I need 128 bit because only peasants use less than 16 billion gigabytes of RAM.

@djchs9166

8 жыл бұрын

+Julian Bell i need 1000bit bitch get on my level

@jonoyt

8 жыл бұрын

he said 16 billion BYTES 1 gigabyte = 1,000,000 bytes(approximately

@jonoyt

8 жыл бұрын

)

@jonoyt

8 жыл бұрын

oh wait no he didn't fuck

@7i4nf4n

8 жыл бұрын

+Mr. Littlenewo At least you see your mistake ;) :D

So you're telling me I CANT install my 32bit software twice to get 64bits???

@dylanforgaming98

7 жыл бұрын

Alex G No, that would be a 33 bit. Lol

@MrKralkop

6 жыл бұрын

No it would be 3232 bits actually, dont you know math? 32+32=3232

@JustPlayerDE

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrKralkop are you programmed in javascript?

@o_tout0

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrKralkop Wait meaning installing the program twice making the performance 50.5 times the power. Compared to 64 bit because 3232 bit. I guess.

@arttulindroos6686

4 жыл бұрын

GoldenRuleRock MCG do you understand sarcasm

2014: "Who knows we might need more than 4gb of ram in our phones" 2020: "yeeee maybe a 4² gb is enough "

@BradElliot

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@AK-tf3fc

3 жыл бұрын

My PC has only 2 gb ddr3 ram

@AK-tf3fc

3 жыл бұрын

@Ethan Parks Win 7 SP 1

@AK-tf3fc

3 жыл бұрын

@Ethan Parks It was the ultimate version not the home version. Cost me 1.5 us dollars to buy Windows 7 back in 2010

@AK-tf3fc

3 жыл бұрын

@Ethan Parks Windows 8 wasn't available in 2010. Windows 7 was the best OS back then. So I pay the went to the biggest computer store in the city and bought the Windows 7 ultimate disk which cost around 100 rupees back then(less than1.5 US dollars)

Linus: "but since the last fall's launch of the iPhone 5s" Me: "Wait, what?" * realizes this video was posted in 2014*

@panikcatlady4489

2 жыл бұрын

SAME i was like huh what then i looked at the date😭😭

@senatorpoopypants7182

Жыл бұрын

lol same

Jesus.. I thought this was recent.. But 2014.. 😂 😂

@EdPMur

3 жыл бұрын

2:53 "...their latest Windows 8.1 OS" That's when it really hit me

@finnk1289

3 жыл бұрын

Some things don't change...

@OniiRem

3 жыл бұрын

Still good for today's video standards

@sravanharsha3999

3 жыл бұрын

Linus was always way ahead of his time

@kizukimitsuni7215

3 жыл бұрын

Same same😂~

"Bring on the 128 bit!" cracked me up faster than an iphone screen

@user-ty6we2sp2m

6 жыл бұрын

My brothers Blu after 2 months (It's my Pokemon go vid...)

@ebrahimkakhi8836

5 жыл бұрын

The 6th generation of video games were 128bit (ps2, dreamcast)

@meh5812

4 жыл бұрын

cheap ass screens

@xlordplayz3089

3 жыл бұрын

We need 256 bit

@Taylor-hc6ro

3 жыл бұрын

We need 8 gigabits

"Who knows when our phones will need more than 4gb ram?" Yes.

@Crecross

Жыл бұрын

I mean it's about to be 2023 and iphones still only have 6gb of ram

@LonelyxBoy

10 ай бұрын

​@@Crecrossfor Android 6 is minimum and 8 or more to be more comfortable with big games iphones require less

@steeg03

9 ай бұрын

​@@LonelyxBoyyou fell for the hype. No mobile game even comes close to utilising that much ram

@LonelyxBoy

9 ай бұрын

@@steeg03 looks like you haven't tried heavier games than Subway surface, try genshin impact and you will see by yourself how much ram it sucks And also my phone has 6 gm rams and i definitely need more, 8 will be fine since i don't game now

@Graphite974

2 ай бұрын

@@steeg03A single app might not but the phone itself certainly now can and often does.

And here we are now in 2019 complaining about phones with only 4 gb of ram 🤣

@gatzon2757

4 жыл бұрын

iPhone 11

@asiessingh23

4 жыл бұрын

True

@barnacles1352

4 жыл бұрын

Gatzon all phone have that

@ganeshkendre300

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Chan -.-

@raynardthefox9723

3 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this on a mobicel Astro just google it you will see the pain

Hey! I see my video at 0:06 in the Google results!

@fousiafarid2435

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@randyvilleneuve6632

6 жыл бұрын

Computer Clan Wow

@randyvilleneuve6632

6 жыл бұрын

Computer Clan e

@Cheejyg

6 жыл бұрын

Computer-Chan

@fadeddavid100

6 жыл бұрын

Computer Clan true

64bit system on iPhone still with 1gb of ram lmao

@Cnupoc

8 жыл бұрын

+Kendall Handan exactly :) i hope one day the average "Apple fan" user finally realizes how his Gods were using his ignorance to make money....

