Surely utility factor should take precedent over aesthetics factor, no? Sure, seeing all those icons on your HOME Menu looks nice n all, but each individual game requires one to inject the ROM dump they desire into an importable archive based off the ones used for the 'Nintendo 3DS Ambassador' program. And if aesthetics are your goal, then that'd also mean making a fitting icon and banner for each game as well, and getting its title and developer/publisher info correct as well. And only _then_ would you be able to install the archive on your system. And if you make a mistake anywhere in your customization for the archive, you gotta go through the hoops of backing up any save data you've made with that game, re-create the archive with the mistakes fixed, install the new archive, run it to generate a placeholder save binary, reboot the system and restore your save backup. Furthermore, each game you install counts towards your "300 title icons" limit. Even once everything's said and done, actually getting into that game whenever you want to play it takes longer overall: 1. Hit the POWER button 2. Wait for the system to boot up and load the HOME Menu 3. Locate the game you want to play and launch it 4. Wait for the game to launch 5. Play your game Meanwhile, if you were to use open_agb_firm: 1. Hit the POWER button, while holding START and selecting open_agb_firm from the payload selector (or any button you've assigned to run open_agb_firm's payload on boot) 2. Select your ROM dump from the menu after the payload has run 3. Play your game if you just want to "play the game" like you say, then would you not prefer the option that requires the least setup and waiting time?

  • @benfll

    @benfll

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@leonro you can get ds games on the home menu too

  • @NovaDelta
    @NovaDelta4 ай бұрын

    One neat thing I found out while playing GBA games on a DSi using GBArunner2 is that using it you can actually extend the rendering of the game itself to fully fit the DS's screen to give you an additional 16 horizontal and 32 vertical pixels. Pokemon Ruby was the only game I tested with this and the game actually does render parts of the screen that aren't shown. The world think renders 16x16 tiles at a time, and with the frame extended not only can you see the unused vertical tiles, but also how the screen shifts horizontally and its pretty cool. You can also see some random data, as well as parts of the Hoenn town map that aren't usually fully shown

  • @Konic_and_Snuckles
    @Konic_and_Snuckles3 ай бұрын

    The reason for the dark filter is because the original GBA didn't have a backlight and so most of its game library used very bright assets to stand out better under ambient lighting conditions. Many of these games look fine when played on a backlit display, but some look comically bright like FF6 Advanced.

  • @fapuloes
    @fapuloes4 ай бұрын

    Well, in the case of the GBA the dark filter does actually make sense (at least in theory) since a lot of the original GBA games had set much higher contrasts to counter the non-backlit screen of the original model. Which means playing any of those GBA games on a backlit screen (including the GBA SP even) without color correction does get you an image that is simply too bright and thus not truly representing how that game is actually supposed to look like as intended by the designers. My favorite example being Mario Advance 2 looking completely bleached out compared to Super Mario World.

  • @Tempora158

    @Tempora158

    3 ай бұрын

    Unfortunate that the original GBA, released just two decades ago, is already a victim of the Mandela Effect, because people have clearly forgotten how dim the original GBA's reflective screen is, or that there even was the original GBA, because a lot of people seriously think the GBA SP is the original GBA.

  • @nadca2

    @nadca2

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Tempora158 The SP and Game Boy Player are why FFTA had three different display options

  • @ruegore
    @ruegore4 ай бұрын

    I've been following profi200's OAF project since early 2022. I love how it feels like you've turned your 3DS into a GBA with a flash cart in it! Such a fantastic project and I'd love to see profi200 finally implement that GUI they've been working on for so long.

  • @SaviTheGamer
    @SaviTheGamer4 ай бұрын

    These games were some of the few that I had when I was younger my 3DS and it lead me to becoming a fan of a love of these series! I'm quite glad these are getting the spotlight they deserver, and there's something new to discover about them every day!

