Very informative and much appreciated

@grabagearcolorado

11 күн бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate that. Check out the other videos if you want. Also a brand new one is about to drop. Huge road trip with mpg and experience. Take care

Thank you for the real-world test. I tend to be heavy footed and like tests like this.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Very informative and much appreciated 🫡

@grabagearcolorado

11 ай бұрын

Thank you. Really appreciate your comment

I just completed a 3,200 mile road trip in a 2023 Rav4 Prime SE, from Baltimore, MD to Sacramento, CA. I drove 90% of the route at my normal freeway cruising speed of 55 mph, with the rest at 65 mph. The lowest fuel economy on a single fillup was 41.5 mpg, on a day with a lot of headwind crossing the Texas Panhandle, the highest was 52 mpg on a day with a 10 mph tailwind for a couple of hundred miles, and the overall average was 46 mpg. I didn't want to drive faster than 60 since the car is still new and in it's break-in period. At the end of the 3,200 miles, the oil level in engine is still at the full mark on the dipstick, and the color is only slightly darker than when I started, so the engine's rings and valve guide seals seem to be working as well as you might hope for. I'll do the first oil change when the vehicle has consumed 112 gallons of gas, which will be approximately 5,000 miles on the ICE. And yes, the Rav4 Prime has a 14.4 gallon gas tank. The "E" mark on the gas gauge isn't "empty" - most Rav4 Prime owners report about 1.5~2 gallons of usable gas left as a reserve.

@grabagearcolorado

11 ай бұрын

That’s awesome. Check out out 5800 mile trip mpg. We did 80+ the entire time and it was CRAZY good mpg.

Very interesting! I'm buying a '21 Prime with 22 K miles on it in Texas this Friday, and will immediately drive it back to Idaho, well over 1,000 miles, giving me plenty of time to figure out the display and how to use the controls, I think. Currently a '13 plug in Prius driver.

@grabagearcolorado

9 ай бұрын

You made an awesome choice. What I have found is run it in hybrid mode and use the easy mode. When going over mountains gives you the absolute best mpg. And if it’s really nice and flat, use the charge mode. It is really a great car and you made an great choice.

@portnuefflyer

8 ай бұрын

@@grabagearcolorado I'm already referring to my Prius as "the gas hog," as it's 11 mile EV range suffers in comparison to the RAV4's by enough to have to use the engine more, at least for all my local driving!

Great video

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@doloreschansey9556

10 ай бұрын

Hybrid with an extra traction battery rated at 40 miles.

Great car. Thanks

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

I drove from LA to Reno on 395. I think the highest point is over 8000 feet. Got 40mpg on the way there and 45 mpg on the way back because on the way to Reno road is up and the way back overall the road is down. The speed ranges from 70mph to as low as 25mph passing small cities. Only drove in HV mode. Left with the full tank. 460 miles took 11.5 gallons nonstop. Came back with a little detour 495 miles used up 11 gallons. Great car for long distance trips.

@grabagearcolorado

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you. We just got back from a road trip from Grand Junction co to Las Vegas. Entire trip averaging 46 mpg at 80-85mph. Great car

I never top off. I've heard it just goes back to the gas stations tanks through the hole in the pump. That would improve the MPG. The weight definitely played a factor, but that is a very good MPG for an SUV.

@grabagearcolorado

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Check out our latest mpg test. Now that the vehicle is sorta broken in and used a bit. Mpg got even better.

@pucpuc937

8 ай бұрын

You nailed it!!! Wrong reason though, what happens is when you top off the tank its easy to contaminate the fuel venting system with raw fuel and eventually it will become very difficult to fill your tank without the pump kicking off. GR8 CATCH THOUGH!!!

Mileage should improve during the first 5,000 to 10,000 miles. You did not mention if you ran on the battery for a while. Were you always in Hybrid Vehicle mode?

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

The car was in hybrid mode the entire time. It would bounce from hybrid to ev.

Smart nice RAV4

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Yes I noticed in this video charge mode wasn't taken advantage of on this long trip. Once you use all EV, hold down hv/ev button for 3+ seconds and the car will self charge up to 80%.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

We used it when we hyper mile our Prius prime. We will do that when we hyper mile the RAV4 prime soon.

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

Charge hold is a complete waste of a feature. There are severe losses when using a gas engine to charge a battery. You are much better off just using the fuel to power the vehicle.

@sgvmantis

Жыл бұрын

It's only effective when used at speed. A couple other companies had a problem with efficiency and their charge mode software and There are some videos of people just sitting and idling to charge and this is not efficient at all. But toyota did pioneer this system and when used correctly it can be very very useful on long road trips.

@naughtysauce4323

9 ай бұрын

​@@pbear216Depends on the application. I use it all the time when on the freeway as the engine is on the entire time

@pbear216

9 ай бұрын

@naughtysauce4323 it doesn't matter where you use it silly, the simple fact remains that it is way less efficient to charge a battery for power using a gas engine than it is to simply use the gas engine. If this concept actually was more efficient, you would see all hybrids with a gas engine that only charged the battery.