@Szklana147

8 жыл бұрын

is it even possible? :D

@godofobelix

7 жыл бұрын

ikr

@MrGamer1992

7 жыл бұрын

Is there even ANYTHING you can do on a 64 bit processor iphone with 1 GB of ram that you can't do on a 32 bit 1 GB ram?

@kendall280z

7 жыл бұрын

Nah

1:32 "Hold on a second there, cool your rainbows my pony friend" - Linus, 2014

@rayy241

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment right here

@imaginaoYouTubesoquecomarrobas

3 жыл бұрын

Thx

@Bronyboiiiii

3 жыл бұрын

I think this was a My Little Pony innuendo. Maybe he is a Brony.

This video was uploaded 6 years ago KZread: we should recommend this in 2020

@BradElliot

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes the great algorithm

@benjamin_luscombe

3 жыл бұрын

2021 for me XD

@onee1847

3 жыл бұрын

You should stfu

@franzferdinand5150

3 жыл бұрын

@@onee1847 So should your organs

@shihaabm1434

3 жыл бұрын

@@onee1847 why don't you?

But... how can there be 16 billion GB of RAM when there are only 7 million GB of RAM on Earth? (I know, this comment is very, VERY original)

@EricssonXL

8 жыл бұрын

+Vincent Pihlblad its easier to say 16 exabytes of ram

@vinofiloblado1618

8 жыл бұрын

EricssonXL Guess so, but I wasn't aware of that prefix. ;)

@EricssonXL

8 жыл бұрын

Vincent Pihlblad not a lot of people are

@RaviKumar-ro1fx

8 жыл бұрын

+Vincent Pihlblad Dude Max amount of RAM doest mean that you need to install 16 exabytes of RAM. it mean that You can add more then 4 GB of RAM , if you need soo.

@vinofiloblado1618

8 жыл бұрын

Ravi Kumar Nah, it's chill mate. I have two hundred terabytes of RAM and my computer seems to be doing just fine. It's sometimes a bit slow when rendering, so I'm thinking of buying one hundred terabytes more - for just 10 000 $ - from this guy in an abandonded warehouse in Detroit.

"briing on tha bits wheres my 128 bit" killed me

@jamiekeenan-devargas7234

6 жыл бұрын

Logan Jones ME TOO

32 or 64 bit is the size of the internal registers, which get processed at every instruction and not the size of the address bus nor the external data bus. 64 bit definitely offers more processing power, also depending on the instructions the processor offers, the kind of task and how the software is optimized for it.

@charankoppineni4498

11 ай бұрын

thank you

This gets recommended to me as the 64 bit-32 bit-16 bit-8 bit-4 bit-2 bit-1 bit- 0.5 Bit meme is popular.

Pretty bullshit move by apple. stays at 1GB ram yet boasts about having 64bit...Thats like saying "HEY GUYS! I GOT A HUGE ASS SWIMMING POOL!, BUT I CAN ONLY AFFORD ONE LITRE OF WATER!!!!!"

@ATLEAGLE579

9 жыл бұрын

lolololol now i will use this for my co worker :P

@zeyadbawazeer3870

7 жыл бұрын

Uncrowned and yet iPhones still outperform all other smartphones when it comes to ram

@frazarshad5821

7 жыл бұрын

by like 0.2 seconds or something. doesnt make that much of a difference

@zeyadbawazeer3870

7 жыл бұрын

It's not about how big RAM, it's about how the phone makes the best use out of it. Phones like the oneplus have 6 GB of RAM yet the can't beet and iPhone 6s with 2 GB of RAM.

@averagegeek3957

7 жыл бұрын

+Zeyad Bawazeer You obivously never had to deal with high poly graphics. Your shitty 2 GB's of RAM have to be shared with the GPU. Android needs less than 1 GB when no apps are running. The remaining 5 GB (not exactly 5 GB, the memory split is often hard programmed into the SoC) can be utilized for high quality textures.

You're too fucking funny Linus, it's insane, you fucking crack me up everytime :D Love the show dude, been a watcher for years now.

@techquickie

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

@scinorandex

9 жыл бұрын

***** Html doesn't work because of less than tricks

@scinorandex

9 жыл бұрын

Ok good to know

@CreeperFino

8 жыл бұрын

You From The Future Ikr!

@lunalulietuva8456

8 жыл бұрын

Gay

Basically 64-bit > 32-bit

@andy56duky

5 жыл бұрын

Not always. Some programs won't even work on 64 bit OS.

@alibarznji2000

5 жыл бұрын

@@DJ_Shmee nope

@DJ_Shmee

5 жыл бұрын

@@alibarznji2000 doesn't matter anymore I already upgraded to Windows 10 x64 and steam wont support Vista anymore ):

@alibarznji2000

5 жыл бұрын

@@DJ_Shmee that´s right

@foreignkeys3980

5 жыл бұрын

@@DJ_Shmee so i can use a ddr3 or ddr4 system with a hexa core i7 and 32gb of ram on the 64 bit version of windows xp? I want that

Imagine someone from future sees this and laughing in 128bit

1:20 That's what Linus' real voice when he runs out of helium.

