32 Bit Floating Point Explained - Sound Speeds

Since the Zoom F6 was first showcased at NAB 2019, the world has been raving about 32 Bit Floating Point Recording. Truth be known, it's been around for years before that and has been used in post mastering for about as long. Understandably you want to record the best audio possible so shouldn't that include recording in 32 bit floating point? You may think bigger is better but it very well could make your life more difficult if you do. Not just because it means recording file sizes 1/3 larger but because it could bring with it more quantization errors and high noise floors. Should you record in 32 bit float? In this video I'll explain 32 Bit Floating Point so that you can make the determination for yourself.
Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:42 Make The Biggest Number
01:56 Signal To Noise Ratio and Dynamic Range
03:10 How Sound Is Recorded
06:00 Understanding Binary
06:30 Bit Depth
07:21 Sample Rate
08:54 32 Bit Floating Binary Breakdown
12:12 Digital Sound Waves, Stair Steps?
13:11 Analog Digital Converters
15:01 The Reality of ADC Conversion
16:11 Should You Always Use 32 Bit?
17:31 When You Should Definitely Use 32 Bit Float
18:11 Outro
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  • @JulianKrause
    @JulianKrause3 жыл бұрын

    Holy **** how long did you take to edit and animate the video? That's a crazy amount of info in that video. Big 👍

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Julian. This video took me about 12-15 hours in research (months ago) and in writing the VO copy and over 30 hours in editing alone. Thanks Julian.

  • @rars0n

    @rars0n

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your recent video about utilizing gain was one of the best videos I've ever watched about audio and I'd be lying if I said I didn't learn something.

  • @rars0n

    @rars0n

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds Likewise, with this video! Thanks for your hard work!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. :-) Thank you for watching too!

  • @jacobchmielowiec7199

    @jacobchmielowiec7199

    3 жыл бұрын

    1/0 :)

  • @michaeldelacruz6370
    @michaeldelacruz6370 Жыл бұрын

    Edit: Great video man! Back to the original comment: 32 bit float. It's great for any high action and high dynamic sound mixer jobs where you need to be recording but also boom operating at the same time. You can record hands off from the input gain and then convert the 32-bit floats into 24 bit before you deliver the sound because if not the film editor people will be nagging cause they don't know how to convert a 32 bit float to a 24 bit. I wish I had a 32-bit float recorder that way I could use it in these types of situations.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @rars0n
    @rars0n3 жыл бұрын

    When I initially heard about 32-bit float, the more I heard about it, the more I wanted an interface capable of it. But slowly I began to realize that I probably didn't need it. You did a great job of articulating how it works, and how, yes, I really don't need it for my little home recordings. I'm not recording gunshots or anything like that. And honestly, if I'm capturing gunshots on a recording then I have much more serious problems than bit depth or noise floor.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    And I even did a video about recording great gunfire SFX in 24 bit fixed. :-) Thanks for watching.

  • @anyuisbjoern
    @anyuisbjoern3 жыл бұрын

    I really love that your videos are always full of knowledge and straight to the paint!!!!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's my goal. Thank you. :-)

  • @Laneth
    @Laneth8 ай бұрын

    Told you I'd come watch the 32-bit video! Also holy crap, this is incredible! Since Bit Depth & Sample Rate are such fundamental concepts to the voice actors I aid in teaching a crash course in audio post production to, we dedicate a whole lesson to explaining it as simply as possible and then provide examples of different depths and rates, etc. But for those wanting to learn more about this, I am scrapping my notes that I've written over time and pointing them directly to this video! I cannot thank you enough mate, seriously.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    8 ай бұрын

    Sure thing! Thanks for taking the time to watch.

  • @DammaChakku
    @DammaChakku3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video. Lots of information. Some may need to listen few times to grab all the information. Thank you for your time and effort put into this video. You deserve better ratings.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll get there. Thank you for watching.

  • @billy2896
    @billy289611 ай бұрын

    THIS VIDEO WAS SO GOOD!!! :D please make more.... i love how much detail you add to your content

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you. 😊 Thanks for watching.

