That’s a crappy 4H if it can’t handle Toquerville Falls road. There’s nothing on that road that would make me use 4L in my Land Cruiser. Hopefully we’ll see Toyota dial in these new trucks soon. If I was buying a medium truck today I’d get a ZR2 Bison or Ranger Raptor over the G4 Tacoma, and my last 5 cars have all been Toyota or Lexus.

Ok, I see you eventually went to low range and solved the problem. Good seeing the 2 gens together. In my 3rd Gen, I take off the mud flaps and add my hitch skid to the receiver to save the rear bumper I put the mud flaps back on when the trip is complete.. Good video overall. I just get perplexed seeing folks try to crawl in 4HI. But you figured it out and completed the trail. That’s cool.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

Yeah I mentioned at the end that I’ve never really rock crawled before. I’ve always had trucks and done a ton of dirt roads, mud and snow but never really crawled. I’ve also been taught that you don’t put it in 4L till you get stuck😂 I do have a pretty decent understanding of how the machine works this so after it overheated I wondered if the lower gear ratio would make it so it didn’t have to work as hard and it worked👍 It was cool to take the 2 trucks out and compare them. And as much as I like my 4th gen I have to say, that 3rd gen pro is beautiful. But his mudflaps were definitely in the way😂 I have a video where I kinda complained about how the 4th gen mudflaps don’t do jack for containing the rocks and stuff. But they were definitely better at not hitting thing on the trail😂 Thanks for watching!

Side by side the gen 3 still looks better to me,hard pass on gen 4

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

I like the looks of that 3rd gen pro for sure

Brother. Tell me you weren’t crawling in 4H. Gotta put her in 4L

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

What an idiot😂

@michaeljensen1123

9 күн бұрын

Ok just got to 6:40. Guess you were in 4L!

@michaeljensen1123

9 күн бұрын

Such an idiot

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

@@michaeljensen1123 lol I wasn’t at first but once I put it in 4L it did way better and ran nice and cool

@1FiftyOverland

8 күн бұрын

A real truck would have still made it over that in 4hi.

This is good to know, I'm getting prepped to go cross country in my '24 TRD OR where I'll spend the next couple weeks in the Appalachian Mountains on trails/primitive roads.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

That’s awesome! Yeah make sure you put it in 4L when you’re crawling. And have fun!

@jackcrackerman

8 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 also I'm already adjusting one of my clusters to keep a closer eye on transmission temps when offroading.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

@jackcrackerman that’s a good idea. I like the page I showed in my gauges with all the temperatures. I usually use that for towing. I didn’t even think to use it for off-roading😂

This shock combo changed life for my 3rd Gen OR. I bought it as many shock experts/outlets said "This is the best bang for buck w/ shocks". Btw, did not lift truck (265/75R16 tires), ordered them preassembled and installed myself. Bilstein Shocks 6112/5160 F/R

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

That is good to know! Are they a softer ride? I want something more like a raptor.

@tim3308

9 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 When I installed them I ran over the consistent potholes, dips, etc that I do on my normal hunting route ( knew to my bones what they felt like on stock shocks). I knew it would be improved, but I was shocked (pun!) how much improved. Really glad I chose this combo over the ubiquitous Bilstein 5100's that your read about on most Tacoma sites (lot of young guys go for that due to price alone). The 6112/5160 is the next level - "the bang for the buck" basically means you are now in the realm of the higher quality stuff but not paying the "stupid" (take it for what it is) high dollar stuff like Fox, etc. or "the point of diminishing returns". The sweet spot I feel (you know, -what Tacoma pricing used to be like - ha!). Also w/ no lift to pre stretch them, the ride is REALLY comfortable - as by definition, they have a lot to give.

@tim3308

9 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZWN1tuYZtLfcpM.html

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

@@tim3308 that’s awesome! I have looked into a lot of different suspension setups. I have kind of landed on king suspension. But I might have to dig into the bilsteins!

@tim3308

8 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 Great channel for shock advice and they often giving very practical advice (hinting some shocks are just priced ridiculous): www.youtube.com/@ShockSurplus

*So before this gets misinterpreted as "New Tacoma transmissions overheats" the wrong range was selected... going uphill in slow-motion in 4H will give any car an overheat warning... I do believe the user is relatively new to offroading and this is a great lesson*

@jimmycline4778

5 күн бұрын

YOU STILL SHOULDNT BE OVER HEATING EVEN IF YOU PUT IT IN WRONG RANGE, MY NEW COLORADO TRAIL BOSS NEVER OVER HEATS NO MATTER WHAT RANGE ETC ETC AND I LIVE IN PHOENIX ARIZONA THE HOTTEST CITY N THE U.S. ✌️