Fuck'n Linus, gotta love him!

@Tech4YourNeeds

9 жыл бұрын

Yes that was a good video. He is the man when it comes to computer in explaining things.

@ChrisDruif

9 жыл бұрын

I'll watch it tomorrow but Linus' tech quickies are great!

@RomieJayEqueGIpsyche

9 жыл бұрын

your face is so familiar man. your'e from XDA?

@JaredBusch

9 жыл бұрын

Romie Jay Eque Lol yup =)

@RomieJayEqueGIpsyche

9 жыл бұрын

***** yes i remember i watched a video of you about Xposed Framework XD

Man! This channel is very informative. Been watching more than 10 vidoes straight. Hope to watch more in the future!

2:49 Windows 11: "Are you challenging me?"

@cua2279

2 жыл бұрын

mhm

Sorry pal, but you misunderstand completely the concept of 32 bit or 64 bit for a microprocessor. When we talk about 32 bit x 64 bit we are talking about the size of the data bus not the size of the address bus. If we were talking about the size of the address bus your video would be correct because more bits in the address bus means more addressable memory. But when we talk about the size of the data bus we are really talking about the amount or the size of information which the microprocessor could work within a single unit of time. In theory more information being processed at the same time could mean more processing power but only if you take advantage of that extra processing power and only if you really need too. For example text information are stored usually using only 8 bits or 16 bits so a 64 bits processor wont offer much advantage over a 32 bits processor for text processing. For Audio processing, video processing and 3D Graphics were the processor must deal with big numbers at highest speed possible a 64 bits processor could offer a really big speed increase but only if the program is running 64 bit code and is optimized to work with 64 bits. If you have a 64 bits processor running a 32 bits video player for example probably you won´t get any increment in speed at all. In general it is a good idea to upgrade to 64 bits cellphone or computer because the microprocessor manufactures are reaching the maximum speed limit in terms of clock speed (specified in Giga Hertz GHz) so the only way to keep increasing processing speed is by growing the data bus size and the number of processors in the same chip. So eventually the software companies will follow the silicon chip manufactures and will create software optimized for 64 bits microprocessors but it only will happen if there is users with 64 bits gear to use that software.

@tobalnell1983

9 жыл бұрын

you are right. linus gets this stuff wrong quite frequently.

@FuriousDesignHQ

9 жыл бұрын

tobalnell1983 never noticed that :/. Than I probably have alot of information's that is not right...

@PvblivsAelivs

9 жыл бұрын

Eric Slattery Well, in fairness, the "big thing" about 64-bit processors is the addressing. But they only have 56 bits worth of addressing, and it still requires PAE, Yes, they do have a 64-bit data bus and 64-bit registers. But, even in "long mode," it requires a special prefix to access the registers as 64-bit. Data operations still default to 32-bit.

@PvblivsAelivs

9 жыл бұрын

Eric Slattery I don't think assembly language is that bad. It is, admittedly, tedious to do anything useful in it. (Disclaimer: In my early days, I did not actually have access to an assembler. I used a chart of opcodes.) Of course, I didn't have some lecturer teaching it to me. I learned it from books.

@niceguysfly

9 жыл бұрын

I'm not gonna read what you just wrote, because i actually have a life, and i don't have time for that, therefor i cannot say you are wrong, or correct you. I only read the first line where you say he's wrong. Once again, i didn't read yours, you might be right, Linus might be wrong, BUT. Linus does know what he's talking about, he wouldn't make a video about this if he didn't know. Not flaming, just saying, i haven't encountered a situation so far where he has said something wrong, and I've watched like 90% of his videos.

I downloaded 16 Billion Gb of RAM, thank God I have a 64bit processor. Now my PC is gonna be super fast.

@overwatch7705

5 жыл бұрын

Jhustin Malanyaon Cordova It’s a joke, sir.

@flickgamehes1e591

5 жыл бұрын

Over Watch He's joking,sir.

@chris_hawk

5 жыл бұрын

Now you need a video card with 8 billion gb of video memory and a nuclear power plant as a power supply. Just don’t overclock my friend...

@mjustbenn2988

4 жыл бұрын

@@chris_hawk imagine the mobos size for 16billion gigs of ram

@ruffydoge5783

4 жыл бұрын

*single handedly increase the average global temp by 1 degree C or kelvin

And here we are in 2020 when even 16gb memory is a minimum recommendation

Awesome explanation, and as a software developer who has written a bit of prototype kernel code (assembly), I don't say that lightly. 😀 Kudos e.g. for mentioning PAE (Physical Address Extensions, introduced with the Pentium Pro, which allowed 32-bit processors to address up to 64GB RAM), and that most of the early performance gains were more from the increased number of general-purpose registers etc. than actual 64-bit computations. I have no corrections per se, but the 16 billion gigabytes figure at least does not apply to current desktop or server processors and may be slightly misleading. Current x86-64 (originally AMD64) processors - this hasn't changed since 2014 - only have 48 address lanes, and can therefore only address a "measly" 256 terabytes of RAM. The hard limit for future x86-64 processors - without introducing a new page table layout, that is - is 52 address lanes or 4 petabytes of RAM.

