Good video. I had been looking at ways to improve my tree straps this week but had only glanced past these. Think I'm sold now.

@FrozensAdventures

Жыл бұрын

As an update to you. These are still going strong after over 150 nights in the hammock.

@Hazmatt4700

Жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures awesome. That's good long term use data.

Also eliminates possible tree damage caused by metal hardware. I bought these and a set of ultralight dyneema tree straps from Jeff on ebay and recommend them highly.

@jeffmyers7062

6 жыл бұрын

'preciate it !

Myerstech is very innovative. I love the idea of using only soft materials for all hammock camping application but, I also love supporting Dutch’s enterprise. His titanium and aluminum products are all made in America with American materials and he uses local sources for cutting. Thanks for the video.

@hipgroove68

5 жыл бұрын

Dutch likes to sue people

As a follow up. I made a set today. They work better than I thought! Super easy to secure. Appreciate you showing this. And I want to thank Jeff for the great tutorials!

@jeffmyers7062

6 жыл бұрын

anytime

Great video with excellent demonstration and explanation! I will be subscribing. Plus, I had seen the Myers videos and saved many of them, but didn't know until about a week ago that he had a store. Duh! Great innovative products at great prices. Myers has advanced the sport in many ways. Highly recommended!

@jeffmyers7062

5 жыл бұрын

thanks !

@howdydoody30204b

5 жыл бұрын

Hi, @@jeffmyers7062 - If this use of the Evo loop/soft shackle is your idea, then mega thanks to you, because it is a truly great idea! I tried it using improved soft shackles, as taught by Tac Blades, and it works wonderfully. I just make the webbing side loop a bit bigger by making one more pass through. Hard to explain, but easy to see in the video. Thanks! FYI, I just ordered some of your blue webbing to make some tree straps to use with your method.

I just received my Evo Loops this week. I can already tell I'm really going to like these! They are exceptionally light and very strong. Jeff Myers is great to deal with. He even sent me an extra pair for free! I would not hesitate to buy from him again.

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

They've been great for me so far. Very easy to use and strong. No issues.

@rickwebermusic

5 жыл бұрын

That's good to know. They'll be getting a good field test later this week/weekend on the Ozark Trail. Looking forward to using them.

Always open to new good ideas! This is a good one. Thanks for sharing. 😊👍

Great find and share. I've been looking at soft shackles to replace my hardware but I'm going to give these a try. I like the ease of use less fuss on trail and the soft material approach.

awesome! another good video testing new products.

Great tip. Just placed an order for 2 sets. Thanks for sharing!

Yep definitely going to get some. The Dutch clip is great and I'll still use them at times, but for those trips where I need to be UL these will help. Thanks

I use soft shackles but these are just as simple. And I nerd out on new gear. I may give them a try.

Jeff Myers (the owner of the Myerstech hammock labs) also has great tutorials for making button clips. I like them much better than Dutch clips (yikes, did I just say that) or Biners. This is a little different than the button clips on the tutorial, but similar in application. I like how both are actually attached to the loops on the straps, so that I can't lose them. My ultralight set up, using button clips with 10 foot straps for both sides is just under 2 oz. I use either the Beckett hitch or J-bend to attach to the hammock. So glad that you shared a look at these. Very cool.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

This dude seems pretty innovative. I wish I would have found him years ago.

@rickwebermusic

5 жыл бұрын

Don't tell Dutch, but Amsteel is cooler than Titanium!

@howdydoody30204b

5 жыл бұрын

@@rickwebermusic I don't think Dutch is worried. There are plenty of people who like the micro hardware approach. I'm sure he's fine with alternatives. :-)

@rickwebermusic

5 жыл бұрын

@@howdydoody30204b Oh I never said Dutch was worried. He has his market and plenty of fans (I still purchase stuff from him). My comment was merely tongue-in-cheek, while pointing out how cool and versatile Amsteel is. Dutch's marketing is so good that many folks believe that you have to have titanium doohickeys if you want an ultralight option for your setup. But Amsteel is a very neat material. It's equally as ultralight as titanium, and does not cause abrasion on your other webbing/gear.

Meijer Tech makes a lot of cool things for hammocks

If we get anymore ultralight we'll be tying knots with humidity.

@howdydoody30204b

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. Too heavy.

Nice table!

Just order a few. Thanks!

Good stuff!

This is brilliant

Interesting design. Personally, I think a soft shackle is easier to make, stronger and more secure, and more versatile.

I really love my Dutch Clips. Nevertheless, I made a few pairs of these Evo Loops this afternoon and tried them out. They worked great and are very easy to handle. I was a bit unsure whether the knot would hold in the "buttonhole" at first, but this doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm not sure whether I am going to use them instead of the Dutch Clips yet. Maybe, if I am going to have a lightweight set for summer hammock hiking. I will see. Thank you for sharing.

@Herbert080345

4 жыл бұрын

I am done with dutch clips, if the pull angle does not stay correctley, the tree stap brakes directely on the edge, it happend to me.

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

I can attest to Evo loops. They are still going strong after over 150 nights with them.

Seems intresting. Like I needed more stuff on my wish list. Lol

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Luckily these items don't break the bank lol

Yes! Someone finally figured out how to remove the “hard”ware in an all tension system. One question, does it put extra wear on the webbing since it’s gathers and not flat?

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

I really don't think so but time will tell. I plan on bringing them on the AT as long as the trips the rest of the year go ok with this setup. I can't see any issues happening with they way these are setup. It simply is not going to wear on the webbing, fabric on fabric.