  • @MichaelWeizenfeld
    @MichaelWeizenfeld Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Great thanks!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure thing. Thanks for watching Michael.

  • @jimstouder5538
    @jimstouder55383 жыл бұрын

    Great video! You did a very good job of describing the differences of 24 bit and floating 32 bit. What I appreciate most about your videos is your philosophy that differences in technology does not make one ‘better’ than the other. You view each as a unique ‘tool’ that is best suited in different situations.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and thank you for watching.

  • @donwells8465
    @donwells84652 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Don.

  • @jdstewart9689
    @jdstewart9689 Жыл бұрын

    excellent man!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. 😎

  • @Bryster51
    @Bryster513 жыл бұрын

    Excellent! Well done!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @FlockofAngels
    @FlockofAngels2 жыл бұрын

    With most all audio interfaces I can hear the transients are not being recorded clearly, even at 24 bit 96khz. But when I use my RME Fireface II I can hear that it does a lot better job with the transients of my voice. Now, no one I have ever talked to can hear bad reproduction of transients other than myself. But I hear the bad transient reproduction with all of the major audio interface brands I have tried, other than RME. The transients are not peaking and distorting, it is like the interfaces simply cannot focus on the beginning of sounds and reproduce them right. Why am I the only one that can hear this? It is like a variable recording rate is needed, like as in film with large explosions and fast motion to throw more bits at the beginning of words. Would 32bit floating point throw more bits at the beginning of sounds and make them more focused and clear? All I ever hear about 32 bit is that it can record louder sounds, does it not also record finer steps, more densely packed bits, and would this not improve sound quality as well?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    As I said in the video, wider range of volume is all that it does. It doesn't increase the quality at all. The RME interface may to something to the sound that no other interface does. If I were you, I'd buy another one or two to have in case that one breaks.

  • @FlockofAngels

    @FlockofAngels

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds Thanks for your reply, it was very helpful! Great advice, the RME interfaces are very expensive but worth having two of. Your video sure is packed with a lot of great info! Thanks for your helpful channel! I am looking into buying a preamp for my microphone as well. Best to you! 👍

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching.

  • @MixYourWay
    @MixYourWay2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing. The best about your content is that we get to talk real data and facts on our breaks tehehehe Greetings and thank you for this, truly!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sure thing! Thank you for watching!

  • @leftcoastjack
    @leftcoastjack3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video and to @podcastage for sending me over. This was awesome.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for coming and checking out this video. I welcome you to stick around, watch other videos, subscribe - whatever you'd like to do. :-)

  • @terrydonoghue677
    @terrydonoghue6773 жыл бұрын

    Very informative - Thanks

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @voiceofmail
    @voiceofmail3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for answering this question when we asked on Bandrew's Podcast - you did a great explaination then and you have taken it even furter now - thanks sensei!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! This video took a while to create and release.

  • @voiceofmail

    @voiceofmail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds The effort is much appreciated!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then it's worth it. This video took me about 12 hours to research, write and revise the script, another 3 to shoot and about 25 hours to animate and edit.

  • @voiceofmail

    @voiceofmail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds I can relate to this - have spent weeks editing video for other channels - it is worth it when the work is appreciated for sure :)

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is. Especially since the video will be online "forever" to help people.

  • @jimimaze
    @jimimaze2 жыл бұрын

    That was fantastic. I’m still using 16b recordings and ultra happy with them. But now I know what floating means. Yay!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes indeed. Thanks for watching

  • @bobby1985
    @bobby19852 жыл бұрын

    That was a great class.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. :-)

  • @stanleyestrella8506
    @stanleyestrella8506 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation! I usually relate it to the screen resolution of video.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, or color depth, dynamic range, etc. Those all give visuals that help people understand.

  • @cutekittiekittie
    @cutekittiekittie Жыл бұрын

    yooooo this is so creative and cool!!!!!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you and thank you for watching.

  • @doublemm06
    @doublemm062 жыл бұрын

    I studied Computing in college. Wasn't very good but there are some important things I still remember. One of those things is information about how floating points work because I also studied Computer Systems Engineering, which is something I was actually good at. I came to the same conclusion about 32 bit float and the accuracy of the data. You basically confirmed my breakdown, thanks lol. Great and Informative video as usual.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Sigma. :-) Thanks for watching!