And now we're in 2016 with the OnePlus 3 and six gigabytes of ram...

@tarik6895

7 жыл бұрын

Gabe Miller i have dual core 1.8 128mb gpu 4 gb ram

@DUBUND3AD

7 жыл бұрын

Nah man, 2017

@ShayanKhanbazzinga

7 жыл бұрын

+xx_ProQuickscoper-notIluminati-DewrudeDankstorm_xx I have s1 with froyo 2.2. Maybe I should keep it so that it comes handy in case they open a phone Museam.

@yumishindou5705

7 жыл бұрын

W San ok why is there a michael luzzi comment here? btw he was born yesterday

@orionarclight

6 жыл бұрын

Asus was the first to 4GB RAM phone Asus was the first to 8GB RAM phone

16 BILLION GIGABYTES OF RAM! MWAHAHAHA I lol'd so hard.

@jack25877

8 жыл бұрын

maybe in 150 years.

@yaboiwarp

8 жыл бұрын

+Ollie Thornton 1500 more specifically.

@SalveMonesvol

8 жыл бұрын

+skred8 more like 60 to 75 years.

@whatislife6101

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Rowlands 32 bit OS? max ram 4gb 64 bit? 16 BILLION GB RAM MAX M8 Well that escalated quickly

@krenzzie7290

6 жыл бұрын

Mam

Now in the world of 2019 we have the Huawei P30 Pro with 8GB of RAM and Samsung Fold with 12GB of RAM "When we will have applications that use 4GB of RAM or more"

@max-dy3vs

4 жыл бұрын

The Samsung Galaxy S10 and OnePlus 7 Pro both have 12 GB of RAM and 1 TB of memory.

@DacLMK

4 жыл бұрын

@Gökay Uğurlu *Ultra

@karan31qq

3 жыл бұрын

Chrome- hold muh biscuits

@reclaimer0018

3 жыл бұрын

@@max-dy3vs and the iphone 11 has only 4GB pf RAM. Wow

@max-dy3vs

3 жыл бұрын

@@reclaimer0018 The Pro variants too. But it works pretty well for most applications due to good optimization.

u tell simple things in funny way. it makes ur video very interesting keep working good luck

I wonder what Linus is like off camera... Completely off topic, but I wanna know.

@AlValentyn

9 жыл бұрын

I think he had this one in his hands during the beginning of the WAN Show> ttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HR684W6/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00HR684W6&linkCode=as2&tag=n19h7m4r3-21

@IZylusI

9 жыл бұрын

Al Valentyn I meant "I wonder what his personality is, off camera" I didn't really mean what cameras he uses or something

@AlValentyn

9 жыл бұрын

MiniNinjia Ah sorry, completely misunderstood. Darn english! I think he might still be a rather nice person, I hope. :P

@cptcoldandcolder

9 жыл бұрын

i guess geeky still :P

@GranVlog

9 жыл бұрын

prob walking around in socks and sandals :D

I feel like each video I watch from these guys raises my iq a few points. Too bad feelings aren't reality.

@frostchain2362

7 жыл бұрын

IQ maybe not, but general knowledge yes. There's really not downside to having more knowledge about any topic.

@loudebloude41

7 жыл бұрын

feelings are reality

@loudebloude41

7 жыл бұрын

dont be stupid

@zakattak47

7 жыл бұрын

Feelings are our attempt at reacting to our 'perceived' reality.

@loudebloude41

7 жыл бұрын

zakattak47 wtf are you fucking serious?

SIXTYfOur bits ... thirtyTWO bits ... SixTEen bits ... eiGht BIts ... four bits ... Two bits...

@jamespickell3915

3 жыл бұрын

ONE BIT! HALF BIT! QUARTER BIT!

@n-a-t-e

3 жыл бұрын

THE WRIST GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME!!!

@kamehame69

3 жыл бұрын

It's getting out of hand as of this time

@xell2371

3 жыл бұрын

the wrist game... quarter bit...half bit...one bit...two bits...eight bits...sixteen bits...32 bits...64 bits...128 BITS!

@happywojak

3 жыл бұрын

@@xell2371 256 Bits

I love your comments talk in technology to make things sound simple every one else complicates the subjects

This guy isn't boring at all.... Subbed

@barnacles1352

4 жыл бұрын

damn stuck he has his own channel called linus tech tips

"Briingg onn the bits ,wheres my 128 bit?!?" xD

1:49 nice high pitched linus

@rautamiekka

6 жыл бұрын

Musket Gaming Low-pitched actually.

