I own an Omnia. Same thing you noticed, that gritty feel. Mine was the bottom cam coming into contact with the cable as the bow dumps into the valley. Elite addresses this on their website, stating after using the S.E.T. you need to lay an arrow shaft along side the cam and confirm cam lean is not causing the arrow shaft to pass under the string. I used my draw board, rest set at 13/16", and used the S.E.T. to remove cable contact. Then paper tuned the bow. I needed to move the rest left, as I had no room to adjust SET or the cable would contact the cam again. I could have reduced the cable load by using the LTR, but then I would have some fletching contact with the cables. In the end, rest is now 27/32" (between 13/16" and 7/8" inch), and tail right SET adjustment with perfect paper tune and straight bare shaft at 20 yards. Bow is shooting 284 fps, 415 gr Easton Axis, 29" DL and 60.5# of draw weight.

Your reviews are always spot on. I watch them all. I wish you could give me lessons on how to be as laid back as you are. I also love the way your dog always seems to find a way to make it on camera! Dogs are good people!

One of my favorite archery channels cuz of your honesty. I shoot an Elite Option 6 and love it. The Omnia is very intriguing with the speed but hoping for a rundown on the Elite carbon Era if you get that into the shop...keep on keeping on!!

For someone that doesn't shoot 70lbs bow, you keep a great form while doing it! This Omnia is really tempting me!

My Enkore had the cable rubbing on top cam. It tuned and shot great like that and I kept it like that for months. I ended up shimming the cam over .020" towards the cable that was rubbing and that solved it for me. Thanks for the review!

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

Im hoping the tuning system will fix the issue.

@timbow50

Жыл бұрын

Just saying I would be fricking pissed if I bought a new bow annd the damn cables whatever were rubbing anywhere. That’s fricking bullshit. I’ve bought and shot probably 12-14 different brand bows over the years and NEVER. had to move limbs or shims. Paper tune the whole nine yards. I don’t get so many people on FB and other places having issues

I had to move my LTR roller slide to clear up the cable clearance!

The same bow in a 35" ATA would get my attention.

Awesome. In Australia getting bows and we can’t get a Verdict ordered in fricking AUGUST! Story supposed to be not getting left handed billets. Really now. I gotta find another channel and a guy is reviewing one. But, anyway Mr.- another honest opinion and review. 👍👍

Bought one today!

Steven! I love your reviews. Little suggestion for the next one : reading glasses for all these small letters and numbers on the bow. And glasses for distance. So you see where your arrows go 😁 wouldnt that be fun? 😂

Thanks for saying....No fast bows have come out....been waiting and looking for one...been looking for old darton ds 3800 bow....Then you make this video....I actually shoot faster bows better than target bows..or I should say not worse or better....no difference...Thanks for the video....I'll be getting this.bow now!!

I just purchased an Omnia. Was a tough choice between the Omnia and the carbon era but the Omnia just felt better draw wise to me. Both were very impressive.

Steve, that dry fire was not an Elite Kure, it was my Enkore and I stuffed up. I sent you down the bow from Brisbane, and it was a 2 month wait for new cams from Elite to come in. Loved your excellent customer service, and your reviews. This Omnia looks a winner, but I won't upgrade from my Enkore.

Awesome as always, hey what’s the name of that Camo? That’s the color I want to order.

Are you going to do an Era review ? big fan of the channel. cheers from the US.

Thanks for your honest reviews! Did you reach out to Elite about the cable rubbing? I have one and with a draw length of 29.5, nothing I do stops it from rubbing.

Great review as always! I recently switched from Mathews BACK to Hoyt, V3X to RX7 Ultra, love the RX7 Ultra it’s one of the best bows I’ve ever had! Keeping the RX7, but I was thinking about getting the Omnia next year sometime but I think I’m going to wait and see what issues pop up over the next few months. I personally prefer a little bit beefier cam along with thick mods. The thin cams and the brass hardware is a concern because brass is soft. I’m not an engineer but I’m a former Diesel Technician and anytime there were brass parts involved they were a problematic weak point. Other than the thin cams and cables rubbing I think the bow looks good! Side note: don’t risk hurting your shoulder for a video! Back the limb bolts out or something. Keep the reviews coming buddy!

