How would you revise this list of habits? Are there any art habits I left out that you would include? 1. Draw From Life 9:40 2. Draw in your head 11:24 3. Become your own critic 13:15 4. Get information from multiple sources 15:11 5. Train like an athlete 16:24 6. Break big things into smaller things 19:42 7. Protect your most creative time 21:04 8. Go beyond the minimum requirements 21:40 9. Think like a kid 23:32 10. Research, research, research 29:24 11. Patience 32:45 12. Draw things you enjoy 34:41 13. Remix your inspiration 35:47 14. Share what you learn 36:04 15. Spend time with other artists 37:56 16. Say “No” 39:57 17. Say “yes” 41:25 18. Make ugly drawings 42:23 19. Exercise 46:45 20. Draw Daily 49:37 21. Finish what you start 49:50 22. Discipline 52:34 23. Master your calendar 55:10

@braionwarren8263

4 жыл бұрын

Proko 24. take breaks

@jackdelavega4051

4 жыл бұрын

We need subtitle please.

@mkAYY825

4 жыл бұрын

id group it all into 1 : "Draw every day" simply because it is impossible to forget, and in the effort to keep that up you tend to encounter a lot of the other points along the way.

@emwiththefreckles

4 жыл бұрын

Where can we send our questions if we're not from the USA? I'd love to send one and working for a mobile company I know LOTS of networks have high additional charges or bars that need to be lifted before you can contact the USA 😊

@krisCrashTV

4 жыл бұрын

The 5 groups are sorta Time management and discipline Self care (& social?) Getting critical towards your process and rethinking your thinking (you have a lot of stuff in this group) Motivation (& sanity?) And actual drawing advice

They can be sorted into 5 groups 1. Drawing Habits Draw From Life Draw in your head Become your own critic Draw things you enjoy Remix your inspiration Make ugly drawings Draw Daily Finish what you start 2.Practice Habits: Get information from multiple sources Research, research, research Train like an athlete Break big things into smaller things Protect your most creative time 3. Work Habits: Go beyond the minimum requirements Say “No” Say “yes” Master your calendar 4. Mindsets: Think like a kid (Be Creative thinker) Patience Exercise Discipline 5. Be Social: Share what you learn Spend time with other artists

@angeliqueroux3017

4 жыл бұрын

Eightieskid thank you!

@AuroreFolny

4 жыл бұрын

Great sorting! May I propose my own take on this? :) Just little tweaks with the "Finish...", and "Protect...", because I feel it belongs more to the "work" categories. I renamed the "practice" in "learning" habits. And I added drawing from imagination because it is one of those moment when we apply what we learn. 1. Drawing Habits Draw From Life Draw in your head (and from imagination) Become your own critic Draw things you enjoy Remix your inspiration Make ugly drawings Draw Daily 2. Learning Habits: Get information from multiple sources Research, research, research Train like an athlete Break big things into smaller things 3. Work Habits: Go beyond the minimum requirements Say “No” Say “yes” Master your calendar Protect your most creative time Finish what you start 4. Mindsets: Think like a kid (Be Creative thinker) Patience Exercise Discipline Actually there is many great books from authors who tried to define these stuffs, and it looks pretty like this. :) I love "Steal Like An Artist", "Show Your Work!" and "Keep Goin" by Austin Kleon, for example. Also the 3 books by 99U are great ! #multiplesources ;)

@franciscoaldeao

4 жыл бұрын

You are a beautiful soul :)

@akbarommerx5085

3 жыл бұрын

So perfect, thanks a lot

"Truths come in contradictory pairs." Great quote by Marshall.

@Maxflay3r

4 жыл бұрын

1. "Truths come in contradictory pairs" 2. "No they don't"

@AL-ck3hg

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, actually wrote that down next to a doodle in my notebook.

@fluidfox1436

4 жыл бұрын

It seems true though

@spacejunk2186

4 жыл бұрын

If both are true, how can they contradict each other? I feel like this is ignoring context.