I was trying to determine whether I should start compiling my applications as x64! Cheers ma dude.

Informative video. I know it's hard to compare speeds of various tasks between the two, but a couple of examples would have been instructive. I do have one example, though, that I found out by doing a comparison on my computer (a recent Alienware model) Adobe Premiere Elements 9 32-bit vs. Premiere 15 64-bit to produce a half-hour AVCHD file. Same hardware, same movie, but the former took around four hours to encode and the latter almost exactly ten minutes. The difference is so stark for this particular application that I'm still slightly stunned. There is the possibility that I'm under an illusion that I'm comparing apples to apples, so I welcome others' thoughts.

It's not only about more memory, the procesors in 64 bits can imput 1 more code line per command, and that's why programs are different in 32 and 64 bits.

Aside from the accuracy and general quality of the video (which were excellent as usual), you even got a good laugh out of me at that "16 billions GBs of RAM". Thanks :D

Thanks for the video. It's interesting, informative and funny. Well done, sir.

*Makes a phone with a 64-bit so it can handle 16,000,000,000GB* *Keeps with 1GB for two more years* -Apple.

@fitrox4921

4 жыл бұрын

@erik masterchef so what?

@sogerc1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Apple's only vantage: MARKETING POWAH !!!

i dont know why would anyone still use 32bit so old

@deafyboy86

9 жыл бұрын

Literally, almost all applications run in 32 bit mode ...

@userise222

9 жыл бұрын

Maybe they don't have 4 GB or more ram. Maybe they don't know much about computers/electronics. Maybe they just have better programs on 32 bit.

@xP3t3

9 жыл бұрын

deafyboy86 Even Borderlands 2, a game that has pretty good graphics overall, is only 32-bit

@jonoc5

9 жыл бұрын

you're showing your ignorance here, 32bit apps are still integral to tonnes of companies.

@JamesAJ

9 жыл бұрын

Snowerty WHAT!?!? This is an OUTRAGE! seriously, BL2 runs in 32bit?

It is not only a matter of size of RAM you can access but also of speed of floating point operation. I have seen factor 100 improvement between 32 and 64 bit application for matrix inversion operations.

Well, it does have one other performance increasing part, using longs as their native if you work with big numbers. And also, you get int128_t using the same trick as longs in 32bit does (and fancy 256bit stuff using AVX). Allowing you to work with even bigger numberes without the need to use any fancy big number libraries. A major drawback, 64bit pointers take up twice the amount of ram. Which is why many applications that is pointer heavy tend to increase their memory usage by 50-80%. Hench why we are stuck with many low memory usings applications still being complied in 32bit mode.

16 BILION GIGS OF RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@christopherli5828

9 жыл бұрын

NOt ENUF NEEd MORE

@ericv2254

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah thats some serious power that I could use

@aperson4075

8 жыл бұрын

1mill copy of CS:GO Wow...

@fr0zeNid

8 жыл бұрын

Christian Lei google chrome be like

@harryz567

8 жыл бұрын

hassanReal LEL I COOD DOO LOTS OF TNTT ON MYNCRAFD

16 BILLION GIGABYTES OF RAM HUAHAHAHAA xD Bring On The Bit !!

@sand5461

7 жыл бұрын

you ONLY have 16 billion GB of ram? I have 40 billion GB

@cycrothelargeplanet

3 жыл бұрын

@@sand5461 40 zettabytes of RAM? Haha I have 500 brontobyte of ram

@michaeljunction4088

3 жыл бұрын

@@cycrothelargeplanet Man thats pathetic, i have 16MB of SSD and 2048 Yottabytes of RAM

@cycrothelargeplanet

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljunction4088 that's 2 brontobytes

@michaeljunction4088

3 жыл бұрын

@@cycrothelargeplanet sh- wait what, i literally researched on google and 8 sources said Yotta is the biggest

Amazing guy, extraordinary explanation! 😁 +1 subscriber.

Even as a tech person, this 64 vs 32 has been bothering me for a while. Thanks for breaking it down!!

Why do they upload this video in 4k? Who watches that? Seriously?

@18aidanme

9 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Cardenas Who the fuck needs 4k on their phone? a 1080p phone would probably have a 300< PPI.

@woollerland

9 жыл бұрын

Less compression, In gameplay videos atleast, the videos are less pixelated at the 4k mode than at 1080p unless youtube changed it recently :/

@davidflores909

9 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Cardenas You might also want to have at least 6 mbps of bandwidth if you live alone if not probably twice as that.

@davidflores909

9 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Cardenas​ yeah? I was just clarifying that if you or anyone else is going to watch videos in 4k, it will be needed more than just the right hardware but also a high speed bandwidth.

@aushimdas87

9 жыл бұрын

I'm watching the video in 4K, and probably a thousand more people could be watching it at 4K.

