3 Gigs of RAM vs 64 (OpenCore Legacy!)

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Today we're playing around with Open Core Legacy, and using it to install the latest version of MacOS 14 Sonoma on some old Macs that have no business running Sonoma.
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  • @HowsiryDo-cy1vh
    @HowsiryDo-cy1vh7 ай бұрын

    Can't speak highly enough about OpenCore! That software combined with an SSD+RAM upgrade breathed new life into a family members old 2010 macbook7,1. It runs so well they held off buying a new machine entirely.

  • @braddl9442

    @braddl9442

    7 ай бұрын

    Now you know why Apple stopped support of them. Because of this reality that their old stuff could run and do most stuff people want you dont have to buy a new annual 2000 dollar computer form them.

  • @bland9876

    @bland9876

    7 ай бұрын

    Friend's mom's computer definitely needs that kind of upgrade because the horror is it's running a 5200 HDD and 4 gigs DDR3. Yes Windows 10 chugs. Like holy crap it's not even a 7200 HDD. Also this is how I found out that there's two types of RAM so even though I had DDR 3 I couldn't upgrade it to 8 gigs :(

  • @TurdInternational

    @TurdInternational

    7 ай бұрын

    @@braddl9442 Same reason MS wont let you put W11 on anything made more then ~7 years ago. Most mid-rate Intel Mac/PC made after 2008 will work fine for a good portion of the market

  • @chriswatt2702

    @chriswatt2702

    7 ай бұрын

    You hit the nail on the head there. The biggest delays in this video were tied to the disk access speeds.

  • @willm5032

    @willm5032

    7 ай бұрын

    It's amazing and so easy to do with some tutorial following. I ran Catalina, then big Sur on my 2008 Mac pro 3,1 until I finally bought my mac mini this summer. Amazing software and the fact it's completely free is mind-blowing

  • @letsseewherethisgoes
    @letsseewherethisgoes7 ай бұрын

    Currently running Sonoma on both a 2012 iMac (i5, 8GB, and a 640m) and a 2015 base Air, both running surprisingly well with OCLP. Great piece of software.

  • @Stanwis

    @Stanwis

    7 ай бұрын

    I tried ventura on 2013 macbook air 4gb, and unfortunately its slower the big sur

  • @KaitenKenbu

    @KaitenKenbu

    7 ай бұрын

    Super dope for sure, I am amazed at all the models it works for and how much effort they put into getting non metal GPUs to work.

  • @Nico-mi2pr

    @Nico-mi2pr

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Stanwisyeah I think the main problem are the 4 gigs of ram. I think it’d be way better with 8gigs of ram, and maybe a more recent (and faster) nvme ssd

  • @cosanostra101

    @cosanostra101

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@StanwisI have performed dozens of install on older mac so far. What I noticed is if you give it enough time to index everything on spotlight and turn off animations it get much better

  • @Stanwis

    @Stanwis

    7 ай бұрын

    @@cosanostra101 yes i actually read it after posting that some guys used even on 4 gigs and its not bad after indexing.

  • @tompov227
    @tompov2277 ай бұрын

    If anything, this shows you what a revolution the Intel switch must have been in 2006. Everybody knows what a G4 or G5 computer can do today and when you compare that to what a core 2 duo could do, it’s actually very impressive. No wonder Apple did that.

  • @drewzero1

    @drewzero1

    7 ай бұрын

    I was using a Core 2 Duo in my main machine at home until about two years ago. They were like lightning compared to the G4s they replaced! Still have two machines in daily use that have C2Ds but they slow down a lot when trying to run VMs.

  • @kFY514

    @kFY514

    7 ай бұрын

    To be fair, part of why the PowerPC machines are so unusable is because of the lack of software support. You can patch an Intel build of Sonoma with missing drivers and a hacked UEFI layer, but you can't rebuild the OS for an architecture it was never meant to support. You can run Linux on a PowerPC Mac though, and the latest models are actually somewhat usable that way, if a bit glitchy - and the glitchiness, once again, stems from the fact that not many people maintain Linux for PowerPC even though it's technically still supported.

  • @shemlesh

    @shemlesh

    7 ай бұрын

    Apple primarily switched because using an architecture that is primarily aimed at workstations led unsurprisingly to power dissipation issues when being stuffed into a laptop, so they had to severely underclock/use cost reduced PowerPC chips. Intel was dominate in the same market but had the exact same issues with the mobile Pentium 4s, they realized that the microarchitectural design of Netburst was braindead, and needed a return to the P6 and Core was born, there was little advantage for the same to happen with PowerPC (due to bulk of the market not being in the same market segment and apples software model meant that backwards compatibility was not much of an issue that couldn't be addressed as they had with the switch from 6502 -> m68k -> PPC) but PPC found use in consoles and high performance computing. (where power consumption and compatibility with the existing software library doesn't matter.) PowerPC to this day outperforms/classes Intel, but it is so locked into its niche that it is unlikely to escape, as consoles are basically now just cost reduced PCs.