  • @jaq515
    @jaq5154 ай бұрын

    Being an ambassador also got you early access to the new 3ds ambassador before it launched. Which was nice

  • @kitterbug
    @kitterbug4 ай бұрын

    Fun Fact: The Game Boy Advance shares the PSG soundchip (PSGs are what we typically call beep boop soundchips!) initially used on the original Game Boy, referred to as the DMGAPU (Dot Matrix Game Audio Processing Unit, 2x Pulse, 1x Wave, 1x noise), along with the GBA's 2 PCM sample channels. This chip is stored in the CPU and since It is used heavily within Game Boy Advance games remains on versions of the hardware without backwards compatibility for the original Game Boy. This means that the entire Nintendo DS family including the 3DS has a leftover from it's grandpa, the Game Boy! The DMG APU cannot be accessed by 3DS or DS software, and any PSG that you hear in DS or 3DS games is their own PSGs (6x Wave/Pulse, 2x noise, it functions out of 8 of the 16 PCM channels on DS, 32 PCM channels on 3DS via CSND), but regardless I think that is extremely cool!

  • @bgill7475
    @bgill74753 ай бұрын

    The vita does this for psp games too, there’s special dedicated hardware inside the vita just for playing psp games without emulation. I love it when companies do this. If you jailbreak it and use adrenaline this will also access that hardware and play the games through that, so you’ll play psp games natively on a vita.

  • @Kurlija
    @Kurlija4 ай бұрын

    Coincidentally, I just injected the last GBA game I wanted to try (Drill Dozer) last night, adding up to a grand total of 57 GBA titles on my 3DS. It really is a great feature for those of us who haven't grown up with a GBA. The fact it works with fan translations and ROM hacks is a huge plus, too.

  • @kitterbug
    @kitterbug4 ай бұрын

    I was just reading up on the ARM7 in the 3DS! Crazy how both the Wii U and 3DS had double backwards compatibility that was barely used....

  • @redchan_ebooks
    @redchan_ebooks4 ай бұрын

    it's how i've been playing MOTHER 3. It's perfect Edit: You can actually enable the GBA bootup screen in the Luma3DS menu when holding select on boot

  • @steve43ful

    @steve43ful

    4 ай бұрын

    ⬆️ what they said, feels way cooler with the logo

  • @jacobpro_
    @jacobpro_4 ай бұрын

    I have a modded New 3DS XL and DSi XL; both such great systems. I bought the DSi for DS games.. even though the 3DS can play them, the resolution difference was too muddy for my liking. DS games look the absolute best on native hardware. Especially on the IPS large displays of the XL. Chefs kiss.

  • @DarkNia64

    @DarkNia64

    4 ай бұрын

    You might already know this, but DS and VC games can be played in their original resolution on 3DS by holding Start while launching. Only downside is the smaller window size.

  • @hahahaani

    @hahahaani

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm really tempted to splurge on a XL for some crisp ds gameplay, but I'm also considering using that money instead to pimp out my lite with an ezflash and new R4. Real first world problems lol

  • @user-xg9gm7xk7i

    @user-xg9gm7xk7i

    4 ай бұрын

    @@hahahaanii have dsi xl to and i like play on it gba games. I tried gbarunner3 dev build and it worke very smooth! it have no inputlag like plaing native gba.

  • @KyLesCaster

    @KyLesCaster

    3 ай бұрын

    You can achieve pixel perfect with 3DS, its no different. Wouldn't you rather have the entire 3DS library ON TOP of the DS? I dont suggest anyone buy a DS / DSi over a 3DS, if the screen quality is the only arguement.

  • @EuroMIX2

    @EuroMIX2

    3 ай бұрын

    I wish I'd been able to get a New 3DS XL before they became too rare and expensive. I do love my standard XL, but there's times I wish I had the features of the New XL.

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress4 ай бұрын

    GBA sound has noise because the digital sample channels only have 8 bits of resolution, so the dynamic range is small enough that you can hear the digital noise floor. For comparison, CDs have 16 bits (which results in 256 times the dynamic range, not just double), and 24 and 32 bit formats also exist.

  • @ndnixlon9548

    @ndnixlon9548

    4 ай бұрын

    IIRC someone was able to reduce the hissing noise in the MusicPlayer2000 (or Sappy / MP2k, the default Nintendo sound driver used in most GBA games) called ipatix' High Quality Sound Mixer.

