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the mako3 is probably my favorite disc. The fact that you can just pick a point 250 feet out and throw a laser beam straight at it is so valuable. It's also an awesome tool to check your form and is great if you're trying to get better. Everyone should have one.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

That was exactly our thought process when recommending this disc. Many people will say it’s too understable or “finicky”, but that’s the point. When you form is on and you need to throw a laser beam, there really is no other disc. Great that you agree! 👌

@jaysantos11

3 жыл бұрын

My Mako flies straight as an arrow

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

@Jim John Marks the buzzz just has better stability. You can throw it with a bit of speed and it can still fly straight and have a slight fade back. Mako3 is a bit more touchy but it holds your release angle better at slower speeds.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

I hear what you are saying. For myself, the flight characteristics of the Buzzz and Roc3 are pretty similar, which is why I think they get compared. The molds are definitely different though as you say. My wife and I will be doing a comparison video in the near future, so look out for it!

As a beginner, the Mako3 would be my disc of choice in a one disc only round.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Even for more experienced players, the Mako3 is a great one round disc. So many options for shot shapes and its slow enough to be used decently as a putter.

@joshk8316

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I agree can’t wait to scoop one up 🤘🏽

@caseybunker4521

3 жыл бұрын

My goto is a r pro rhino

@michaelmccourt4992

2 жыл бұрын

I just got into the game and my first disc was a Star Mako3.

@RobertHanz

2 жыл бұрын

Mako3 is awesome. For a beginner, it will show you what you’re doing. For everyone else, it’s incredibly neutral in it’s sweet spot for distance.

The Mako 3 may be the most underrated disc out there. It forces the newer and experienced player to develop the proper release angles. Easy to grip as well. Thx for the video!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Daryl Capen Could not agree more! That’s why I feel most players would benefit from the disc. Everyone needs a straight flying discs for those tight gaps/moments where you can afford much turn or fade!

Jawbreaker is a baseline plastic type for discraft. It’s not actually a mold

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s a plastic type for mostly putters (should have been more clear). If I were to recommend a specific one, it would be the magnet or challenger

@jamegumb2353

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc jawbreaker buzz is a putter?

@zachwoolard3260

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc it’s not putter exculsive

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

@@zachwoolard3260 true, but it’s mainly seen with their putters

@flipflat4814

2 жыл бұрын

@@zachwoolard3260 Do you know if any stores have any in stock still? I missed the boat on that one. However l have a feeling Jawbreaker Buzzz's would come out puddle top from the factory. If I'm right l would pass if that were true. Now the weird thing is l don't mind my Jawbreaker Zone's being puddle top, because l'm not looking for glide in a zone!

I love it when you said "The Discraft Jawbreaker"

Putters are so interchangeable. You could get the basic putter from just about any brand and have the same result. The important part is the feel in your hand.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s really what works best for you!

@flipflat4814

2 жыл бұрын

Totally true!

People hear sidewinder and put it in the roller only category. It is a fantastic max distance air shot disc for all arm speeds!!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

For sure! If you get it in champion plastic at max weight, and it won’t be too understable 👍

@johnetches9741

3 жыл бұрын

Warning about Sidewinders; the most inconsistent disc I have ever experienced in all the years I have played disc golf. I own 7 Sidewinders, and no two discs are the same. To be clear, and what is the most confusing, is that the flight variations have NOTHING to do with weight or plastic. I have a 159 g sidewinder that I cannot turn over if I try my hardest, then a 165 g that will flip terribly if I put a moderate pull on it. Then another 165 g that will fade like a Boss. If you are a beginner, don’t buy a Sidewinder, because you are likely to be confused and misled. The reason I own seven Sidewinders? Because the first one I owned, I liked, and in an attempt to have a spare one on hand, I got duped into buying more until I found one that flew the same as the one I liked. After buying six more, I have not been able to duplicate the one that I like, and again, none of the seven Sidewinders are the same as any of the others. This has not been a problem with any other discs that I have owned. When I eventually lose the Sidewinder I like, I will be moving on to another mold, and never buy another Sidewinder. Brutal.

@RowdyRascal420

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnetches9741 had a similar experience. Had one as a staple in my bag for years, when I lost I ran through 5 more without ever being able to get one I liked.

@kiruuttori8539

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnetches9741 thank you, I was just thing of getting one as a beginner, still might but it seems its not the disc im looking for.

@marcsandias2758

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I had read your post long ago. Two years ago "won" a league ctp and that was the disc obtained for said. Left it in bag and periodically threw it trying to figure out the roller. Fast forward to losing a disc on a round (common for me) and turning to the sidewinder for forehand throws. Stunned that it just went so straight (the glide) and only broke about what half of my boss throws do at the end. Now I throw it both back and fore. Which makes it odd given I throw 7 speeds best back and 11/12 speeds fore (am over 60 thus the lack of snap).

This video made me discoverer True North Disc Golf, I work close by and I didn't know there was a real disc golf store in the region ! So Happy to know about them now !!!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a great store, pretty much anything you could want 👌

That wall light is awesome!!