  • @tompov227

    @tompov227

    7 ай бұрын

    @@shemlesh That's pretty much what happened in 2020. Like if you wanna spend 500W on your computer you can get a 13900K to beat the M1 Ultra but the M1 Ultra is bonkers in performance for how little power it uses

  • @charliekahn4205

    @charliekahn4205

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kFY514 Since IBM switched over to Z for their customer-facing servers, POWER ISA hasn't really had a use case

  • @richdaley9982
    @richdaley99827 ай бұрын

    During the covid lockdown I upgraded a bunch of old Macs using open core for kids at my wife’s school to use for zoom classes etc. I had a lot of success with the white non pro MacBooks from the 2008-2010 era because it was so easy to upgrade the hardware and they were dirt cheap.

  • @DengueBurger

    @DengueBurger

    6 ай бұрын

    Great way to avoid ewaste. Somebody should do this at scale.

  • @guaiqueritech

    @guaiqueritech

    Ай бұрын

    Coming from a third world nation, the implications from this solution are so underrated. The digital divide would be made narrower if access to older, yet still capable, gear could be possible for really low budgets

  • @DistrosProjects
    @DistrosProjects7 ай бұрын

    Tip for making sure that the computer always boots from the correct drive: Hold down Control as you click on the arrow in the Option menu to set that device as the default (the arrow will turn into a reverse arrow). Not enough people know about this.

  • @something2sea

    @something2sea

    7 ай бұрын

    That's a fantastic hint. Useful in many scenarios!

  • @DengueBurger

    @DengueBurger

    6 ай бұрын

    Needs to be pinned

  • @jbilmendoza
    @jbilmendoza7 ай бұрын

    Technically that MacBook Pro can run carbonized apps for Mac OS 9 power PC running under Rosetta with snow leopard, Windows XP natively, and MacOS Sonoma with apps that can run with M2 Ultra

  • @federicogori9888

    @federicogori9888

    6 ай бұрын

    True LoL

  • @orestes1984

    @orestes1984

    4 ай бұрын

    This is one of the reasons I kept my 2012 unibody long after it was unusefully slow. It could run Rosetta apps for anything made before 10.6 Snow Leopard was a thing. It's probably the best point in time especially if you can get your hands on a 15inch or 17inch MacBook Pro with a dedicated GPU that's still working if you have the need to run legacy apps. The 17inch model still holds an unusually high regard which may affect its resale value though so don''t overpay.

  • @DisketteDreams
    @DisketteDreams7 ай бұрын

    I’m really happy to see more content that celebrates older hardware. Many channels compare PCs and Macs and make out like a 1 second difference in a benchmark is a deal-breaker. Here we’re celebrating that most everyday things can run at a reasonable speed on such an old machine.

  • @ananon5771
    @ananon57717 ай бұрын

    looks awesome, amazing work from them, sounds like a fun project to do, and for somewhat newer macs, it may really be worth it.

  • @davidnotonstinnett
    @davidnotonstinnett7 ай бұрын

    The OCLP team are truly amazing. A great public service to keep this hardware alive. Like something this old, maybe we can agree it should be retired. But my 2015 MacBook Pro? That has plenty of power to do a lot of different things but Apple retired it years ago. OCLP has the potential to keep millions of old Macs out of landfills.

  • @ImLeeLoi
    @ImLeeLoi7 ай бұрын

    I think what's really interesting to me is my first MacBook was a 17" Pro 4,1 with 2GB of ram (but a slightly faster 2.5GHz processor) and when KZread first released 1080P video in late 2009 (Like the TRON 2 Trailer right??) It also had the same 1080P KZread slow downs... So the fact it can play 1080P on Sonoma is REALLY impressive. Late 2009 was like Snow Leopard days.

  • @monkeyman767
    @monkeyman7677 ай бұрын

    Ive an old 17" non-unibody MBP at home, core 2 duo, really tempted to give this a shot! Edit: Wow, im actually amazed how good the older MBP held up! Goes to show optimisation really is essential

  • @eggnorman
    @eggnorman7 ай бұрын

    I've got a 2015 13" running the latest OS and it's awesome. At least until the Intel days die for good, I expect this to be not only a viable option but the preferred option, given that newer Intel Macs are still quite expensive despite their low support expectancy.

