Such a great video. Just started sim drifting with the goal to get a real drift car. But showing the cost like that has definitely got me thinking!

Very interesting to see it broken down that deep. If you can mentally afford to skip a handful of IRL events you can easily buy yourself one hell of a sim setup, then.

I have to agree with everything you just said. I've been once to a Driving Experience with a BMW M4 on Brands Hatch (Indy layout, short version) after i had poured over 150+ hours on my sim rig in gran turismo, dirt rally on the PS4. I have drove on the Brands Hatch for over 20 hours on the longer version so i knew the track pretty well. I must say that everything felt natural and like i have done it before many times, the only difference was the actual feel of the G forces of the car in turns and while brakeing or accelerating. And the instructor next to me said i was very good on the track on how i tackle the apex corners and how i handle the car itself. I have spend around 2,000GBP on my rig, a Thrustmaster T300-RS GT, The Shifter and the Sparco Mod for the sparco wheel and handbreak, and i felt like i'm burning money but i knew that actual owning a car and go on the track , would cost by far much more money on the long run. I'm very happy that i've spent 2,000GBP on my rig, have no regrets and i encourage everyone to do it if they are realy into racing. At least in the future if you wanna do it for real, and you can afford it, you can translate all those hours from the rig, into the real car on the track. Good luck everyone

Amazing video as always!

Great video, good points. When me and my dad raced in SCCA back in the 80s, it was ruinously expensive even then.

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

Having run SCCA autocross back in the day even that was super competitive, couldn't imagine the on-track stuff. Was recently looking into running my drift car at an autocross for fun and spent a good 30 minutes trying to figure out what the hell class I'd need to sign up for. Since all of my control arms are replaced with non-oe style design it sounds like itd be one of the higher level classes but absolutely not going to keep up with the guys on R compound.

@kondor99999

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift I was a 17 y/o kid, my dad handled most everything but I was quicker behind the wheel. But yeah he went broke trying to support my nascent racing career. Like a lot of guys, we ran out of money and I went to college (then med school) instead. Drifting appeals to me because the part of racing I liked the most was when I’d power out of the low speed turns and hang the tail out a little. That pissed off my dad cause it used up the rears ;) I think I wanted to drift before drifting was a thing.

Great take on this subject. I love my sim and can’t wait to transfer my skills to real life

thanks for the informative video

thats why I went the sim route 😁 great video !

I bought a sim because of your videos and I don't regret a single penny spent. Hope to see you at Lanier on Friday.

Love this breakdown! Are you based in GA? Just watched a few of your vids and saw lanier, which I drive at all the time. Would love to see you at the track!

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

I was, moved up to the northeast over the winter. Hoping to come hit another event at lanier this season though!

Great video, thanks for the monetary breakdown! Love the videos, looking forward to more. Would be interesting to see what tires you used, where you bought them from and how mount\cost, and how they hold up with type and length of drifting (cool downs, hot laps, etc...)

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

I would like to do a video on tires at some point. Will think through how to best format that. Currently I buy my tires off the books from a random local dude. I call him my dealer, you'd seriously think I was buying drugs lol.

@scottchladek1770

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift ha ha, I can imagine you and your tire "dealer", I've got the good stuff over here. I wish I had a local tire rep to get my supply from. Lately I've been getting tires online, Walmart has had some good deals on Otani, Lionhearts, and Westlake too. I just get cheap low grip tires for my stock e46 330i

Good video, I have a simrig and vr. I also do track days and autox. I love the track days but the cost is just too high. I find myself lately doing the occasional autox to get that feeling of what my car can really do and spending the rest of my time sim racing. If I had endless money I'd be doing racing/track days all the time I could though.

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

I've run a bunch of autocross, it's a cheap alternative in terms of money. But from a time perspective you basically spend a full day chasing cones to get maybe 5-10 minutes of run time, so I havent gone in years at this point.