  • @111112oo

    @111112oo

    4 ай бұрын

    8 bit audio resolution has 256 possible positions per channel while 16 bit resolution has 65,536 possible positions per channel, for those that don't know.

  • @cube2fox

    @cube2fox

    3 ай бұрын

    How many bits did the SNES have?

  • @pokepress

    @pokepress

    3 ай бұрын

    @@cube2fox It was capable of using 16-bit samples, though lower depths were often used. I think the hard limit on the GBA is part of what gives it the noticeable hiss.

  • @droycon
    @droycon4 ай бұрын

    That’s how I played mother 3 it works amazing

  • @vertujoe2886
    @vertujoe28864 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this informative video, I always heard 3ds had a native GBA mode but never found it's based on custom start options instead of luma3ds. Greatly appreciated 👍👍

  • @martinmcneal2778
    @martinmcneal27784 ай бұрын

    Let me just say this. You have a pretty impressive voice and could be a great news anchor or a radio announcer for a product or as a radio host.

  • @The_SOB_II

    @The_SOB_II

    4 ай бұрын

    He could be the next Dookie Nookie

  • @JeskidoYT

    @JeskidoYT

    4 ай бұрын

    i believe jon did work for radio before he got into gaming

  • @Qwerty10254

    @Qwerty10254

    4 ай бұрын

    He knows that already

  • @superxnatrl1941

    @superxnatrl1941

    4 ай бұрын

    his voice is horrible

  • @The_SOB_II

    @The_SOB_II

    4 ай бұрын

    @@superxnatrl1941 What makes you say that? Sometimes it feels like he's rumbling my heart and it's going to rupture TBH, but not since they started this channel really

  • @olevet75
    @olevet752 ай бұрын

    quality of those comparising shots is amazing

  • @NeoVejiita
    @NeoVejiita4 ай бұрын

    This is super cool. If I ever go to play a GBA game portably again I will likely use this method...that being said, I've mostly just used PC emulation lately due to how accurate the emulators can be on a high end PC.

  • @thebearup
    @thebearup3 ай бұрын

    IIRC the dark filter was for 2 reasons. 1. Nintendo was trying to prevent epilepsy related to flashing lights. 2. Some early GBA games used bright color palettes to compensate for lack of backlighting. So on later consoles they added a darken filter to compensate for the compensation. FWIW GBA Runner is another option for GBA on 3DS but results may vary.

  • @Preskryption
    @Preskryption4 ай бұрын

    Long live the 3DS!

  • @kariminyt

    @kariminyt

    4 ай бұрын

    i found this funny, any way only 1 month left for the online to be shutdown =/

  • @As4vo

    @As4vo

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@kariminyti hope guys do some hacking to have it running on pretendo or anything like that for at last first party games.

  • @kariminyt

    @kariminyt

    3 ай бұрын

    @@As4voits not great on 3ds like its on wii u sadly. only mario kart 7 is supported which is great on 3ds. but i wish it had more

  • @As4vo

    @As4vo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kariminyt i didn't know that :( I hope they improve it adding more 3DS games.

  • @ericbelnades1257

    @ericbelnades1257

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh boy that aged poorly... but also like a fine wine at the same time! Incredible

  • @crazyconan28
    @crazyconan284 ай бұрын

    The end made me smile, go Leaf Green. Thank you for the relaxing video to listen to after work as I'm doing house chores.

  • @HatsuneMiku20238

    @HatsuneMiku20238

    3 ай бұрын

    not me, i like fire red

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade4 ай бұрын

    I knew about it! and ITS WONDERFUL. I modded mine when Nintendo pulled support. I have GB, GBC, Super Nintendo, GBA, DS, DSi Ware and 3DS games directly accessible from the home screen, and then I tons of other systems through emulators, such as Mega Drive, Master System, Neo Geo, Capcom CPS 1-3... the 3DS is an amazing portable system. :)

  • @gamecubeslayer
    @gamecubeslayer4 ай бұрын

    I got a 2ds xl this year and it’s becoming one of my favorite consoles ever Having one system to play Pokémon generations 1-7 is just so cool to have

  • @JediMB
    @JediMB4 ай бұрын

    I wasn't aware of open_agb_firm, so thanks for that! I haven't had that much time for my 3DS since I modded it a year and a half ago, but I did just rip some of my old GBA games and this could make playing them a much smoother experience.