We have a 2022 RAV 4 Prime model LE. Driving on rural highways with speeds 25-60 MPH my MPG just on gas with a depleted battery has been over 40 MPG in winter and in summer sometimes over 50 MPG with moderate speeds.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome. They are great vehicles

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as a Prime LE. The LE is either a gas only or Hybrid. The Prime only comes in two trims, SE and XSE

@sgvmantis

Жыл бұрын

2016-2022 had LE, XLE and premium 2023 has SE, XSE and XSE Premium

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

@@sgvmantis wrong!

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

@@sgvmantis the Rav4 Prime has only come in two trims levels since it came out in 2020 as the 2021 model. SE and XSE

My data of the first 5k in my 2023 RAV4 Prime: 70km effective EV range, in EV mode 4.5 km/Kwh, in AV mode 45 mpg. Temperature 10 degrees Celcius, speed up to 110 km/h, 2 passengers, no payload, Michelin Crossclimate 2 tyres

@grabagearcolorado

4 ай бұрын

Not to bad. It will just get better also. Thanks for watching.

BUt you also did not add in the battery charge, that costs as well. This summer went to vergas and back and went past grand junction to vegas and back through in my 2015 ptiud doing 80 mph at least and averaged 44 mpg. so was hopping a new rave 4 prime might be able to replace it. But cant see spending the money any time soon. only have 200k miles on it so probably keep a few more years at least. Thanks for the good mileage report most youtubers like in Florida or somewhere completely flat and maybe drive for an afternoon.

@grabagearcolorado

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching. Check out the one where we drive to denver and back. Best mpg I’ve seen yet. Car is not brand new and omg it was awesome.

The missing gas is basically a buffer, because people run cars so low it allows a 2.7 gallon reserve of sorts so you cannot run the car out of fuel without you noticing it.

@grabagearcolorado

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment

Are you starting with a full charge,using all the EV then using charge mode to charge up 80%? Then switching back to EV and using the 80% it charged and repeating this pattern?

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

No we did not do that. This test was basic mpg test. We will be doing more testing in the future.

@johnmartin7158

Жыл бұрын

@@grabagearcolorado The way you are doing the testing I feel is realistic and you haven’t massaged the results to achieve the fantastical.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmartin7158 thanks. We have another video coming out soon. It is hyper mile testing which was very surprising. And we have a long trip mpg video coming out. 6500 miles.

It’d be cool if you filmed in HD (1080p) or 4K (2160p). This is only in 480p, not even HD. Just an fyi for better quality videos.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting us know. We have adjusted our camera for the latest videos.

My wife and I are considering this car. How long did you have to wait to get it after ordering? On that note when did the order and then delivery happen? I'm curious to know how long the wait is these days.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

We got it because another person canceled the order right before delivery. Lucked out

@happycamper6352

Жыл бұрын

@@grabagearcolorado Hey, see if you can convince someone else to do that and then let me know and I'll pick it up lol.

@laura-ann.0726

11 ай бұрын

I've been trying to find one for 2-1/2 years, but my search criteria were very specific: it had to have a plain steel roof, which limited me to an SE, as the XSE has the moonroof as standard. I don't like glass roofs on cars, as they always seem to start leaking rainwater after 4 or 5 years, and the Rav4 with the moonroof has 3" less headroom. I finally got one last week, but it was clear on the other side of the country, and I had to drive it home, 3,200 miles, myself. I had tried several times to "order" a Rav4 Prime SE at my local dealer, but once the chip shortage cut the supply of all of Toyota's Hybrids to a trickle, my original factory order was cancelled, and I was never able to submit another one. I had to start watching the dealer inventory reports. The first 5 cars I spotted were all sold before I could even get a phone call through to the dealership, then there were a couple that were black or grey, colors that I didn't even want to consider, and finally this dark blue one came available and I was able to snag it before anyone else. They are still in incredibly short supply, and finding one without a moonroof is like winning the powerball lottery. But if you can eventually find one, they are really nice, and I got 46 mpg average on my trip home (driving 55 mph).

@happycamper6352

11 ай бұрын

@@laura-ann.0726 3200 miles at 55? Cue in Sammy Hagar's song "I Can't Drive 55". That's good mileage though. Did this all happen recently (meaning July 2023)? On the topic of moon roofs, I agree that they're not necessary I'm not really needing one, but I had a 1998 camry with one and it didn't leave the family until 2020 and it still wasn't leaking. That said, we did have to repair the mechanics of it once in 2010 and luckily it wasn't very expensive.

@laura-ann.0726

11 ай бұрын

@@happycamper6352- Yes, this road trip was just last week, July 18th to 25th. I wanted to keep the speed down because the vehicle was brand new and still in the break-in period. Once it gets to 5,000 miles and I do the first oil change, I'll feel okay about driving it faster. The main problem for me with the moon roof is that it steals about 2-1/2" of headroom, and when I tried out a 2020 Rav4 Prime SE with a moon roof, my head was actually brushing the roof, with the seat lowered as far as it would go. So the moon roof was just not going to be an option I could live with. In this one I got without the moon roof, I have a full 3" of headroom.