Talking as a programmer, there is a benefit which I'm surprised you didn't mention. 64-bit processors can read 8 bytes each instruction and 32-bit only 4, which is hugely beneficial for 64-bit data types used in data processing of huge numbers or high resolution decimals.

@MrAxnavara

6 ай бұрын

surprised you were ignored am a fellow programmer well ex one but knew this all along coding for 32 bit is only redundancy while 64 bit is more free

Watching this in 2022 with a 12 gig ram phone and a 64 bit processor

Very good! Easy explanation ;) Fun too.....Go Ahead

Someone please make 1:28 - 1:30 A MEME

@recess7

4 жыл бұрын

Here I am in 2020 and I don't see that meme yet.

@cherrypepsi2815

3 жыл бұрын

@@crazytigerspy9420 kinda

@itsmanasK

3 жыл бұрын

Simple Answer My Friend: DIY :) (After 4 Years)

Is there more to it than that? Why did Nintendo go with a 64-bit CPU if it went nowhere near that amount of RAM?

@ZeldagigafanMatthew

9 жыл бұрын

The hype train over the number of bits was still in full force back then. But I think it also reduced the threat of emulators, but then again, the N64 and your typical PC (even back in the mid to late 90s) were still fundamentally different. Even the GameCube, Wii, PS3, and 360 were far closer to Macs (before the switch to Intel) because they were using IBM made PowerPC processors.

@darkhawk1979

9 жыл бұрын

***** I think the 64-bit CPU could have been a legacy of the Silicon Graphics computers it was based on. Yeah I could Google it but CBF!

@Nimagia

9 жыл бұрын

darkhawk1979 Exactly, why does the Iphone have a 64-bit CPU when it only has 1GB of RAM? lel, apple makes me laugh.

@manictiger

9 жыл бұрын

darkhawk1979 Probably because most developers are using 64-bit systems, now. I think 32-bit is completely obsolete. My OS takes up about a gig just idling. Most browsers take up about 300-700 megs, depending on varying factors. A game takes up around 1.5gb. A modded game takes up to 3gb. If I want to watch KZread vids on one monitor while playing modded Mount and Blade: Warband (with 64-bit .exe hotfix) on another-- My 6gb triple-channel system barely handles that. A 3.2gb system would just flat out suck running that.

@TomasRay

9 жыл бұрын

manictiger You,Sir, Are an idiot. (Please quit writing in IT topics in general)

Just got an ad staring linus on a video staring linus. The planets have aligned

Thanks for recommending me 5 years later

@badreddinewafi8424

2 жыл бұрын

6 now it's 7

I thought this was going to be some fancy behind the scenes magic that you don't see, because that's what it sounded like in the WAN show, not just "more RAM".

Sure for now saying that a phone has a 64-bit processor is just a selling point, but it makes for a more seamless transition in the future. In Apple's case, once mobile application require 4+ GB of RAM, they're already going to be a few generations in and app developers will already have compatible apps. Pretty forward thinking if you ask me.

@Rickity2345

9 жыл бұрын

Yes in a 100 years when phone applications finally require more than 1gig of ram well be ready.

@AlexanderPavel

9 жыл бұрын

***** www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1404_x64&num=1 According to this test (which was on a system with 4GB of RAM) 64-bit can increase speed quite a bit, but only in a couple things like openssl and disk transaction. Graphics were the same, CPU intensive stuff was generally faster on 64-bit with the notable exception of Apache. The reason is that x86_64 has twice as many general purpose registers and they're twice as large, so it can be significantly faster for some workloads. So there is some truth to 64-bit being faster, but until we get to 4GB I don't think it'll be too useful.

@thorerik

9 жыл бұрын

Alexander Pavel Essentially what I wrote just before you, though mine was more technical about it :)

@TalesOfWar

9 жыл бұрын

***** Most software on Windows is still 32bit because Microsoft still support 32bit so the developers don't see the point improving things. It's just laziness more than anything. The simple fact a 32bit version of Windows is still being developed and released is baffling to me, they should have killed that shit years ago when Vista launched. It was the perfect opportunity to properly future proof the platform.

@Rickity2345

9 жыл бұрын

TalesOfWar maybe with windows 25

64 bits 32 bits 16 bits 8 bit 4 bit 2 bit 1 bit l bit aaaaa

16 bits. 8 bits. 4 bits. 2 bits! 1 bit! Half bit! Quarter bit! Ttthhhheeee wwwrrriiisssttt gggaaammmeee!!!!!!!!!!

i stil dont understand lmao

@sante8281

7 жыл бұрын

lmao same

@whatarewedoing0

7 жыл бұрын

a 32 bit computer can only handle information that can be represented by a combination of 32, 1s or 0s,. a 62 bit can handle info that would need more either 1s or 0s than 32. 64 in fact, so basically the higher the bit the more complex info that the computer can handle.

