Toyota's working on pricing themselves right out of the market.

“Turbo 4 working hard” That’s why I love the 4.0 V6 in my 4Runner. It never feels like it’s breaking a sweat commuting or pulling my 14’ trailer with ATV’s on it.

@elonsus9747

Ай бұрын

Long live the 4.0. Very reliable engine.

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

This engine is more powerful. Maybe the 4.0 should have tried sweating nore.?

Looks like The Taco ate a few burritos.

@toronado455

Ай бұрын

😂 🌯🌯🌯🌯

@Gabez82

Ай бұрын

Yeah…she’s a little thicc, she’s about 30yrs old now. 🤣

40 years later, and John's voice hasn't changed.

@spinnetti

Ай бұрын

which isn't a great thing.

Looking good John Davis

As a decades-long Toyota loyalist, I bought a new 2022 Nissan Frontier. Toyota ruined its truck line with crappy turbo engines, hollow build quality, cartoonish bro-dozer styling, and insane pricing. The Frontier has a naturally aspirated V6, rock-solid build quality, conservative yet handsome styling, and reasonable pricing. My loaded Frontier SV long wheel base was $39K OTD. Almost 2 years in and the Frontier has been flawless.

Nice truck. But they’re gotten too expensive

@allentoyokawa9068

Ай бұрын

Uh no, these are worth EVERY penny

@calembo7124

Ай бұрын

⁠@@allentoyokawa9068 I swear I’ve seen your comment on every video that criticizes these Tacomas. Has Toyota gifted you a truck yet for you service? lol

@digital_0630

Ай бұрын

Let us find out @allentoyokawa is actually Akio pretending to be someone else to convince us they haven’t gotten too expensive 😂

@eriknorman7409

Ай бұрын

There's not a taco in the world....worth 50 grand!!! Even when built in Mexico, even though it's Japanese company sent to America then sent to Mexico to make it cheaper....😅😅😂

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@allentoyokawa9068based on what?

These are sitting on my local dealers lot collecting pollen. They are not selling

@DavefromCA2023

6 күн бұрын

Yup coastal CA same story

I'll keep my 2015 with 175k on it. Still runs like the day I bought it.

@skipgumphrey9579

Ай бұрын

Don’t feel bad, I’m doing the same with my 300,000 mile 04 Toyota Sequoia !

@BradThePitts

Ай бұрын

2009 same but 250,000 miles. I can laugh now but it was a mind-blowing $30,000 😂

@martin4749

Ай бұрын

Hold my beer. My daily driver in my 1985 Xtracab 4wd. (stock engine with 300K on it)

@allentoyokawa9068

Ай бұрын

This is far better

@janetairlines1351

Ай бұрын

Same with my 2010

Let me make sure I understand. Toyota moves production of their Tacoma pickups to Mexico to "improve efficiency and cut costs", and THE PRICE OF THE TRUCK SKYROCKETED!! Yea....that makes perfect sense....

@martin4749

Ай бұрын

It does if you're Toyota. LOL

@MrHand-ih4sz

Ай бұрын

@martin4749 True...they said they wanted to cut COSTS...not profits! 😆 🤣

@AmericaFirst069

Ай бұрын

And to think the mexicans are only getting paid two dollars per hour.

@williamdavis4809

Ай бұрын

Now it's an authentic Taco

I want to buy a $50k turbo 4 cylinder truck that's made in Mexico said no one ever!

According to Motorweeks testing on this Tacoma, I had no idea I was supposed to be searching for a sports car driving experience in a pick up truck

I only watch the MotorWeek videos with John hosting. 👍

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

Ай бұрын

Same

I live in the UK and we don't get a lot of the vehicles reviewed here but it's still one of my favourite channels and John is a legend. Love your work Sir !

@kumudukulasekara6684

Ай бұрын

Consider yourself lucky. Imagine every third person dressed like a lumberjack carrying a chainsaw everywhere in the city and you'll know why.

This new version of tacoma feels like sharting at work when your day just started

Awesome episode! I was just thinking about a Motorweek episode and John Davis introducing the 4th gen Taco! Glad it’s here!