@ryanmoran6320

Жыл бұрын

Well the truth is truths, sometimes, come in contradictory pairs. But that doesn’t sound as cool.

Hey guys, we love the long format of the podcast. Don't feel the need to go quickly even though the list is long. I like hearing you elaborate on the reasoning behind the tips, it helps me 'see' the point. Advice without context is just a sentence.

I actually listen several times each podcast while I'm working on my drawings and stuff...it's the cheapest option to absorve every second of pure knowledge and art related data that you guys provide on every chapter. I also take notes and screenshots of the books you recomend. I'm literaly taking this podcasts as free art lessons! Saludos desde Argentina!!

@elfynde8863

4 жыл бұрын

estoy haciendo lo mismo jajaja

@Al3jandr0318

4 жыл бұрын

@@elfynde8863 x3 HAHAHA que onda nos pasamos los intagrams para apoyar al talento latino? xd

@maxine5578

2 жыл бұрын

Sameeee

@dplj4428

4 ай бұрын

I download so i can listen in loop. But, when i can i also click on the Thank$ to support their teaching on KZread. ❤

My favorite habit is for procrastinators, called "the ten minute try" force yourself to work for ten minutes, if you're still not into doing it~ then give it up for now but, almost all the time you will go for a longer period of time. Marshall's advice for the aspiring tattoo artist was great (Having been one for 20+yrs) and another piece of advice I may add is to study how the art changes over the course of time. I love this podcast and look forward to it every week!

@fullanalysis93

4 жыл бұрын

That's a great tip, thank you.

@Dillon964

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks I needed this

24:02 "think, quick fast!"

@acidset

4 жыл бұрын

He thought too fast

Marshall, I'm glad you said yes to the podcast.

I've become completely addicted to this show. In regards to this episode I wanted to share something a painting teacher said to our class many years ago (this is in regards to the 'make ugly drawings' habit). Alex Martin said, "No one in this room is going to make a masterpiece. Myself included. So get that out of your head. Get it out of your head and just paint. Once you realize that nothing - NOTHING- you do in this class will be great, you will open yourself up and be able to grow. And that's when masterpieces can happen." Also, thank you so much for doing this show.

This is probably the tenth time I've listened to this episode alone. Just thought I'd let you guys know how valuable and timeless your content is 💯💪🤓

@ProkoTV

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I would do 4 categories: 1) experiment and learn {draw in your head, train like an athlete, ugly drawings, draw daily, say yes, draw from life, think like a kid} 2) stay motivated {draw things you like, remix inspiration, patience, multiple resources,break big things smaller} 3) set your standards {go beyond minimum requirements, discipline, finish what you start, master calendar, say no} 4) don’t become isolated {share your learning, spend time with artists, exercise}

I feel so blessed to be an artist in this time in history when so much knowledge is so easily available. I grew up in an era when I'd be lucky to catch a bob ross episode .

AHHH THE LEYENDECKER IMAGE AS THE TITLECARD perfect! Your videos/podcast have been very motivating and encouraging, thank you so much for experimenting with this format!

I'm going through depression... But thanks to listening to this Ive being able to cope. Thanks Marshal and Stan.

I would summarize them into three: - Discipline: includes sticking to your goals and having patience, as well as having the rest of your life under control; - Conscious decisions: mindful practice, researching the subject, taking or refusing jobs. seeing projects through; - Remember your goals: this one speaks for itself. Keep them always in mind and prioritize them.

@stumoss4838

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! I wrote a article about this: www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-military-made-me-stronger-artist-stuart-moss

49:32 when I study anatomy I alternatively watch Proko and Athlean X and lift weights. One hand washes the other and since doing so I’ve gotten way stronger and more flexible while at the same time getting 100% better at drawing anatomy

"Dragging audio cable" Sir I know a bong hit when I hear one

@benhue3671

4 жыл бұрын

uheuaheu yup

Guys, most ppl are struggling to get enough content together and avoid silences, yet you tried to blast through all 23 habits. Each of those 23 could provide an entire episode of elaboration along with conversational tangents.