Great advice...a friend recently got a Sidewinder and we were both blown away with throws and additional distance he was able to produce with the disc!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Holden Byler Yeah its great disc for sure! Effortless distance for beginners, and big swinging shots/rollers for pros. It’s a win win! And thanks for the comment Holden! By the way, please message me on Instagram or email (justdiscjd@gmail.com). I’ve got a nice surprise for you! 👌

@johnetches9741

3 жыл бұрын

Warning about Sidewinders; the most inconsistent disc I have ever experienced in all the years I have played disc golf. I own 7 Sidewinders, and no two discs are the same. To be clear, and what is the most confusing, is that the flight variations have NOTHING to do with weight or plastic. I have a 159 g sidewinder that I cannot turn over if I try my hardest, then a 165 g that will flip terribly if I put a hard pull on it. Then another 165 g that will fade like a Boss. If you are a beginner, don’t buy a Sidewinder, because you are likely to be confused and misled. The reason I own seven Sidewinders? Because the first one I owned, I liked, and in an attempt to have a spare one on hand, I got duped into buying more until I found one that flew the same as the one I liked. After buying six more, I have not been able to duplicate the one that I like, and again, none of the seven Sidewinders are the same as any of the others. This has not been a problem with any other discs that I have owned. Brutal.

@bottomingoutsniper3925

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnetches9741 what plastic is it in?

Excellent. I had the Mako3 on my wishlist, I'll have to consider the other 2. Smash.

Ive hit multiple aces with both the base model and gstar sidewinder. Love it.

Thoughtfully reasoned and well produced. As for the beginner bag of Aviar-Mako3-Sidewinder, there's a lot to recommend it. I'd even go so far as to say it's a better beginner bag than the usual Innova starter kit of Aviar-Shark-Leopard. Well done.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Robert! We thought hard about what would work for all skill levels and we are glad that you noticed that. We will be doing another “3 disc everybody should have” in the near future which won’t include only Innova. Thanks for being a part of this community 👍

One of my favorite discs is the aviar, I actually have the 2 chain version and even though it's worth a lot of money I like it to much to get rid of it.

Definitely an improvement, can tell you were arming the disc a lot more in 2020. You got a lot more power you can tap into. I'd say 2 things you could work on next is first, don't look backwards too early, you want to keep the back foot square, coil on the very last step and reach "out". Second is, you're looking forwards at release and spinning out, so focus on looking at around 9-o-clock until the disc is gone. Really slam into your front foot, keep your head still, stay behind the hit, and let your momentum bring your head up and finish balanced on that front foot. You can work on it when you're just chillin at home. Cheers!

@JustDisc

7 ай бұрын

Love the feedback Ben, thanks for the tips to work on further improving! 👍 Not sure if I’ll ever be able to “slam” into my front foot as much as others, mainly due to my torn (and now repaired) ACL. I almost feel that I now instinctively try to avoid pivoting too much into my right knee :p Still going to work on those great tips though, thanks again ❤️👍

I have all three. They work! The sidewinder is hands down my favorite disc! I have 3 of them lol

JD... great videos, great presentation... especially for a new player like myself... you’re a great teacher!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Clay! We are having a blast making them and we greatly appreciate your comment. It’s people like you that keep us going! 👍❤️

I bought a mako3 a few months back and it's my favorite disc i've ever had. As a beginner it feels really rewarding to throw a good shot with that compared to something else. On other discs i feel that there has to be some "luck" involved, because it's hard to release them on the exact angle and get them to turn at the exact moment you want it to turn. But the Mako3 just goes where ever you aim whether it's on a Hyzer/Anny/Straight.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experience Hemlig! It’s a great disc for any skill levels, but it’s especially great for learning proper form. All around great disc that every should have! 👌

@bonniebankston9974

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just now getting back into frisbee golf disc throwing I'm Jason Falcon 76 FalconXstreaM fastest motocross Supercross one of greatest Freestyle Motocross racers I shattered both my legs on 1 20 01 but Highland park disc golf park longest driveways in the world Baton Rouge louisiana is my park. Being 6'8 really helps alot not trying to brag but I love to teach when you want best throws for proper body English y'all want to put your disc as far out from yourself then as you step and roll y'all's body make sure your other arm is wrapped around your back for better control and no arm body drag but frisbees only go as far as a person can spin it. I've realized that when I barley loft my disc it really floats when doing a side throw but I'm the only person in the history of frisbee golf disc to throw a frisbee golf disc to the end of Pensacola Beach Pier 800 feet standing on the shore and it shoot up 800 feet and come back and catch it at 140 mph on the back side grab with motocross gloves on. Plus I've invented alot of hardcore Freestyle Motocross tricks and surfing skim boards and been the 1st to do many things. I love seeing other's in this awesome hobby/sport.