Awesome video. As usual, great instruction. Similar to the soft shackle nacrobiner that Shug has used for years. So....did you choose that BLUE shackle at random? I think not. You do love your Blue, don’t ya?

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely was on purpose, blue is my color!

Thanks for sharing this. Seems like a great product. I’m confused why you can’t just run the strap through the loop on the end of the strap?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

You totally can but these help make adjustments once it's already on the tree. And make it faster setting up and tearing down because you don't need to take the straps off the hammock. These can be quickly removed with one hand so you can move in between branches.

I saw this on hammock forums and thought about giving it a try someday. If you have any tips or links for the SHT it would be appreciated. I'm hoping to do it next year or in 2020.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Watch the wrapup video all tips are in there

Jeff his nice guide you have any question he always give you information. also price are reasonable I like to contact with him GIVE 5 STARS*****

I bought this from Jeff. Love it. Are you still using it Jason?

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I am. Love them so far.

Nice gear! A hammock camper myself. Question: any idea on weight limits on the devices?

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Same as amsteel which is 350 lbs I believe. It's not going to break due to weight.

@jeffmyers7062

6 жыл бұрын

tested break on these is 3500, stonger than the rest of the components on pretty much any set up

Why wouldn't you just feed the other end of the webbing through the loop at the end of the webbing and not use anything else?

@FrozensAdventures

9 ай бұрын

You can do that but these 3gram loops make it easier to quick disconnect once your set up. Say you have a branch in your way where the strap has to come completely off. Just makes it a lot easier to raise or lower the hammock or even move it to another tree quickly.

I just checked out the Facebook page to see if I can buy a couple they no longer have them....did u get them from Myers hammock Facebook page or eBay ...I can’t seem to find them

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

I sent him a message on FB and he gave me PayPal address. Myerstech hammock lab. I messed up the name in the video but corrected it in the video details.

@hikingwithyowie

6 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures thanks just messaged him 😀

@jeffmyers7062

6 жыл бұрын

I have plenty on ebay or hit me up an Facebook for a slight discount www.ebay.com/itm/283081115747

Hey Jason are you still using the EVO Loops? Thanks

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Same ones as in this video and have over 140 nights on them. No wear and tear on the straps or loops. Slight discoloration of the loop as expected.

@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker

4 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Thanks ordering them today. I don't think I told you but I ordered a hammock and tarp from Hemlock Mountain Outdoors a cottage company located in PA. The hammock is the Coyote Pack model and the tarp is a 12' SilPoly with doors. I am ordering my tarp ridgeline from Dutchware. Obviously, the tarp will be heavy but Dynemma was out of the question, or at least the wallet. Not sure what I am doing with an under quilt yet for starters I will try a pad and then go from there. I really want to thank you for all of your great video which guided me in my decision. Have a great weekend Jason.

I am trying to buy the evoloops and can only find them on ebay? Does he not have his own site? When I went on ebay they were sold out and I need them now. Is there another option? Someone else who sells them or some other way I can get them from Jeff other than ebay?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Send him message through FB. He is small time but has a great product.

Can't you just run strap around the tree and through the sewn end and eliminate the loop all together?

@FrozensAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you can. I like to be able to quickly take it off the tree if I need to make adjustments though perhaps over a branch if necessary.

Did you use these on your AT hike? If not how come?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Yes the whole way and they held up perfectly. No wear or tear on the loops or straps which really surprised me.

Can I make a similar solution using paracord?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Paracord stretches and isn't as strong as amsteel so I wouldn't advise it.

Were you still using this for the 2019 AT Thru Hike?

@FrozensAdventures

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they worked great.

Just another step added to a already easy job.. Just run the strap through the loop end

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

You can do that but what if you want to raise the trap over a branch? You would have to take the strap completely off the hammock and reattach.

just use a stick as a toggle

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

I really don't like toggles. I've tried tons of different suspensions and I always go back to a cinch buckle system.

Does anyone know how to make these? I haven’t seen anything

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff Myers has tutorials. Look in the video description for his KZread channel.

Why not just use the loop already on the strap? Just pass the strap through it. Reduces 1 part to keep up with, just as quick.

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

You can, but if you need to raise your strap over a branch, then you would have to take your hammock off the suspension and rerun it. Carabiners, clips, and evo loops allow you to make quick adjustments to unhook and adjust and hook back in. For me it's worth the extra accessory to not have to dirty my hammock or have that extra nuisance in adjustments.

@claramullen

6 жыл бұрын

Interesting concept I would be interested to see how well that works over time. And it would be easy to carry an extra with not much added weight cool

@arcana1973

6 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures you don't really need to take it off the suspension. You just loosen it on the webbing, and then loosen the webbing around the tree, and lift/drop as needed, and readjust on the webbing

@FrozensAdventures

6 жыл бұрын

Arcana73 what? You are gonna loosen your clipped suspension over a branch idk

@arcana1973

6 жыл бұрын

Outdoor Adventures that would depend of I have a branch to worry about. Most times, it's not an issue. I guess I'm just over buying more junk to pimp out my setup. It's not worth the extra $ to save a few ounces. I'd rather put it in my gas tank or food budget for trips. Happy hang day!

I just put the tail through the loop and the use the webbing. Guess I am missing something.

@camezcym4975

6 жыл бұрын

Thinking the same. That is how Kammok's python straps work

It's real name is: SOFT SHACKLE, it is not new at all......it has been used by the sailing community for ages

@FrozensAdventures

5 жыл бұрын

Well yea most everyone knows that, but the product is called an evo loop because he's selling them. Some people especially beginners aren't aware of these things.