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@Mr.FreakyDaGod

4 ай бұрын

edge

@frankieiv3637

4 ай бұрын

I don’t want to see The Created in a Halo game ever again.

@nobodykayaks1041

4 ай бұрын

far too little far too late, it seems like when they are closest to failure they somehow are able to meet bare minimum expectations

@jrwilliams4029

4 ай бұрын

You should have finished the novel before releasing this video because the final passage provides a shocking revelation.

@meshikiarirus7613

4 ай бұрын

Bro a lot of who the grave mind, and bias is and their motives are explained in the forerunner saga of novels. Vid I pretty good otherwise. Not sure if you’re aware a lot of the novel writers are the same individuals who wrote for the games when apart of bungie. The novels are essentially halos expanded universe. They are awesome in filling in many wholes games left vague.

Its incredibly bizarre these books with the most spectacular stories produced within 343 are leagues better than anything they have done with a game. Closing up these vital plot points within novels and comics is especially frustrating for most people.

@BurnedRemains

4 ай бұрын

Because it only takes one mind to write a book and it’s therefore far easier to keep the storyline free from plot holes

@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646

4 ай бұрын

To be fair, books allow for more creative storytelling. Halo: Ghosts of Oynx is better than any game Bungie had put out.

@JackJonValois

4 ай бұрын

@@BurnedRemains Plot holes aren't the issue in 343's story designs, very poor inconsistent writing is.

@JackJonValois

4 ай бұрын

@@masterchiefpettyofficerspa3646 Ehhhhh, for military fiction its one of the best. The games had so much more value even with the little they did compared to it.

@Italkmadshitlol

4 ай бұрын

Their books read like theyre wrote by a autistic children rushing to get a fanfic posted for the night.

It's kind of a bummer that every story decision since Halo 5 has felt like damage control instead of passionate and intentional creative vision. Hopefully with the old management gone, 343 can start telling good Halo stories with bold artistic choices and direction that honors the Halo legacy

@stickmastergib3665

4 ай бұрын

I’ll believe it when I see it cause 343 is 0-3. They can’t start telling good stories until they retcon everything post-2010, which we know they don’t have the balls to do.

@DeltaDanner

4 ай бұрын

@@stickmastergib3665they pretty much retconned Halo 5 in Infinite but then they left us on a cliffhanger that could really use DLC. Too bad they fired the campaign team.

@theantianimeassociation7574

4 ай бұрын

Fr Halo Infinites story wasn’t bad but it wasn’t that great either, it was very safe and didn’t do much vision and creative wise.

@xx_amongus_xx6987

4 ай бұрын

@@DeltaDanner Maybe it's for the better honestly. With the cliffhanger of Halo Infinite introducing time travel in the Halo universe for some stupid reason, they would just have to write themselves out of that down the line. Time travel in Halo makes no sense and will only make the story worse and more convoluted. I'm glad there's a chance now that we won't get a continuation of that plot point. But who knows.

@Vonmoonlight

4 ай бұрын

​@xx_amongus_xx6987 was it actually confirmed time travel? I just assumed it's because time runs differently in different parts of the universe You know all those mumbo jumbo temporal disorder and flow. Different parts of space bla bla bla And I always assumed that the whole Time is not a construct we can control And we allow it to be theirs I assumed it was metaphorically like history of now and future cannot be theirs to write. Like it's my time to shine, yours just ended type of deal

The Logic Plague remained dormant until she became rampant. Basically, the Flood wanted her to ''claim the Mantle'' - which was tantamount to delivering the galaxy to the Flood on a silverplater (unbeknownst to her and everyone Created-alligned).

@user-ug6sm4nj9b

4 ай бұрын

Man the flood sure are super smart are they

@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1

4 ай бұрын

@@user-ug6sm4nj9b Graveminds are on their own. Imagine what billions of graveminds could do.

@user-ug6sm4nj9b

4 ай бұрын

@@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 well Im imagining now and it is horrifying

@edwing72

4 ай бұрын

@@user-ug6sm4nj9bImagine having access to billions of minds worth of experience and the capacity to use it intelligently, that’s basically what the flood does.

@user-ug6sm4nj9b

4 ай бұрын

@@edwing72 well imagine there were trillions of graveminds or more than that

>343's Halo games are still dependent on the novels This isn't good news.

@EastlakeRasta7

4 ай бұрын

Especially if you look at Thor Skywalker's video where he discusses the sales of the high Republic series and the first couple books did pretty good number wise but after the first three or so it just tanks and the comics didn't do too well either. I commented that he should do a similar video but with the Halo novels, because I didn't start reading the novels until I was a senior in high school and even then I don't really read those books much because I got other stuff on my plate between work school and other books that I need to read.