@samtheexplorer4737

7 жыл бұрын

***** AHHHH thanks

@stigrabbid589

7 жыл бұрын

+mauricious777 Actually 64bit Does have an advantage. 32bit clocks (which all run using some variation or knock off of Unix Time calculation) will reset sometime in the 2020s like the Y2K bug back in 2000 did for 16bit computers. 64 bit clocks will not reset for thousands of years.

@bostash8442

5 жыл бұрын

Gareth Keenan That's only for phones everyone

I'm surprised you did not mention the Y2038 problem Linus. Yes I know it's still a long way to go, but it is a very valid reason to migrate to 64 bit architecture.

@thegroupofreptiles6823

5 ай бұрын

I'm very late but it can be fixed by just changing the Unix time counter to use 2 32bit counters instead of one

i love your taking style 😂

LOL nice expression at 1:18

I always learn something from these videos, outstanding as always Linus!

I was watching 64bit 32bit 16bit 8bit 4bit 2bit 1bit meme and i got this recommendation

"Up to 16 billion gigabytes of RAM. wahaahah!" Yep, we need about that to run our favourite Java programs.

@groszak1

3 жыл бұрын

ah yes, a program that allocates as many bytes as there are 64-bit integers

@grimm5751

3 жыл бұрын

Need that for electron apps too, can't forget our favourite web browsers like discord and vscode.

The bit width of a processor is not only (usually) translated to the address bus, it's also the width of internal CPU registers and, together with it, the operations on the registers. As a simple example, in C/C++ the "long long int" type (I know, it sounds more like the beginning of a fairy tale) is 64 bits, no matter what target platform you compile the code to. If the target is 32 bits, an operation over the variable has to be done in parts in machine code, while in 64 bits it can be done with a single operation.

It is not just about memory, it allows a CPU to deal with more bits of any given time, if you remember 8bit machines you needed quite a bit of instructions to deal with integers that needed to be more than 255 unsigned, when 16bits came along it let you do away with the amount of instructions needed and that meant clock cycles, also they were clocked higher so even more gain in performance, then 32bit came and things really moved on now 64bit gives us even more, face recognition and other stuf, multiple integer calculations in one instruction, it will be sometime before 128bit or 256bit is needed for the consumer market so they will remain as they are at the moment. Main reasons for 64bit is to process more bits at any given time just like always, and a CPU that is 64bit may not mean it's address bus is 64bit, just remember the 6502, the Z80 that was a 8bit cpu but its address bus was 16bit 64K max.

@tiagobrito3785

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah they tried to explain 64bit thing, but they didnt understand it very well

@MrGamer1992

7 жыл бұрын

Richie Don't 128 and 256 exist in encryption to protect people from card theft when buying things online?

literally all flagships are 64 bit and supported here in 2018

KZread has recommended me again this video. Well, I've learned some computer engineering, and I was studying the Intel manual of Intel Architectures of 32 and 64 bits... And believe me. It's HELL. It's just not that simple. The implementation at scary low levels is very complex. Though I'm beginning to understand it better.

Great explanation. Thank you.

'16 BEILLION GEIGERBAITES OF RAM MUHAHAHAHA' linus 2015

@coreypine9514

4 жыл бұрын

14

64~bits 32~bits 16 bits 8Bits 4BITS 2BITS! 1BITCS!!! HALF!BITS! Q!U!A!T!E!R BITS

It's not (only) about the addressing. It's about the ALU and faster processing of larger values. If it where only about addressing memory they could have just "add more bits" to the AGU. See for any easy the example the 6502 ;-)

About to skip the ad until I noticed linus was in there

This pop up on my recommendations because of the new 64, 32, 16 etc bit meme

But damn apple does the right thing slowly moving over to 64-bit. its gonna be a perfectly smooth transition for iOS users. When i get my first 64bit android phone there'll probably be no support for 64bit apps.

@TalesOfWar

9 жыл бұрын

Just like Windows. There's hardly any 64bit software outside of pro content creation type stuff, yet on the Mac damn near everything is 64bit. The only 32bit apps on any of my Macs are... Adobe and Microsoft made.

@TalesOfWar

9 жыл бұрын

Vaati Reborn Yes, because the benefits are more than just addressing more memory. It means you can dump old legacy crap from your code and use the cleaner, more streamlined x64 code. x86 is still full of crap from the 16bit era. Hell, stuff from 8bit!

@TalesOfWar

9 жыл бұрын

Vaati Reborn Running stuff like Photoshop on a 32bit system is an extremely frustrating situation. Especially if you're working with things like RAW files. Constant "out of memory" warnings.

@zeroangelmk1

9 жыл бұрын

TalesOfWar Not only that, but a few 64-bit programs are designed to take advantage of 64-bit processing. Photoshop is an example of that, as are many 3D rendering (for films/animations) and other professional multimedia production programs. Normal 64-bit desktop programs often don't take advantage of 64-bit and run just as fast as their 32-bit counterparts. The downside to 64-bit processing is that a 64-bit OS will consume at least 50% more RAM (at startup) than a 32-bit OS would. So I wouldnt put a 64-bit OS on a low to midrange smartphone just yet. In fact, even high-end smartphones in the near future should just be able to get by with PAE (a 32-bit processor function that lets it address more than 4GB of memory).