Great review as always. Thanks for the vid.

Had to go by my local Toyota dealer today to get a part. Looked at a newTaco window sticker with, as expected, an addendum sticker, and a 2wd SR5 was knocking on $50k. This tells me when the $65k Trail Hunters hit the lots, they will likely be well over $70,000. Sorry, that's too much for a mid size 4cyl truck that isn't much more capable than a 1st or 2nd Gen Taco with a lift and tires. And whats with the shrinking fuel tank of only 18 gal? Why are companies afraid to improve mpgs AND give more range?

@MaxPower-11

22 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, Toyota still has waay lower inventory levels then any other car maker out there and dealers are taking advantage with ridiculous markups.

This is the only place I've seen 6.2 seconds to 60. Maybe they meant 7.2

@GlennC789

Ай бұрын

Track testing always gives better numbers. Several reasons. One is that commonly the timer doesn't start until after a short "rollout" period, drag-strip style. Street GPS/stopwatch testing is always a little to a lot slower.

@toronado455

Ай бұрын

Yeah I found that to be very optimistic.

@uhAlphaFox

Ай бұрын

@@GlennC789 At the same time MotorWeek tested the Corolla Cross with a 10.5s 0-60 time while most other 0-60 trials were around 9.3 seconds

@GlennC789

Ай бұрын

@@uhAlphaFox That's interesting. Rare, though. Car and Driver magazine always prided themselves on getting the best results possible, for just one example. Then readers started calling them out on eliminating the rollout time, usually a couple tenths or a bit more. They copped to it, since they had no choice, but still do it. So their published results aren't actually real 0-60 times, they're more like 2-60 times. They also use tricks like traction-compound-treated strips with perfectly clean surfaces, and I think they also "correct" their times to sea-level-standard conditions, which also makes them look better than they really are since they don't test at sea level. They'll also abuse the hell out of cars to get their times and sometimes tell stories about fragged clutches and transmissions and the like. KZread types don't usually go to those extremes.

@MoparPentastar

Ай бұрын

Motortrend consistently measures lower 0-60 times than Motorweek, often by 0.5 to 1 seconds, and they clocked it at 7.2 seconds, so Motorweek's number is almost certainly a typo.

The Nissan Frontier is a better Value imo

The rear suspension of this test truck are coils springs why did you say it had leaf springs?? You can see the solid links holding the rear axle instead of leaf springs...

Trucks are way to expensive now. Priced me out of the market.

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

Save up and pay cash. LOL I don't get a loan for anything.

And this truck can be yours for only 59,000 doll... WHAT THE FU...!

Love it. Gonna get the limited hybrid fulltime 4wd with adaptive suspension. Most similar setup to my gx460 but in a truck. But only when my kids are in forward facing seats

Happy Trucking

I saw one recently and couldn’t stop looking at the massive lower Ford style front air deflector.

@martin4749

Ай бұрын

9 bolts and it's gone. Lesa than 5 minutes.

@o-_-ojb

Ай бұрын

@@martin4749 Why is there in the first place? That’ll be gone too.

@muffdiver4973

Ай бұрын

​@@o-_-ojb gas mileage

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

​@@o-_-ojbfuel economy. Likely intentionally designed to be easily removed

The less than impressive changes to the Tacoma combined with Sticker Shock is a No GO

Love it! I'm not a truck person but I realize I could really use one as an extra vehicle. Also like that a 6-speed manual is still available. Now, where can I find a pre-owned?

So no 6 cylinder manual 😮

Even in northern Chile many Tacomas are ready to use.

Thought mpg would be better.

I prefer the more base level tricks, a 24 base probably has more features than a top of the line trim 20 years ago. I have a 2003 and 2004 vehicle.

@devildog5354

Ай бұрын

Trucks 'and' tricks are best when served up that way...

@martin4749

Ай бұрын

ha ha. exactly. My 1985 SR5 has manual windows and locks, manual hubs, and not one single cup holder. How far things have come.