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

I stopped taking the vitamins. Back on them now. I was impressed. But 100% agree. We get about 2 derails a week. I have a customer with one now saying the metal was faulty. Time will tell. But overall I have had very little problems with Elite bows.

@nathanbrooks4324

Жыл бұрын

The brass “gear” is really not an issue at all for being soft and causing issues. It’s used as a micro adjust with no pressure on it. So nothing there to worry about.

Gonna guess you are able to solve that cable rubbing issue with the set technology stuff. Way the arrows were hitting it looks like it needs some tuning. Please make the "Steven tunes the Omnia" video. Great shooting and review as always.

@snipersteve378

Жыл бұрын

The set technology does not fix the cable rubbing issue

I've watched many guys shoot that bow on videos. And everybody even looks good shooting it.😄😄

I want to see you review the Elite Carbon Era, I like light bows with high brace heights

one of my favorite bow reviewers, I heard this could be arguably the best hunting bow of the year. Mate It is not the "size" of the stabilizer but how you use it!

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

I would say a lot of my staff are looking at an Omnia. One has an Envision and is now arguing with himself if it is worth changing given the Envision shoots so well.

@theamazinggoldfish8713

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Cant the Envision also come with the 70# limbs? 🏹🤠👍

Loving my Omnia! Been a life long fan of Mathews but wasn’t intrigued by their minor changes for 2023 and opted to switch it up.

@YouTubesucks..

Жыл бұрын

Should of waited 3 more days till there new Carbon bow comes out!!

@stevenwalker9013

Жыл бұрын

@@KZreadsucks.. nah! It’s slower and the there first carbon. Better to wait a few seasons on the carbon til they fix any hiccups

@YouTubesucks..

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenwalker9013 it doesn’t have any hiccups! It’s perfect!

@theguyinmaine

10 ай бұрын

A Mathews dealer told me this was the bow to look at.

My Enkore has the same issue with the cable rubbing the cam. I had to shim the cam, made it better but still slightly touches. Elite had no solution for me, just seemed unaware the issue exists.

Thank you soo mutch for this review. You look like you handled the weight very nicely, Why didnt you just bring it down to 60 fromt he start? Please keep us updated on the rubbing issue...

@capricornmagic63

Жыл бұрын

Bows aren't as efficient when you reduce the D/W by that much

@scottpomygalski6078

Жыл бұрын

@@capricornmagic63 OK, I understand. Thanks, Happy New Year!

I’d really enjoy a comparison between this bow and the Mathews Phase 4. Sure to get lots of clicks🍿

Im considering purchasing a Omnia or Athens Elevate at 65# The trouble is I am having to purchase without ability to shoot the bow myself due to my location. I do have shoulder issues and wondering how your shoulders get along with the omnia? Id prefer to be able to shoot with perf mods but I'm also going to purchase the smooth mods if I go the Omnia way. Both bows seem like a wash in performance and $. Down to and more important for me the draw cycle on my not so great shoulder issue that creeps up once in awhile. I value your opinion as a shop and like me slightly older shooter or would you prefer the Envision?

Mod position 4 will be 28.5" but that's at 80% let off. At 90% let off, the draw length is probably closer to 29".

Easy to use and install.

The PSE DECREE HD and the Evolve 35 were two of the best bows ever. Great hunting bows IMO. I was stupid to sell them. Wished I never had.

@theguyinmaine

10 ай бұрын

This bow is a lot like the PSE Evoke. The let off and draw length adjustment and the caged riser. Same damper mount bottom rear. I had an Evolve 31 now an Evoke, pretty much the same. 5 7/8" brace height not a problem. Love it and still nothing to trade for, though the Elite got my attention.

I still would prefer the Envision for my next bow.

Steven, wait until you get your hands on the Gen 2 from BOWTECH!!!! It will blow all out of the water. The ability to do things that no one has ever done! You'll see .... Nice video

Did you get the cable rub figured out?