@dcl97

4 күн бұрын

I did that trail last month and didn't even put my Bronco in 4wd. 2wd, locked rear was fine. I don't know how the taco is geared, but there is nothing super steap there. Certainly nothing that should require low range. Would have made it easier sure, and put less stress on the truck, but also there is a guy in a lifted Subaru who has done that trail several times at least...sooooo not sure not being in low range is a great excuse.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

4 күн бұрын

@dcl97 unfortunately you can’t lock the rear diff on the taco unless you’re in 4low. I bet it would have made it in 2wd locked

@DJR5280

4 күн бұрын

Is this what Toyota fans boys are gonna start doing? Making excuses? Just like they blamed the TFL guys for the differential failing because they had the truck in Rock Mode. If this were GM, Ford or Nissan all the Toyota fan boys would be calling it unreliable junk

@DJR5280

4 күн бұрын

@@jimmycline4778That’s good to know. I’m moving from Denver to Phoenix and have been thinking of getting a Colorado but wasn’t sure how the Turbo did in that heat

Now with the full coil suspension on the 4th gen do you notice a difference over the 3rd gen leaf spring

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

I don’t really feel like I can make a fair comparison. My 22 that I had was an sr5 and obviously this 24 is an offroad. So I didn’t have the bilsteins before. But I do feel like the 24 rides better than the little bit of experience I have driving the 3rd gen off roads.

Great Video! After seeing the 3rd Gen next to a 4th Gen I think I still love my 3rd Gen better. You definitely needed to be in 4 low for the hills you climbed so I think the trans getting hot could be contributed to that. Could you do another video at Sand Hollow with both trucks?

@counterfeitcowboy1362

3 күн бұрын

Thank you! We definitely can! Are there any trails you want to see?

Toquerville Falls looks sick🔥 definitely have to add that to the list!

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

Bro it was so fun! I want to go try something harder now😂

Hey is there a video of your friends 23 Tacoma on how he did the black roof wrap

@counterfeitcowboy1362

5 күн бұрын

There isn’t. His buddy did it. The wrap guys Instagram is stonewraps23

Damn , I am thinking about the 24 pro .. I might wait until next year with all these issues

Eco mode will be the death of these transmission

I was waiting for a car to pass you. I’m seen almost everything at the Falls.

In the middle of buying one. I don’t know if I should go with the upgrade or the premium. Premium is really expensive and I really don’t want the power tail gate. I also don’t want the 360 camera but I do want everything else and the front camera.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

Yeah that’s a tough one. My least favorite feature in the premium package is probably the power tailgate. It can be handy for loading the dogs tho😂 I love the 360 camera. I used the heck out of that camera on this trail. It helps you see the rocks to the side of the truck. That was one of the main reasons I got the premium package. It also has a bed camera.

crawled harder than this before in 3rd gen taco on 4hi no transmission temp problems

Excellent video. Even though the Tacoma was having some heat discomfort, it kept your butt cool. That's a Toyota!

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

Thanks Norman! This is the longest I’ve ever spent editing a video😂 yeah. The Taco was putting me first😂

Fun at 2 MPH!! Those Tacos need different drivers!

@jimmycline4778

5 күн бұрын

Seri said I average 3.5 mph while walking and I am just a man , I can go to more hard places and faster than a 4x4 Tacoma!

What was the ambient temp that day?

@counterfeitcowboy1362

6 күн бұрын

It was about 90 degrees

4low 4low 4low when offroading otherwise transmissions temps shoot up. Does not matter make or model. 3rd gen does not have trans temp gauge so your buddy really did not know how his was doing other then it did not stick him in limp mode.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

That is fair! I noticed that he didn’t have a trans temp gauge but for some reason I didn’t even think that his could have been hot too. I guess the only difference is mine went into limp mode for a second and his didn’t. And that could be attributed to the difference in 4x4 systems that we have since learned about😂. Thanks for the input!

Guarantee if you plug in an obd2 tool to monitor the trans temp both will run the same temps. The new truck just tells you when you running hot. The old one doesnt say anything to you when its hot. Also 4Hi is recommended for high speed traction limited situations. Not crawl

@ryanb8736

6 күн бұрын

If it’s blinking too hot, it’s too hot. Handful of people have overheated them too. Most were towing with them when they overheated. Toyota is working on a recall on these trucks.

Good video, you're learning. I have to say that 3rd gen looked and sounded like a real truck. I just don't like the sound of that 4th gen engine.

And that was on what looks like stock size tires. If you were on 35’s or 37’s that thing would be super hot.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

Yeah. I wonder if the 35s/37s would be ok in 4L

@HD-on2eg

8 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 there was a guy that was just running them on the street and was having overheating issues

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

@@HD-on2eg is that the runnin4tacos guy?