  • @ThisIsCSDX
    @ThisIsCSDX4 ай бұрын

    This is actually super helpful. Now if only I knew how to remove 3DSBank data properly as I made a sort of 2nd profile just for GBA VC.

  • @RBtheMad
    @RBtheMad4 ай бұрын

    been doing this for years. my modded 3DS was such a clutch handheld for a broke high school student. being able to play NES, SNES, Genesis, Gameboy, GBA, DS, and 3DS all on one system was incredible for a long time.

  • @OutsideSpace-ur2st
    @OutsideSpace-ur2st4 ай бұрын

    I love the native compatibility, there were also some eshop virtual console titles that instead of using the link cable for multiplayer it would use download play.

  • @KnownAsKenji
    @KnownAsKenji3 ай бұрын

    Really goes to show the length of DS's life, that people forgot this was always built-in.

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo4 ай бұрын

    I knew about the Injector tool but never used it thus also never knew about the 3DS actually having native GBA backwards compatibility. Thanks a lot!

  • @vvizard4994
    @vvizard49944 ай бұрын

    Great video as always Jon, I've been doing the same on my 3DS, GBA games look very sharp and feel amazing to control when playing natively like this. The only downside to playing natively instead of emulating with mGBA on 3DS is the lack of motion controls, WarioWare Twisted and Yoshi Topsy Turv don't really work when playing natively, you need to emulate them to use the 3DS Gyro for motion

  • @AlexanTheMan
    @AlexanTheMan4 ай бұрын

    The 3DS always seems to show itself as a Jack of all trades as time goes on

  • @ben8446
    @ben84464 ай бұрын

    Love love love it And that is a killa lookin new 3ds you got there Jon :)

  • @Calham64
    @Calham644 ай бұрын

    9:56 Oh, boy... I remember this so vividly. Back then I honestly found it quicker to exit to the Home Menu then power it down as it was quicker. The same goes for when in DS Mode. It may have meant waiting for the Home Menu to boot, but it was actually faster than just powering it off straight away, which doesn't really make any sense, lol.

  • @Thollis1987
    @Thollis19874 ай бұрын

    Jon voice is so satisfying to hear talking about video games.😊

  • @RPGreg2600
    @RPGreg26003 ай бұрын

    Glad i watched this. I hadn't heard of Open GBA Firm. Maybe 10 minutes later, I've got it working on my 3ds! Far better than emulation, or spending the time to create VC injections!

  • @benlee9133
    @benlee91334 ай бұрын

    I knew about injects, however I did not know about agb firm. Thank you for that, it's exactly what I was looking for. Also Leaf Green has Ninetales so agreed.

  • @DeoxysChao
    @DeoxysChao4 ай бұрын

    LeafGreen stan here! I still kept my original cartridge to this day. Loved it! 😊

  • @Calham64
    @Calham644 ай бұрын

    Went ahead and tested the open gba firm myself today. To help out with Jon's issue of it not coming out as well in capture, you can modify the config file values on the SD Card. For scaler, changing the value to "0" does zero scaling on the screen, so gets sharper picture clarity. By default it's on "2" being hardware scaling. Smaller screen, but it's on the same sharpness as a Game Boy Micro. Also, you can change the default brightness as well, as the github page states that you can up the values for both Old 3DS and New 3DS models. The default scaling is okay, but I like my pixels to be crisp clean personally.

  • @guguig9746
    @guguig97464 ай бұрын

    I didn't know anything about this, this is great!

  • @cheesewombatTV
    @cheesewombatTV4 ай бұрын

    John continues to make videos exclusively about my random hyperfixations at 3 am. God bless you fellow crazy man ❤

  • @Yoshiinite
    @Yoshiinite4 ай бұрын

    I recently learned i can play Mother 3 on my 3DS, so i'm very excited to try doing that, last time i played Mother 3 i did it on my old phone, so i couldn't hit the little music notes in the battles for a lot of the game.