  • @nebroskitheraut6705
    @nebroskitheraut67052 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sure thing. Thanks for watching

  • @00solman
    @00solman3 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea! I'm glad I know now. Just in case it comes up in conversation.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    As the GI Joe say... Knowing is half the battle.

  • @kirkegodfrey414
    @kirkegodfrey4142 жыл бұрын

    Nice work. Thank you.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. :-)

  • @kirkegodfrey414

    @kirkegodfrey414

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds I posted this to a music production Dischord when 32 bit came up. SOLID INFO!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks you. Took a long time to research and produce.

  • @kirkegodfrey414

    @kirkegodfrey414

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds , and like a lot of seriously good work, may not gain the recognition thats perhaps deserved!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    In time, we'll see. :-) Thanks for watching.

  • @nickr5213
    @nickr52133 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video! Sorry it took me so long to say so. But, a great explanation of 32 bit floating point.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Nick.

  • @doip8208
    @doip82083 жыл бұрын

    very, very informative. now I know to keep my levels similar to what I would for a 24bit recording if I'm recording with 32float, since that will reduce unnecessary noise(even if it's not normally noticeable). that's probably a really good takeaway for field recording/sound design.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you feel the need to record in 32 bit float, yeah. Keep in kind the recording format matters less than what you're recording and setting it up correctly

  • @doip8208

    @doip8208

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds absolutely, shit in, shit out. when I'm working location sound gigs with my F6 I prefer to use 32bitfloat precisely because it allows me to focus on everything other than getting good levels, which isn't ideal, but it works well if you're the only sound professional on set. It would be ideal in every production to have the mighty 3 man sound team, but since most of the stuff I do is indy productions with tight budgets, I feel the need to focus on boom and lav placement above all else. in that regard, I feel like since I can't always get fantastic levels in the recorder I would rather trust a dual ADC system with 32bitfloat than with a (probably terrible sounding) digital limiter that's getting slammed because I can't get to adjusting it while I'm booming. good sound always starts at the source, the boom and the lavs :)

  • @8lec_R
    @8lec_R3 жыл бұрын

    I can't help but feel inadequate. I might need to rewatch this video 5 times or something to get it 🤣

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't stress over it. You're not alone. There's a lot of info in there to consume but it's not going anywhere. Feel free to watch it as many times as you'd like.

  • @KarlMeyer
    @KarlMeyer3 жыл бұрын

    Good video. I record things in 32 bit for future software and archival reasons. If anything this has made me apreciate 24 bit more.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I get that. Having the info is important though. Thanks for watching.

  • @KarlMeyer

    @KarlMeyer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sound Speeds Oh definitely! This video does a fantastic job explaining it all out. Well done!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. :-)

  • @MrTomservo85
    @MrTomservo853 ай бұрын

    This cannot possibly be an entry level explanation of bit depth. I'm not a dumb person, and I've been sound engineering for 25 years. There are words in this video that I'm not even sure are English

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 ай бұрын

    LOL.

  • @danwilms

    @danwilms

    3 ай бұрын

    I’ve been working in audio for a long time but also worked for Analog Devices for 37 years. So I’ve worked on A/D and D/A converters through several generations and architectures and his terminology is correct but he barely scratches the surface. The only things I disagree with is the not a stair step. It is a stair step sample to sample by definition. It’s why anti-aliasing filters are needed during the D/A conversion to prevent out of band energy from folding back into the passband as distortion. The other is the interchange of 6dB voltage with the equivalent 3dB power. It’s confusing when the two are not clearly delineated.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @VidMashUp
    @VidMashUp9 ай бұрын

    They're going to need a new warning sticker on boom poles.... "Warning: do not use boom pole outside during thunderstorm."

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    9 ай бұрын

    Some boom poles have stickers on them warning of electricity conductivity.