Over the last year I have incorporated all of these (plus the Caiman and Wraith!) into my bag and found ALL of them irreplaceable. Incredible discs and just stellar recommendations.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so nice to hear you say that Eric! We appreciate you enjoying the discs we’ve recommended. That’s exactly our intentions, and we’re glad they’ve work out for someone like you. Thanks for the feedback 👍❤️

Judge is the disc I recommend to everyone starting disc golf ! Since I switched to Judges as my putting putter, approach disc, and driving putter-I have seen a great drop in scoring average and I have thrown my first 2 Aces ! The discs you described here are great as well! But Judge is my favorite ! Nice review !!!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John! You are right, the judge is another excellent choice 👌

I bag all three 😂. I used to use the regular Aviar but have switched to the kc pro, and I’ve loved the star mako for my straight shots, and my champion sidewinder my forehand and backhand turn over disc.

I totally agree with you about the Mako3. That disc is fantastic! I have it in G Star plastic because Champion plastic is too overstable. It loses it's arrow straight quality in Champion. The Sidewinder is OK, but I got rid of mine because I discovered the Roadrunner. My Star Roadrunner is far better than my Star Sidewinder was. Straighter flight, longer distance, better feel. I love the Roadrunner. I haven't tried out any Aviar putters yet. I put pretty well with the Judge and the Deputy (Dynamic Discs) and the Wizard (SSS & SSSS) by Gateway Discs. Another disc I think that is an absolute must is the Innova Mamba. This baby has glide for days and being understable, it is great for beginners and intermediate players. Champion Mambas are more overstable than Star or G Star. I find the Mamba and the Leopard are my "Desert Iland discs." I could not live without them.

sidewinder is the GOAT it was the first disc i could consistently throw

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly why we recommended it for all skill levels!

This is a really well done video. I like your approach and how you mentioned similar alternatives for the putters. Sidewinder, great disc for beginner drivers

@JustDisc

11 ай бұрын

Appreciate the comment Peter! We’ve got lots to videos just like this one. And don’t forget to check out Part 2 and Part 3 when you get a chance! 😎👍

Nice video. I may be wrong but I believe Jawbreaker is a type of plastic and not a putter mold.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Loren Hagen You are right! It’s actually the plastic type for their putting line. Appreciate the feedback!

Have 2 of the 3. The Mako3 is one of my absolute favorites and close behind as a Midrange is the Saint. I have the Aviar as well but use the steady as my primary putter and as for fairway driver I love the Thunderbird, but will check out the Sidewinder for sure. Thanks for the great video.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David!

@adammontgomery9752

2 жыл бұрын

Thats a high speed midrange in the saint that thing bombs off the tee 300+

I agree I use all three. Great Video.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Adam!

Great video! Sidewinder is one of my go-to's for threading the needle forehands in the woods, rollers, and big annys! I always say if you want to learn clean release and good spin on a forehand, grab a sidewinder. It doesn't hide any flaws and won't correct for you like a firebird does.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

It’s true! We just recently did a video for the Falk and compared it with the Sidewinder… In the end, the Sidewinder is still the better disc. So many ways to use it and the performance is unmatched! 👌

I really had to go look for the Notes to find a 'not sponsored by innova' i was really surprised. ... picking up the fact that all 3 proposed so called best disks mentioned are from innova i was expecting this to be a secret sponsored video.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Sander! Yeah, it's not sponsored by Innova. The only reason for the TOP 3 was based on what I've used/had when the channel was just getting started. I didn't want to recommend something like the Buzz if I haven't thrown it consistently. We are doing PART 2 VERY SOON, which will include 3 DIFFERENT BRANDS. Be on the lookout! 👌

I just got into disc golf, and the Mako3 is one of the 3 disks I have. I got it after playing disc golf with my cousins, and we'd all fight over who gets to use it, since it flies so straight and it is so easy to throw.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

That’s so funny 😂. It’s a great disc! 👍

100% agree. I don’t currently putt with classic aboard but the mako3 and especially the sidewinder are staples in my bag

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

Love to hear it! Make sure you check out our other videos in the series, Part 2 & Part 3! 👍

When I first started I used the leopard, and I loved it.

Funny af that I have all three of those discs in my bag. And I run them All. The. Time.

Had a sidewinder way back when. Found it in a creek! I also find the Flying Squirrel flies similar to the Mako3.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Never tried or even heard of it but thanks for letting us know!

Everyone needs a Berg.

Judge, Mako3, River are the three I could not live without.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

All great discs!

Oui oui, ils sont super ces discs! :)

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Oui ils sont! On va faire une autre vidéo de 3discs à l’avenir, alors restez à l’écoute! 👍

I use the mako3 nonstop. a must have.

I know that course!!! I've played it in Paris a few times, cool to see a hole I recognise right away! :D

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

That’s right Matthew! If you see us on the course, don’t be shy to say hello 👋

@sciencegeek1997

2 жыл бұрын

Will do! It's nice to know you're local.