One thing I might add is trying different artistic disciplines. If you're any type of 2D-artist try doing some sculpting on the side. You'll have to figure out how muscles look from every angle instead of just the one you're drawing. Another thing I'd suggest is learning some rudimentary 3D rendering techniques and terms. It's really great when you get to see how stuff like ambient occlusion, subsurface scattering, and specularity affect your scene/object without having to focus on your craftsmanship as a painter/drawer. You'll also have new words for some of the things you'll observe when you're drawing from reference or imagination later!

This is one of the most authentic dialogues between an educator and an entrepreneur. It is as clear as a mirror. One can see himself and relate to the points discussed in this podcast. Hopefully they will find a way to promote this to a larger audience. Thank you!

I can't tell you how happy it made me that you guys enjoyed draftsmail. Thoroughly enjoying the podcast, been drawing more as a result of the motivation gained from these shows.

Proko, I fell in love with you the moment you said the word "scrum". I learned agile methodology while working as a UX designer at an e-commerce company, but it's application would be incredible for artists. I am currently working on applying it in my own practice!!

"Do not believe everything you read on the internet." - Abraham Lincoln

@urs1386

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣

Train like an athlete ! Is this Jeff Cavaliere's Channel ?

@warriorsinagarden

4 жыл бұрын

Face pulls after every drawing session.

@sreeragvarma8179

4 жыл бұрын

Drawing is killing your gains!

boom! 43:31 Marshall's "messy drawing" of kangaroo is lightyear better than Stan's fetus

I wish they didn't limit their time. I love listening to this podcast and could listen to it for hours. Plus I think most people draw while listening to it, it absolutely flies by.

Man you are certainly a person I really really appreciate. For everything incredible I have learned from watching and listening to you in your videos. Which have all equally resulted to be fantastic for any pursuiting artist. Thank you for demonstrating all of these skills and techniques. TY TY TY

Awe I love you guys, watching these videos actually lightens my day and makes me feel less pressure about being an artist.

Hey I was thinking about the voicemail from this week about drawing on a curve surface, a good exercise I trought was to draw in a piece of wood, like a hashi (something bigger would be better), which has cylindrical shape, it may seen difficult to draw on a piece of wood but it's not really that hard, you could look for a cylindrical chair's leg, a vase or a bowl and just erase the drawing aftewards, if you only have one piece, try to get a piece without varnish otherwise it would be a bit difficult to draw into it (at least in my litle experience). Another option is to make a drawing on a paper and attached to a round surface, so you can see how it would look or even draw on the paper instead of the wood. You can go even further, like grabbing a piece of thick cloth and wraping around this round surface to simulate the given of skin. Or even, paperboard box. I hope I was of some help. Great podcast by the way, it's realy fun, just as Marshall's `THING`, it gives the desire to watch again and again and forever on. Thanks for the content.

23:51 omg Marshall commenting on the trash truck noises, what a hilarious precursor to the trash truck noises at his house during all the covid videos

Season 2 will begin on April 7 and on it’s own KZread channel… Be sure to subscribe! kzread.info/dron/fvIqreCk628yB9mp3e_ABQ.html

you guys are so much fun to watch. Thanks for all of the positive energy, it really brightens my day.

Damn i have most energy and creativity during 00-04 AM. Guess i'm embracing vampire lifestyle

@taylorstrickland5325

4 жыл бұрын

Thats that alpha brain wave state.

I love Marshall sm. Y'all give me so much life. Thanks for being y'all

I very much appreciate this videos, I don't mind you going over an hour, don't set timers. Also that quote at 34:36 is *so good* it cracked me up i'm still in tears

Just wanted to say I love this series of podcasts. You guys help me to keep going

The best podcast for painting. Inspiring, instructor, and funny. Better than listen to music, that I like, but distract me! I can't believe that I just find out this now! Thanks! You are great!

