TIMELINE: INTRO 0:00 FIRST IMPRESSIONS 0:38 OUTSIDE THE TOWN 03:40 GRAVEL ROAD 21:48 BACK TO ASPHALT 37:00 CONCLUSIONS 42:49

The weight is less relevant than where the weight is. For example, the Yamaha T7 weighs less but is harder to pick up because it carries it's weight much higher. Specs don't tell the whole story.

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

After having a heavy bike with low weight and after riding this heavier bike also with low weight I prefer a lighter bike no matter where the weight it's positioned

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

he weight it's there, no matter low, high, from any perception I could think of. I also tested the Tenere 700 many times and yes, seems heavier due to high weight it's true. I owened a very havy bike - the HONDA NC750X with very low weight positioned, and the V-Strom seemed the same as the NC750X in terms of weight. For a stronger person perhaps weight it's not an issue, but for me it is. The V-Strom it's a brilliant bike, with better features and specs that Transalp, it's a matter of choice, preferences, emotion. For example when I went back to my Transalp I've missed the gear shifting from Suzuki, and the gear-box refinement somehow...Anyway the bike it's just a tool it must deserve it's purpose.

It's the 800DE all the way for me. Once you add the accessories on the Transalp that the 800DE already has, the weight difference is less. Also, the 800DE has a larger fuel tank. If you add to the Transalp the accessories to match the 800DE Adventure, the price is the same. The Suzuki has a much better suspension, torque curve, and you don't have the fueling issues. An ADV bike should not make its power with high revs, the Honda would be a nightmare on BDR type trips.

@cranedaddy678

8 ай бұрын

Preach it!

@PisgahGravelProject

7 ай бұрын

The power curve is something I was trying to explain to my friend who has the new xl750. His bike is really a is an awesome commuter bike that can do gravel roads well. The power curve, air filter location, and weird tech (modes,TC, abs on/off), limited suspension make the XL750 less desirable than the 800DE for me. The major bonus the XL750 has is......the instant aftermarket support for the Honda. Those of us who bought the DE are a bit pissed off that the aftermarket is nearly nonexistent. Oem gaurds are all sold out, SWmotoech is just now getting around to making plates/guards. There is no company that makes a good 2point metal framed handguard. Barkbusters told me a month out in August. It is now almost December and they will not respond to a simple email asking when they'll be out. Zeta makes some, but.like the others....they're mounted inside of the barweights, which looks hideous and is unacceptable. I am just looking for 2point guards that mount on the outside of the oem bars. I am aware I can mount fasstflexx bars and their handguards. I'm not interested in spending 600dollars US on simply trying to protect my clutch and brake lever. Also would like a simple 'decat' mid pipe. There are 4 aftermarket slip on exhaust options I am aware of, 1 aftermarket header. I am not interested in a header. I am not interested in having to re-flash the ECU. I just want to delete the cat with a simple midpipe, and add a slip on. Evidently, that is too much to ask for. The bike has been out for a year, and there are hardly any footpegs, crashbars, luggage racks, plates, hamdguards, headlight protection, brake pads, airfilters ect ect. The XL750 has nearly every option avaliable, and it has been stateside for a month. The DE has been here nearly a year, and hardly nothing avaliable. I would have kept the pos t7 had I known getting aftermarket parts would have been like this.

Apsolutely it's better than the transalp, almost in every aspect!

@jonwoodworker

9 ай бұрын

Or add all the accessories that the 800DE already has or put the same size gas tank on the Transalp and the weight advantage is gone.

@pigmeal2224

7 ай бұрын

Especially airbox access ... 😉👌👌👌🥂🥂

You spent the whole video justifying to yourself why you picked the Transalp over the Vstrom.

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

You could be right

@marktaylor4277

9 ай бұрын

I couldn't watch the review in one sitting, I found it quite repetitive and thus longer than it really needed to be and also the 'eeerrrmmm's were getting tedious - though this is not a criticism as I realise English is not your first language.. so thank-you and well done. It was informative if not a little biased, maybe the bike is better suited to a slightly larger person who is more able to cope with the weight... like me, can't wait to get one 😄

@jonwoodworker

9 ай бұрын

lol, yes he did. I think he regrets buying the Transalp.

