2023 LiveWire Del Mar S2 First Ride and Review!
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Are Electric motorcycles the future? Harley Davidson thought so, but then fractured off LiveWire to its own bike maker...sort of. Enter Livewire robot on the One - the Del Mar S2. Totally different style cues, riding position, gauge, and more. Instead of looking like a rejected sportster S or Nighttrain, the Live Wire Del Mar is a totally new animal.
My impressions of this start a little lower as I drove the One first. This is a totally different bike. An electric motorcycle??? Maybe.
Let me know your thoughts...
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Every video I see of this thing, the riders are having a blast. This design gives off a Harley XR750 flat-tracker vibe, too. Dig it . . .
Looks good, bars scratched already. The switch gear looks rain sensitive ?
As an urban commuter in Paris France, this bike's range suits me fine. I currently own a Zero FXE, which is 100 pounds lighter and has 106nm of torque. It has amazing handling and is perfect for filtering though heavy traffic. My only concerns about the Del Mar would be low speed handling and the turning circle. All the same, I'm very tempted by this bike and will test it when French dealerships get their act together. Not clear when it will actually be available and the customer service here is dreadful! Ride safe and thanks for the content.
@majordelays4909
8 ай бұрын
£16k tho, how long would it last before it’s gone?
I think it is the best looking e motorbike out there and the price is not that bad for what you get. My top spec Specialized emtb is $15300 and has to be pedaled lol. Gets almost the same range though and only weighs 53 lbs. Can't wait for the new battery tech to allow these things to get 200 miles or more.
As an "urban commuter" bike, will a luggage rack be offered? Ben Marshall blogs about his LiveWire and he made a rack out of Adventure parts. This bike needs a rack.
@AdventuresonZero
10 ай бұрын
I would be surprised if there weren’t accessories for the Del Mar - LiveWire has an accessories department now.
Oh wow, what a beauty! I'm 5'1'' and figure there is no bike small enough for me. Would love to ride this one though. Looks like a blast! :D
@BackDraftBikes
11 ай бұрын
Go for it!
@fralou_sind_kreativ
11 ай бұрын
@@BackDraftBikes I will one day, when I can afford a driver's license and a bike :) Thanks for answering to my comment
@upsidedownjesus
11 ай бұрын
Look up the BMW ce 02. It's an electric mini bike!
@fralou_sind_kreativ
11 ай бұрын
@@upsidedownjesus Thank you so much for the suggestion!
@KevinGrumpyCuzz3243
11 ай бұрын
@@upsidedownjesus😆😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅😆
Would you say this bike would fit someone 5'6 im looking potentially getting this bike in the future
@BackDraftBikes
2 ай бұрын
You would be perfect for this size
Fact Check: Torque is “703 ft-lbs or 950 Nm”… NOPE 👎. Maybe they forgot to change that when they copied and pasted from the Tesla spec sheet that they used as a template. The actual torque spec of 194 ft-lbs is plentiful though.
@BackDraftBikes
11 ай бұрын
I know *sigh* wish I wasn't led on at the demo.
@DaBinChe
11 ай бұрын
They probably talking about wheel torque. My 2020 ZeroSR is 114 ft-lbs at motor but at wheel it is 515 ft-lbs.
@TraveladvRajanSRai
11 ай бұрын
Similar to a KTM or twin cyl bike
I know it’s not ideal but can this model be stored outside with a good cover ?
@BackDraftBikes
9 ай бұрын
I would not
@burn1gotbeats
9 ай бұрын
@@BackDraftBikes thanks for the reply because of the battery i would assume it’s better to be kept indoors i agree with you.
Why no quick charging like the Energica ?
@BackDraftBikes
Жыл бұрын
It is a bad design choice in my opinion. Really limits what you can do with the bike.
@AdventuresonZero
10 ай бұрын
A few years ago Level 2 was still predominant, and at least here in the states, there are more level 2 than 3 (although that won’t be the case much longer). Likely an early design decision and trade off to keep weight down
@DJPTEXAS
10 ай бұрын
@@AdventuresonZero Thanks !
184 ft lbs. 700 you’d be dead.
@BackDraftBikes
Жыл бұрын
From the motor. You are referring to wheel torque. It is misleading, but it is what the factory told me at the demo.
184ft/pound torque?
@BackDraftBikes
Жыл бұрын
The advertised out of the box is 184. The spec sheet at the dealer demo I attended said 703. Hmmm. I was told that the 'max torque delivery' is measured differently as it's an electric bike. (sips kool-aid) IDK. So confused.
@mikehiggins5682
Жыл бұрын
Strange music, still cool ✊🏻
So this is a Zero S with stock level 2 charging, slightly better specs but it weighs and extra 100lbs and costs $3500 more and has none of the storage; got it. I'm glad it exists, but I don't want it.
@shanekraus9905
11 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@DaBinChe
11 ай бұрын
It is more in competition with the older ZeroSR possibly even the newer ZeroSR
You could go to work and back home every day it's good weather.
@BackDraftBikes
4 ай бұрын
Very true!
Can this bike ride two?