Great video. Gave the Aviar a go, but the one I tried was too light for me, so my experience with it wasn't good. I am a big fan of the Wardens and Judges, but as you say, they get really beat up with that DX plastic. For me the touch on those discs makes for a lot of confidence at mid and close range putts. I also use them for forehand approaches at 50 - 150 feet on some occasions. I'd argue that the Dart in the Star plastic is a great putt approach disc that a lot of golfers should look at. It is a dome top putter, which I know is a turn off for some people. I tend to get a bit tense on the longer 50 foot plus putts, and end up either early releasing or overcompensating with my Judges and Wardens, discs I love on shorter putts. I know from throwing my Dart Stars in lots of situations that I need to dial back the throw even for longer putts, which helps me keep my form better. I also like the Dart Stars on days when I am dropping my Judge and Warden putts low on shorter putts, maybe because of nerves, maybe because of conditions. The Dart Stars help me overcome this tendency and get me back on track. I am very keen to pick up a Mako when I get back to the States in December. My golfing buddy has two of them and absolutely loves them. He's more of a power thrower than me and likes heavier weights, but those 5 extra grams he has with his discs make a big difference when I try and throw them. I'd like to have a Maco in 167-169 grams to see how I do with it. I am very curious about the Sidewinder, a disc that I have heard about but still haven't had a chance to throw. My go to drivers for different situations are the Shryke, the Wraith, and the Katana. The way you describe this disc make me feel that the Sidewinder could fit well in that repertoire. I will definitely look to get one or two when I am back Stateside. Thanks again for an awesome video!

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

No problem Phillip, it's our pleasure! The Dart is definitely an excellent disc and I used to use it constantly not too long ago (now replaced with the Berg). It has incredible glide, is great for spin putts, and can hold anhyzer lines beautifully! Anyways thanks for providing your thoughts on the suggested discs! Are there any other you'd recommend?

Excellent!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark!

I love your show, you are great! I recognize the course at 1:50! La fortune right? Thanks for the great video and advice

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Iain, we appreciate the feedback. And yes LaFortune! 🙌 It’s a beautiful course

The Sidewinder was my first disc that I used to limit overhand distance. 👍

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

It’s a great disc. I’m thinking of bringing it back into my back 👍

Absolutely true all of it

I love my Mako!

@JKing6944

3 жыл бұрын

I 2nd that statement

@Tony-Jabroni

2 жыл бұрын

I love your mako

1:49 jesus that basket is high

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

If you miss, you most often get a bogey! 🤪

As a putter I prefer DiscMania P2, it is actually pretty close to Aviar, and Aviar is also very good disc. I just got Mako3 as a christmas present, and i look out to spring to test the disc on fields.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

P2s are popular for a reason! And you can’t go wrong with a Mako3, even as you get better 👍

Champion Boss, champion excalibur, star teebird!

Jason Falcon 76 my panther 171 grams can win any and all player's being 6'8 helps alot. Awesome to see other's throw 800 feet. Throws we all know 800 is a dream but possibly done from rollers after windsail after over throw 550 footers.

Great video! I bag all three of these discs. I'm currently contemplating switching the Mako3 out for the Atlas, because it feels like the slight fade leads to more predictable flights. Have you thrown an Atlas?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yes I have thrown an Atlas and it is more stable/predictable. I’m personally not a fan of it due to the unique rim and the lesser glide. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad disc though, just not for me :) Personally, I would suggest the King Cobra. Its so stable for a 4 speed and has nice consistent slight fade at the end. It’s basically like a beaten in Roc3 or just a straight up Buzz. I love it and have been using it for years. May even do a video on it since I find it keeps almost any line I put on it. Hope this helps! 👍

@DaviatorMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Try the Gateway Prophecy

Early in my disc golf days I found a sidewinder in the wild (no name or phone number on it) - and lost it this summer. Needless to say I got a new one!

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Great disc! 🙌

used to bag the Star Aviar, don't know why exactly I swapped it out, but I put with a westside shield these days, something about the tournament plastic just feels great... Have a Mako3 in the bag for soft straight shots or hyzer flips and turnover shots and when I need more stability in my midrange I pull out the Roc3. Also used to bag a roadrunner which I honestly loved for long hyzer flips etc, but I turned it over too much not long ago and it sailed away over the treetops never to be seen again. Some other highly recommended discs tho I would say are the Westside Underworld, Latitude Explorer and Innova Wraith. The underworld flies great, great glide and allows you to really work your angles, if you need a straight shot, but can't reach with a mid, just flip the underworld up and it goes dead straight , and if you need it to turn over you can just put a little more power into it. The explorer is just a really solid straight flying fairway with a consistent flight. It can handle alot of power and the smaller but deeper than usual rim makes it feel great in your hand. Despite being a 7 speed disc I can almost bomb that thing out as far as my distance drivers it's amazing. And last but note least the wraith, just a great distance driver, flips up and holds a slight turn untill it gets a reliable fade at the end. I've personally started throwing some faster discs lately as my technique and armspeed has improved, but the wraith is still my go to...