@StarcraftDave

9 жыл бұрын

Android (and iOS for that matter) applications run on a runtime, not directly on the hardware, so there will be no transition.

your vocals are good in this vid than other vids ; )

I remember getting my first 64 bit build the year they came out, and the first 64 bit windows. So many blue screens. It was a mess. The drivers were terrible.

@Adkatka

3 жыл бұрын

In 2001?

Back when Linus' 4 minute videos had an almost 1 minute Sponsor segue

"Maybe we will need more than 4gb eventually" Anything in 2022: you need a minimum of 16gb

@joelthepig2168

Жыл бұрын

I know this is probably a joke but not even Windows 11 needs more than 4gb of ram

@StormDragon_64

Жыл бұрын

@@joelthepig2168 I have windows 10 and 2.1 gb of ram is automatically allocated to windows, and then windows uses half of the 6 gb of ram I have left, which means it uses 5gb without opening any programs (and probably more if I didn't disable things like onedrive)

We need a remake of this.

For me the video started with a Linus ad. It was funny

Good to know!

"Bring on the bits!!! Where's my 128-bit??" I laughed hard with this XD

There's also how large the numbers you are handling. Most numbers we use in programs usually don't go above 32 bits, which is around 2-4 billion. This is one of the reasons why 32-bit to 64-bit sometimes didn't see an improvement in a lot of cases. x64 has a huge benefit: x64 has more CPU registers and guaranteed SSE2. x86 has a very small amount of registers and no SIMD requirement. All x64 CPUs have at least SSE2. Also, the OS on a 64-bit OS can be loaded into a separate space from the 32-bit RAM available to the program. 32-bit programs can have more RAM available to them. Again, most consumers won't notice a difference, but you might in an office environment. Some programs I use just straight-out eat 2 gigs of RAM, and it indeed sucks However, graphics cards are starting to use a LOT of RAM. It's getting rarer that a GPU uses less than 1-2 gigs of RAM. Mine has 4 gigs, and that's maybe about average. Some people say the GPU takes away from the address poll, others say it only take a specified chunk. I would love to see a video on if today's 2-6 GB graphics cards on 32-bit system actually affects the RAM pool

Ah, the good old days.

LMAO "WHERES MY 128 BIT" I LAUGHED SO HARD

What I don't quite understand is why 64-bit and not 128-bit? Yeah thinking about the memory limitations right now is ridiculous, but so was 4gb many many years ago What are the 'disadvantages' of going to say 128-bit or 256-bit CPU architecture? Since it requires an architectural redesign, we're going to have to go through that process when we do start getting close to 64-bit limitations. It's also not just memory, it affects integers and float values. You get rounding errors or float errors, and you can only count so high. You can't eliminate this entirely but you can greatly improve upon it with a higher bit count There's also the possibility for a massive shift in the consumer market. 16 billion GB of RAM seems totally absurd for an individual computer even looking ahead 30 years. But that may not be the market, it could be that computing power shifts away from individual PC's into centralized mainframes that can feed thousands/millions of individual user sessions at once and that ends up being much better than trying to cram huge power into every single device individually. Huge shared resource data centers essentially. If you need to effectively serve 300,000 discrete sessions in a combined server, you'll reach the memory limit at just 61.5TB of RAM per session which isn't so absurd projected forward 30 years What are the disadvantages to going to 128-bit now? Is it more complicated to do? more expensive? are calculations actually slower? or is it just not essential right now therefore make it a future people problem? (hello IPv4, yeah the transition off that has been totally smooth and seamless.....)

@albertoedgar831

Жыл бұрын

because its unnecessary

The Bites and Bytes do appetite. I think it wil go faster and faster in the future. Thanks and kind regards.

Please differentiate between address bus width and data bus width they may on magnitude be the same. The original 8 bit CPUs had 8 bit data buses but 16 bit address buses, so the width of the data bus did not define the memory range that could be addressed.

1:32 "Cool your rainbows my pony friend" Brony reference much? /)

@lokiblanding782

6 жыл бұрын

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@bluewhirl4452

6 жыл бұрын

ok glad to know I wasn't the only one...

@PeppermintSwirl

6 жыл бұрын

Ayyyyyy

@yuhyuh5674

6 жыл бұрын

Oh boy

@Shadowtrot

6 жыл бұрын

:thonk: /)

1:19 nuff said

@TheBrokenCable156

8 жыл бұрын

Agree puu.sh/mIZCo.png

Well this aged well... here we are, 2 years after MS announced that they will stop releasing 32-bit builds. And it has been a very long time for me at least to see a 32-bit windows or linux still in use in the wild (appart from embedded systems).

Once I selected this video, I just saw a Linus ad. A Linus ad on a Linus video.