  • @samdmc04
    @samdmc047 ай бұрын

    I can see this being a use case for mom's or grandpa's old basement iMac with a pair of old apple usb speakers plugged in. It's not for intensive use but it'd work well for basic stuff!

  • @kbhasi
    @kbhasi7 ай бұрын

    I'm just here realising that running macOS 14 on a MacBook Pro from 2008 (originally came with 10.5) looks to me like like running Windows 11 on a PC laptop that originally came with Windows Vista (edit: like when DIY Dr K did just that with an IBM ThinkPad X60). As such, I'm amazed.

  • @resneptacle

    @resneptacle

    7 ай бұрын

    Honestly, Windows 11 on a Core 2 era notebook seems far less weird than a modern MacOS on the same class of machine!

  • @guaiqueritech

    @guaiqueritech

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve said this a couple of times: windows may be inefficient at times, but you can run Windows 10, a still supported and stable OS, in laptops from the XP era (managing expectations, of course), natively, without resorting to gimmicks. That’s sustainability in my book

  • @MrDeelightful
    @MrDeelightful7 ай бұрын

    This is the kind of stuff I love to see. Anything from the last 10 years can still do basic productivity tasks, and running the latest OS is always best practice. It's nice to see new life breathed into old machines like this.

  • @anonymeister123

    @anonymeister123

    7 ай бұрын

    My 2017 MacBook Pro still pretty much feels brand new, and is no longer supported. I'll definitely be giving this a try!

  • @BaggerPRO

    @BaggerPRO

    6 ай бұрын

    On the one hand, it is safer to use the latest software, since it contains fixes for old vulnerabilities. But on the other hand, I don't know how many additional vulnerabilities this Patcher creates.

  • @outtakontroll3334

    @outtakontroll3334

    3 ай бұрын

    not always the best practice, it can break a lot of your workflow. if it works, stick with it and save your cash

  • @garrettjones8448
    @garrettjones84487 ай бұрын

    This makes me incredibly happy to see. Would love to see how well this works on some twenty tens unibody MacBook Pros with some more intensive testing

  • @dmug
    @dmug7 ай бұрын

    Glad to see bigger channels singing the praises of OCLP.

  • @BradenKennelly
    @BradenKennelly7 ай бұрын

    Wow, every time you tried a new test I thought it work not work or be really slow. But it ran everything amazingly quick for a machine from mid 2000s. Looks like I gotta buy another old Mac to try this myself

  • @makegamemusic
    @makegamemusic7 ай бұрын

    I’ve done my professional composing work using the latest version of the operating system for several years using OLP and my 2013 iMac still flies! If you use the software, consider donating to the project as it benefits us all being able to install the latest OS on old macs.

  • @foxglenacres
    @foxglenacres7 ай бұрын

    this is just great! i upgrade my macbook pro 15" retina mid-2012 and got ventura working flawlessly!

  • @CherryTv_CUP
    @CherryTv_CUP7 ай бұрын

    Those old machines are actually really smooth computers so much so that for a whole year at my college i used a 2007 one of the none unibodys in 2022 to do everyday tasks and used the laptop as my main one despite having much newer machines. It just felt so much nice to use than any of my other macs especially my mid 2010 one with a failing GPU that was until the battery expanded overnight and now it awaits future battery replacement for life to be breathed back into the old beast. (For Ref i did use an SSD in it, that helped a lot)

  • @ericfore
    @ericfore7 ай бұрын

    It'd be great to see this same test with your 2008 MBP upgraded to an SSD and 6gb RAM (the max for that model) Running OCLP Sonoma on my 2008 Mac Pro and it operates flawlessly!

  • @drewzero1

    @drewzero1

    7 ай бұрын

    I misread that as OLPC and wondered if it added a hand crank for off-grid charging 😂

  • @markdyckinbc
    @markdyckinbc7 ай бұрын

    I am so glad you posted this video, this is amazing! I just upgraded an old iMac 12,1 that has been stuck @ High Sierra today because of you. I have made me look like a rock star in the eyes of my boss because it has put life back into these machine that we thought we were forced to replace. Love the shenanigans!

  • @warrenmcclure7819
    @warrenmcclure78197 ай бұрын

    Its so cool to see this, Ive used Opencore on my 2017 5k iMac and its worked so well.

  • @TechKingdom35
    @TechKingdom357 ай бұрын

    Nice, OpenCore is such a gift to people with older macs (or even PCs). Using it I got Sonoma even running on a GPD Pocket (7inch Mini Laptop). I also use it on a 2011 MacBook Pro.