  • @theheadlesssoldier
    @theheadlesssoldier4 ай бұрын

    Somehow, I was just looking into the problem with injections this morning taking forever to put on a 3DS, and I actually installed open_agb_firm by accident without realizing what it can do. Coincidence that this video popped up on my feed? Nah, you’re doing great lad. Thanks for the tip

  • @FalKoopa
    @FalKoopa4 ай бұрын

    I play most of my GBA games on the 3DS via emulation because for the most part it works well enough. It's only for games that don't run well (like Warioware Twisted) that I use injects. The 3DS really is an amazing system in the sense it can play literally every handheld game Nintendo ever released, along with NES, SNES and (barely) N64 games.

  • @Unithrex

    @Unithrex

    4 ай бұрын

    How did you get Twisted working? Is there a way to use the 3ds gyro?

  • @championCynthia2348
    @championCynthia23483 ай бұрын

    Honestly my homebrewed 2ds XL is my go to nintendo emulator when I'm on the go, NES, SNES, GB(C), GBA, Genesis, Game Gear, 3ds and nds, it's able to do so so much natively. And then there's retroarch as well, which is amazing

  • @kokocola456
    @kokocola4564 ай бұрын

    Great video and another reason why people should mod their 3Ds if they haven’t. I have an old 2DS that I use to play all the GBA games I missed. And the old 2ds to me. Just feels like big gba

  • @redtutel
    @redtutel4 ай бұрын

    11:52 that deserves its own video. Maybe when we get main series Pokémon on NSO

  • @TetsuoKunio

    @TetsuoKunio

    4 ай бұрын

    Scrolling comments to find this. Is it just preference, or does he know something we don’t. I have to know.

  • @WohaoG
    @WohaoG4 ай бұрын

    you actually CAN enable the GBA boot up screen for VC injects with a toggle in the Luma3DS menu(hold select when booting up the system)

  • @putridscene
    @putridscene4 ай бұрын

    In reference to Jon's question, I have been doing this for years and ALSO did not know it was running them natively.

  • @Matanumi
    @Matanumi4 ай бұрын

    10:52 -sleep mode.... thats why Man all this reminds me how amazing 3DS hardware is. And i REALLY HOPE next switch keeps tegra X1 chip within

  • @lakitudude7577
    @lakitudude75774 ай бұрын

    The biggest example i've noticed of sound issues is that the confirm sound in the gen 3 Pokémon games sounds off

  • @vidego
    @vidego4 ай бұрын

    The same thing happened with the Wii U, where because it's backwards compatible with Wii games, it can also natively play GameCube games. Nintendo never put any on the eShop so you need a modded console, however.

  • @mactep1
    @mactep14 ай бұрын

    I still think this is way better on DS, the screens might be 4:3 but its always in pixel perfect with minimal black bars, unlike the 3ds pixel perfect mode.

  • @DisturbedbyDeth
    @DisturbedbyDeth4 ай бұрын

    I have had a modded 3DS for years and had no idea this was a feature. Tbh I had just been using a GBA emulator within the 3DS which works really well anyway, but it is nice to know I can also play the games natively.

  • @b2j135
    @b2j1354 ай бұрын

    No I did not know about the GBA bootloader that's actually pretty amazing and will be doing that when I get home I didn't know about the GBA injectors but I just never got around to it cuz I didn't know you could change some settings that's actually pretty cool I'll be doing that as well I'm basically going to do both of these

  • @Raphtor13
    @Raphtor134 ай бұрын

    Yeah I've been using that for a while. I love that I can put Pokemon ROM Hack games on there as well.

  • @satanizlas
    @satanizlas4 ай бұрын

    this is a great feature! i wish i knew about it before playing a laggy Mother 3 on mGBA but mGBA still has its uses: it allows you to play Warioware Twisted (the best Warioware) using the console's gyroscope! (and Yoshi's Topsy-Turvy too)

  • @satanizlas

    @satanizlas

    3 ай бұрын

    update: open_agb is awesome! it puts the save files in a folder, so i can put my saves for games i played on mGBA in it, to play them natively now! no more laggy Mother 3! all of my progress in Rhythm Tengoku!