Good thing they put that 6" air dam on the front to destroy any ground clearance.

nobody is been waiting for a tacoma that is $50k+

I wish the roofline would have remain rounded like all previous generations. It’s was a classic design cue.

First review I've seen to mention that it's built on the Tundra chassis!

We’ll see how well it’s sales hold up at those prices.

Better in some ways and ok in others, but still competitive. Good acceleration and braking performance. The interior could be bigger, but it is nicer. It will continue to be the best seller in the segment.

$50K for a 4 cylinders truck??????

@donjuan2105

Ай бұрын

Do you really believe the industry will once again go back to 8 cylinder or 6? Eventually there won't even be a 4 cylinder. Guess you'll cry no matter what, so go get a bicycle

@jamescates1606

Ай бұрын

No more V-6

@wilsoneashoian5789

Ай бұрын

@@donjuan2105 People like you who accept everything that auto makers say and follow blindly without asking questions, are causing the prices to go up and design and quality goes down. Yes, it is true that we will be going to EV everything at the end, but do not be so gullible to be a follower of auto makers marketing to use environment and saving the planet from the fossil fuels. $50K plus is outrages for a 4 cylinders truck made in Mexico that quality is much lower. I have a 2001 Double cab made in Freemon, CA that still outperform the new with gas mileage of 20 MPG. If it was made in Japan, I would say it worth the price, but not made in Mexico that have so many problems. These new truck are not selling and they are sitting on the lots.

@ljmorris6496

Ай бұрын

​@wilsoneashoian5789 I've checked the figures, truck sells are very good. A heavy, 4 banger truck getting to 60 in 6.2 seconds was sport coupe territory 10-15 years ago. Nobody forcing you to by one, nor anyone buying a Taco would want the boat anchor v6..

@donjuan2105

Ай бұрын

@wilsoneashoian5789 it's people like you who fail to understand it's not the auto industry but the federal governments and states who are forcing the auto industry in a certain direction. Get off your high horse when you clearly are clueless. I absolutely do not accept these prices in fact it will only sway me to keep my 16 longer now. Let's also stop pretending Ford, Chevy won't be raising prices also. It's called inflation

Why did u do the 0-60 on the downhill part of the track? Also no 1/4 mile time??

@Motorweek

24 күн бұрын

Part of the track was under maintenance at the time so we were limited in our testing.

The look of this one doesn’t do it for me.

so much for a small/midsized Truck

I'm going to hang on to my 2007 4X4 access cab 4.0L (with 76K miles) for dear life. P.S. I have to wash it all the time because, you know.... Rust. 😂

Every manufacturer is pricing themselves out of the market.

Guess where the Turbo is, guys. Behind the engine. So if you need to service the turbo on this new 4 cylinders.... YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE ENTIRE CAB OF THE TRUCK. Imagine this needed to be done outside of warranty. Who wants to pay $5,000 to have the turbo serviced. They are severely overpriced.

I’m not happy about a 6 cylinder eliminated as an option. Toyota should bring back an inline 6 like they had many years ago.

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

That conf sucks and has no power. I test drove one and moved on. Hope this new truck does better.

@kumudukulasekara6684

Ай бұрын

Why? They are commuter vehicles.

Mexico made, overpriced 4 cylinder. I'm out. Let's see the quality issues the first year

It gets a little better.

Add $15k for markup

The huge price increase is ridiculous-they can keep it-hybrid option is even more.

Seems like a decent truck. could be a bit smaller though, don't think this one fits in most garages.

Only the SR gets leaf springs. You guys have the SR5 so the comment made in the slalom is incorrect having leaf springs is incorrect.

@toronado455

Ай бұрын

All of the XtraCab Tacomas have leaf springs, not just the SR.

@JetSkiSuper7

Ай бұрын

I was wondering the same but you can clearly see it has leaf springs. They should have test the all-new rear suspension setup as I’m guessing it would handle much better.

@jbkendrick

Ай бұрын

Not true, all xtra cabs have leaf springs, and sr, sr5 and prerunner are available with that cab.