@HD-on2eg

8 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 I don’t remember exactly.

@billw8476

8 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 not without a re-gear

Stock tires or 285s. I just put 285s on my 24 offroad manual quite a difference

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

I’m just running stock wheels and tires. I’ve heard those 285s are awesome. Are you just running a level kit?

@RyanLarivee

8 күн бұрын

Stock wheels no level kit no rubbing even with the mud flaps on. Open Country At3

I would change the boiled trans fluid to be safe.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

I’ve thought about that😬 that’s probably not a bad idea

@WyLEE08

8 күн бұрын

@@counterfeitcowboy1362 When I boiled my trans fluid in my Taco towing I changed it and went another 100K miles and sold it with no issues.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

7 күн бұрын

It wasn't "boiled" ... it got hot... the entire truck will go into limp mode to protect the fluid and transmission... that's why it wouldn't move on him... limp mode

@WyLEE08

7 күн бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I would assume it did. Why would you roll the dice on a brand new truck? That event was recorded by the truck and Toyota will know that should there be further trans issues. What is FACT trans fluid got too hot, 230+degrees F (about 50 degrees above optimal temp) causing the Taco to stop moving. Call it boiled fluid or call it baked it would be out of my transmission.

@lorenzoronpedrique2952

6 күн бұрын

I will have to agree with you. Just to be safe

3rd gen all day and i love my 3rd gen the looks sooo good

Not good that the 4th gen tranny overheated like that, i noticed your dash said 85°. Thats not hot at all. I live in Phx and I go wheeling at Rolls OHV which is much harder than Tourqer Falls. Im also pushing 35'' tires, steel skid plates front to back, steel sliders, Roof rack and 35" spare. Even fully loaded with full camping gear, i have never gotten a heat code. I get the feeling Toyota rushed this truck into production.

3:15 Bro you Need to take it to dealer and do a transmission fluid change. Probably dark after that.

Your truck overheated because you were crawling in 4-wheel Hi. Off-roading 101.

@SoCaltaco65

8 күн бұрын

How else are you going to get more hits on youtube?

@xMrFuzZyKitteH

8 күн бұрын

I though u only use 4L when in steep uphills?

@truthnow902

7 күн бұрын

Off-road 101 bring bring a real truck to go off-roading next time not something that's made for a princess!!!!

@truthnow902

7 күн бұрын

@@xMrFuzZyKitteH you only use for low when you're pulling heavy weight or you're forcing the transmission pulling or pushing something that's heavy, but that rule does not apply to the new Tacoma do you need to put in 4 Low when you're trying to get over a Little Rock!!!!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

7 күн бұрын

​@@xMrFuzZyKitteHsteep uphill or downhill to engine brake... the camera flattens out the steepness of the trail here

Moab next? Fun video to make!

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

Heck yeah! Let’s go!

You need rocksliders if you keep doing trails like this. Eventually, you will have a hard strike to the rocker panel.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

31 минут бұрын

Coming soon! That’s why I was going so slow. People are hating on my driving. I was just taking it easy since I had no protection😂

3:43 I know the problem. Your buddy did much better because he was in 4-Low. You can see you were in 4-High. Driving on these terrains is why you did so bad. You need low gear for this.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

Yeah that’s kinda what I decided after the fact. I talked about it at the end of the video. Once I put it in 4L it was cool as could be and we crawled over as bad or worse terrain. Thanks for watching!👍

@jmpattillo

9 күн бұрын

This is it. TFL did a video on a preproduction limited when the 2024s first came out. There is a huge difference in the transmission control/ traction software between 4hi and 4lo. It was like night and day.

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

@@jmpattillo that makes sense. I did a drag race video against this same pro and for kicks and giggles we did a 4x4 slow drag to see which one would crawl slower. The 4th gen was slower in 4L and faster in 4h. So it seems like the 4L has a wider range than the 3rd gen and the 4 high is geared higher

Corolla vs older Tacoma

@stevehassell3477

16 сағат бұрын

You can actually take a Corolla up that road

That gravel road looks tough lol Once you get the new off that truck I hope you hit some real trails to see if it's worthy.

Man toyota hates 4 high so much they blow up your trans if you use it😂

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

Yeah! F that 4high!😂

Yea the 3rd gen looks way better

Hey...seeing more transmission issues! Overheating and total failures occurring

If crawling is your off road passion, get solid axle.

Their is video after video of new Tacoma transmissions blowing up, video after video of new Tundra motors blowing up! Toyota is not considered reliable anymore! 😢

Nice adventure. Not impressed by 4th gen trans overheating. At least you didn't get stuck out there....have fun and be safe!