  • @Underestimated37

    @Underestimated37

    7 ай бұрын

    Ooh I have one of those pockets, how good is the performance? Is it usable?

  • @TechKingdom35

    @TechKingdom35

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Underestimated37 It only works on the Pocket 2 and newer. The performance is actually really usable. Better than the 2011 MacBook Pro in my opinion. I made a video on it where I have benchmark results for it if you are more interested

  • @Underestimated37

    @Underestimated37

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TechKingdom35 damn mine is the original, so that’s out then (not shocking because it’s pretty basic) was thinking it’d make a good backup for travel

  • @TechKingdom35

    @TechKingdom35

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Underestimated37 Sadly the intel Atom CPU in the first generation is not supported by macos. Very old version could be patched (Leopard, Snow Leopard, Lion). But that support is long gone and was only for 32 bit atoms afaik. But linux mint runs very well on the pocket 1. I have mine dualbooting mint and windows 10

  • @Underestimated37

    @Underestimated37

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TechKingdom35 yeah mint is probably my next go to when I decide to mess with it again

  • @davidgreen8512
    @davidgreen85127 ай бұрын

    OpenCore is awesome. I'm watching this and typing this comment on a late 2013 iMac running Sonoma thanks to them. I almost wish they would take donations because I feel bad that they work so hard to keep this old hardware going.

  • @jonathanlara1297

    @jonathanlara1297

    5 ай бұрын

    Saaameee, i'm watching this video and typing this comment on a mid 2010 iMac 21.5 running Monterey. Is actually impressive what this old machines are capable of.

  • @orestes1984

    @orestes1984

    4 ай бұрын

    It's an open project with a licensing structure designed to stay just enough in a grey area that they don't get sued by Apple and lose. They legally could not charge for what they do. I run Ventura at the moment but given how well it's running I may well upgrade to Sonoma. i have the same Mac, for a Core i5 3.4ghz with the 2GB 775M Kepler GPU it runs well. Heck, I tend to think the legacy metal drivers run a little better, I was able to push an extra 20-40fps out of Minecraft while using legacy Metal drivers maxing out at about 100fps and keeping above 30fps for the most part with a few freezes here and there. For what most people would do with it such as editing your iMac would run well, especially if you were to swap in an NVME drive which I've thought about but can't bring myself to doing due to the difficulty of getting inside these computers. I mean if I didn't install Ventura the next step was just to use it as a monitor in target display mode for my M1 Mac, but I felt I could still do more.

  • @TaijanDean
    @TaijanDean7 ай бұрын

    Wow! What a great way to bring new life to these otherwise obsolete machines. Can't wait to see you put sinoma on the Cirsed Mac 😂

  • @TomFlach
    @TomFlach6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!! About 11 years ago I shoehorned a 2009 Macbook mobo from eBay into my black 2006 Macbook to breath new life into it. I really thought it had seen it's last OS update... Can't wait to try this

  • @aaronring4704
    @aaronring47047 ай бұрын

    I just finished fully upgrading the RAM and installing a 1TB SSD in my 2009 27" iMac for just this purpose! (Actually for Ventura; I just want to be able to run current versions of productivity software.) Can't wait to get started!

  • @KaitenKenbu
    @KaitenKenbu7 ай бұрын

    Watching this as I install Sonoma on my mum's 2017 iMac via opencore. Great channel. I also have a 4,1 that seems like it needs the sonoma treatment before i end up putting XP for gaming or Linux mint on it like my other ancient but perfectly serviceable MBPs. Then it's time to see how hard Sonoma is to put on my 09 Mac Pro flashed to a 5,1.

  • @miguelmontoya1320
    @miguelmontoya13207 ай бұрын

    I was just able to upgrade my mid 2009 Macbook Pro to Monterey thanks to OCLP. It's like having a new computer and I'm surprised at how well it runs. Great video!

  • @lyyre_mzr
    @lyyre_mzr7 ай бұрын

    Opencore is so nice for keeping old Macintoshes compatible with the current ecosystem. Ventura Opencore worked great for the last year and hopefully Sonoma will as well.

  • @OsX86H3AvY
    @OsX86H3AvY7 ай бұрын

    I prefer my HP EliteDesk 800 G5 Mini for Sonoma (works absolutely perfectly!) and my Dell 7310 (only on Monterey though, not sure about the WiFi/BT on Sonoma so will have to see) but either way your videos are great, keep it up!!! BTW you should try EdUBudgie Linux on one of your old laptops!!! :)

  • @MichaelAStanhope
    @MichaelAStanhope7 ай бұрын

    You are insane, but its so cool to see how good Sonoma runs on it. I used to run Mojave on a Macbook (2008) and it did suprisingly well, kinda wish I still had it.