@marklescault9429

9 ай бұрын

It seems to me, after everything I've seen here on KZread as well as my own experience with this bike now that I've been to the dealer, that if you want more off road go vstrom, more on road go transalp. The fully adjustable suspension of the vstrom puts it far above the transalp. Paired with the standard equipment quick shifter I'd say the extra weight is negligible given how much more you get with vstrom.

@marktaylor4277

9 ай бұрын

@@marklescault9429 The problem with the TransAlp is that Honda couldn't make it too good - if not people wouldn't buy the Africa Twin. Many are put off by the Vstroms tubed tyres, lack of CC (for touring) and off course the weight. Last week I test rode the Tuareg 660, fell in love with it straight away, has everything I want except the QS which is an extra £150 it is... but does it have Japanese reliability?

Just get 10% stronger and the weight of the DE will be comparable to the transalp!

The DL650 VStrom for me remains THE best middleweight adv bike ever made. Ideal torque curve and power to weight for all round touring snd occasional off road work. The tendency in the sales race for adv bikes to get bigger and heavier is nuts. It’s just not needed or desirable in an adv bike. Suzuki have always provided very good suspension and fuelling too and the new 800 is good in this respect . Lets wait and see if it proves as reliable as the outgoing 650. I’d have one over the Honda Transalp every day of the week. Far better vfm, better fuelling and better comfort and better balanced. You seem to spend much of the review trying to justify the Honda over the VStrom because its a Honda. I would normally agree with you but not on this occasion. If Honda had everything the Vstrom has it would be just as heavy and carry it higher up. Vstrom wins every time due to how it carries that mass. Buffeting is a non issue. Fit a flip up screen or taker screen, job done.

wow what a wonderful review !!! well done. looks an amazing motorcycle

@IdealBike

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment

Thank you for doing the work. I really appreciate you mentioning fuel consumption. This is a critical aspect for us (rural Australia), and it's something that few others seem to mention ... 👏👏

@IdealBike

7 ай бұрын

I can understand why the bike's features are very important in Australia, due to the terrain particularly. The v-strom has an amazingly fuel consumption in combination with 21 litres tank, the range it's huge. However it depends on the riding surface and riding style. Most middleweight adventure bikes are somehow around 4 litres at 100 Km, you can vary it with +-10%

I own the suzuki and i basically agree with everything you say. I dont think my transalp would be much lighter after all the modification i would have made. Anyway the Suzuki made a more off-road oriented "traveler", the honda can be lighter being more road oriented. That sadly makes her more difficult to manoeuvre in slow situation, by hand or with motor. I come from a Honda crf250l, you can imagine how light my other bike feels now 😅. I kept them both, i use the Suzy on highway and to travel but i can also do some light off-road when i work. I feel the vibrations in the handlebars but they are less pronounced after some kilometres. The first service tights the chain SO much and (from what I saw) maybe a little bit too much. I saw you had a riser. I really need to install one. I really love my Banana, she's a joy to use. Great video, very balanced.

Geat review and shots, thank you. Can i ask drone model?

@IdealBike

9 ай бұрын

Mini 3 Pro, thanks for the comment

Very honest and good review.

@IdealBike

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, appreciate it 🙏

Hi, great review. What are you using to mount your cell phone?

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

Quad Lock, thank you for the comment

17/19 wheels photos leaked today.i think this will be my choise.i like it

@chadkline4268

8 ай бұрын

800re

As a sport tourer, the Transalp is a little better. As an ADV bike the 800DE is far superior. I waited 2 yrs for the Transalp in the USA and it doesn't fit what I wanted. I went with the 800DE.