I'm pretty sure sim driving saved me a $1k deductible last night. My tires are on their last legs and we got a huge storm during my drive home. The rear end of my truck slid out and I didn't think about it just steered into it. Slid that way for a while till I stopped maybe 150 feet or so until I stopped in the turning lane. I've been playing a lot of the dirt trucks in iracing lately, that might have helped!

if you live in a cold climate country like sweden, finland, russia, canada etc. just get yourself some cheap rwd car like volvo, an old corolla or lada and you'll be fine. in that case there is no need to pay for a set of tires everytime you go on a track and you won't spend a lot of money on some crazy ass turbo kits, knuckles, coils and so on as it's pretty easy to slide any car on snow without serious mods. a welded diff, simple angle kit work best for any cheap rwd shitbox

I’d imagine the skill transfer also potentially leads to cost savings in damages as well irl. Going off of my initial sim drifting experiences I’d currently be buying a new car every session. Ha

@JankyDrift

11 ай бұрын

Oh yeah I would have wrecked the hell out of this car a few times had I not learned on sim first. I'm a menace to car insurance companies on assetto corsa lol.

I really hope that I can get a response from you. 1st, great videos and I have just subscribed. I came across your channel as I had the idea that I could learn how to drive stick shift using Racing simulation. Seeing how you highly recommend a sim set up for learning how to drift, what do you think of my idea regarding learning how to learn driving stick shift? Also, could you recommend a game or simulator if you do think this is possible? I've only driven automatic and I have anxiety with the car shutting off on me when I tried to learn stick. I figured it would work to put in some hours virtually just to finally get the car to 2nd gear! 😊. Thanks for your time sir.

@JankyDrift

7 ай бұрын

You can definitely get more comfortable with driving manual with sim... But the hardest part is starting from a stop and especially on hills, and in that respect I don't know how much benefit you'll see. Most games don't seem precise enough that you can feel a clutch engagement point. Plus you won't feel that engagement point in your clutch pedal. So it'll help in some aspects but not others.

Excellent video. I bought a Logitech setup before seeing your Thrustmaster video, do you think it’s a waste of time or will teach bad habits? Or do you think it’s good enough until I can upgrade? Looking to do my second IRL session later this year.

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

I've seen a handful of folks say they've gone to real life with the G29. You'll probably get the overall hand motions down but might have to re-learn a bit in person since the wheel will be countersteering faster than what you're used to. I say give it a shot at this point and see how it works for you.

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Thanks for the detailed look on the costs! If I had the money (hypothetically) to pay for a car, parts and upgrades, maintenance, tires and events, there is this other resource, time. The time to maintain a car, can't be compared to the time it takes to take care of a sim rig. And also the possibility to squeeze in some seat time in a sim, here and there. By the way, are there any services which rent out drift cars at events?

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

Depends on where you're located but I've come across a handful of folks renting out drift cars. Usually easiest way to find them is on the facebook groups for your local events. My last vlog I talked about a lot of what goes into setting up for an event, it's definitely a ton of work. Sim definitely doesn't get close in the thrill aspect.

@ArchOfficial

Жыл бұрын

I think even if you live at the racetrack in the pits you won't be going on track as fast as I can plug my controllers in, swivel my monitor over and sit in the rig. It really is nice to just be able to bang out a lap or two in minutes.

Totally agree. Bought my sim 1,5year ago and beeing IRL driver for 4 years - f*ck me, that was the best "drift-decission" of my life 🤣 My mates are shocked what I'm doing in tandems IRL now. Made already 700hrs seat-time when IRL in this costs I would have like...30 minutes? Last thing, with which I still argue in my head is "living your life"...still don't know how to do with this comparison :) It is better to seat at home and drift or go to event and DRIFT?...What is in your mind having experiance with both?

@JankyDrift

11 ай бұрын

I'm a pretty firm believer that you should do both. I think of the experience like quality vs quantity. You can get better QUALITY experience in real life, but you get a ton more QUANTITY of experience on sim.

I don't regret a cent i've spent on my rig despite not exactly being rich. The side benefit is that my son is learning to drive on it too so will be safer on the road when he gets his licence.