  • @dingdong2103

    @dingdong2103

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm waiting for the next edition of MacOS Gomorra.

  • @therealloganyt237

    @therealloganyt237

    7 ай бұрын

    Member

  • @glossymouse7712

    @glossymouse7712

    7 ай бұрын

    I've got Mojave on a 2008 iMac, it runs horrible. Opening Opera takes about 2 minutes. Heats up to 80° in the process. It needs fan controller software (fans cranked to max) to run cool and after a few months one of the fans sounds worn. Stopped actively using it once Big Sur came out and support for Mojave went away. At that time Dosdude1's patches were very rudimentary and full of graphical glitches. I might upgrade now that the patchers have been perfected.

  • @dingdong2103

    @dingdong2103

    7 ай бұрын

    @@glossymouse7712 There is something wrong wity your imac then, my 2007 imac runs Big Sur just fnie and everything runs smooth. Only loading times are abysmal since the SSD runs off the USB2.

  • @glossymouse7712

    @glossymouse7712

    7 ай бұрын

    @@dingdong2103 It runs as if it has an SSD and barely heats up above room temperature on OS X 10.9. and older. Something about the newer operating systems is messing it up. The speed of the HDD is roughly comparable to that of your SSD over USB. The OS is otherwise completely fine. If it was USB 3.0 I'd definitely get a USB drive, but as it is the only way to get more speed is to replace the HDD or ODD. Main problem is just the heat. Have you tried Mac fan control or some other software to monitor the heat? No way does yours not heat up. Maybe not to 80°, but 60 or so would be reasonable

  • @AnonymousFreakYT
    @AnonymousFreakYT7 ай бұрын

    I used Open Core to install Ventura on my 2009 MacBook Air. Haven't gotten around to upgrading to Sonoma on it yet, but it runs Ventura just fine! And it only has a 1.86 GHz Core 2 Duo and only _2_ GB of RAM. Now I just need to replace the battery, as it only holds about 15 minutes charge. Mine does have the original Apple SSD, though.

  • @marcallemandet3137
    @marcallemandet31377 ай бұрын

    Great vid, I use myself the same first gen Macbook Pro with Linux mint mate and a Monterey theme for linux, and most of the people are amazed by the reactivity. With only a 250 gig SSD, KZread is smooth at 720 P and enough for watching tutorials and clips. Of course It is not Mac OS but it is its little brother with OnlyOffice or Libreoffice, this will do the job without any issue. Thx I love your channel. Keep on the good job.

  • @SenileOtaku
    @SenileOtaku7 ай бұрын

    I had tried out OpenCore on my 2010 MacBook Pro (already running Catalina). The machine had already been bumped up to an unofficial 16G memory (with the memory upgrade from OWC), and I put Monterey on it. Ran perfectly fine, but I wasn't really thrilled with how it looked/worked. Not that I really do much with the machine anyway (it's mainly to give me the ability to run something on MacOS if I needed to), so I restored it back to Catalina. Maybe I'll re-try it with Ventura or Sonoma some day, and if it seems reasonable maybe I'll bump my daughter's MBP 2012 up from Catalina (it also has the OWC 16G upgrade).

  • @nougatsa
    @nougatsa7 ай бұрын

    It's very cool to see ! Thank you

  • @terraflops
    @terraflops3 ай бұрын

    wow! i have an old Macbook Air and was soon going to put Linux full install but this is possibly the coolest video i have seen in awhile.

  • @sonicunleashedfan124
    @sonicunleashedfan1247 ай бұрын

    Currently running Sonoma on a 2011 Mac Mini server (quad core i7, 16GB, and the Intel built-in graphics), and it runs really well for only (natively) supporting Macs from 2017 onwards, wish Apple supported Macs from that far back natively

  • @auteurfiddler8706
    @auteurfiddler87067 ай бұрын

    When the internal sound stopped working, did that include the headphone sound jack? I wonder what other computers sound won't work under Sonoma Open core documentation. I have an early 20 inch Intel IMac and I have been stuck on a really old OS and I want to use it for web and KZread.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo20037 ай бұрын

    OpenCore should be needed on my iMac…

  • @jeromethiel4323
    @jeromethiel43237 ай бұрын

    I watch this show just for the shenanigans. I am not a mac fan, and never will be, but i do enjoy people pushing old hardware to new levels. Keep on trucking. ^-^

  • @WackyT08
    @WackyT087 ай бұрын

    I run OCLP on my mid-2012 MacBook Pro, and am installing Sonoma on it this morning. It is a great free program for the Mac community! 👍

  • @raincs2
    @raincs27 ай бұрын

    using Sonoma on Macbook 2015 with Intel M processor and it runs great. It gets so hot and laggy for few hours but it solves the problem by itself and it runs really cool at the moment.. even with 1080p 60fps vids

  • @ericbauer4559
    @ericbauer45597 ай бұрын

    Im running Sonoma on both my mbp9,2 and macpro6,1. Universal control is still working nicely on the 13".