@GamingTalk-cl7xj

4 ай бұрын

Only Halo fandom somehow thinks including the EU is a bad thing

@minilla2382

4 ай бұрын

@@GamingTalk-cl7xj pretty sure Halo fans don't wanna read multiple books just to understand the lore for one game 💀

@GamingTalk-cl7xj

4 ай бұрын

@@minilla2382 done properly the game can stand on its own and EU is additive for the fans that pay attention. Also a Wikipedia scroll or Halo YT content creator should suffice over reading if you don’t want to

@redaug4212

4 ай бұрын

@@GamingTalk-cl7xj It certainly is a bad thing when the premise of the games is being decided by the books.

343 and Microsoft: Don't ask questions. Just consume product and then get excited for next product.

@anthonycarlisle6184

4 ай бұрын

True, but that dialogue is especially applicable here

@hypeman1825

4 ай бұрын

@@Norcat10Not true but it is largely true lol. Some games actually care about the story they have to tell or the game they’re making. That’s why god of war still did great.

@Geo-Global-oz5kl

4 ай бұрын

@@hypeman1825 Sythinic Man would like to talk with you. No, seriously God of War is boring, at least when I played it, I do agree with Synthetic Man on his take though.

@hypeman1825

3 ай бұрын

@@Geo-Global-oz5kl Bro synthetic man complains about every game he plays and almost blows a gasket the second he sees a female lead lmao. Like it was applicable when it was TLOU2 but dude ALL he does is whine lmao.

@hypeman1825

3 ай бұрын

@@Geo-Global-oz5kl I’m dying lmaooo… just looking back at his channel reminded me why so many unsubbed. Guy literally hates everything 😂😂😂😂

Doubt I’ll ever get hyped for a halo game again

@Kid_Charlemagne

4 ай бұрын

Same, watching these guys just kinda grasp at any straw that 343 shits out is funny though.

@exalted_space9224

4 ай бұрын

343 never was able to grasp the feeling of bungie era halo at all. Didn't help they never even tried.

@deliriumstatus1333

4 ай бұрын

I played the first 2 levels of Halo 4 story, stopped, and never touched a halo game again. I was the biggest fan of Bungie's Halo series; they were my childhood. To make me not want to even try a new Halo game for over a decade is a monumental achievement. Well done, 343. They couldn't even copy/paste Bungie's Halo series onto a single disk without screwing it up. The anniversary editions were a shit show.

@Masi-One

4 ай бұрын

@@Kid_Charlemagne yet you are here watching these guys, that is funny though

@Borgron

4 ай бұрын

@@deliriumstatus1333talk about a good call. Wish I’d done the same all those years ago.

343 is just going to do what 343 does. Not follow the previous games story and make a game where no one knows wtf is going on unless you read every single book. Don't get hyped for this crap. It will be a let down like usual.

@evansuarez5432

4 ай бұрын

Exactly

@jairusdeleon8915

4 ай бұрын

these sellout Halo youtubers need money. didnt even care that with the new lore being the Forerunners not being human, made the original trilogy’s Human-Covenant War especially the book Contact Harvest IRRELEVANT because the Prophets waged war vs the humans is because the very Forerunners the Covenant were worshipping and looking for and that “transcended in the Great Journey” ARE THE HUMANS. the human-covenant war’s version in Halo 4-onwards is NOT the version depicted in Halo 1-3

@wiktorb6846

4 ай бұрын

true

@rm25088

4 ай бұрын

@@jairusdeleon8915 I remember playing halo 4 for the first time and the librarian part started. I said who the fuck is this and what is it talking about? Also the didact. Who the hell is this? Then halo 5 came out and I still had no idea what was going on, and it had very little to do with 4, and Infinite I was confused as hell too. I had to go watch you tube videos to figure out what was happening. I didn't have to do all that with ce-3. Even reach was pretty clear.

@camsoup101

4 ай бұрын

One of the lead developers literally said they don't need to make a good game, they just need to make a halo game. Lol

343i did to Cortana what Bungie originaly planed for Halo CE back in the days. The next main Halo game should also have Jerome-092, Isabelle and the Red Team as also main characters.........

@samlund8543

4 ай бұрын

“In the original script, when Chief returns to the Control Room, Cortana would have gone mad with power and tried to take over the universe.” “What happened to that story?” (Jokingly) “It was too good, we had to use this one instead” I feel like 343 should’ve taken the hint…

I wish we never got this huge influx of backstory on the Forerunners, they easily could have had us going to other rings or Forerunner locations hunting for the truth behind what went down between the ancient humans/flood/forerunners all while giving us the old mysterious feel that let our minds wander and make up our own theories

@stryletz

4 ай бұрын

Fun Fact: Bungie never wanted to delve too much into who or what the Forerunners were. Basically, a low level Bungie employee who was in charge of some of Halo 3’s viral marketing made his own head canon, got hired by 343 and pushed to make his own idea canon… And 343 probably allowed it because they’re creatively bankrupt.