  • @MrKlorox
    @MrKlorox2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Very informative video! Is this your most indepth video on ADCs and what the layered 24-bit aspect means? Have any higher bit depth ADCs come about since this video was posted? I'm still trying to learn if people need to learn the details when saying floating-point field recording is possible.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    ADCs aren't that interesting so no need to elaborate. There's been no new innovations in ADCs since this video that I'm aware of or higher but rate ADCs without using multiple

  • @cuisined
    @cuisined3 жыл бұрын

    !Perfect

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! :-)

  • @garymurphy4165
    @garymurphy416510 ай бұрын

    thanks for simplifying, clear as mud.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    10 ай бұрын

    It's not an easy topic to grasp

  • @decibelpeak
    @decibelpeak2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Allen, I've been watching your videos for quite some time now. I absolutely love your channel and the diligent work you put in to deliver valuable and accurate information to us. So, here's my question... Which sources did you use to create this video? Do you have any books or websites to recommend to budding music/sound professionals that also have a passion for the scientific aspect of sound? Thanks, keep 'em coming! :) - Stefan

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a doozie of a question. Much of this video was figuring out the best way to explain simple concepts that can be pulled together to set up floating point. As a concept, it's mathematical but relating it to sound was the tough part. I searched and researched for months for data pertaining to 32fp and put all info into one document. Then I cross referenced info and verified it. One thing that really have me a grasp of it was finding a website that you can enter a number into and it'll tell you what it is in 32fp. Playing with numbers and studying what it's doing within certain ranges have me a great feel for it and that was what lead me into the discussion about aliasing. A lot of sound references, both online and book form, were referenced and the info simplified. Yes, simplified! That took so much time because I could preset info and lose people in the first 2 minutes but why? I also felt it was important to omit the crazy technical parts because I realized it would be 20-25 minutes long and felt that was enough and people would click off. Still the video was 30. So... To answer your question - there were a lot of sources I pulled from.

  • @decibelpeak

    @decibelpeak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds LOL fair enough and you're right, simpler is better! In that case, I'll just keep studying your videos! Thanks again :) - Stefan

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @GiancarloBiondi
    @GiancarloBiondi3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Allen ! Really comprehensive and complete. But now I need your VO copy to read and reread and study it. You could sell a nice pdf of all this! :)

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good idea. I may make the copy available on my website.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've made it available for free but have a donation link at the bottom: www.soundspeeds.us/32bitfloatingpoint

  • @GiancarloBiondi

    @GiancarloBiondi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sound Speeds many many thanks! 👍

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @18thAvenuePodcast
    @18thAvenuePodcast9 ай бұрын

    Great video! And thank you. Quick question if I’m outdoor recording traffic noise and potential interviews is 24 bit or recommended or 32 bit? Also, what about in cases where by im on set, one actor delivering a dialogue loudly while another might say whispers theirs. Which recording is better 24 or 32bit? Thanks

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    9 ай бұрын

    You can do it with either

  • @18thAvenuePodcast

    @18thAvenuePodcast

    9 ай бұрын

    thanks @@SoundSpeeds

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    9 ай бұрын

    👍 Sure thing.

  • @larrymarso4492
    @larrymarso4492 Жыл бұрын

    Great education, thank you! Raises a question about the Zoom F series. The F6 lets you adjust gain to set levels in 32-bit mode. It also offers 24-bit recording. F3 is 32 bit only, and documentation suggests there is no support for setting levels. You only control monitoring output or fade or something? So the gain is fixed? With 32 bit, you don't need to set levels, woo! 😝 You dispelled that notion. Without proper levels, you don't get 24-bit quality in the standard DB range. That's my takeaway. F3 is a nicely portable unit, but 32 bit only, and if you can't adjust gain to set levels ... Hope I haven't misunderstood the zoom F series specs. Would you happen to know? Thanks so much.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't read the F-series specs but do know that when the F6 was released, they said it didn't require gain to be set.

  • @TevfikFikretBakan
    @TevfikFikretBakan3 жыл бұрын

    It was great.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you and thank you for watching

  • @PHlophe
    @PHlophe2 жыл бұрын

    whew Chile ! that was a lot .

