2023 Top Value Bikes: A Roundtable Discussion | 2023 Value Bike Field Test
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All five bikes have been tested individually, now its time to stack them head to head and see which bikes our testers liked the most.
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YT Jeffsy Core 2 is on sale right now for $1999, Fox 36 Performance fork and Float X equipped 150/150 travel. Better value than the Status and a way better climber too!
Weird how they forget to mention the Capra they actually rode is $1999 and available in L and XL. Best value for sure. The status 160 they rode is 3k. There's a 160 with a dpx 2 for 2250$. Still an amazing deal but sold out in every size...
Thanks for another cool video... want to say I really like deep knowledge and accurate feedback from Dario... your team was awesome and now is even better... 🙌 Thanks ⭐
Nice work! Could you do a hardcore hardtail field test? That would make a huge difference. There not many big ones out there and I have the feeling you are one of the few, who could make it happen and deliver in a way, not many can 💪🏾😘
thanks guys for the great no BS reveiws. I got my status 160 back in march and absolutely agree I with your verdict on it.
Ride a s4 status here and you get used to the weird geo pretty quick, most fun and playful bike I’ve ever ridden and not too bad to climb if u slam the seat forward. Changed the nx for a Gx derailleur and some mt7s instead of the codes and couldn’t be happier with it
Great job guys, I absolutely love my Marin RiftZone XR couldn’t be happier, after seeing your video and others I knew I had to have it, keep doing what your doing love it 🤘🤘
Upgrade the internals of the Vitus fork, and get a longer dropper post. Can be done for $500 Pads and rotors when the time comes. Profit
Really cool, I would be happy to own any one of those bikes!
Well that was a sales pitch for the Specialized Status. Way to make your sponsor happy.
I enjoy the status..slapped a 36 factory and an X2 factory..changed the DT and replaced the codes with the TRPs..Super fun
Great video and excellent reviews. I’ve had my Mythique for a few months now and have zero complaints. Great overall bike that does everything really good.
@gidonzd
7 ай бұрын
How does it climb? Do you feel it's a good climber?
Please do the generations comparison of Santa Cruz Nomad as discussed in "Altitude vs Slash vs Nomad vs Shore vs Spindrift: Round Table Discussion | 2021 Field Test" video. That would be so awesome so assess the generational changes of a legendary bike like that.
Totally understand factoring in the sale prices there are some amazing deals going on I picked up a Canyon spectral 29 cf7 in early June for $2600 USD if you can be patient
I ride the S2 Status 160 and it felt much more natural than PB is experiencing. Still wonky but I adjusted pretty quickly. My $500 extra went to a dropper, shorter cranks and GX derailleur upgrade.
@ervin7178
Жыл бұрын
The smaller sizes have more balanced geo because the chain stays are a bit more proportional
@tomasstraka5244
Жыл бұрын
because the S2 has 40mm shorter reach and same chainstay as the S4 so it feels balanced...
@letsgo_inc
Жыл бұрын
@@tomasstraka5244 i am aware of why that is. I was just nothing my experience with it and that even in the smaller sizes, you do feel the weirdness.
Concerning the Status 160, might you find that the bike climbs more efficiently if you guys were short like me and had tested a size small frame with 437mm of reach instead of a size large with 487mm of reach? I currently ride a Specialized Fuse and I do a fair amount of technical climbing. That bike has a 74° seat tube angle and it's fine for me so the 76° seat tube on the Status would be a welcome upgrade.
8:47 on the subject of modifying the Status, you can actually swap the chainstay for one from a 2017 Specialized Enduro 29er (part# S171500001). That could give Dario the longer rear end he wants, might drop the BB if you keep the mullet setup though. Or just run full 29, which is what I did, and it made the bike much more capable for me
@user-nf3oq2ge3g
Жыл бұрын
This is the stuff I like, good info
@georgedaswani9155
Жыл бұрын
@@user-nf3oq2ge3g not sure why anybody wont to do that given you can get the latest STUMPY EVO ALLOY frames for around 1300$ right now.