@thorne3996

4 ай бұрын

I agree with this wholeheartedly! Great point

@Vonmoonlight

4 ай бұрын

​@@stryletzit's obvious they never decided how and what the Forerunner shouldve been. You can see how it always seem to see saw between Humans and Forerunners are the same while the other is Humans are separate from Forerunners. The whole 343 GS saying you are Forerunner. It honestly boil down to alot of factors.. He is going kookoo, and his logic of reclaimer and Forerunner doesn't matter anymore, might as well be the same as they would take over the relics of the past and resume tech progression of that era. And if Humans were Forerunners to begin with, Cortana having access to the Ring's database, she would've known about it.. yet she acted so indifferently, in fact more surprised of this origin of this Forerunner species. And its clear that Cortana knows more than she let's on to everyone Like the only time she has accessed Forerunner data is Halo 1. And beyond that, she was always captured by the Flood. Yet she knew of the Ark, the final place to trigger all the Halos. And this VERY IMPORTANT detail was never let known to the UNSC??? So her knowing alot more, and yet never once said Humans are Forerunners... Honestly I would take it as Humans and Forerunners were assumed separate up to Halo 3 development still. 343 GS would be assumed as mentally unstable. Since an AI like him is supposed to help reclaimers/Forerunners, yet he is going rogue and targeting supposed allies. Any word he says aside from his possessiveness of his ring is not credible

@Fuk99999

4 ай бұрын

I agree. Especially since Bungie seldom did, and when they did, they didn’t over show anything

@Fuk99999

4 ай бұрын

@@stryletzthere is no confirmation of this tho. Just some theory fans have invented. This change happened in Halo 3, and uh…as I’ve said elsewhere, the terminal entry *in* halo 3 doesn’t even logically align with what 343 actually did in the end. There’s a vague outline of forerunners (particularly the librarian) coming across ancient humanity on earth and seeing potential in them….and then there’s “ancient humanity were highly advanced and also enemies to the forerunners” which is what 343 actually did, and is a weird hybrid combo of the original Bungie idea with the rogue terminal writers. Imagine that. 343 taking a bad idea and a good idea, combining them, and making something substantially worse.

There NEEDS to be more Flood in Halo's future

@feymasons.7835

4 ай бұрын

Real

@Green-IV

4 ай бұрын

the game called Halo- named after a device that kills flood- and the flood are no where. Lol. You right there needs 2 be more activity there- even if only built up over time- doesnt need to be instant but it needs to be relevant

@bossredd-77

4 ай бұрын

The Flood is basically 99.9% why Halo even exist.

@bossredd-77

4 ай бұрын

If it was so easy to kill the Flood the Forerunners would have done it long ago.

@Green-IV

4 ай бұрын

@@bossredd-77 right sorry- it kills the food not the flood- my bad lol but that was my point- and either way Halo is responsible for killing the flood even if by starvation

Make sure Cortana keeps her halo 4 model please 🙏🏻

@SpeedyGaming

4 ай бұрын

Not happening unfortunately due to new DEI standards, skintight and curvy Cortana will never return until we tel Microsoft to shove DEI out the window.

@MrGrandure

4 ай бұрын

She is going to identify as a he

@Sohelanthropus

4 ай бұрын

​@@SpeedyGamingtbf H4 Cortana was just a thirst trap imo, I like her design in H5 or Infinite way better

@DirectalYT

4 ай бұрын

i perfer the h3 design ngl. I like halo 4s but i want h4 with halo 3 design

@caseydew6882

4 ай бұрын

I say her Halo 3 and 4 designs were best. Halo 5 was good too, but the infinite design was awful. It was the worst iteration ever of Cortana

They did WHAT to halo

@AngelicBeatdown

4 ай бұрын

*Fish from Spongebob* "YOU WHAT?!"

@FishNamedWall

4 ай бұрын

@@AngelicBeatdownwhich fish, literally all of them are fish

@GreenKnightMods

4 ай бұрын

@@AngelicBeatdown WHAT DID U DO TO MY DRINK

@FishNamedWall

4 ай бұрын

@@GreenKnightMods my drink..? My diet Doctor Kelp!? How am I supposed to eat this *WITHOUT MY DRINK!?*

nah bro it sounds so weird to hear people talking about "halo 7"

@Borgron

4 ай бұрын

I think we got so used to the drought that a normal release schedule feels off.