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine making it. That video took a long time to make

  • @j7ndominica051
    @j7ndominica051 Жыл бұрын

    32-bit is mainly useful in the box because it can contain any level with the same accuracy without clipping. If you applied an envelope, the noise floor would "float" with it could be inveted with minimal loss. 64-bit is used in plugins such as equalizer or reverb for adding extremely small numbers to a bigger number many times and not losing them and causing filters to become unstable. It only exists in Reaper because it can and to satisfy users who peek at the signal with an analyzer. When mixing multiple chanels of sound, they are all approximately in the same range, and 32-bit is plenty. Now we have even more crazy bits in Kirchhoff EQ, where you can't even see a noise floor. I doubt that a box like Zoom can exceed 140 db of dynamic range. Must be some space technology.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @beeisbad
    @beeisbad3 жыл бұрын

    WOW... all that video and math was a LOT to absorb bro! QUESTION.... I have a recording studio and I'm creating a Podcast/Vlogcast network. I do not want to use the typical Shure SM7B mics. i want to use all Lav mics. And afterwards I can great outboard gear and software to EQ the podcast vocals to sound damn near as good, if not better than using a condenser mic or shure sm7b. Because I want to do it this way, do you think having the Lav mic with 32bit float ability is the best way to go?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    No. 24 bit is more than adequate.

  • @jdstewart9689
    @jdstewart9689 Жыл бұрын

    I do have question..me and my band..three of us.. are in our studio using 24 bit recording..for vocals with music is that perfect? or should we be at 32 bit float? the reason Im asking is we do alot of cover tunes..for practice... some mid and highs.. vocal wise.. John- 5manshockwaveband..

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Not if you know how to set your gain correctly.

  • @rautshsale1948
    @rautshsale19482 жыл бұрын

    the more i look into this, the more it confuses the shit out of me! i think i still don't get the relationship between recording bit rate, and the "bits" regarding floating point i thought floating point was in relationship to internal volume processing (volume hitting plugins, volume above 0.0dbFS inside the daw, etc.) i am completely lost now that you said one can record at 32bit floating point? is this regardless of an audio interface being only being 24bit? are there soundcards that record at 32bit? or are we using the terms "24, 32 & 64 bit" for multiple things?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    The interface can be 24 bit but you can record 32 bit and gain nothing. The DAC in the 24 bit interface gives no benefit to recording in 32 FP. Think of it like this... You can connect a 1080P camera to a 4K recorder and record in 4K but you gain nothing over recording in 1080P. 16, 24, 32... all of that corresponds to the recorder and how it saves the 0s and 1s.

  • @denimszram4264
    @denimszram42648 ай бұрын

    I recorded in 32bit float and now the cutter wants the files in 24bit. is there a way to convert my audio files without losing the timecode information?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    8 ай бұрын

    Of course. Just save it as a 24 bit with the info you want to preserve.

  • @andrewgordon235
    @andrewgordon2352 жыл бұрын

    So is 24bit 48kHz lossless the top of the line sound quality for movies, TV, and Video Games or will they come out with something better in a few years?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    They haven't and I doubt they will. There's no need

  • @theearwyrm6105
    @theearwyrm61052 жыл бұрын

    32 bit float has definitely proven handy when doing a one man band shoot.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps but still unnecessary 99.999% of the time

  • @christopherconkright1317
    @christopherconkright13173 жыл бұрын

    I’d the Zoom F2 worth it? It records in 32 bit? I need a small portable lab recorder

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've never used it and have zero experience with it. Sorry.

  • @TonyBabarino
    @TonyBabarino3 жыл бұрын

    Zoom H6: recording at 24 bit, what is the difference between, say, 44mHz vs 96mHz? For KZread, would this make any difference in quality audio playing?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not at all. The reason to record above 4*K would be if you were planning to either slow down your recording or if you were to mastering a HiFi master and wanted extended frequencies for some reason. KZread rolls off above about 16K so anything above 32K will never be heard.