@06HokieMTB
11 ай бұрын
@scottpetrie1607... where did you buy the 2017 Specialized Enduro 29er chainstay (part# S171500001)? Mind if I ask how much? Direct swap/replacement and works with the seat stays? Looking at the geo chart for the 2017 Enduro, looks like that would add 6mm to the chainstays. Going with a full 29er rear end would stand the bike up, steepening STA/HTA, raising the BB... the 29er rear wheel would make it "feel" like there was more bike behind you.
@scottpetrie1607
11 ай бұрын
@@06HokieMTB the MY17 Enduro 29 and 27.5 shared the same seat stays, and AFAIK the only difference between the two was the chainstay length. Also, I figured lengthening the chainstay would drop the BB, thereby accounting for the taller 29” wheel somewhat. Anyway, felt good to me! Sourced through a LBS
@06HokieMTB
11 ай бұрын
Are you running the flip chip in high or low? Mind measuring your static (unsagged) STA and HTA with your phone? This has me intrigued… I could run full 29er for normal days and simply swap the 27.5 rear for when I’m riding the lifts at bike parks
Did you have to leave out the Ripmo AF because it would win for sure??
How does the Rocky muntain element compare with these?
Love my status 140 and they totally nailed it saying you need to find trails that meet its geometry. Works well for me and what I like but I could see someone not being into this bike especially with how it climbs hahah
@nickshevchenko1993
Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the same bike but coming from a 2021 Rocky Mountain slayer the status is a rocket up hill. And for descents the mullet makes it one of the most fun bikes I’ve ever ridden
the base Capra for 1999 may be the actual value winner
Curious how the Staus 140 would compare. Anyone have experience with the 140 vs 160?
Reviews with Dario are an absolute W
Was expecting to see the Commencal Meta TR 😢
Status new bike used price and the 29 conversion might make this bike phenomenal,
status frame kits are only 850 usd i saw. damn good price imo
@Emolokz
2 ай бұрын
And they just cleared out a ton for $420 nine months later absolutely bonkers deal, even if you got a dpx2 model rather than a float x model.
Should have Marin alpine trail or Merida 140 My pick from this lot is rift zone 🥇. Sensor 🥈. Capra 🥉
You should really look at the cube stereo one77 in the Aluminium variant you can get it whith fox Suspension and 170mm of Travel For 3200€.
could you review the Polygon Siskiu DSE FS?
There seems to be a pattern of the bike with the least travel and least plush suspension being fastest, based on multiple group tests like this.
Nice video
Vitus ftw. Glad to be part of the team, love mine 💪🏽
@lukelloyd7934
Жыл бұрын
Team? You're a customer lol
@AdventureRich
Жыл бұрын
@@lukelloyd7934 thanks for the brutal reality 🚶🏽♂️
Please review canyon neuron aluminum
You missed a Canyon Spectral. :-(
@hambo76
Жыл бұрын
Canyon's US lineup is a complete mess.
no Giant Trance X?
Guys, love the way you've been covering the lower/middle ground the last few videos. Shame some of the other well-known shill outfits don't understand the sport and the full spectrum of users and budgets!
@the_yesnt1358
8 ай бұрын
Who do you consider shills?
Dude on the right sounds JUST LIKE David Schwimmer. It drove me crazy for 10 minutes, then I figured it out. 😅
Why is noone talking about the Canyon Torque Mullet AL5? Same price with similar specs to the Capra Core 1
I think that having parts which you need/want to change immediately should count massively against it. Even more so if they aren't parts which are likely to be replaced in a shorter space of time as consumables (like tires, grips etc). The waste, of both money and materials, that is caused is utterly needless.
okay but not of them are offering a fs frame for 750 like the status is though.......
Let's go status!
It went together easily in less than an hour. kzread.infoUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
The static. Hmm. Similar to the FUSE comp. Long. Needs proper trails to utilize the downhill prow ness. My fuse is a big bike. For a medium.