  • @jimcabezola3051
    @jimcabezola30517 ай бұрын

    I ran OpenCore Legacy macOS Monterey on my 2011 Mac Mini for 8 months. It worked very nicely. Now running Debian 12 on the 2011 Mac MIni. The Linux OS seems slightly smoother and a bit snappier than running Monterey, but Linux Mint has been running nicely. Also, I'm using Asahi Linux running on my M1 Mac Mini. I can ony get sound through Bluetooth, though...

  • @mediocrefunkybeat
    @mediocrefunkybeat7 ай бұрын

    I’ve been using OCLP on my 2013 13-inch Retina for the last 3 months or so and it’s been brilliant. Great bit of software.

  • @MyAmazingUsername
    @MyAmazingUsername7 ай бұрын

    Oh wow thanks for highlighting this. I was only aware of random MacDude1 patcher or whatever it's called. OpenCore sounds perfect for bringing life to my 2010 MacBook Pro.

  • @Realaudiosith
    @Realaudiosith7 ай бұрын

    Excellent comparison

  • @bobcarter6143
    @bobcarter61437 ай бұрын

    I have been running Opencore for a year now and have just upgraded both of our 2011 MacBook Pros (upgraded to SSDs) from Monterey to Ventura and they run really well. I would support Opencore’s recommendation to run the previous stable release until both Apple and Opencore have ironed out all of the bugs in the latest release.

  • @onejdc
    @onejdc7 ай бұрын

    I have the same older two laptops. The Non-unibody is basically DOA at the moment but I might try Sonoma. My MBAir is also the 2011 model and currently running Arch Linux with Hyprland. Performance is amazing. All buttons work correctly as well. My attempts to install Ventura failed miserably but I also didn't try the patcher. YMMV.

  • @Kermiitti
    @Kermiitti7 ай бұрын

    Great video! OpenCore is a wonderful software that most likely prevents a lot of e-waste. My early 2014 MacBook Air is still perfectly usable as a secondary machine, and I'd dare to say it does it a lot better than similar priced new Chromebooks could do! Did that old MacBook have a HDD? If so, would be interesting to see it updated and then compared.

  • @jeremytoms5163
    @jeremytoms51637 ай бұрын

    Currently running Monteray on a 20" early 2009 Imac using Open Core Legacy. I'll admit that before I did the upgrade I upgraded to 8GB ram and a 256gb SSD. Not saying I was sceptical but the SSD upgrade was so that I would still have the original drive if it all went pear shaped. Works surprisingly well, I only use it for office work and web browsing but it's a 100x better than it was. I found that Safari would stutter with youtube so tried Chrome. Much better as most of the media codecs are integrated into Chrome a lot more smoothly than Safari. VLC is great as a DVD player compared to Quicktime. Haven't looked into whether I can run the latest OS yet, think that might be pushing it a bit too far.

  • @auteurfiddler8706
    @auteurfiddler87067 ай бұрын

    I wonder what the advantages and disadvantages would be for a Mac Pro 5,1. Compared to Mohave. Would wifi still work ?

  • @RichardiOS275
    @RichardiOS2757 ай бұрын

    It's amazing how well this thing is handling it performance may be on par with recent Celeron N4020 laptops

  • @braddl9442
    @braddl94427 ай бұрын

    I found when pushing to 1080p it takes like 15 to 30 seconds to buffer the video on older macs with OCLP. But once its got it loaded it goes smooth on 2010 and up. Once the browser is open it should load most stuff well.

  • @evanmair
    @evanmair7 ай бұрын

    1. Do not bother using on a computer without a SSD boot drive - mechanical drives can't keep up. And max out the RAM if you can! 2. You won't be able to boot the USB to install the patched Sonoma unless you have already installed the OpenCore EFI on the target machine ('Build and Install OpenCore' option in the patcher app). 3. If your install (or macOS patch update) hangs 1/3 through the final boot, restart in safe mode by holding down SHIFT (You might get the error reporter - if so, reboot into safe mode a second time). That will get you to the desktop and then you can re-install the OpenCore patches. 4. In Settings->Accessibility->Display turn on 'Reduce Motion' and 'Reduce transparency' for machines with integrated Intel HD Graphics. 5. Install 'iStat Menus' to better control the fans based on CPU temp.

