Greatest podcast I've added to my feed in many years. Also learned a ton thru this world cup series

How can with modern science anyone believe these legends. Thanks mate.

-The stone is an iron meteorite. Iron meteorites are relatively pure in iron, which you will never find in a rock from Earth, and as such have always brought people to explain them with whatever story they can summon. Small item meteorites tended to get melted down and turned into ceremonial axe heads or daggers, but larger meteorites were too heavy to move. Hoba, Namibia hosts a nice one.

I greatly enjoyed this. Especially the objective second half.

Wow , as an Arab I've learned new information I didn't know before !!! I'd like to help and translate this episode to Arabic please let me know if you're interested .

@tonyholmes962

4 ай бұрын

You looking for trouble?

@beback_

2 ай бұрын

Same! I'm Iranian and Holland's had me fascinated with a secular, objective look at the early history of Islam. Looking for book recommendations so lmk if you come across a good one!

@beback_

2 ай бұрын

@tonyholmes962 there are millions of atheists in the Middle East you little fool.

early mosques were aligned with petra..i have read that the venetians had ability to carry out precious metal trade with india via egypt between 700 and 900ad.perhaps they went to sudan then turned left to the red sea opposite mecca...perhaps mecca was held by arabs to block europeans travelling this way

Listening from Saudi Arabia, what an amazing episode. But I have a note regarding suggesting that Kaaba maybe was built at the end of the 7th century, from a historical point of view, I think it is diffucilt to deny the existence of Kaaba before Islam let alone the existence of Kaaba during the birth of Islam in the beginnings of the 7th century. If you read the history of Quraysh tribe which is the main tribe in Mecca and the tribe that Muhammad belongs to, you cannot really understand how this tribe became prominant without suggesting that maybe they had something that poeple came to visit which I believe is the Kaaba, every major dynasty came from this tribe (the Umayyads, the Abbasids...etc). the whole hisotry of Mecca as a city and the tribes of Mecca could not be understood without thinking that maybe there was something in Mecca that brought people to it and made it and its people the richest and most prominant in Arabia. However, of course from a historical point of view, no one can say that Adam or Ibrahim are the ones who have built Kaaba because there is nothing that indicate this, let alone indicate the presence of those figures. But I believe Kaaba was there before the 7th century, and maybe you could aruge that there were different Kabbas in Arabia including the one in Mecca, and actually even in Islamic litrature, it's said that when the Kingdom of Aksum (the famous Ethiopian kingdom) conquered Yemen, the African King of this empire did not like that the tribes of Yemen go north to Mecca to visit the Kaaba, so he decided to build his own Kaaba in Yemen. However, accoding to Islamic litrature, his Kaaba did not attract people so he became angry and decided to invade Mecca to dystroyed the Kaaba, however his invasion has failed because god have sent birds to attack the invading army by throwing stones at it until the army retreated. So from this story, we can understand that the early muslims were not oppose to the idea that other Kaabas could have been there in Arabia. However, it's clear that all of them were forgotten and none became more important than the Kaaba in Mecca, and this may suggest that theory of many Kaabas could have been acceptable but the theory that there was no Kaaba until the late 7th century is somehting that I think is really diffuclt to say.

Crisp and concise information. Bravo..

Very interesting.

Brad pit yelling "WHATS IN THE BOXXX"

There's a lot of mix of facts and interesting, and strange interpretations.

eusebius says something about the queen of saba (near yemen) going to tyre to find a sacred stone.perhaps they lost the stone after a conflict..the other side of the kabaa is called the yemeni corner

Could Bacca be a god or a tribe and not a place-name?

If Abdul Malik built the Dome of the Rock decades after Mohamed’s death, then that casts serious doubt on the Muslim tradition of the Mirage. Mohamed was supposed to have tied his NASA horse at the Dome.

@hamadalkhalifa2323

Жыл бұрын

Get educated. The Mosque and the Dome of the Rock were built 2000 bc and that's 4000 years ago. What an Islamophobe.

@skp8748

11 ай бұрын

Nope not the same building

@thisasiankidistrashfordram374

7 ай бұрын

Not really. There was likely another building/structure there at the time of the Prophet's death, which Abdul Malik later replaced with the Dome of the Rock. After all, Jerusalem's been a busy place for millenia I'm agnostic, but even from a secular view, its not hard to see how Jerusalem became the site where many Prophets or Holy Men chose to stay & preach till their deaths. Its on the Levant in the Eastern Mediterranean, its a bridge where Africa meets Asia, its a buzzing hive of activity situated above the Arabian Peninsula. According to Jewish tradition, this is where Abraham almost sacrificed Isaac before hearing the voice of God. For the Jews, this is where their Kings established the foundation of the Jewish state & their identity. For Christians, its where Jesus, also a Jew, stayed to preach & be crucified. For Muslims, its where Muhammad spent his last days on earth. The tradition of the Miraj is no different from the Christian belief that Jesus ascended to heaven. Some of the faithful (whether for Jesus or Muhammad) believe they literally ascended to the sky, while others believe it was metaphorical. Like their souls/spirits did. I do Biochem research & even scientists & engineers can be religious.

@joejohnson6327

6 ай бұрын

Hey diddle diddle, The Cat and the Fiddle, The Cow jump'd over the Moon, The little dog laugh'd to see such Craft, And the Fork ran away with the Spoon.

@KeithWilliamMacHendry

2 ай бұрын

@@thisasiankidistrashfordram374 Aye, I suppose we are all entitled to our fantasies, even Biochem scientists. carry on then!

Kaaba is not what Muslims are praying to, it's merely a direction of prayer, there's a difference. Please at least try to understand the basic concept of an issue before attempting to discuss it in a serious podcast. You've just reinforced a ignorant understanding. That's just wrong.

@Chunkieta

4 ай бұрын

the whole thing is BS anyway

@youknow6968

4 ай бұрын

@@Chunkieta by your logic life itself is BS, what's the point of anything, what are you doing here, go do something useful with your life.

@KeithWilliamMacHendry

2 ай бұрын

Woooooooooooooooo nippy sweetie 🤡

@KeithWilliamMacHendry

2 ай бұрын

@@youknow6968 For sure you & the religious tyrants certainly don't have any answers & don't kid yourself otherwise.

@youknow6968

2 ай бұрын

@@KeithWilliamMacHendry what the heck are you talking about? Sweetie, or didn't you take your medicine today. It's OK I'll be home later to treat you really well, so don't confuse your pretty head with things you don't understand. 😘

Tom holland is the biggest liar.

@joejohnson6327

6 ай бұрын

Muhammad was a schizophrenic warlord.

@Brendan47051

6 ай бұрын

Huh??

@KeithWilliamMacHendry

2 ай бұрын

Only in the mindset of fools, fantasists & most of all, hateful religious bigots that are conditioned by a cult religion & all its falsity.

@alexjoy9693

2 ай бұрын

How?

@andreteixeira5635

14 сағат бұрын

How so? He is not a liar only because you say so. It is not only Tom Holland. Scores of top historians and scholars have already proven that Islam is a historical fraud.

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