@toronado455

Ай бұрын

@@JetSkiSuper7 No no no no no. What you're seeing there is one of the multi-link links. It LOOKS like it's a leaf spring from a distance, but it is not!

@JetSkiSuper7

Ай бұрын

Nope, at the 3 minute mark he clearly stated that the test truck has leaf springs.

I still got mine for $42k only 3k more than the 21 i had. Considering all the changes it has, isnt too bad. Granted mine basically has only a couple options and no markup

It’s exactly what I want, everything changes.

This isn't the TACO we have been waiting for!

"Midsize." Thing is big.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Not really. They look bigger on the outside than they are. They are a midsize truck so they are still cramped for space.

@bmstylee

Ай бұрын

@@Policearegood-mt6kx very true. It's the same size inside as the 2001 Ranger I had years ago.

@J.W.W.

Ай бұрын

Still a tiny truck for us 6’ 4” guys. I sat in crew cab at the dealer, and while the front seat room is now GREAT, nobody could sit behind me. The driver seat back was 2” from the rear seat cushion 😢

@dawsongranger4940

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@J.W.W.look at the new ranger, actually usable back seats

I’ll just say we’re going to hold on to our 2021 TRD Pro. LOL.

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

LOL. Glad I waited. The new TRD pro is significantly more powerful and capable.

@stevenblunt-canosa9131

Ай бұрын

@@ytj22 hey that’s great man. Really wonderful news. So happy for you.

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

@@stevenblunt-canosa9131 Agreed, thanks! 👍

I was thinking the mpgs would have been better.

@joeylopezphd

Ай бұрын

Really? 21mpg is great for a body on frame mid size truck.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@joeylopezphdnot when full size trucks get that or better.

@joeylopezphd

Ай бұрын

@@Policearegood-mt6kx ​​⁠real world driving really depends. Your driving affects MPG as you all know. I drive a Lexus RC F, they are rated at 19 combined. I get 22-24 because I don’t flog it every light and on the highway I get 29mpg. Most people I see online get around 15mpg, they are heavy footed with it. Most full size trucks to not have combined consumption of 21mpg on MW’s route unless they are hybrid or diesels. Compare apples to apples.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

@@joeylopezphd every manufacturer makes a full size that will get as good or better mpg than any current midsize.

@joeylopezphd

Ай бұрын

@@Policearegood-mt6kxcorrect, they are mostly V6, or I4. Again when comparing against MW MPG loops. Toyota didn’t move to the I4 for MPG, they moved to it for emissions, same for the v6’s that replaced the v8’s. Toyota is pretty old school in many ways. 21mpg on a truck isn’t bad, it’s competitive compared to other rivals on the MW loop.

What's the point of going to a turbo four that boasts more power but the towing capacity is lower than the previous V6? The hybrid will be able to tow more, but that'll cost more--you can get something else bigger and better. Plus the MPG is only slightly better. Good looking truck, fake air vents and all, but hard pass for that amount of money.

@bmstylee

Ай бұрын

Not a huge deal since most people won't actually use it as a truck.

@natelove187

Ай бұрын

The Ford Explorer out sold the Toyota Highlander because of Toyota's complex turbo and hybrid system. People are catching on that Toyota is using weak 4 bangers with turbos and Toyota's reliability will suffer as the vehicle age which will require expensive repair cost

@nwezetx1

Ай бұрын

​@@natelove187That's ignorant BS. Tell us what engine the Highlander Hybrid uses...

@mad-meh2719

Ай бұрын

​@@natelove187this thing is not weak. I have one and I rarely have to floor it to get the power I need. The turbo really shines on steep hills. This truck has really surprised me with only 2 months of ownership.

@natelove187

Ай бұрын

@@mad-meh2719 the truck is cheap and underpowered and noisy raspy eco truck engine 🛻

Just here to see the legendary host. ❤❤❤

Why no quarter mile time

I'm certainly not the first person to point this out -- but what an UGLY engine bay! How could they not have put on an engine cover!! This thing looks like a rube-goldberg pile of snakes!!!