@ProkoTV

24 күн бұрын

Wow, thank you!

Hi, Stan and Marshall, I love your podcast! I have sorted the list into 3 categories: *Stay Motivated:* 1. Draw things you enjoy 2. Make ugly drawings 3. Get information from multiple sources 4. Think like a kid (out of the box) 5. Patience 6. Share what you’ve learnt 7. Spend time with other artists *Do the homework:* 1. Draw daily 2. Draw from life 3. Draw in your head 4. Train like an athlete 5. Break big things into smaller things 6. Exercise (mens sana in corpore sano) 7. Remix your inspiration 8. Go beyond the minimum requirements *Have your own projects:* 1. Master your calendar (set goals and make a weekly analysis) 2. Protect your most creative time 3. Discipline 4. Say “No” to some projects (remember you goals) 5. Say “yes” to experimentation and challenges 6. Research, research, research 7. Finish what you start 8. Become your own best critic I hope you find it useful. Thank you for the podcast and the good advice.

Love the podcasts please continue to do these

I love the awkward intros

Powered through every delicious minute of this video and all I can remember is "scrum" P.S. Like Marshall, I reread books over and over. I find new things everytime and get into certain mindsets that I thought I've forgotten. It's fun.

Oh my God the comment about Ray Bradbury. One of my favorite authors and it was a nice surprise to hear Marshall casually mentioning this detail about him. Love this podcast.

I love your podcast. You guys crack me up and inspire me to improve my skills.

The intro banter is entertaining.. "Home is where the fart is."

Around the 50 min mark, I really related to Marshal talking about doing 80 hour drawings and having someone tell me that I'm basically insane. My favorite medium is pen and ink, and I have on numerous occasions turned a doodle into a 4 month drawing made up of stippling and cross hatching. I would become so invested in these projects that I wouldn't want to let them go because I was afraid of having to start something new. For this reason my mentor has had me working with graphite more which has been really freeing and although I still get lost in rendering, I finish my drawings in about 2 weeks now and can move on more freely

Thank you. Made me wish that I artist friends! I love the two of you - complimenting contrasting each other.

Don't allow your mother to critique your art. lol They always will tell you its beautiful. My mother does and I know I'm not very good but like to draw and I'm okay with that.

one thing i want to add to the voicemail, ive seen tattoo artists practice on fruits/veggies so you can practice tattooing on a curved surface. you probably dont need a tattoo machine to do this, you can probably carve, ink, draw, etc on it to practice on a curved surface, really useful stuff.

Keep it awkward. More entertaining. Gives similar vibes to Norm’s podcast.

@Cinderspark9

4 жыл бұрын

It makes it feel a bit more attainable and approachable, like these amazing artists who are now teaching others are just weird goofballs. They're not the sort of people that you have to lose all your childish tendencies to count yourself among them.

Nice haircut, Stan! Looking good, guy! 👌Chillaxin with my favorite podcast, been drawing while I do errands today, so I'm all warmed up.

Oh my, thank you so much for this video, this is just what I needed

That was a great podcast to listen to while drawing, i'm waiting for more ^^

I think the list should have at least 5 more habits... But seriously I am so grateful that your channel is out there and I love the Draftsman series.. THANK YOU!!! ( Excellent for binge watching )

i love this episode .. sooo useful.. waiting for more!