  • @mangna
    @mangna7 ай бұрын

    I have this 17" version of the non unibody Mac and for a time it ran Ventura. The only issues I had was installing the OS and inside the OS the internal DVD wouldn't work but, other than that it ran great.

  • @Jonilive
    @Jonilive7 ай бұрын

    Nice one, just curious about when the os updates, does it breaks anything?

  • @JosephM101
    @JosephM1017 ай бұрын

    That 2007 MacBook Pro, I can tell immediately, has a GPU that does not support Metal. You cannot run Metal apps, but things like blur are (kinda) fixed thanks to the SkyLight project. Say, for a few graphical glitches here and there. OC is actually forcing macOS to use OpenGL, a graphics framework which became fully deprecated with Catalina in favor of the new Metal API. If you look into how OCLP does this, it's actually really cool!

  • @Realford.gaming
    @Realford.gaming7 ай бұрын

    Can you install open core app thing on a windows pc or does it have to be a Mac?

  • @Incidental104
    @Incidental1046 ай бұрын

    Does iMessage and FaceTime work? and is there any way to upgrade the ram and add SSD? I really wanna see that

  • @cliff8928
    @cliff89287 ай бұрын

    I have this machine just sitting around with my older powerbooks and was wondering how it would work with OCLP, If i only had the original CTO 2.6 GHz logic board instead of a replacement from when the video output failed. I have 5 other machines running Sonoma via OCLP successfully, the only one with video processing defects is the trash can.

  • @songsan807
    @songsan807Ай бұрын

    I do have the exact 11 inch macbook that I was thinking of putting OCL and just got a 15 inch 2015 to try this. Would be a great learning experience. Always wanted to see a real comparison of a mac upgraded to OCL and a newer mac with Sanoma running side by side. And now I have seen it. Thanks.

  • @chriswatt2702
    @chriswatt27027 ай бұрын

    This was a useful video for me. I am considering how to spec my first Mac mini after exiting windows. (Base plus 10g Ethernet and with a 10g NAS later it should outlast my windows pcs.)

  • @danielchamorro76
    @danielchamorro767 ай бұрын

    Our macbook pro 2010 admits 16 Gb but has not increased speed puting that amount of memory. Maybe because the ssd launch 150 MB/sg in blackmagic speed app? Maybe another modern ssd will be faster? Or is not supported a higher speed for this macbook? My second question is that the movies purchased in itunes just closes when try to play it. Is this normal? Third question is blutooth does not swich on so I cant put the mouse. Thanks

  • @cal2127
    @cal21277 ай бұрын

    would open core legacy work in a virtualbox instal thats already running catalina?

  • @ajfurrell3744
    @ajfurrell37447 ай бұрын

    Ooo oooo! My core2duo is running windows cause i was cut off by apple!! I wonder if i did this would sonoma recognise the 6gb of ram or would it be still limited to the 4gb that apple says is the max?

  • @coooguy1
    @coooguy17 ай бұрын

    Ya been running opencore on my 2012 Mac mini for a while and have been blown away. I am buying a trash can Mac Pro and can’t wait to see how good it runs Sonoma.

  • @95Comics
    @95Comics7 ай бұрын

    Does this have to be done from a mac or can i do it on a linux or windows machine?

  • @DAMCARTER1
    @DAMCARTER125 күн бұрын

    While OCLP is amazing, this install isn’t that simple on a mid 2009 MacBook Pro 15. It stops at the login screen when updating from the update option in system preferences and at the setup screen when doing a clean install because the keyboard and mouse isn’t supported. The thing is I connected a 3.0 usb hub and then connected an external keyboard and mouse to it and still it does not respond. How did you get to install Sonoma on such an old unsupported MacBook?

  • @jamesfryman
    @jamesfryman7 ай бұрын

    Hey! This one helped me personally! I’ve got a MacBookPro10,1 that I can’t install new macOS on… and it’s a shame it shouldn’t. Giving this a go today. Thanks Action Retro!

  • @Lococrazy300
    @Lococrazy3007 ай бұрын

    Did you Instal Mac OS Monterey Ventura or Big Sur on a 2006 Max that is Unsupported

  • @mcdazz2011
    @mcdazz20117 ай бұрын

    This is really impressive. I'm going to have give it a go.

  • @jasonknox1399
    @jasonknox13997 ай бұрын

    Great Video!..time to pull out my old MacBook pros and throw Sonoma on them!