I'd like to think that my sim racing experience saved my mom's life in a car accident this last October. There's was literally nothing to do to prevent the accident (thanks asshole in the middle lane that was speeding) but to slam on the brakes. And slam on them I did, without any delay of thought. So yes, sim driving/racing is practical for learning to drive, and your experience does carry over very well, even if you have a cheepo G923 like me, it's the theory muscle memory, that counts. Still a little traumatized though, wrecking in a sim game definitely doesn't prepare you mentally for the actual whiplash you experience, nor the feeling of an airbag playing punch-out on your face 😂

which car pack do you recommend for the most "close to real life" expierence in Assetto?

@JankyDrift

6 ай бұрын

Depends on the car you're comparing to in real life but my favorite at the moment is tsujigiri lights or nstyle. Here's a video where I talk through most of the popular car packs: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6F6q8mjZqu2gMo.htmlsi=XL4iOQmjE2oLeehQ

@mongini1

6 ай бұрын

@@JankyDrift wow, thanks for that quick response 🙏

Damn based on your math my sim costs me $5.24 per hour.

Dude cmon, haven't seen you on servers with DWG cars. WTF? :) I don't wanna be always alone there!

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

I'll admit that sometimes you can find me running on gravy servers lol.

@hypahypahypa

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift oh! I'm guilty of that too.

@hypahypahypa

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift yesterday I was on server with DWG cars and there ACTUALLY WAS SOMEBODY besides me! wow. what a twist! and that wasn't you :) lol

Moral of history, f** a track just drift on street 😂

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

Hold on, let me do another video covering legal fees when you get arrested for reckless driving lol.

While no sim model is perfect and sim controllers are still a bit lacking (moreso the software interaction than the hardware itself) I do think everyone who drives on track should have a sim setup. From an amateur standpoint where you're not really using the sim like professionals do and the model really doesn't have to be very good you can leave a lot out and still benefit IMO. It's just a bit unfortunate that due to the way controllers work, drifting is really not very kinesthetically accurate. Things work a lot better if you have hands on the wheel giving it an equivalent resisting torque, much to my dismay. Anyone who knows how power steering systems work understands that they use torque as an input, and without hands on the wheel there is no torque; but sim controllers don't really see a difference because their feedback loop is ass-backwards. Even if you're simulating a manual steered car, you're going to run into the issue of oscillations that cannot be mitigated in a sound way. Let's not even get into how brake pedals work either...

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its not a perfect experience by any means, requires some suspension of disbelief in regard to the realism of your input devices. Once you get past that though, you can learn a ton. Definitely agree that anyone who races or drifts in real life should have a sim setup at home.

Good to add you definitely don’t need to spend anywhere near $2600 to get a vr capable pc setup. If you buy the pc components yourself you can set one up for under 1k easily. A lot of people go wrong by buying prebuilt PCs

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

I've got the reverb g2 and my PC can only run that around 70% resolution with a 3070 GPU, so it also depends a lot on your headset. Reverb is resource heavy. My PC was a scratch build, though in fairness I did also build with video editing in mind.

@esrtradajesse

Жыл бұрын

I built my sim setup for 1,500. Gaming laptop,vr, ts-pc, fanatec pedals, th8a shifter and a $50 stand with a foldable chair 😎💯

how do you spend 4k on a sim setup and only spend 2 hours per week on it :D

@JankyDrift

10 ай бұрын

Ha. You're not wrong.

I just bought a drift ready e36 please dont tell me this LMAO

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

Lol I'm sorry. You can cut corners and do it a bit cheaper I'm sure, used tires and all that, plus being really conscious about heat cycling to prolong the life of the tire.

@billyum4302

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift that might be a good follow-up video for those of us who have made the plunge into a drift car. Tips you've learned over the past year to keep costs down.

@billyum4302

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift also no need to apologize, drifting is so fun lol

@JankyDrift

Жыл бұрын

@@billyum4302 "follow these Janky money saving tips and you too can go bankrupt from drifting" lol

@billyum4302

Жыл бұрын

@@JankyDrift let's be real, I was going bankrupt regardless lol