Hi Stan and Marshall. You asked for a possible organization of your habits: A) Creativity and Exploring other Directions (Get out of your comfortable and get a different perspective for the purpose of advancing): 4 Get information from multiple sources 15:11 9. Think like a kid 23:32 10. Research, research, research 29:24 13. Remix your inspiration 35:47 18. Make ugly drawings 42:23 B) Skill Development: 1. Draw From Life 9:40 2. Draw in your head 11:24 5. Train like an athlete 16:24 12. Draw things you enjoy 34:41 14. Share what you learn 36:04 20. Draw Daily 49:37 C) Improve using Feedback: 3. Become your own critic 13:15 15. Spend time with other artists 37:56 D) Stand out from the Crowd (Your work and art styles): 8. Go beyond the minimum requirements 21:40 6. Break big things into smaller things 19:42 7. Protect your most creative time 21:04 14. Share what you learn 36:04 F) Become Effective (doing what needs to be done using the least resources) Not just Efficient (doing things using the least resources). Make sure you are doing what gets you to your goal: 11. Patience 32:45 16. Say “No” 39:57 17. Say “yes” 41:25 19. Exercise 46:45 21. Finish what you start 49:50 22. Discipline 52:34 23. Master your calendar 55:10

@0ia

Жыл бұрын

good!

I really LOVE these podcasts!

This was such a good episode for me. Two points hit me hard. #2, Draw In Your Head. I love this. I do this all the time, and it's such an important part of my process. And #21, Finish What You Start. Stan hit the nail on the head with this. I get really excited about big new projects, then burn out halfway through. Doesn't happen often, but anytime I fail to deliver on a promise, it stings. I need to make my promises more realistic and commit to their completion.

Marshall was reading my mind. Please have a full episode on training. I feel I now know how to train like a basketball player. Thanks Stan. But as a self training artist, I do feel confused sometimes if I am doing it right or can do it better.

I love proko and this draftsmen series so much. It’s a pity I can only subscribe this channel and like this video only one time!!!

Like this! Great mental health habits to keep from getting stuck. Thanks! Alyhough I had to break this into segments its worth a repeat to get more out of it.

Great content and insight...I was taking notes! Thanks so much for posting! : )

Bending down for your shoe, Proko? That was still Crossfit. They set you up to fail physically by pushing you to do exercises that your body wasn't ready for. Then an innocent little action? Pow! Right in the kisser! I think that set up is somewhere on your list, too.

Success is for me to switch my brain in some kind of automatic while drawing. Im so deep into it while drawing, that kind of mental state is my success. If other ppl like my sketches, i feel good but not more or less successful.

Thanks for these videos guys 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Thank you for posting . Thank you for your excellent videos / which provide me with great information , encouriging , motivating me . Thanks for sharing .

I want to know more about the "Liberace" sequence! Haha great video guys as always!

@CoCoComet

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know much but I think it's tied to the rhinestone ratio

“Grind it into a pile of silver” hahaha marshal your the man!

This is the best podcast ever, thanks to Marshall!

Clicked so fast the only quality available was 360p.

@ClowdyHowdy

4 жыл бұрын

2 hours later its still just 360p

@shutin3529

4 жыл бұрын

same

@brettinabox5607

4 жыл бұрын

what the heck youtube? I have never seen quality restricitions!

ok am not japanese but am 100% sure, as was stated by a japanese on youtube addressing this point, that slurping noodles is just the way japanese ppl eat noodles and it's not out of respect. he mentioned that it makes the noodles taste better and because it's often hot so it's easier to eat. channel: Rachel and Jun. Video: "25 weird things about Japan. True or False? "

Loving the editing, Charlie! Had a good laugh

I really enjoy listening to the podcast.

"Take breaks" I don't know about 6, when it comes to actual drawing, some of my art friends are real good at zooming in on the small things - but when it comes to managing a project then yes, absolutely. And uh, as someone who has worked in production... I don't know about going beyond minimum requirements - make sure you keep your deadline.

@kaleemasilon8919

4 жыл бұрын

Take breaks a great one!

Marshall is awesome Like a wise old sage Love these podcast

i love this podcast sm :DD

Oh my god 37:30 cracked me up hard. "No, take it back, marshal" LMAO

I'm saving your quote Marshall "Truths come in contradictory pairs"

I did not expect to hear about Scrum in a draftmen episode!