@IdealBike

7 ай бұрын

Just let us know how you feel about the DE's weight, especially off-roads , etc

@jonwoodworker

7 ай бұрын

@@IdealBike Initially when you sit on it and do the left to right crotch jiggle or lean it a little it is heftier than the Transalp but not as bad as the T7. Pushing it around is more difficult like the T7. Picking it up is easier then the T7. I have not picked up a Transalp but as many side by side reviewers have shown, picking up the Transalp vs 800DE is very similar. Once your moving the additional weight isn't as noticeable. For my type of Adventure riding the benefits of the 800DE are very noticeable and I would argue the suspension on the 800DE is better than the T7.

@pigmeal2224

7 ай бұрын

We've researched intensively for 4 months and ridden them both, and will be collecting our new DE on Monday. You will cheer for yourself when you see what's involved to get at the Transalp's air filter!!! 👏👏🥂🥂

Best would have been to jump back on the honda immediately. Both good bikes I'm sure.... I have money down on the 800de. Hope to pick it up by the weekend! How did the radiator make out on that drop? Im wondering if the bars being so wide take most of the impacts

@IdealBike

Ай бұрын

Was a light drop done not by me, it was from the dealer, no major damage except plastics which by the way they are very cheap compared with the Transalp 750

@john0270

Ай бұрын

@@IdealBike yeah that price difference is insane!!!!

Care dintre ele se pretează mai bine la mers cu pasager și bagaje în opinia ta ?

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

Ambele sunt adaptabile pentru toate condițiile, însă dacă mergi cu pasager și bagaje ia în considerare suprafața pe care vei merge. Suspensiile V-strom sunt clar mult mai versatile și pot duce peste Transalp, doar că greutatea ei la manevre simple de pe loc, sau pe Off-Road la viteze mici pot crea probleme. Strict pentru asfalt cu pasager și bagaje aș opta pentru V-strom.

Why is it everyone complains about the weight when it comes to the vstrom 800de but no one complains about the weight of the ktm 890 the bmw 1250 or the klr650? Just curious.. we all know the klr650 is very heavy..

@IdealBike

6 ай бұрын

I've personally tested the new Africa Twin, KTM 890, my own Transalp 750, old GS 850, Tenere 700 and from all those bikes the V-strom 800 DE it feels quite heavy honestly, especially when you turn it and move it off-roads or very slowly.

@chriskneifl3290

5 ай бұрын

I seriously think there's a bias out there against V-Stroms. I similarly hear many people whining about the lack of tubeless wheels on the V-Strom, but the Transalp seems to get a free pass there.

@gabrielkopp2036

5 ай бұрын

@@chriskneifl3290 and the t7 as well I prefer tubes anyway..

@gabrielkopp2036

5 ай бұрын

@@IdealBike I owned a t7 and have no idea what your referring to..that bike falls over in slow off road like there is no tomorrow..I sold that t7 and bought the 800de to me it feels 30bls lighter than the t7

@barendfourie6687

5 ай бұрын

When you look at these bikes weight is a biased point to discredit the bikes you don't like. My big point on all these bikes are how easy maintenance is and the transalp fails on my opinion. You ride the desert and you have to service your airfilter you need a shop for the transalp.

Hello, thank you for an interesting video. In a few weeks, I will be buying a new motorcycle. I am considering choosing between the Transalp and the V-Strom. Do you still think that, because of its weight, the Transalp was a better choice for you?

@IdealBike

18 күн бұрын

You HAVE to test both. Transalp 750 was perfect for me, especially now with such amazing accessories packed. But only you know what's best for you no matter what anyone will say...

@danyroy7025

18 күн бұрын

@@IdealBike I have ridden both motorcycles. In every aspect, I rate the V-Strom higher. However, I also don't like the weight of the Suzuki. The Transalp is a much more user-friendly and maneuverable motorcycle. Unfortunately, the engine in the Transalp is a bit dull. Maybe there will be some accessories available to change the torque of the Honda.

@IdealBike

18 күн бұрын

@danyroy7025 The torque is more than you'll ever need really, so much power to use on every road situation possible. To be honest I mostly ride the bike with the power level of 1 out of 4, to the minimum.