@tehlion7430

4 ай бұрын

@@Borgron a normal releases schedule would mean h7 would come out this year, we're still gonna be in drought

@Borgron

4 ай бұрын

@@tehlion7430 true. With rumors of it being in development only surfacing now, it could be 2027 before it actually releases. Murder Miners X might actually come first lol.

@awesomeguy9513

4 ай бұрын

I thought infinite was supposed to be this 10 year game with seasons and campaign dlc

@Borgron

4 ай бұрын

@@awesomeguy9513 honestly, I’m kinda glad that didn’t happen.

It’s time to start coping on the next sequel! Let’s GOOOOOO!!!!

@HaloFollower-Ron

4 ай бұрын

😂 so true tho

@frankwainwright7826

4 ай бұрын

In Halo 5 cortana was rampant and then escaped into the domain, they already explained why she was acting crazy ​@@HaloFollower-Ron

Why doesn't anything actually happen in the games? Everything interesting happens in the books nowadays! Wtf

@evansuarez5432

4 ай бұрын

Because 343 is incompetent that’s why

@nobodykayaks1041

4 ай бұрын

343 hates their own fanbase, to they spite us for daring to have standards set by the first 3 games

@samlund8543

4 ай бұрын

Because the actual game writers don’t know wtf they’re supposed to do, especially having to work off of 3 largely unconnected / shitty game stories. The book writers have a lot more freedom to do whatever they want, for better for worse.

@mitchelkvedar674

4 ай бұрын

Yep

3:45 Nah. Forget it. That's just the socks 343 is wearing at the moment. They never commit to anything. They'll drop it and start something else in no time.

The crazy thing is that Cortina's evil storyline would have been ok if that was what they had advertised from the start. If in Halo 4's legendary ending, we say her, alive in the domain but clearly corrupted, it would have brought hype and some sense of what to expect going forward. Instead, halo 5 released and confused everyone, which led to 343 panicking to end the confusion, which after that didn't work, they scraped the whole thing. Just a terribly managed story overall

I mean this could repair some parts of the story but ultimately, the damage is done. Halo should never have been about NEEDING to read the books to understand what’s going on or what happened “off camera”.

Would love to see Warden return and after basically being killed by Didact in Epitath, all that’s left of Warden is this super Chill variant that ends up being a good guy. Seeing that contrast would just be funny as hell

@EastlakeRasta7

4 ай бұрын

I don't read any of the books, what I would naturally assume if Cortana has the logic plague, i honestly forgot that was a thing because it never truly gets mentioned in game, I would assume that Cortana would infect the warden with the logic plague 🤷🏽‍♂️

@darkspark5854

4 ай бұрын

Epitaph confirmed who Warden is and when it does trust me, he didn’t need the logic plague to make him crazy

@EastlakeRasta7

4 ай бұрын

@@darkspark5854 the logic plague would merely just confirm that he is an enemy and can never be an ally along with raising the stakes a bit more 🤷🏽‍♂️ I am never buying these books so I could care less if you spoil anything for me

@darkspark5854

4 ай бұрын

Basically Warden is the manifestation of the obsession of a group of forrunners who traversed the domain to learn its secrets. When the domain was damaged by the firing of the halo rings, the Warden manifested as a response. Warden however was trapped right outside the domain determined to get back in. Warden defied passage to all who tried to enter the domain which actually kept the domain from healing. It’s hard to say whether Warden was aware of this or not. Cortana eventually showed up and snuck past Warden into the domain and took control. Warden was forced to serve her but Cortana promised Warden access to the domain in return for his loyalty. Despite Cortana’s supposed control over the Warden, this seemed to be somewhat limited as Warden constantly defied her during halo 5 because for some reason he was really committed to cock blocking Chief.

@TinkerTailorSailorTy

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the spoiler

Okay about the idea of Didact being a spiritual guide for Chief, just imagine if he gives Chief a Riftblade. Chief has been in need of a proper power upgrade for some time and a Riftblade would be epic.

@Italkmadshitlol

4 ай бұрын

Gay

i haven't finished the video, the thing I want from the next halo game is a story that actually continues the plot from the previous game and not retcon anything

@caseydew6882

4 ай бұрын

The retcon: Master chief wakes from cryo sleep on the "forward onto dawn" and the events of Halo 4,5,& Infinite never happened. Cortana trapped him in a simulation having been corrupted by the logic plague and her death in infinite cures her. Then recovery of her data with chief and the weapon "aka amnesia Cortana" cures her mind and they defeat the simulated baddies to finally free themselves never knowing that it was all fake until chief wakes up.

I always told people Cortana had the logic plague in halo 5, activated once she hit the domain. Guardians meant to soften up galaxy’s military for Floods return. Nice to know it’s official

Loved halo 4’s story when it came out, still love it today. It showed a more personal side of chief without sacrificing the badass character we know and love.