@counterfeitcowboy1362

9 күн бұрын

It was so fun! Yeah I’m glad it was just a temporary issue. And I’m glad it protected itself so I didn’t hurt it😂 once I put it in 4L it was much happier. The more ya know😂

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

7 күн бұрын

It wasn't the truck... the wrong range was selected... any truck going in slow motion in 4H will give an overheat warning

@richardstralow6314

7 күн бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD lol.....that's a huge stretch and bad excuse!

Driver error driving in 4h

4lo !!! Or crawl. Thats why that happened.

user error

Hi

@counterfeitcowboy1362

8 күн бұрын

Hey bud😂

You put stuff up there for us to read. But you don't leave it long enough for us to read it., So maybe don't even put it up there.

Why would anyone buy a truck that is overpriced with engine and transmission failures not to mention replacing a strong V6 and V8 with a turbo L4 because their engineers apparently are not smart enough to design. They created an electric truck and claimed specifications that are borderline fraud. I have owned Toyota trucks for over 20 years to include Tacoma’s and Tundras but I just replaced my old Tundra with a Honda Ridgeline Black Edition and I am very pleased with it to include the V6. I am done with Toyota Trucks they are much too arrogant and absolutely ignore the customer's wants and needs. Over the years when I have complained about issues and I address the executives I always get a call from a woman admin type for the executive office with boiler plate excuses and apologies. Toyota does not care about its customers just the bottom line. They will not rein in their rogue dealers who add on exorbitant markups, fees and addons claiming they have no leverage which is ridiculous. If it is true than Toyota attorneys and management do not know how to write contracts or again just don't care. I am done with Toyota trucks let those with money to throw away or burn buy them. IMHO.

That’s sad😢

Another one with overheating transmission. I thought Toyota tested these? This is the 6th one so far with issues.

Sorry guys, but I don’t think you guys know how to drive

3g all the way iys a proven motor and transmission the 4th toyota blew it with a 4 cylinder and a turbo that later down the line will not be able to sustain a high milage!!

Toyota making Ford look like it makes a reliable truck. Lol

The transmission should not have overheated 4 high should have done it no problem it wasn't big enough for the transmission to overheat but it's not a secret let the new Tacoma truck is garbage four-cylinder turbo motor with a crap transmission that overheats absolute garbage I wouldn't buy that if it was the last truck on the planet Toyota needs to wake up cuz they're losing sales and everyone else is going to pass them!!!

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

7 күн бұрын

depends on how slow he was going and how steep the trail was... the camera flattens out the trail... if it was steep you can't lug along in slow motion uphill for too long without any trucks transmission getting hot.

@truthnow902

7 күн бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD yeah but it didn't look very steep at all and I also noticed it did not take long for two reasons that wasn't even much pressure on the transmission, the older generation Tacoma sorry the third generation did the same climb in the transmission did not overheat. Also in the case what if the vehicle is all wheel drive and it doesn't have a low like the Honda Ridgeline or SUVs with all-wheel drive they would make it up there no problem this is the first time on something like this I heard of a transmission overheating, without pulling any load at all or pushing large amounts of snow. We should not fool ourselves does transmission is not very good at all and other people have complained about the transmission overheating as well so this truck is not the first one other people's Transmissions also went on them they needed a full replacement. It's obvious to me Toyota does not care about quality anymore!!!!

@thewireman134

7 күн бұрын

Loving my new Canyon Denali. It's a beast!

Cannot even pay me to buy that truck with a four banger no more power than that it sounds like a broken sewing machine it’s really sad that Toyota did this to their best selling vehicle. I am so glad I bought a 2023 and did not wait for the 2024

@kevinbradley8613

8 күн бұрын

You should try driving one before you judge. I’m glad you like your 3rd gen. They’re great trucks, but in my objective opinion, the “four banger” actually sounds better than the v6, and it makes a decent bit more torque (especially at low rpms) and the exact same power as the v6 (also at lower rpms). There’s a lot of BS going around about these new trucks, and almost 100% of it is completely unfounded. Go drive one yourself and then be the critic all you want, but until you do, you’re just speaking foolishness.

@beexiong2995

7 күн бұрын

Sorry but my past 3rd gen bogs at sea level because no torque. It feels like a toyota sienna with 7 passengers in it

@Rey-me3rj

7 күн бұрын

Get it Tuned

4th gen sucks. 3rd gen all day

@terrymac6866

4 күн бұрын

This is funny because based on all the videos I see the 4th gen fixes a lot of the 3rd gen's issues.

Your transmission over heated because it is a piece of junk. Trade it in while you can.