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu7347 ай бұрын

    It's nothing short of wonderful that the folks behind this are helping us to run current software on machines that arem supposedly, "out of date", but have 2.3 GHz multi-core CPUs...11 year old Mini still stone reliable (although it seems to need a re-boot more often, with an SSD than it did with the original "spinner") Funny thing, i'm not so wild about the newest OS, but need to update to keep running other software!

  • @LefterisEl
    @LefterisEl6 ай бұрын

    Can I update my MacBook Air mid'13 that runs Mojave, to Sonoma using this method? Will future updates break the boot patch?

  • @doq
    @doq7 ай бұрын

    I had to replay 11:39 several times just because those two clocks were just about perfectly in sync and that was too satisfying.

  • @zaremol2779

    @zaremol2779

    7 ай бұрын

    They're both connected to an NTP server, nothing impressive about it

  • @doq

    @doq

    7 ай бұрын

    Even with NTP it's still quite difficult to get two clocks *that* in sync without something like an atomic sync.

  • @TheDuumiMuumi
    @TheDuumiMuumi7 ай бұрын

    I just installed Sonoma to early 2009 iMac 20-inch, with SSD it's totally usable! That thing also needs keyboard and mouse connected to an USB hub for them to work.

  • @zerocks88
    @zerocks887 ай бұрын

    whats the max ram of the old macbook, curious how itd go with like 8gb or something more modern sounding-an amount

  • @TheSillyDoggo
    @TheSillyDoggo7 ай бұрын

    This was just what i was looking for. I needed xcode for my 2011 macbook

  • @poppadomia
    @poppadomia7 ай бұрын

    Just installed Monterey on an old 4,1 MBP, was always running with 6G ram, added in an SSD. Had the same reboot issue as you - my technique was to put a weight on the Alt key so it would go through EFI. may try upgrading to Sonoma now.

  • @aspinx
    @aspinx7 ай бұрын

    Will it install Xcode from the store? Also, what about macOS updates?

  • @zerocks88
    @zerocks887 ай бұрын

    wooow I can't believe how well its working thats incredible

  • @appleinfl
    @appleinfl7 ай бұрын

    Seeing the original MacBook Pro called a legacy machine makes me feel old. They were so revolutionary when new.

  • @MacintoshLibrarian
    @MacintoshLibrarian7 ай бұрын

    yayyy! a cameo by me at @10:33 !

  • @codyzelmer
    @codyzelmer7 ай бұрын

    does open core have to be installed on a previously blank Mac?? I have a Mac Pro 5,1 that I already have stuff on, and i dont want to wipe it just to do this

  • @creandomentes
    @creandomentes7 ай бұрын

    How you install Sonoma in the old one that will be great I changa my old mac to linux because the latest OS is el Capitan andI cant do anything on it.

  • @mmatej16
    @mmatej167 ай бұрын

    Does everything work on the 2012 Macbook Air? Great video btw

  • @arturziejewski9179
    @arturziejewski91796 ай бұрын

    These polish YT videos suggestions... make me wonder :D Nice content, as usual!

  • @WesleyNixon
    @WesleyNixon7 ай бұрын

    Open Core Legacy patcher is awesome! Im currently daily driving a 2011 MacBook Pro on Ventura.

  • @AntonandSinan
    @AntonandSinan6 ай бұрын

    That MacBook Pro was my first Apple MacBook. It was such a gorgeous machine to use. Loved it.

  • @yemetrica
    @yemetrica7 ай бұрын

    oh my this is the exact old mac i use for my music library i see this as an absolute win

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu7 ай бұрын

    Woah how relevant - I want to do this on my now ancient and obsolete 2017 MacBook 12” !

  • @BrianJones-wk8cx
    @BrianJones-wk8cx7 ай бұрын

    Love my mid-2007 MBP, that keyboard is thought to beat! It’s a shame my model falls just outside of the OCLP support window.

  • @inteluser1
    @inteluser17 ай бұрын

    Very impresive!

  • @jared1238
    @jared12387 ай бұрын

    Open Core is awesome! It kept my old MacBook Pro 2013 running Monterey which would’ve been fine if it wasn’t for the mosfet issue. Might try it on a 2011 iMac

  • @busterj11776
    @busterj117767 ай бұрын

    Great post, will try on my 2011 macbook pro

  • @johnny14794
    @johnny147947 ай бұрын

    I have a Macbook late 2009 6,1 and installed Sonoma using OCLP last night. It installed without a hitch except now Bluetooth not working. Tried everything possible to get the Bluetooth to work and no joy. With Monterey Bluetooth was working.

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