@devildog5354

Ай бұрын

I would assume to provide heat mitigation due to the turbocharged engine...

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

​@@devildog5354For some, that was easy to figure out.

I would have liked to have seen a quarter mile test result.

@moejr1974

Ай бұрын

6.2 0-60 is roughly around high 14's

@FiremanFrank24

Ай бұрын

@@moejr1974 Thank you.

@Motorweek

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately the track that we use was under maintenance for a few weeks and so we couldn't run the full quarter mile.

For Toyota to completely get rid of the V6, 21 miles per gallon isn't that great for a 4-cylinder but I guess it does have a lot of power for the size, but I'm just saying I got an 07 tundra with a 5.7 and I can get 19mpg on the highway and it's paid off.

@droneworks6340

Ай бұрын

For 4x4 21 is great. Do more homework. LOL I don't buy a truck unless it's a 4x4.

🔥🔥🔥🔥

Since it’s made in Mexico now I heard they are contemplating officially changing the name to Taco, since so many affectionately refer to them as that already.

@billseiler4952

Ай бұрын

My 2016 was manufactured in Mexico…..it was a leaning Taco the Toyota wouldn’t fix under warranty….it was traded in for another brand

Drop the sewing machine engine and bring back the reliable V6! My 2005 tacoma is still running strong.

Wow 6 lugs have finally made their way to compact truck wheels

@devildog5354

Ай бұрын

I have six on my 2006 Nissan Frontier...

@thedude1553

Ай бұрын

LOL my 2005 Taco had em

@demal1010

Ай бұрын

@@thedude1553 @devildog5354 actually scratch that this is more midsize than compact

why does it look like a full size truck? Playing in Mercedes territory w/$50k 4-cyl trickery....

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

I think the truck in this video is $37K

@1eyedwilli3

Ай бұрын

@@ytj22 $43,850. It STARTS at $37k, but dealers NEVER stock the bare-bones models. The cheapest one I can find is a 4 door almost bare SR5 in Ohio for $42,999.

taller bedsides and an available manual,bout the only plus

That really is a good looking truck. Probably perfect. I get the SR5 or TRD sport for best value with 4x4.

So this is what we call a lifted truck. We clearly have different definitions of what lifted means. Also those prices are just suggestions. Add another 10% for market adjustments.

@edhcb9359

Ай бұрын

You can get the Tacoma discounted off MSRP already.

@moejr1974

Ай бұрын

Those market adjustments are done.

@allentoyokawa9068

Ай бұрын

@@edhcb9359 No you can't lol

@allentoyokawa9068

Ай бұрын

Worth every penny

@edhcb9359

Ай бұрын

@@allentoyokawa9068 You need to watch some other automotive channels. Lots are full of discounted 2024’s.

On the tundra frame? So its a tundra. Next year as big as the f-550...

This sounds more like a commercial by fanboys for Toyota Tacoma

a four cylinder turbo is what they put in Subarus. I don't want a Subaru engine in my truck

@carboydorifutoparty3976

Ай бұрын

Subaru baja?

If you ever wanted to know what a 4 banger would be like in a tundra this would be it 😂

These prices 😭

Why does the narrator say this truck had a leaf spring suspension? The SR5 double cab has a multi-link coil spring suspension.

@bradwart

Ай бұрын

You can see the rear leaf springs in the steering test.

@jmpattillo

Ай бұрын

@@bradwart those are the suspension links. The only double cab with leaf springs is the SR. All the xtra cab models also have leafs

@martin4749

Ай бұрын

@@jmpattillo yep. facts.

@toronado455

Ай бұрын

It's confusing to say the least. JD says "with its standard leaf spring suspension" which is true for Tacoma in general since all base model SR trucks have leaf springs, however he says it like he's talking about the *SR5* truck they are testing, which might just be an error in the VO they didn't catch.

If i was looking for a mid size truck I'd compare the Tacoma with a Nissan Frontier. Then I'd look for an older Tundra with the V8. From there I'd make my choice. Probably go with the Tundra so I wouldn't care if it got scratched. It's a truck, you haul crap and it gets war wounds. Get over it. Lots of choices out there, no need to spend 60k. Be smart and remember it's just a truck and not some wood polished French museum piece.