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insight! - I pretty much do the same with my Mako3. If I need more stability I go for my King Cobra or Roc3 -I’ve heard good things about the explorer, but I have yet to try it! -And the wraith is now my favourite driver by far. I’ve literally bought another 3 so I think I now have something like 7-8 of them lol (only carry 2 though). It’s just a disc that can do so much and is the perfect speed for my throw. Love it! We did a review on that disc if you haven’t checked it out 👍

How do you know what size to get for the innova aviar putt & approach? Never played disc golf before.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

There is only one size of Aviar in terms of diameter, but it comes in several different plastic types/molds. If you are new, I would just stick with the classic DX Aviar (Dx referring to the type of plastic). It’s the cheapest, the most comfortable and a good way to get started! Here is the Amazon link of the disc I’m talking about www.amazon.ca/dp/B00611Y2N8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_2W44PJHM2617BK5BKB1J?psc=1 Hope this helps! 👍

3 bergs done

I throw a truth and it is pretty broken in but when I first got it it was a lazer

I bought my 180gm Star Mako3 because of this video. It’s my favorite disc. I got 3 Birdies with it yesterday and was offered any 2 discs in another players bag for it. I said “Hell No!”

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, we are glad you are enjoying the disc! ❤️

Didn't know jawbreaker was a putter haha

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not lol. It’s just the type of plastic :p

I enjoyed the video and looked at the discs recommended. How do you select the best weight in these discs?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

It’s all really dependant on your skill level/experience, but I can help!:). What do you typically shoot, how far do you throw on and how long you been playing?

@ExploreThe50

3 жыл бұрын

A brand new course just opened within walking distance from my home. I have not really thrown much since college, 30 plus years ago. I played what we used to call “frisbee golf” in college. I can see myself playing the course on the days I’m not biking so 2 - 3 days a week.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

@@ExploreThe50 Well, as a general rule, anything below 5-6 speed I would get max weight (which is anywhere from 175g to 180). Usually putters are 175 and mid ranges (like the Mako3) are 180. As for fairway drivers to drivers, I would stick to 165-170 ranges, especially if you are older and/or haven’t thrown in awhile. Hope this helps! 👍😁

@ExploreThe50

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

I prefer P2 over aviar but i really like aviarx3 for some throws but my luster c line p2 is better in my opinion. I had mako3 and i hated it so much i always flipped it and never got right angle so i gave it away. The sidewinder is very nice altought i dont habe it in my bag my understable fairway is essence i really like it for those straight to slightly right turning throws

I feel like the Star Atlas from Innova is an underrated disc, I prefer it to a Mako3 any day of the week! I started out with a Mako3, but changed it to an Atlas later on.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Atlas is a great disc, definitely underrated 👍

a paradox is a really good utility disc

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

We’ll check it out!

Have the Mako3 and also the Discraft Buzzz! Love both these discs.... however I often come to a shot and am tossing and turning over which of these discs to use. Wondering if for confidence reasons I should take one of them out of my bag? I like both these discs.... any reason why I should have both in my bag? I mean as far as I can tell (and I am newer to DG) they are used for the same shot. Any tips or advice would be appreciated!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

We love these types of questions! If you feel they both do the exact same thing, then take one of them out. If however you find that one of them acts a little different, like for instance, the buzz doesn’t turn over as easy or has more of a fade finish, then it’s a good idea to have both. If you need more clarification, let us know!

@krustyrustie

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc great.... thank you!

I think a typical Innova starter pack is great for beginners and those discs can become invaluable tools and reusable molds as the person gains more experience and perhaps wants to upgrade plastic type. I also prefer the Mako3 to the Shark because it's more neutral, which (like the Aviar) can be a great training tool over time. The Leopard I think is also great because for beginners it's not understable for them, and will allow them to get max distance, and in time they can upgrade to faster and more overstable discs, but the Leopard can still have a lot of use for forehand (most people don't throw as far with that as they do backhand. The DX Aviar is still my primary putter, and Star Leopard still my primary driver, though I sometimes use a Gazelle or TeeBird when I want something a little more stable. Lastly the FD is really good as a neutral driver, between the TeeBird and Leopard.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was actually considering recommending the leopard3 over the sidewinder for this video, but I had just gotten a leopard3 and did not have enough practice and video clips to recommend it. It’s an awesome disc and I think everybody should carry one! As for the the FD, I haven’t tried one, but it’s interesting that you mention it would fit between the teebird and leopard. Thanks for the insight!

@FartsTasteDelicious

3 жыл бұрын

Wraith, Harp, and basically any putter would be a perfect starting trio. Imo it’s worth a few extra dollars considering the tremendous improvement in plastic and overall disc quality.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Good advice!