  • @_kevosan
    @_kevosan4 ай бұрын

    I love the look of this thumbnail so much lol

  • @-_soy_-888
    @-_soy_-8884 ай бұрын

    I’ve been doing this for years :] Been an ambassador do I knew off the rip what it was capable of and modding just opened it up that much more

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame4 ай бұрын

    For the time comparison, I do think it's worth noting that the 3DS seems to take longer to get to the Home Menu when you have a theme applied.

  • @ZipplyZane

    @ZipplyZane

    4 ай бұрын

    Also if you have it hacked and use a decent sized SD card.

  • @Bl3u
    @Bl3u4 ай бұрын

    Recently modded my 3DS so I could backup my ds and 3DS library. For gameboy / gba I prefer playing via the analogue pocket via the dock to the retrotink 4K. I made a custom profile to emulate the SP lcd look, the end result just looks so fantastic.

  • @webbedshadow2601
    @webbedshadow26014 ай бұрын

    I have a modded 3DS and didn't know there was a way to launch GBA games straight from boot and avoid having to install injects that is CRAZY to me, so thanks to the homebrew community for making that possible! I can't believe how perfect the 3DS is for playing GBA games! well as long as having nothing showing on the bottom screen doesn't annoy you haha

  • @Ecusu
    @Ecusu4 ай бұрын

    It's worth pointing out that, if you're using a 3DS XL, old or new, then DS games on Pixel Perfect mode will be the exact same size as if played on an actual DSi. The smaller window size is an illusion due to the empty black space around it. GBA games are sadly genuinely a bit smaller in Pixel Perfect, but still better than, let's say, a Micro.

  • @Master0fHyrule
    @Master0fHyrule4 ай бұрын

    We have the same GBA handheld. :)

  • @jagstax7746
    @jagstax77464 ай бұрын

    If you inject with a GBA Bios you will see the boot up logo with Injection. Ultimate VC Injector is what you should be using to make GBA Or anything really. Even MD,GG can be added. With many options.

  • @Funem
    @Funem4 ай бұрын

    I have the Ambassador games as I got the 3DS on day one, they transferred over to the New 3DS when I upgraded and selected to transfer the contents from the old to the New 3DS. The selection of games is pretty good, they could have just given a bunch of average games, but credit to them, they didn’t.

  • @LopezXiann14
    @LopezXiann144 ай бұрын

    I’m shocked some people haven’t heard about this yet! I did this years ago with my 3DS and was the I played Mother 3! It works great!

  • @jonothanthrace1530
    @jonothanthrace15304 ай бұрын

    I'm guessing that the dark filter was a safeguard against photosensitivity triggers, like how modern games will darken the screen if there's going to be a particularly bright light effect.

  • @trickz8183
    @trickz818326 күн бұрын

    Sick, time to install Minish Cap!

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress4 ай бұрын

    Regarding the darkening, I could see a case for a gamma adjustment option since most GBA games were calibrated for a non-backlit screen.

  • @Xyrothim
    @Xyrothim2 ай бұрын

    WTF?? i didn't know that picture perfect mode exists!!! omg this is amazing

  • @umokwhy2830
    @umokwhy28302 ай бұрын

    Man I just appreciate golden sun being one of the three on the thumbnail

  • @ThunderDragonRandy
    @ThunderDragonRandyАй бұрын

    10:53 For RetroAchievements in RetroArch. But if RetroAchievements never existed, I probably would have went the native route.

  • @jimbotron70
    @jimbotron704 ай бұрын

    Interesting info, didn't know that.

  • @benzo277
    @benzo2774 ай бұрын

    Maybe they added the dark filter so that when the sp came out they could add changing the brightness as a feature.

  • @StriderVM
    @StriderVM4 ай бұрын

    There is also Twilight menu, but yes, AGB-FIRM is much much faster due to how it's loaded. Also as a minor caveat. Although it runs natively on hardware, the compability is actually not 100%. But I would congratulate you if you found a GBA game that runs with issues.