  • @TonyBabarino

    @TonyBabarino

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds So 24 bit at 48K is more than enough for (end result) quality audio for KZread? I shoot at 4K, 60fps video and capture audio on the H6 at 24 bit/96K (I think that's the max). Edit in Premier Pro, export at very high quality settings (to get that KZread 4K video).

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes. 24 bit 48K is great for KZread

  • @Major_Thorn
    @Major_Thorn3 жыл бұрын

    Gerg was here

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    My savior

  • @380stroker
    @380stroker3 жыл бұрын

    Funny how there are now interfaces that are 32 bit integer, but we still haven't achived true 24 bit integer. So the 32 bit integer interface is still under 144db dynamic range. I think my interface records at a true 20 bit integer despite the 24bit integer marketing.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's very likely considering the limitations of ADCs.

  • @ili6065
    @ili60652 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information as always!! Thank`s for your channel!!! By the way, can You make a video how to record a surround sound on a stage. For example room or street tone, or so. There`re obvious ways, but may be You`ll tell some tricks as U always do on yhis channel.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have that in my list of videos. Eventually I hope to get to it.

  • @ili6065

    @ili6065

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds could You please give me a link to it. I`ve looked through all your videos and wasn`t able to find it

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, I should have written that better. It's in my list of videos I want to do. It's not been made yet. That's why I said eventually I hope to get to it.

  • @destiny_02
    @destiny_022 жыл бұрын

    But why not use 32bit integers for comparison. Then it would be a fair comparison since both will use 4bytes per sample. 32bit integer has range of -2.15 billion to +2.15 billion

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know. It works be interesting to talk to the person that invented it and see

  • @geobopeter

    @geobopeter

    2 жыл бұрын

    A very reasonable question to ask, While 32 bit int. would make a path for future increase of resolution the 32bit float locks the resolution on 24 or 23bit + sign as it in reallity is. Using 32bit two's compliment numbers would had made it very easy to, with relative simple circuitry, to add bits to cope with the peaks - and maybe even with increased resolution. The present 32bit float follow some standards representation of float numbers but unfortunately also blocks any attempts to improve the quality of recording with out rewriting the present "standard" 32bit float for audio. Had a 32bit float format been thought out carefully it would not had been sign, 7 bit exp., and 24 mantisa - it would had been a signed 3 to 5 bit exp. (4 to 6 bits used) and a 28 to 26 bits mantisa. Remember that the exp. is a number telling you how many places you need to move the decimal point - 3 bit plus sign would be +/- 7 times !!, or like multiplying or dividing the 28 bit value in the mantisa by one million, or +/-60dB ....... 120dB increased dynamic range. Add that to the 20dB the extra 4 bit (24 to 28 bit resolution) would give and you have 280dB of real world dynamic range with 150dB real world resolution !!!!!!!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Impressive but overkill for most use cases

  • @thejonathandoan
    @thejonathandoan3 жыл бұрын

    Good thing I brought my Interositer. I'll need to commune with Exeter for more information.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know what that means but I hope it's a good thing.

  • @thejonathandoan

    @thejonathandoan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds I was only being snarky. Was referring to the movie "This Island Earth", which I know because it was riffed in Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie. I tried my best to keep up but it involves math and math scares me because I don't understand most of it. lol

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try watching again and pause as needed. I do all but one calculation on screen because I already showed how to do that calculation a few times and have a link to the website in the description.

  • @thejonathandoan

    @thejonathandoan

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds The basics of it make sense and it is very helpful knowledge!! I can also reference this video or share it when the need arises. Thanks for doing this!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! That's what it's there for - as a reference.