@BackDraftBikes
11 ай бұрын
Set up for it yes
Can anyone tell me why they don’t put transmission in ev that would help with the range issue and that why I drive bikes? Is there a issue with put a transmission in?
@BackDraftBikes
11 ай бұрын
You can’t, it’s due to the way a DC motor works and a transmission would need a more linear motor
@timscott3027
8 ай бұрын
You could put a transmission in it but it adds weight and parts and cost, these things are already too expensive and heavy. I think there will be more 2 or 3 speeds eventually though as it will improve efficiency at speed and improve acceleration. The Porsche taycan has a 2 speed automatic transmission.
Can a 5'6" rider flat-foot it?
@BackDraftBikes
Жыл бұрын
Possibly…it would be close
194 ftlbs of torque
They have typ2 connector need 70 minutes to charging.
@BackDraftBikes
Жыл бұрын
They have a J1772 connector, not a fast charger like the Livewire One. I was repeating what the engineer told me at the demo. I understand that at a Level 2 charger you can go from 20-80% in 70 minutes. But to fully charge they battery from 0-100 it takes a full 8 hours.
@chargestate42
11 ай бұрын
Level Two Charging Uses Public Chargers with Level 2 Charging. Boasts a charge rate of 20-80% in 78 minutes and 0-100% in 142 minutes. MINUTES 142 100% CHARGE Level One Charging Uses the included charge cord. Plugs into any standard 110v wall outlet. Charging time is 20-80% in 6 hours and 0-100% charge in 8.4 hours. HOURS 8.4
@chargestate42
11 ай бұрын
Just like a Tesla, you don't fully charge it each time you stop.
Ridaculous ??😂
can A 5'4 rider reach the ground?
@BackDraftBikes
10 ай бұрын
I think so
Seems dangerous a silent bike No can hear it coming lol In todays world with texting drivers Not good. You need to be able to ride in a high gear to alert people when passing
LiveWire has NO IDEA of when you would ever get one, if ordered today- I just spoke to them. They are way behind on production to a fraction of what they first said.
@BackDraftBikes
11 ай бұрын
I think they just rolled the first one out...
@AdventuresonZero
10 ай бұрын
They’re shipping in a few weeks. I was just contacted to set up my delivery
When you hear the rumble, you know it is a Harley; when you see its stance, you know it's a Harley. Ergo, in 100 years it will be the Harley old-school connecting me to my great-great-grandchildren; emissions made inert, parts protected to weather the passage of time, and with a turn of a key, Harley rumbles again in the future tense. As for the LiveWire: (Harley-Tactical) I see its potential as fit for purpose: Amended with H2 continuous torque and speed, augmenting battery pack: Conscientious as an Environmentalist, silent and stealthy as a Seal, quick and agile as a Marine and the covert tactical fortitude of the Green Beret: developed is well suited to offensive, defensive and emergency interventions, and when needed, the hyper-acceleration of Mr. Scotty's Star Trek's warp speed, at the flick of a switch. Now for the future tense: (Harley Thunder) the Harley Hydrogen fuel-injected Dual-V12 Hover Thunder: Vertical take-off thrusters, boisterous rumbling thunderous calling card its DNA of original genesis, atmospheric aero-dynamic generating atmosphere, self-contained life-support energy on call, purified oxygen and water; able to meet and defeat the extreme conditions of the ongoing climate crisis. Now this is Harley beyond contestation remains rumbling thunderous in the genesis, the now & future tense. Na Mickey
@toddzehr203
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately most Harley-Davidson fans disagree with your enthusiasm. Me included.
I own two Kawasaki Vulcans one Suzuki Blvd one BMW r1150rtP and a Harley super glide. I'll carry all 5 on my back and walk barefoot from Librafornia to New York City before I'll buy an electric "Motorcycle.". If the tree hugging hippies are ever able to outlaw petroleum vehicles, it'll be hard to take the Hell's Angles serious when they come whispering up on their electric bikes😆😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😅😆. No disrespect to the red and white.
Still way overpriced man !! The normal price I would buy and many ppl will buy is for $ 10,999 max
20 grand with tax for some stupid little electric motorcycle lol That's how much a simple pickup truck should cost now a days These old money big corporation owner families are raping us LOL
$16000 for 70 miles of range? Who seriously thinks this is acceptable. Next.
@MrBurtonf
9 ай бұрын
Perfect for daily riding here in New York City
@MrBurtonf
9 ай бұрын
$16k is ridiculous though. Next
@ent1311
6 ай бұрын
Harley Davidson prices
This is super ugly.. reminds me of the butt stock of an AR14 rifle. The original livewire is wayyyyyyyyyyy waaaayyyyyyyyyyyy..... I mean WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY more beautiful to look at.
An electric harley is an abomination to the motorcycle gods!
@BackDraftBikes
11 ай бұрын
Sacrilege! Off with their heads!!
@tewksburydriver8624
3 ай бұрын
Who cares, it has two wheels and goes fast. Life is so much better when you dgaf what other people think.
“This bike has more of a visceral feel” statements like this are completely meaningless from one person to another.