They really phoned in the styling on this one. Nothing really unique, it just looks like Tundra Jr.

If Toyota is smart they would focus on producing more of the TRD Off-road Premium Hybrid, that’s the sweet spot and no other truck can match it’s unique spot

Send it to the crusher

Get a Tundra and get more capability space and almost the same fuel economy.

No thanks, no to turbos

That fish hook tattoo was 🔥! Cool truck, too

@rushmatic

Ай бұрын

What a weird thing to notice and bring attention too.

@Policearegood-mt6kx

Ай бұрын

Kinda looked like a prison tatt.

50 K ? May as well buy an F 150 !

What if Tacoma and Tundra pickups as well as the 4Runner and Land Cruiser 250 each got the even hotter GR treatment (GR-X could be the bestial off-road capable equivalent of the regular albeit track-focused GR) in case TRD Pro and Trailhunter aren't bestial enough against Ford's Raptor family?

That thing has way to much going on in the styling department in my opinion.

So it's taco in name only with a 2.4 liter 4cyl engine that is fit to power nothing bigger than a Rav4 I'm going by toyotas past guidelines for automobiles 4.0 liter V6 Tacoma why not 3.5 liter V6 towing ability not adequate

Bigger and uglier than ever. I don’t want a turbo either. The addition heat, compression etc will shorten the engine life. Bring the basic Toyota Stout or something similar to the US.

@schollsnsocks

Ай бұрын

Agreed Toyotas going like the big three !! 4 cyl turbo 8 speed transmissions high tech electronics !! Gimme the old school V6 5 speed transmissions not all glitzy designs !! Say what ya will but the older Tachomas will still be on the road for a long time while these newer designed Tachomas will be in the shop getting the engines n transmission repaired !!

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

Would this engine have been designed with additional compression and heat in mind?

@1eyedwilli3

Ай бұрын

@@ytj22 This engine is the same one used on lexus 4 door sedans....

@ytj22

Ай бұрын

@@1eyedwilli3 except with beefier internals and beefier turbocharger.

23 mpg hwy? Lol

Toyota used to be affordable and reliable. Can't say that any longer... Made in Mexico with turbo engine. Quality went downhill faster than you can say " Andale Arriba Arriba !!! "

Guess I'll keep my '98 Taco for a while longer!

The most expensive 4 banger truck ever, hard pass. Hecho en Mexico as well.

I don’t care about what others might think but that truck doesn’t deserve to be called Tacoma. Only time will tell if it’s reliable

With this new Tacoma having grown yet another half a size, I think there's plenty of market space underneath it for a truly compact two-seater or extra-cab truck. Build it on the Prius platform, keep it low-spec and utilitarian, and it'll be a great rival for the Ford Maverick. A Toyota Taquito starting at $25k?

@devildog5354

Ай бұрын

It's not that much bigger than the prior gen; less than an inch in overall length, about 2.5 inches in width...

@toronado455

Ай бұрын

There may be a Toyota Stout coming, but it's not going to be based on the Prius.

When people say these have gotten too expensive I think it's mainly because they want all the higher-trim frills. $32k to start for a base model is pretty reasonable and it probably has everything you need.

@truth3598

Ай бұрын

If its made in Mexico, it better be cheaper, cause quality is going to be lower

@GlennC789

Ай бұрын

@@truth3598 Scotty, is that you?

@1eyedwilli3

Ай бұрын

Except you can't find one for $32k. Dealers do not stock the cheaper models. They don't make anything off them. The cheapest one I can find is almost bare bones and its $43k...

I am afraid Toyota has priced me out. I cannot see paying $50k MSRP for a 4x4 SR5. This is before Dealer Markup and add ons.

Check out the TFL test. Junk

Sucks they aren’t made here at the TMMTX plant anymore. 😔 Also, I hope people take that uglyass apron off too, it’s seriously an eyesore.