I think I draw more in my head than actually draw hahahaha. I can just look 15 minutes at a glass and look just how the shadows fall and where the light reflects and how I would draw or paint them, meanwhile my mom is looking very concerned because I’ve been staring at my tea for so long.

U senpais kinda blew my mind w/ that list. b/c 90% of those lessons are useful for Life in general.

Awesome discussion by masters!

This episode is great!

I love this podcast 🌸

I actually listen to these podcasts multiple times.

"Flip canvas horizontal"

@nomeda6000

4 жыл бұрын

Omg yes

@TiffanysFineArt

4 жыл бұрын

@@nomeda6000 I definitely agree with both of you :D

@AlejandraRafa

4 жыл бұрын

Good one!

Success sis actually one of your habits... Success is a piece that's finished, whether you like it, whether you sold it, or not...if its not finished, yiu can't really decide whether you like it, nor can you genuinely sell it, as you're not able to say its a finished thing to be sold... That's how I would describe success, on a piece by piece basis, a body of work, a project, whatever... Just finished is a rare success in itself... For me at least.

Hey Stan great episode ! Cant wait for the next one. I wonder if you could do one podcast on Nr.21. "Finish what you started" or how to use your creative energy wisely. I feel that this is a very interesting topic to talk about what you can do to manipulate yourself, to use your creative energy more efficient. When you guys where talking about why starting on this or starting on something without commitment. I persoanlly have this habit because when I started out I was generating ideas in my sketchbook on a daily basis just to have them in storage, but ! here comes the pitfall when it comes to finish things I have started it gets difficult. Usually the energy at the beginning is very high and I know I have the time frame from 1-1,30 hours but then it dropped very quick. Do you have any tips. Thanks a lot to you guys I really enjoy the episodes while working !!! Keep those up !! Best regards János

This is my second time I go from E01 through all episodes. Repetition indeed... same with the tutorials, doesnt hurt to go back to basics and remind yourself where skills came from...

you’re an inspiration marshal

Thanks for a great podcast, that's really entertaining. I could not believe this: 😂 Scrum has reached the art world. In IT it's a very popular framework. I think ideas from Scrum can work for class settings and personal planning too. I would love to hear if and how Marshall has made us of it.

An HOUR of Marshall and Stan giving advice? Is this paradise?

The 5 Categories I have are Develop Your Skills, Manage Yourself, Be Creative, Develop Your Qualities, and Be Social: 1. Develop your Skills * Draw From Life * Draw In your head * Train like an athlete * Draw Daily * Get information from multiple sources * Research research research * Make ugly drawings * Draw things you enjoy 2. Manage Yourself * Master your calendar * Break things onto smaller things * Protect your most creative times 3. Be Creative * Think like a kid * Remix your inspiration 4. Develop your qualities * Become your own critic * Go beyond the minimum requirements * Patience * Say "No" * Say "Yes" * Exercise * Finish what you start * Discipline 4. Be Social * Share what you learn * Spend time with other artists I think they break in well in these ways. You can even put the smaller archetypes into one episode. Or add them to episodes with the bigger archetypes.

Best episode

One more that is needed in there is: Make DELIBERATE REST PERIODS - Short (15' between 1-1,5h sessions), Long (one day off every 7-10 days) and Extended (a week off every 2-3 months) and you'll NEVER BURN OUT!!

Woo i'm excited to listen to this one

"Shut up, Charlie" 😂

I miss these two together talking about art. Please come back together!

Best channel on KZread.

Marshal : "You've gotta get hit by a taser a few times" Proko: "wtf X'D"

Agile methodology is great and could even be applied to personal activities. The nice thing is that one can always adapt it to ones own needs. For aboard, I use Trello (it's free, I know it's "kanban style" but you mold it as you wish) and keeps things organized. You can even share boards with clients and make up your own columns so that they know what you are up to without wasting emails of "are you done yet?". :)