  • @ThunderPhant
    @ThunderPhant4 ай бұрын

    I was a "3DS Ambassador" and I was probably 11 years old, but I played the HELL out of Fire Emblem Sacred Stones & Metroid Fusion. Literally 100+ Hours in FE and got me into the series so when Awakening came out I was ready

  • @DieserEineee
    @DieserEineee4 ай бұрын

    I was 11 when I got the ambassador certificate and was very hyped about it xD I also was hyped to get 20 free games! The thing is I tought I would get 20 free 3DS games and I was pretty disappointed when I they were "just" retro games. But on the other hand I played them and enjoyed them very much! Even tho I grew up with a SNES and original Gameboy, this was my second introduction to older games. My favorite one was Minish Cap (no cap)!

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox21 күн бұрын

    Very neat

  • @LPcrazy_88
    @LPcrazy_883 ай бұрын

    I have been playing a lot of pokemon ROM hacks for the past year with the injection software. It is cool af to be able to play something like Emerald Kaizo on the 3DS. Only slight issue is I haven't found a way to decrypt the save file for these Virtual Console games to use something like PKhex or whatnot. Still super cool.

  • @zhanewithah7462
    @zhanewithah74624 ай бұрын

    bro tysm for teaching me about pixel perfect mode

  • @StrangeDad
    @StrangeDad4 ай бұрын

    Someday, when I'm older and have lots of free time, I'll do all these mods and tricks Jon jag talked about.

  • @btarg1
    @btarg14 ай бұрын

    Somehow i never tried this with any of my modded consoles! This looks like a great way to play Mario and Luigi!

  • @jonah2437
    @jonah24373 ай бұрын

    I remember checking an option in Luma3DS that forces GBA Virtual Console games to show the boot screen back when I first got into 3ds hacking. I've not used agb firm to load roms but it looks way more convenient lol, those reboots and 30 second power offs are hell.

  • @bradye21playsIndieHorror
    @bradye21playsIndieHorror4 ай бұрын

    Wow. I do remember the ambassador program now. I feel special! 😅

  • @apollolux
    @apollolux4 ай бұрын

    As someone who grew up with the OG Pokemon Red (my brother had Blue), I totally agree with your take at the end. XD

  • @scpredmage
    @scpredmage3 ай бұрын

    I'm a huge fucking nerd that went down this rabbit hole a while back after I jailbroke my New 3DS XL and wanted to figure out what all it could run. To expand on the explanation in the video with too many technical details, the Nintendo DS included both a 67MHz ARM9 core and a 33MHz ARM7 core. The GameBoy Advance used a 16.78MHz ARM7 core (it also had a 4MHz Z80 for backwards compatibility with GameBoy and GameBoy Color games, but that's all it was used for). When playing GBA games on a DS, it just used that core to run things. That said, DS games also used the ARM7 core, for things like audio, WiFi, and the touchscreen. Because of that, in order to maintain backwards compatibility with DS games, the 3DS had to include that same ARM7 core, in addition to the DS's ARM9 core and the dual-core 268MHz ARM11 it introduced. But the problem is that in order to run those backwards compatible games, the system basically has to switch to "DS mode", which more or less disables the ARM11 core and runs exactly how that system ran, including support for GBA games. With GBA games, not even the original DS had a sleep mode that worked with GBA games, so the same is true for the 3DS. Some games had their own sleep mode activated by a button combo, and I believe would automatically wake when you reopened the DS. The "Ultimate GBA VC Injector for 3DS" (the one used in the video) includes an option to try to patch a sleep mode into games (on screen at 5:44), but as it warns, it doesn't work for all games.

  • @1legend517
    @1legend5173 ай бұрын

    Not just the 3DS, but also the original Nintendo DS and DSi can play Gameboy Advance games from a regular DS cartridge now. I've been waiting a long time for something like Twilight Loader. Always knew this was possible and wondered why nobody was making it happen despite so many people saying it wasn't even possible for such a long time.

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