DGA breaker has shed many strokes off My game

I have an origin and I like it. As a beginner should I get another midrange like mako3?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not. If it flies straight for you and it’s getting the job done, there is no reason to get the Mako3. 👍

Mako3 solid disc 1st year golfer. After a year its worked its way out of my bag. My top 3 backhand is tournament plastic sword. Tourny warship and a prodigy pa-1 in 300 soft top 3 forehand lucid enforcer lucid justice and gateway devilhawk in hemp blend aka the better slammer

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Yeah, the Mako3 has now become my midrange utility disc 👍

I have a Mako3 and a Sidewinder in the bag. I don't like Aviars as putters but prefer Proxys by MVP. I use the Mako3 for straight shorter shots that I don't want to fade or slide a long way (OB water long etc..) and the Sidewinder for straighter or longer wooded shots that don't have a backstop. If you like throwing putters you really don't need a Mako3 because it's just not a long range disc (I dont like throwing putters long). I think every beginner should bag a sidewinder though. If you don't like Mako3s you should look at a Truth (non Emax) because I find they fly very similarly once a Truth is beat in.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input Jay!

My beginner 3 would be: Putter, literally any that is in your price range and feels nice in your hand. They are so similar that unless you're an advanced/pro player you won't throw the minute differences. Midrange, Mako3 or even a Buzzz because of the subtle to no turn/fade that a newer player will appreciate developing technique and consistency with. Driver, honestly nope. But if you insist on beginning with drivers something no greater than a 9 speed. A River or T-Bone are nice neutral discs for example. Now if you don't care for technique and want to just have fun and play, pick the ones that feel good or look cool and have at it! It is just a fun game with friends for most of us after all

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Great advice Cade! Thanks for sharing 👍

The Sidewinder if not that then use the Valkyrie in the plastic you want provided the disc is not in the super stiff possibly illegal stiff Champion plastic or even a Star run like this or a disc that is flat to slightly concave for a beginner. The flat to slightly concave Valkyrie disc will fly more OS like a worn in Eagle or that of a new Viking, I use a Star in the flat to micro concave for a Windier Valkyrie then my Glow Champion when going that flight then have a Messed up Champion Archon for more wind due to virtually no glide on the mold so the disc flies on the Valkyrie flight I need for wind but have a Star Archon for throwing my longest consistent knowing where the disc is going shot. One not mentioned is the Glide for the same reason the Mako/Mako 3 is used by others or the Wombat/3 by other players, to get the disc to fly in those tight gaps that nothing else will work or some longer tunnel shots. Similar disc I use is OOP with several backup Impact at the 170-172 and 173-174 gram weight sets with one 175 gam disc since those under 169 grams and the Impact over 170 grams do not work for throwing unless over powering .

The Invader has been in my bag since release.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! What do you like about it? Never tried it personally

@TherealPapaDogP

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc I have it two plastics-luster champion and DX. I prefer harder plastics to putt with. I enjoy that it’s flat topped and flies straight with less fade and more speed than the Aviar-which itself is a great putter. I find that the Invader isn’t as easily affected by the wind.

Good picks. I started with an Aviar for putting, moved to Judge and then to a JB Roach, but keep the heavier Aviar for windy approach over my lighter Mako. I'll have to try a Sidewinder, but so far have never been happy with Champion plastic - way to overstable for my slower arm speed.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

My friend loves his sidewinder in the star plastic for anhyzer and rollers. I’m sure the star plastic would better suit you, especially in another weight! Looking at doing another one of these videos in the future and I want to include the buzz, leopard3 and one another disc. Any suggestions?

@brokenrecord3523

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc you've about named my whole bag - Big Z Buzz, Pro Leopard, but a couple others I wouldn't be without: Champion Roc3, Prime Escape (they get beat up fast, but I like this plastic for an escape) and a 150g G Star Katana (forehands and drives and is very forgivable). I just love my Tern, but there always seems to be a better choice.

@beatlesrgear

3 жыл бұрын

I've thrown 5 or 6 different discs in Champion plastic and every one of them goes about 20 metres and crashes into the ground. I hate Champion plastic. When I throw discs in Star or G Star plastic, the sail for a good distance and go where I want them. Those are my favourite plastics and all of my Innova discs are Star or G Star. BTW: I just got an RPM Piwakawaka in Atomic plastic and I love it. Atomic plastic is very close to Star plastic.

@brokenrecord3523

3 жыл бұрын

@@beatlesrgear I get ya. I'm on my third year playing and one week ago today my throw came together, seriously, as if by magic I can now pull straight through. I gained 10m over my longest throws and that's at 2/3 power. My big bag of G Stars are flippy and I'm starting to replace them with some of my hated Champions. Just saying, keep them tucked away. You never know.

@beatlesrgear

3 жыл бұрын

@@brokenrecord3523 Hmmm...you've got me thinking now......

He's obviously a Innova Disc Guy.....Valkyrie , Wombat and Judge are in my opinion a go too 3 disc

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

It’s just one of our earlier videos when we only had Innova discs

Anyone like the Raven, it’s been my favourite forever. I’m not always comfortable switching, it tends to mess me up.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

We’ve never tried it!

Very good choices. Unpopular opinion though, I hate the way the mako feels in my hand and I use a panther instead.