@danyroy7025

18 күн бұрын

@@IdealBike Of course, you're right. There is enough power in the Honda. It's just about the way it delivers it, which doesn't cause an adrenaline rush, unlike the Suzuki. However, to be clear, I'm leaning towards the Honda because, like you, I don't like heavy motorcycles.

the best thing you have to do to avoid buffeting with this bike,is to drive it without a screen.naked.

@F3udF1st

9 ай бұрын

I honestly think this is the best route right now.

@cranedaddy678

8 ай бұрын

Yeah he has the touring windscreen somehow. There is 0 buffeting with the stock small screen surprisingly.

@pigmeal2224

7 ай бұрын

​@@cranedaddy678interesting ... the demo we took riding had the touring screen ... and the buffeting nearly killed me!! Just proves humans are all different I guess!!

@chriskneifl3290

6 ай бұрын

@@cranedaddy678 That's definitely not true. There is a ton of buffeting with the stock windscreen. It's almost hard to stay on the bike at high speeds because of it.

@cranedaddy678

6 ай бұрын

@@chriskneifl3290 Maybe work on your grip. I have video proof of 113mph with my stock screen no problems.

Been looking hard at this bike lately, but after driving a hundred miles to sit on it, dropped the idea. Too tall for me. 😒

208 dry vs 230 wet.(230-20petrol=210 kg includind accesories).you peaple dont see correct??Trick by de specs.😱😱And a Vstrom is much more of the bike vs honda's low budget oldish lock.

👏👏👏👏👏

Hi. It turns out that the Suzuki 800DE does not fall almost in its capabilities from the Transalp. What gives the Transalp more points, in my opinion, is its lower weight and the economical, smaller engine that develops more horsepower. The issue of the shock absorbers can be solved by adjustment. The bottom line is that the Transalp gives more. And we all know there is no such thing as a perfect motorcycle. Thanks for another video you worked on for our benefit.

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

Hello, thanks for the comment, Suzuki has some real capabilites and I like it, still its weight is not for me.

@emsenjansgasten

9 ай бұрын

for me the problem is,i see the transalp on the road, ,and it is like a older boring bike from honda,coming closer then you see that it is the new transalp..to bad honda use this old design front headlight...

@yoni207

9 ай бұрын

@@emsenjansgasten Honda said in advance ;that they wanted to revive the old Transalp and this is the result. All in all, a tool that meets expectations and the price level.

@jonwoodworker

9 ай бұрын

How do you adjust the Transalp suspension when its mostly nonadjustable? the 800DE is fully adjustable. And ADV bikes should be higher in torque than HP. The 800DE is a better ADV bike, the Transalp is faster on top....ok...faster...that's it.

@richard3803

5 ай бұрын

Just spent several days on a Honda transalp in northern Thailand. Fun bike when above 5000rpm but very little performance below that. For me good low down torque is far more preferable when riding off road or touring. Much preferred the 800DE.

why 90% of moto youtubers that reviewing bikes,dont rev the goddam bike?why?

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

Have you seen video? There are revs to the maximum if I can remember

@thodoris3790

10 ай бұрын

@@IdealBike your answerkzread.info/dash/bejne/l4mardmxgNnbhZM.htmlsi=p5Y0xRaNtAUQdQF-

Vibrations in hands u feel on Honda not VStrom. VStrom generates vibration in feet (especially right one). "In bike" posion is on Transalp not VStrom. Do u recognize these bikes? 😂

@IdealBike

8 ай бұрын

The handlbar vibrations are much more present in V-Strom than Transalp, that was my impression after few hours. I tested the V-Strom for about 3 hours, I can imagine after more than 6-7 hours of riding...you can make some muscles on the arms :)

230kg vs 208kg, 83hp vs 92hp=Game Over

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

Indeed man, numbers are clear.

@amicovespista

10 ай бұрын

Suzuki vs Honda = Game Over

@IRQ1Conflict

10 ай бұрын

Suzuki wins.

@IdealBike

10 ай бұрын

@IRQ1Conflict The rider is the winner anyway no matter what 🥇

@amicovespista

10 ай бұрын

@@IRQ1Conflict Honda wins ✌️