  • @geobopeter
    @geobopeter2 жыл бұрын

    The present 32bit float follow some standards representation of float numbers but unfortunately also blocks any attempts to improve the quality of recording with out rewriting the present "standard" 32bit float for audio. Had a 32bit float format been thought out carefully it would not had been sign, 7 bit exp., and 24 mantisa - it would had been a signed 3 to 5 bit exp. (4 to 6 bits used) and a 28 to 26 bits mantisa. Remember that the exp. is a number telling you how many places you need to move the decimal point - 3 bit plus sign would be +/- 7 times !!, or like multiplying or dividing the 28 bit value in the mantisa by one million, or +/-60dB ....... 120dB increased dynamic range. Add to that the 20dB the extra 4 bit (24 to 28 bit resolution) would give and you have 260dB of real world dynamic range with 150dB real world resolution !!!!!!!! Keeping strickt to the binary roules of float numbers it may not be more than 104 dB extra dynamic range - but 225dB real world dynamic range with 150dB real world resolution . Using present day 24bit's ADC's it would "only" give you 190-200 dB dyn. range with 125dB resolution - only very specialyzed microphones and sensores will challenge this.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    :-)

  • @peterslegers6121
    @peterslegers61213 жыл бұрын

    9^9 obviously ^^

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can't win all the time. ;-)

  • @ChrisWilliams68
    @ChrisWilliams68 Жыл бұрын

    I've always wondered what happened to Albert Einstein's grandchildren.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Google

  • @ben-benedict
    @ben-benedict3 жыл бұрын

    Ok now am sure am really dumb 🤣🤣🤣🤣. But I get the main point of this nice video ! « Slightly technical side » lol ..... this statement is slightly underrated

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... only slightly. LOL. Thanks for watching. :-)

  • @ben-benedict

    @ben-benedict

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure ! Tx for the hard work hide behind the carpet 😱

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's all worth it when people watch, learn and enjoy. Hopefully enjoy. :-)

  • @mjfx
    @mjfx Жыл бұрын

    which is better? 16 or 24bit?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you watch the video? 24.

  • @emerson-biggons7078
    @emerson-biggons70783 жыл бұрын

    32 bit(FP) is a worthwhile tick if you are editing music Same for 24, why doesn't matter unless you dont edit audio... in which case why do you have 24bit+ anything? However if you just listen to audio, like music or Ebooks dont bother going above 16bit, that includes files. The best choice is usually mp3 320 16 bit for the normal hearing range of people, go for either IEMS or for audiophile supreme mega super dooper sound stage 3000 whatevers. Buy a BTR3K to drive any headset portably, or a BTR5 for those extra thirsty cans.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Editing is a different creature than recording. I know people that use 32FP for editing and they say it's important to. I'll disagree about recording in only 16 though. Especially for the noise floor and low volume dynamics, I think 24 is critical for pro recordings.

  • @emerson-biggons7078

    @emerson-biggons7078

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds I didnt say to record in 16, I said if you just listen to audio then use 16. But otherwise yes! Exactly

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see. Yeah, 16 in plenty for most

  • @zbyszekolko3998
    @zbyszekolko39982 жыл бұрын

    What makes you claim 1V analog audio signal should represent 0dBFS? In professional world we use +4dBu level which equals to 1.2Vrms. That old agreement does not say anything what headroom to 0dBFS should be.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watch this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6mos6mznpe7lpc.html Then: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZh80JaFYbetlNY.html

  • @zbyszekolko3998

    @zbyszekolko3998

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@SoundSpeeds Irrelevant. There are ADCs calibrated as 1V (+2dBu) = 0dBFS as well as 12V (+24dBu) = 0dBFS. The same with DACs. No standard for VU meter either. 0VU can be calibrated to 0, +4, +8dBu

  • @billy2896
    @billy289611 ай бұрын

    9^9?

  • @billy2896

    @billy2896

    11 ай бұрын

    YESSSSS LETS GOOOO

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    11 ай бұрын

    👍😎

  • @learnerforever6933
    @learnerforever69333 жыл бұрын

    I watched this and got a headache 😂 thanks for the video but you should have put a disclaimer in the beginning that you won’t be responsible for damaged brains 😆 just kidding, thanks again 😇

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry and thanks for watching.

  • @jameslifetimelearner
    @jameslifetimelearner3 жыл бұрын

    Duh...Thanks for the warning. I Knew I didn’t need it!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are very correct

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobileАй бұрын

    If setting a record level is just too hard to do, consider another line of work.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @Hugmir
    @Hugmir3 жыл бұрын

    I am probably a slowthinking dummdumm, but you may want to consider slowing down a bit at fancy moments like 8:18. I replayed it thrice and still didn't quite get it >.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry. If you have any questions, let me know.