@mitchelkvedar674

4 ай бұрын

Halo 4 was good and got too much hate

@Italkmadshitlol

4 ай бұрын

​@@mitchelkvedar674because it was trash

@Cklert

4 ай бұрын

@@Italkmadshitlol Eh, it was alright, but a disappointment compared to its predecesors. You don't come back from the ending of Reach, to that.

@hypeman1825

4 ай бұрын

@@mitchelkvedar674Ehhh it’s pretty trash. Literally the only thing good is the more flushed out personal relationship with chief and Cortana.. nobody cares AT ALL any about rest. Can definitely say from a GAMEPLAY perspective.. it’s the worst of the 343 trilogy because the prometheans are legitimately BORING to fight.

Making Cortana an antagonist was one of the worst plot turns ever, in my opinion, so I always preferred that theory about logic plague from the Gravemind, so if they make it canon, it'll be cool. At least Chief will feel a little better, knowing it wasn't Cortana's fault.

So your problems were that characters who had no way of knowing about the Logic Plague, didn't bring up the Logic Plague? The story, Human Weakness showed us what the Gravemind told Cortana while she was in its custody, and her assertions in Halo 5 that didn't mesh with who she was before her capture, are all ideas that came from the Gravemind, so we already had evidence that she carried the Logic Plague, before Epitaph came out.

>Oh cool, >Re-installs halo infinite >Ew I want my money back >Uninstalls >Yeah nah, im good On another note, the logic plague is so cool, but they will fail us, again, wake up ppl

I hope they explain what happened to the Spirit of Fire and her crew. It would be very disappointing if the culmination of the story told in the Halo Wars games was just *"Oh, they all died off screen. Murdered in their entirety by the Banished."*

I thought 343 was going to go back to halo 4 and try again.

We need Lasky back in Halo 7.

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

I second this👆👆👆👆👆

They need to let Kelly Gay write the damn storyline. She writes the greatest Halo novels. She knows Blue team and established lore and has done so much to add to and enrich it.

@nobodykayaks1041

4 ай бұрын

idk eric nylund was a great writer

@MrHurst-lb1rn

4 ай бұрын

@@nobodykayaks1041 absolutely! He understands the lore

Halo 4 didn't make any major story mistakes.

@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1

4 ай бұрын

Right. Lorewise, _Halo 4_ was fine.

@valletas

4 ай бұрын

The game literally retcons the forerunners being human

@nima266

4 ай бұрын

Pfft OK.

@willy_b_coyote

4 ай бұрын

@@valletasActually, Bungie retconned that. That was the original plan for the forerunner’s originally but Bungie ended up scrapping it and leaving it ambiguous.

@Edithae

4 ай бұрын

​@@willy_b_coyote Was that the case from the start in Halo:CE? If not, at what point did Bungie retcon it?

4, 5 and Infinite do not exist. Halo ended at 3. 343 is just making fanfic

@lalalalalalalalalala-js5xl

4 ай бұрын

Fanfiction exists

@jairusdeleon8915

4 ай бұрын

funny enough, the lore from Halo 4 made it so that Halo 1-3 didn’t exist because it retconned the entire original trilogy and all then story premises lol

I count the books as fan fiction. I rather have a prequel game or just reboot a proper sequel to Halo 3. Edit: I can see the 343i apologists coming in already.

@evansuarez5432

4 ай бұрын

They need to create a system to mend this misconception. The games should be the one telling the primary storyline not the books. Those are written by out of touch authors that don’t know what makes Halo great

@sekiko7183

4 ай бұрын

@@evansuarez5432 THANK YOU!

@Pooh0Bear8

4 ай бұрын

💯

@CloneCommanderCrater1102

4 ай бұрын

It's funny how you people talk about how only 343i makes the books important to understanding the story, even though that's always been the case since the Bungie days. Just going off of the games, you wouldn't know jack shit about the Spartan-II or Spartan-III programs, you wouldn't know anything about Johnson's backstory or how he escaped Installation 04, you wouldn't know why the Covenant were attacking humanity, you wouldn't know who Halsey was or why she was important, you would barely know any of the background of the main story. The books have quite literally always been important to fleshing out the background of Halo's story since the release of The Fall of Reach back in 2001.

@bjiornbjiorn

4 ай бұрын

Amusingly the Fall of Reach was published before Halo: CE was released.