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

All good! We completely understand 👍

The Mako 3 in star plastic was my first disc ever. Still have it in the bag and would still use it more if it didn't have so much sentimental value (need to get another I'm not afraid to lose). I love the flight of the Aviar but cannot stand the way it feels in my hand so I throw a Challanger. The Sidewinder is not a disc I would give a beginner it is too fast and really with it having such a good glide a beginner could probably throw a lighter (160ish gram) Mako 3 further than they could any Sidewinder.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Mike! Yeah a beginner would definitely throw a Mako3 further than a sidewinder, unless of course the sidewinder was a bit lighter. All depends on the player of course! :)

Im a beginner and the sidewinder wasnt available at my dicks sporting goods so i picked up the beast in champion plastic. I havent played a game tet but my forehand on the sidewinder is pretty accurate, so i wanted to get it but i couldnt. What are your thoughts on the beast by innova

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Great disc Gavin, no reason to worry! My dad and friend love their beast. It’s a great disc to grow and get better with. IMO, it’s a way better forehand disc than the sidewinder in the long run 👍

I have the dd judge putter dd escape fairway and the dd truth midrange

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Nice discs! 👍

I bag one of these in my bag. But its Yeti pro aviar (better grip), Star sidewinder (hello flippy, I prefer leopard3) and mako3 Star. Have you tried out Halo Mako3? I was curious about it But imeveryone I seen been very domey

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Never tried a Halo Mako3 yet, but we enjoy it in the champion to maintain better stability. For us, it’s kind of one of those discs that has a great straight flight right out of the box. Thus, getting it in the champion maintains its flight for as long as possible before having to replace it. But of course, that’s just our opinion!

Mako3 no question. Think the Valkyrie could have made it in there. Great utility disc.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

It is a great disc! 👍 We’ll be doing a 2nd version of the top 3 in the coming weeks so look out for it!

Roc, Aviar, Valkyrie

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

All amazing discs as well. If the disc choices weren't based on being usable for All Skill Levels, I would go Aviar, Teebird, Wraith

I would also recommend a escape

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Great disc!

I don’t like the mako3 maybe that’s an unpopular opinion. I’d rather throw a chariot for a straight midrange shot and a beat in chariot for hyzer flips to slight turn. And the caiman for all over stable mid range shots, it’s basically a faster zone with more glide, awesome disc.

Right now I have a Wombat is that like a mako? Also I have a roadrunner is that like the sidewinder? What are the biggest differences between them? Great video. It’s giving me more perspective for my game!

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nicholas! The Wombat and the Roadrunner are both more understable than the Mako and the Sidewinder. In other words, they are more beginner friendly. If you are throwing both discs and they aren’t burning out to the right too quickly, there is no reason to change!

If I wanted a more understable sidewinder for turn over shots should I get something like star plastic and like 170-172 weight?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

What do you currently use?

@Millertimez16

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t currently have a reliable understable disc for hyzer flips/ turnovers. I’m an intermediate player.

@Millertimez16

3 жыл бұрын

Was thinking maybe mamba, roadrunner or sidewinder

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Mamba and Sidewinder are both great choices. From my personal experience, the mamba is easier to turn over than the sidewinder, even though it’s 2 speeds higher. I think the star plastic for either or is a good choice. If you go with the mamba, don’t be afraid to go up a few grams and if you get the sidewinder, I think 170 -172 sounds pretty good! 👍

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

As for the roadrunner, I think it would just turn over too much for you, even at max weight

Love my pig

I personally like the buzzz much more than the msko3…. If I had to play a 3 disc round I’d use a judge, vroc & the buzzz…. Or maybe a foxbat instead of the vRoc

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

We definitely can’t argue with the Buzzz, it’s the best selling midrange for a reason! We put it in our part 2 video if you haven’t send it yet 👍

One I do not like is the Aviar due to the disc wing shape. I have found other putter Magent/Titanic in Proline for my putter mold and if they stopped both molds and I lost/wore out my molds, the Hydra beat in to fly more Magent like would be the mold I have for shorter shots and slightly longer would be Hydra nearer to new. The Shark now in bag for short midrange/approach to long putter shots that whole range and as driving putter would be taken out and would be using newer Hydra for the whole slot.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

My friend loves his hydra!

@caseysmith544

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc My Dad too when he played more, for some short shots that either his Rubber Putter by Lighting oop brand owned by Gotta Go Gotta Throw now or his old hard Unknown baseline Wizard for a driving putter, for approach too with all but the Wizard. The Wizard is hard to control distance wise for approach stuff since Wizard is very unique in that it can be used as a putter better then approach up to very long distances and actually running OS putts similar to the Rubber Putter where that is for straight line putting/approach but can do approach putting. Of all the putters he has I think the Wizard is first out of his bag since the mold is not great for anything except driving putter or a longer putter and he has other molds that do specific longer putter/OS putter or all around better since his main putting putter is so floppy the Ching Juju in Supreme.

i love your channel but have to disagree with your picks. Avair's are a classic pick but i think that putters need to be selected based on feel. As for the Mako3, I think a Roc3 would be a better pick, and for a driver i would pick a teebird or TL. My pick would all be in DX plastics so you can get used to those molds and start layering.