In 2019 $1500 was a budget bike, now $3000 is lol! Also why is the RS Pike such a bad fork?
@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862
Жыл бұрын
Bikeflation
who killed mike?
Everywhere I look you can buy that GT for under $2k……
@devinbyrnes8058
Жыл бұрын
They are going strictly by MSRP or whatever you can get it for off the manufacturer's website. Definitely hurts the GT since they like to let their dealers play the "I can let you have this for 500$ under MSRP" game.
My YT Capra broke immediately and they suck to deal with at YT Built and assembled in Taiwan not Germany or California Heavy junk
owning a status... its the most arrogant and attitude filled bike ive ever ridden and i LOVE IT.
@derDKP
Жыл бұрын
This guy wears pit vipers
@MicajahMcCurry
Жыл бұрын
@@derDKP I was born in pit vipers
Marin
Where’s the other Mike??? C’mon he was Pinkbike
@virag1132
Жыл бұрын
it's weird
Gt bikes puede mejorar,debe dejar de utilizar componentes de gama baja del año 2016 como el eje de cuadrado que es igual al que usa la bicicleta de mi hermanita,es como si intencionalmente quieran qué su producto sea descartado.
Not a complaint, just a sugestion: Dario, on the end of your sentences it sounds like you are talking without air in your lungs. Compare with the other two presenters. Sometimes its hard to understand what you are saying..... There´s always room to improve, even if it is on the aspect of presenter of such an awesome program. Cheers guys!
@All_the_bikes_are_cool
Жыл бұрын
apart from this suggestion... hows Dario deep feedback and knowledge? Speaking is often related to your background or even disabilities... 🤔 I personally prefer super pro and deep feedback with unperfected but real voice than another fake guru of cycling with beautiful marketing face and voice. What your opinion?
@SAMIRDH1981
Жыл бұрын
@@All_the_bikes_are_cool Good feedback and knowledge form the trio. Like i said, there´s always room for improvement. Sometimes, my dificulty hearing is the same as many other viewers. Just something to think about.
@TD05SSLegacy
Жыл бұрын
Dario’s seems pretty savvy and talented imho. I guess he’s a writer too. Great team member. I have been able to understand his diction as well.
Stop mocking the status for its geo. Even the old status used to be a big hitter and a bit of a hooligan. It was never supposed to be an efficient pedaling bike.
@nicks8026
Жыл бұрын
No one is mocking it. They’re just pointing out its strengths and shortcomings.
@justinlascala2288
Жыл бұрын
It was the wrong bike for me. Love my Ripmo af
Status joke is tired.
Just get the Status and you'll be set for at least 5 years of mountainbiking
Each and every Elan ski bears the inscription "Handcrafted in the Slovenian Alps". It’s a symbol of pride and these words say it all. Mountains are a permanent source of inspiration I’m sick of Taiwan garbage, gorilla gravity is a bike you can take pride in, do the Taiwanese people ride these bikes? No
These aren't budget or value bikes, yes the terms are subjective but over $2k USD isn't a small budget for a pedal powered vehicle.
YT who?
you lost me at 'value bikes' and '3000 bucks'
@ghostAFsky
Жыл бұрын
That's the market, like it or not...
@KlintonSilvey
Жыл бұрын
It's reality. These aren't made to go ride the gravel path around your local city park
@paulblackwood46
Жыл бұрын
@@KlintonSilvey I didn't come here to argue. Maybe I'm confusing value with budget. It's all subjective. I live 15 mins from Glentress, my Jekyll has never seen my city park.
@FreakBasti
Жыл бұрын
Value does not mean budget. This test is aiming at the sweet spot for price vs performance.
@kmsbailey405
Жыл бұрын
Talking smack about spray cheese. You're just jealous 😂
Holy crap! Please get rid of Henry and the other dude with no personality! I got to unsubscribe and block soon! Seriously!… what happened to Mike Levy ?!! And truly I can’t watch anything with Henry!!!
The sad part is that these pro reviewers didnt even give respect to the Vitus company and searched how its properly pronounced.