343 while wanting to get the next halo game out, should take there time. Make sure the game is done, and that with these books. The fans have some context going in. Ready to see the rest of the story. There’s a lot that they need to wrap up. The new halo ring from wars 2. The endless. The infinity. There’s probably a lot more I’m not thinking off, but those are the biggest ones I’m thinking off. Not to mention the created. The grave mind itself too since Cortana was affected by it. So they have a lot of things to be aware of when continuing the story. And I feel like now they are really trying to have things figured out with the lore before the next halo game(s)

@kondouvt

4 ай бұрын

they cant take their time because microsoft wants it that way

Did you forget that the rampant cortana died in 4, and her program was uploaded into the domain and recreated . Thats not our old cortana she died in 4. I feel like im taking crazy pills did nobody play 4 and 5? Did nobody pay attention to the dialogue?

Dear god please bring back Spartan abilities in Halo 7. Matter of fact, bring back Warzone and all those sweet weapons and vehicles.

No hate, but like… you made a vid based off someone’s Reddit comment without reading the book? Read the book this week and then do a video? Why do it like this?

I thought it was pretty established that Cortina had the logic plague sacrificed herself in H4 but split herself and the rampant form made it to the mantle. So idk where you got oh good Cortana just turned evil for no reason.

Best channel to learn halo content or what’s been happening

Still waiting to hear about Cutter and the Fire

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

Halo wars 3🙏🙏👆

I want the flood!!!!!

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

That would revamp everything!!!

If there was a Sargent Johnson prequel game that would be so epic. Or a prequel game with more of Noble-6.

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

I SECOND THIS!!!👆👆👆👆👆

I love how the first thing that came to mind for me was retconning the Didact and then I immediately had to look up from what I was doing because the video was on 2:41

Completely fucking totalled it in 2012

What 343 did to Cortana in infinite was awful. Killing her off like that completely ruined her character. Her resurrection in halo 5 was completely wasted by having her killed like that. Her death was barely even a sacrifice because she was going to die by Atriox anyway. And Atriox survived anyway. Cortana deserves to be properly redeemed. I don’t care what anyone says. Infinite’s ending was rushed and disrespectful.

@EastlakeRasta7

4 ай бұрын

Apparently this is a hard pill to swallow but some villains are just left being villains especially without a machine ai's brain works and then they're infected with the logic plague there is no coming back 🤦🏾

@OtakuHound

3 ай бұрын

The stories weren't the best but I still very much enjoyed the campaigns and story of Halo 4 and 5 (regardless of the covenant re-design of Halo 4), So much could have been done to complete the story in a true HALO 6 game (continued the story instead of off-screen completion). They could have at least made it play out after Cortana was separated from John.

"likely tried to send master chief to REQWIUM" 3:18

You know a location id like to see in game is Maethrillian. Maybe they could involve the Domain if they made a game location set there.

They need to focus on the campaign! Stop with the open world sh*t and make the campaigns great again like Halo 1,2,3.

343, bad decisions? Impossible

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

Lol😂😂😂

Halo 4 storywise gave a nice closing for Halo for me and gave me the best thing in my mind, The Ancestors, I love them.

I would absolutely love it if you did a book breakdown I’ve read the book already, but it’s just nice to go back over parts that I missed and understand things better because of the perspective you add to it

One of the main problems I have with 343's approach is that they ignored the covenant saga along with all of its consequences. The Covenant was disolved after being an interstellar empire for thousands of years, the gravemind was killed, two Halo instalations were destroyed and one monitor, 343 Guilty Spark was killed. Why the FUCK didn't they do ANY follow up whatsoever? Except for the Sangheili (the Elites), we don't know what the other species are doing in their own homeworlds, especially the prophets, who would definitely try to regain power or get revenge somehow. As for the monitors of the installations, we already know they can attack reclaimers. After one of them was killed by the reclaimers, they sure too would react in some way. And then there's the Banished. Now we would have several factions with potential stories of their own. The Halo universe could expand like crazy by connecting the new story with the old one. I don't like 343's story reboots at all.

@chromicm6686

4 ай бұрын

Because they didnt care about what had been left to them. They wanted to tell theirbown new story, that hubris and lack of respect for the lore and fanbase killed the franchise.

@jairusdeleon8915

4 ай бұрын

If you read Contact Harvest, it is written there is the very premise of the Human-Covenant War seen in Bungie’s Halo series. The Prophets discovered in Harvest that the very Forerunners they were worshipping and have been telling that the “Forerunners transcended to godhood with the Great Journey” were alive right before their very eyes and in order to protect their power and the Covenant, they had to wage war vs the humans to cover up the lie that their whole religion and empire is a huge scam. Now that version of the Human-Covenant War seen in Halo 1-3 does not exist in Halo 4 onwards.

Edging to this vid right now

Hot take. It was Offensive Bias helping chief and the weapon during Halo Infinite. Atriox is after Mendicant bias.

I'm not too optimistic about it. 343 had an issue with committing long term with anything so far.