2022 Rav4 Prime Had the SE and XSE

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

This one is the SE

mpg aside, the prime for extra hp is the choice.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

I agree

Great choice getting ethonol free! Too bad they didnt have 93 grade

@grabagearcolorado

9 ай бұрын

Thanks. We always use ethanol free since our cars are almost exclusively EV

I am a little confused I am hoping you can help me. Can this car function fully on just gas and never be charged. Is that possible?

@grabagearcolorado

11 ай бұрын

Yes it can. If that’s what your looking for though I would just go with a normal RAV4. It is way cheaper. But yes, even the Prime can be a normal Petrol car.

@ahbenjamin2889

11 ай бұрын

@@grabagearcolorado Thats the answer I was looking for. Thank you so much.

@laura-ann.0726

11 ай бұрын

Yes, it can run like a normal hybrid, just on gas, but you pay like $10,000 extra for the Plug-in capability. If you don't have any way to charge an EV or PHEV at home, you would be far better off with the Rav4 Hybrid, non-plug-in version.

@nocturnal101ravenous6

9 ай бұрын

@@laura-ann.0726 They give you a 120 plug in, takes 12 hours to charge(where I live calculated its $2.40 cents to charge to full), and you can schedule the charge periods with the car software so your not keeping the battery in an unstable state. Also alot of Walmarts and such have 240 chargers now, (2 hours to full), (they charge a slight premium $2.90 to charge). For max milage I suggest charging the vehicle once a week and running it hybrid the rest.. Winter cold months only run it in Hybrid mode keep it around a 50% charge if you can.

Rav4 prime hybrid or non hybrid?

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

The RAV4 prime only come in a 2.5L with electric motors. Difference is that the Prime is also an actual EV unlike the hybrid or non hybrid. So to answer your question the RAV4 prime is a hybrid but different from the regular hybrid.

Get an ev

@grabagearcolorado

5 ай бұрын

Had one. Got rid of it

@matsoupanos2411

5 ай бұрын

@@grabagearcolorado I got rid of the prime.just get hybrid

@grabagearcolorado

5 ай бұрын

@@matsoupanos2411 see for me the prime is perfect. Living in western Colorado we have to drive a couple hundred miles to Denver. The Mach E we had couldn’t make it on a single charge and we don’t have tons of stations out here. So we got rid of it. But we planned for EVs when we built our house, we have solar that’s completely paid off. So the best part for us is that for most of the year we drive for free. And if we go out of town we use gas. On our RAV4 prime we have 14k miles on it and only 5k miles on gas. The rest has been literally free with solar. Hopefully that makes sense. I think for the price, most ppl should get a hybrid.

@matsoupanos2411

5 ай бұрын

@@grabagearcolorado the gas engine Kicks in many times even if you run ev mode.so you do consume fuel

@grabagearcolorado

5 ай бұрын

@@matsoupanos2411 yes. But I spend $30 on fuel in 3 months or more. And charge from solar. The Mach e we had wasn’t practical where we live. Charging on road trips cost the same as fueling up. And took longer. Nothing against ev but not practical for our situation where Denver is 240 miles away and charging 2x going to Denver. Cost more

Just an FYI, all Rav4 Primes and Rav4 Hybrids have faulty fuel gages. When range gets to 0, you still have 4.5 gallons of fuel left. Toyota recalled the Hybrids but haven't even talked about fixing the Prime.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

I’ll have to google that

@jxmar_

Жыл бұрын

They fixed it before the prime came out. That affects 2019-2020 models.

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

@@jxmar_ it affects my 2021 Rav4 Prime too, so it hasn't been fixed.

@jxmar_

Жыл бұрын

@@pbear216 haven’t heard complaints from owners w a 2021 and newer soo you must have gotten a lemon…

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

@@jxmar_ do you even own one? Every single person I know with a Rav4 Prime or Hybrid has the same issue and it is the identical issue I had with my 2020 Rav4 Hybrid.

It blows my mind that you got such poor fuel economy. I literally drive with my foot to the floor, hitting speeds of 118 mph on a regular basis and I average 48.2 mpg over 60k miles.

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the only thing I can think is going over the mountains.

@happycamper6352

Жыл бұрын

sounds like a motorcycle

@Im2bz2p345

Жыл бұрын

@Dual Sport Numbskullz - it sounds like you're calculating the 48.2 mpg as a combination of EV + gas which I don't think the video creator is doing. He's calculating purely based on gas. Your number is way beyond even what the EPA rating is for this vehicle: 38 mpg combined city/highway (check fuel economy d0t gov for proof).

@grabagearcolorado

Жыл бұрын

@@Im2bz2p345 yeah if I go 25 miles I average 999.99 lol. I’m taking the RAV4 on a 6500 mile road trip this summer, it will be recorded and available to watch later this year. Gonna be an interesting result

@pbear216

Жыл бұрын

@@Im2bz2p345 first of all, you can't drive a Rav4 Prime on gas only. It is a hybrid all the time. Second, you obviously didn't watch the video.....