  • @gabet3754
    @gabet37542 жыл бұрын

    My head hurts 🙁

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    I understand. Sorry.

  • @gabet3754

    @gabet3754

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds Hahahahahaha. I’ve been recording and mixing for almost 18 years. My first interface was a Mobile Pre and I used an bootleg version of acid pro 4.0. I thought I had idea about this stuff, but this blew my mind. Glad you didn’t take offense.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not at all Gabe. Thanks for coming by to watch a video and comment. Your comments are always welcome.

  • @susanguinn8183
    @susanguinn81833 жыл бұрын

    99

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully you enjoyed the video. :-)

  • @skyfly200
    @skyfly2003 жыл бұрын

    9^9

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @helmanfrow
    @helmanfrow Жыл бұрын

    One Volt of current.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    I know... I didn't catch it until later. I think I addressed it in the comments though.

  • @helmanfrow

    @helmanfrow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds Oh, don't mind me, I'm just up way past my bedtime doing some light -trolling- scrolling.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    No worries. I do the same thing.

  • @TheGalacticWest
    @TheGalacticWest3 жыл бұрын

    your computer would care if the sound was at 1000dbl. Your computer would have some errors as it would be inside a black hole.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Impossible SPL.

  • @cosmicsimonmusic
    @cosmicsimonmusic Жыл бұрын

    Can you repeat please

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    Жыл бұрын

    Ah, I see what you were saying. 😎

  • @Justin_Allen
    @Justin_Allen3 жыл бұрын

    So, basic interviews and controlled sets 24 bit...run and gun on the streets 32 bit FP. I think.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd go 24 bit in both of those circumstances. It has to be insanely loud to warrant 32 bit floating point to me. If you set your levels correctly for the voices you're recording, you're getting what you care about. If traffic is too loud and drowns out the voice, you gotta hold for sound and go again anyway...

  • @Justin_Allen

    @Justin_Allen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds One other question. One of the reasons I just purchased the MixPre II was because as a single operator I was told it was possible to use the 32 bit FP and it would allow me to "bring out" any sound that I may have recorded incorrectly. That I did not have to always "ride the gains". Would you agree with this?

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depends. If you make any kind of effort to set gain, you should be fine but if you know nothing and don't want to learn how, you're trading off effort for convenience with larger file sizes. It really doesn't take much effort at all to set a level especially since there's already a lot of headroom built into peak level and as long as you use a limiter, you're going to be fine.

  • @Justin_Allen

    @Justin_Allen

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds Oh, I am definitely learning :p I also agree with you, however I like backups for backups and I saw the 32 bit as one form of backup. I will certainly experiment both ways. While I do not see the larger file size as a downside, it doesn't seem like larger file sizes are the only downside however. Thanks for the video, I learned a lot.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are others but as I mentioned in this video, you'll most likely never detect them or have them matter.

  • @DMidNyte
    @DMidNyte3 жыл бұрын

    Ffffuuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkk!!!!!

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is that good or bad?

  • @DMidNyte

    @DMidNyte

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds im sure it all adds up in the end. But damn, thats a LOT of numbers.

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    It does and yes, it is. Thanks for watching.

  • @redscott7179
    @redscott71793 жыл бұрын

    387420489

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Copycat! ;-)

  • @redscott7179

    @redscott7179

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I learned so much

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @bespokefilms
    @bespokefilms3 жыл бұрын

    9/0 is largest... 🙂

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    9/0 is 1

  • @bespokefilms

    @bespokefilms

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds 9/0 is infinity.

  • @bespokefilms

    @bespokefilms

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually it's 9 times infinity

  • @SoundSpeeds

    @SoundSpeeds

    3 жыл бұрын

    9 to the 0 power is 1

  • @bespokefilms

    @bespokefilms

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SoundSpeeds yes, but 9 divided by 0 is infinity. That's the largest number I can make with 2 digits and an operand. You didn't specify whether or not you needed to be able to write a file that contains that many bits.

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