343 killed Halo.... Go play helldivers 2 guys

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

We need bungie back!!!

@HeWatched

4 ай бұрын

Xbox players only got halo, not even that anymore but let me cling onto what makes me special… Ed

@possessedlampshade178

4 ай бұрын

Helldivers replaced halo for me. Infinite's shop killed it for me

@theodortoghe6662

4 ай бұрын

I used to be such a crazy loving fan of the Bungie halo trilogy. The corporate greed and 343 incompetence has killed any excitement this franchise can ever have. Just look at Halo infinite's "micro" transactions and compare them with helldivers 2. I swear Helldivers 2 made me realize what actually a true honest micro transaction should be like.

@thegamingcook785

4 ай бұрын

@@TrueTributes13 bungie is no better. Current bungie would make a single halo game and constantly release 50 dollar Dlc packs lol

Halo infinite has nothing wrong with the campaign

@lukeludwig1055

4 ай бұрын

😳

@hypeman1825

4 ай бұрын

Sure dude and everyone’s favorite enemy faction was the PROMETHEANS.

I would love to see Blue Team back, and even the team play co op dynamic from Halo 5

I kinda hope it’s a little like 5 with blue team and lockes team

Humans are Forerunners. No matter what 343 tried to ruin.

@anthonycarlisle6184

4 ай бұрын

Exactly! Stay true! 👍 343's input is just a "bad ending"/what if storyline and just as canonical as paramount's Mr Cheeks 'silver storyline'.

@cringelord2875

4 ай бұрын

Actually that was a bungie decision n back in H3 in the terminals left by medican bias, 343 just ran with what bungie left

@cringelord2875

4 ай бұрын

​@anthonycarlisle6184 no, just replay 3 an ld read the terminals, Bungie had intended humans and forerunners to be separate

@SFT49

4 ай бұрын

@@cringelord2875 Literally everything they setup had humans as forerunners. What one guy at the end of Bungie’s run added to terminals that contradicted what Guilty Spark says outright is irrelevant.

@cringelord2875

4 ай бұрын

@MLC4333 it wasn't "one guy" it was the team's decision, but because "number company must be bad" yall keep over looking it and refuse to acknowledged it because you keep looking at bungie with nostalgia glasses glued to your heads

Oh yes, I mean Saturn Devouring his Son proved the Flood still has a presence in the galaxy.. it would make total sense for them to come back, especially knowing that the Flood now knows how to breach Spartan armor systems and all that. Just, so much they can do.. really hope it does go somewhere.

The thing that I dislike probably the most about the direction the franchise has taken in the past 10 years, and something that is probably not a popular opinion, is the absence of mystery. One of my favorite things about the first trilogy is how mysterious everything seemed to be. The forerunners, the flood, the halo rings and the ark. At the start, nobody knew where they came from or what happened in the universe before the current era. There was so much mystery in the whole universe and that’s what made it so appealing. With all of this new lore that seems to explain away every single detail, it seems like the soul of the franchise is missing. Halo was something for you to explore not something to be explained to you. I don’t feel like there’s anything to explore anymore. A lot of the books are great and all, and I’m sure a lot of the Lore addicts are big fans of it, but for me, it destroys the air of mystery that made halo such a unique product in the sci-fi genre. The horror aspects that set combat evolved apart, and were influential in two and three are completely missing now due to some overly dramatic and frankly contrived material that is so stereotypically sci-fi. Nothing about halo is unique anymore. It’s become so conformist It doesn’t resemble the original product. Some things were better left unexplained. it increased the drama and completely changed the tone of the story. With those details added in and the mystery gone we are left with something that is more complete yet feels emptier than it has ever been.

Honestly... this book changes so much, but I'm here for it. This has been the most exciting shift in Halo EU in ages. 5:58 i doubt he will show up, however.

Gravemind explanation is fine, I guess? However it was my head cannon that The Domain that "cured" rampancy, really just stabilized it. AIs would still face degradation of their mind and logic, but from their own perspective the changes they were undergoing seemed to always be there and not a result of rampancy and they fixed the danger of just falling apart like Sloan was when you meet him in Halo 5.

I think we can all appreciate that 343 is trying so hard too fix Halo 5, at least they recognize what they did with Halo 5 was a mistake. Still, at this point 343 needs to focus on hiring professional game devs. Not including split-screen, assassinations, and lack of proper customization are all holding 343 back.

@nobodykayaks1041

4 ай бұрын

seems like theyre trying to snatch some form of victory from the ashes of a franchise they themselves destroyed, dont forget hen they blamed halo infinites failure on toxic fans, ukraine war, and microsoft.

Cortana as I know her died in 4. Made me cry, thought it was bittersweet.