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

I hear ya Brian! We have a 2nd “3 discs every disc golfer should have Part 2” that will include a different brands of discs. As for the choices, remember that these disc choices are for ALL SKILL LEVELS. The sidewinder is debatable, but an aviar putter and Mako3 midrange are perfect, especially for beginners. Agreed that the Roc3 and Teebird are great all around choices, but not for a beginner

Brand new to DG and am overwhelmed where to start? how many discs should I have? Where to start??? help?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Trail, thanks for asking! I would honestly recommend getting a starter pack that gives you 3 discs to start. It’s the perfect way to learn the game without over complicating things. Check them out! infinitediscs.com/Products/Starter-Sets?tag=0822d82a

@TheTrailDancer

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc If you had three discs to purchase.. (I'm a side thrower).. which three would you recommend?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

It really depends on how hard you throw, your form, etc. It would be something where I’d have to see a few of your throws to recommend some discs. But if there is any disc I would recommend starting with, it would be the Mako3. And if there was any starter set I would recommend starting with, it would be the Discmania Evolution 3 disc set. Hope this helps! :)

0:43 INNOVA Aviar 2:16 INNOVA Mako3 3:38 INNOVA Sidewinder

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Cody435

3 жыл бұрын

So basically a couple decent discs innova ok

The first thing I thought of is simply putter mid range and fairway driver lol

I picked up the Mako3 a couple of months ago in the XT plastic after watching this video. It's since become my favorite disc. Being a newbie, all my other discs are DX plastic, so I thought I'd treat myself to something better and purchased the Champion Sidewinder. After throwing it for a few weeks I went back online and read some very inconsistent reviews. Weirdly, it has almost no turn and fades like crazy. It's like they got those numbers mixed up, but it's probably just me. I'm sure it'll have some use as I improve, just not what was intended. btw, love your Canadian perspective!

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve! So glad you are enjoying the Mako3, its just such a great all around disc! As for the Sidewinder, it's not the first time I've heard someone say that. Plastic choice, weight and the year it was released can drastically change what type of flight you end up with. It could also be that you got a dud, or it could just be too overstable for your current form and arm speed. If you haven't seen our PART 2 of 3 Discs Everybody Should Have, be sure to check it out! A good alternative to the Sidewinder (i.e. easier to throw and get more out of it) would be the Leopard3. It's a SUPER popular discs for the males and females, so check it out if you haven't already! 👍

@bc4me84

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc Thanks for the response! I didn't realize how much plastic choice, weight, and even the year had to do with how a disc flies. I just watched your latest video (What To Remember When Buying A Disc | 2 Important Things!), so, less emphasis on the numbers and more emphasis plastic and weight. Which means more shopping and throwing!

EDIT: Proxy, Pyro, Trace

Ehh, I wouldn’t recommend the challenger or the judge for being a classic aviar clone, I’d say the Roach/Luna or the Warden imo

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the feedback! They were actually mentioned as other options and not as direct clone replacements to the aviar. I just know they are great putters in general :)

So you should have a putter, midrange and long range disc?

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Are you new to the sport?

@mrsteezyoctopus3767

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc yeah, ive been once lol.

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

If you are just getting into it, just 1 disc will suffice. Preferably a midrange is ideal (like a 5 speed). If you start playing more frequently, then you can begin to carry a putter, midrange and driver. Hope this helps! 👍

@mrsteezyoctopus3767

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc thanks man!

Which one is more forgiving Star Mako3 or Champion Mako3? Thanks

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

It depends on what you mean by forgiving. The champion is a bit more stable, and it’s flight will stay the same longer. Having tried both, we recommend the champion 👍

@twinkle04evr

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I should say for beginner to intermediate player, we have been playing for two years on and off because the park is quite far for us. Thanks

@JustDisc

2 жыл бұрын

@@twinkle04evr Yeah, get the champion. It’s a more popular choice for this mold

@twinkle04evr

2 жыл бұрын

I just got it today, champion with the weight of 167, thanks

For the mako3, what weight? Does the grams matter?

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

How long have you been playing? Most likely I would get the disc in a eight anywhere between 170g to 180gs 👍

@samuellbrowning

Жыл бұрын

@@JustDisc I’ve been playing on n off for a few years now. Very comfortable with most shots. Just want something consistent for my forehand that has a slight natural tail.

@JustDisc

Жыл бұрын

Definitely get max weight if you are going to be using it for forehands. It’s not necessarily a good forehand disc, just because it can be a bit touchy. However, I still use it for forehand touchy approach shots when I need it to hold a specific line 👍

Aviar buzz and tee bird change my mind

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Love them all, so I can’t 😂 If I had to pick now, it would be the Aviar, the leopard3 and the Teebird. Agreed. The buzz is the best all-around midrange!

Zone/Tactic/Harp/A3/Envy/Sinus/Aviarx3

@JustDisc

3 жыл бұрын

Zone, Harp or AX3 is a must (never tried the others)