I aways thought that cortana died in Halo 4. What we see in Halo 5 and Infinite is just an Echo, one of her fragments. Maybe she would not be driven mad if she stayed together, but at the end of halo 4 she literally broke and got corrupted.

At the end of the day, the campaign writers have no idea what they are doing and the book authors are just trying to put out the fires that are started.

They should have just stuck with the original script of Forerunners being ancient humans

@TrueTributes13

4 ай бұрын

That would of been the proper choice👆👆

@Arander92

3 ай бұрын

Why? That would make the Forerunners so boring

Definitely love this lore ima go through the book soon Been working my way through them all

Halo 4 story was great

Halo has the biggest potential to tell the most epic stories. If Microsoft wants to make money off Halo, hire the right person to write the story of Halo that we all want, the Bungie story.

The only villain the next game needs is Atriox. He has all the potential not just as a threatening villain but as a dynamic character.

So 343 turned it around so that its bungies fault that cortana went mad😂

Yes please, review Epitaph when you are done! Just finished it. Kelly Gay is amazing.

Based on the book, I could see the Didact, Librarian and the Lord of Admirals all being part of some sort of spiritual guide. It was a great book!

i’ve genuinely just completely given up on halo. I’ve been a fan of the franchise my entire life and just nothing gives me hope

I finished that book in 3 days it was really good, the Flood is definitely coming back

So introduce the flood back in Halo 7, and make 4-5 Gravemind playing 6d chess. Yes, hell yes. With 343 idiotic management gone, there is actually some hope for tge franchise.

All I can say is why haven’t 343/Microsoft hired the writers of the Halo books to create the storylines and lore for the games? They seem to be much more knowledgeable and passionate of the Halo Universe than anyone currently working at 343/Microsoft.

REALLY wish 343 would just outright retcon everything they've written and start fresh, this time WITHOUT relying so heavily on material outside the games.

I really enjoyed halo 4 tbh, I dunno how they dropped the ball with Halo 5 from a story standpoint when the entire implication from Halo 4s campaign was that Cortana was obviously corrupted and acting out someone else's intentions....Halo 5 was like...false advertising cause there was very little part of the whole campaign that felt like it was anything more than just shooting at the prometheans and watching the UNSC go on menial tasks just for Cortana to act out her plan anyways

The problem is that none of the 343 games set any of this up. So to go this route in Halo 7 is gonna relegate all of this storytelling to exposition instead of actually seeing all of this unfold. It's going to be the same as Halo Infinite and how it told the story of what happened to Cortana, basically dying off screen. It's gonna take some serious talent to pull off a retcon like this.

You should do an Epitaph book breakdown

What happened to Rampancy? Wasn't that already established all through Halo 4 and 5 as the primary factor for Cortanas madness? Am I just supposed to disregard that now since I haven't kept up with the books?

I miss the damn flood. I wish we got a flood boss mission too...

Man, it sure would be great if i could just play a GAME with all the stories from the damn books...

looking forward to Halo 7 but in other news Gears 6 is in development:P

Okay me personally I've been a really big fan of Halo and to me yes Halo has come a long way but based on what 343 did to Halo they removed assassinations for Halo infinite the campaign wasn't very good for Halo 5 me personally I feel like Bungie did a better job than 343 but I do agree with your decision though

@Valkyrae123

4 ай бұрын

343 will never come close to a game good as bungies

How wonderful it feels to be a Kingdom He-Halo fan

Yes, please break down the books!

343's or more specifically Frankie's changes to Halo universe left a scar on the lore that have fundamentally convoluted the universe, forever disconnecting it from the "rule of cool." But the largest sin committed by those two are the marine erasure and loss of personality and tone that propelled the Bungie era games.

Can you imagine the next big Halo is called Halo 6 as if Infinite never even happened? Boy, that would be the ultimate damage control move

All I care about is that they make a very long single-player campaign that I can't finish overnight or even a few days. I want a campaign that you physically couldn't finish for 30 days even if you played nonstop. That way all these influencers don't just ruin the scene with spoilers on KZread from being very far along since it'll take forever to finish the game. Also for extreme value and replayability.

Imagine the plot twist at the end of the halo series is the master chief and the entire galaxy is actually infected by the flood and all the events throughout the halo series is actually the grave mind going through the master chief memories because the master chief is the last being in the galaxy to get infected by the grave mind. An very unlikely theory I know but not out of the realm of halo possibilities

More book breakdowns!

They need to get rid of death barriers. It ruined the whole exploration of halo when you think you can be somewhere and that 10 second timer pops up

I like the books I just started Thursday war but what saddens me is that they don’t cover chief much all u ever do is just hear about him like two sentences after first strike😢 I miss the dude

343i lore is fanfiction, nothing else.