I'm actually watching this because I'm looking to replace my pse inertia. l love the fact the inertia has zero to no hump into the back wall(Hated mathews). Since you owned the inertia how do they compare on draw cycle. Is there any elite bows comparable?

Hello Steve . Ernie here from the USA . Question , how do you eliminate cam lean on a single cam bow . I am currently shooting the Bear Species EV . If I center the roller cam on top it looks like it could derail . Any time you have if any will be appreciated .

What was the ETA on that 32 yeah and that's the first Steven drawing 70 lb he couldn't even draw that Prime in the 60 supposedly 60 anyway I think both bow Tech and Elite have the two top rated tuning systems of all time

🤦‍♂️ Steven that alleged stabilizer joke landed like a lead balloon lol 😂

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

It amuses me that one company comes out with a little stabilizer then everyone has a little stabilizer. I wonder if everyone will have an inline stabilizer.

Why the focus on dry firing, do you feel this bow will not weather well with lighter arrows?

Anyone got feedback on Omnia draw cycle vs PSE EVL?

Nice bow

50lbs is were it's at! Fun to hunt with and good for target hunting

Can you make review at Hoyt Altus 2023

Bowtech has limb pocket lock, isnt that the same than this elite lock?

Did you manage to solve that grittiness cable running problem after you talked to elite?

@snipersteve378

Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with my Omnia as do a lot of others. The set system does not fix the cable rubbing it if you paper tune correctly you need to shim your cams and switch the limbs for better cam alignment and resolving this issue more money out of my pocket!

Nice review, something I just cant understand is why do people dry fire their bow 🤦‍♂️ u know something is going to break

@maiabrittany

Жыл бұрын

I have, and maybe one day it will happen to you. I was on the range, not concentrating, drew back (thinking an arrow was nocked) and bang. Happens to many people.

#4 draw length setting is 28.5"

Steven pulling 70 pounds in a review . That is a 1st.

My brain sometimes wants to go another route, so I'm intrigued at these new elites, then I see "cable rubbing cams" and all that jazz and I realize why I shoot my FAT stubby stabilized HOYT!

Oh boy the look on your face during the draw…….outstanding work. 70 pound lol.

Well good by mattews😞, I will be testing the Omnia soon😎😎😎

Puppy dog wants to go inside!

Doesn't Matthews make the Vertix? Did you mean the Virtue?

@YouTubesucks..

Жыл бұрын

The Verdict is a Elite bow.

Did you do a speed test I didn't see it if you did

@YouTubesucks..

Жыл бұрын

Yes he did

What’s the price?

Between the Hoyt and Prime on if size matters I’ll have to ask my wife and get back to ya. I’m sure she will say she likes the bow just the way it is 😂

To me it has all the characteristics of the Hoyt RX 1

I agree, I'd hate to bump that cams on my tree stand and bend those skinny things. Hunting bows should be made heavy duty.

3 is 29" they are totally dead in hand. I shot about 20 arrows threw one.

Any lefty’s in stock

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

This was only 1 bow. I was not expecting it. No Verdicts in LH yet so I guess the Omnia in LH will be in 2023

If you ask me, I think peoples time should be paid for if you drive fire your bow and your brakes and you take it to the shop to get it fixed you should pay for it absolutely 👍

How are all these turkeys dry firing their bows! Fair dinkum!

no speed test?

@YouTubesucks..

Жыл бұрын

He did it!

@metro9636

Жыл бұрын

@@KZreadsucks.. really?i cant find it

@metro9636

Жыл бұрын

nevermind. found it

He say's he never shoots his bows before reviewing them but he has loads of vids where he say's he's shot a few arrows before doing the reviews. Plus in another video he says that the SET system is nothing special and he doesn't use it, no he say's it's amazing. No wonder some people compare him to a used car salesman.

no argument. pay people for their time. it is a business, and good manners.

Hey Steven, I may have some concerning information about that bow I went into my local archery shop and was asking about omnia and they said they won't be ordering that bow that it has a lot of problems! They said they received a prototype from elite and elite asked them what would they do to fix it and they gave them a list things and elite responded back that they were to far into production and decided to release the bow as is so my archery shop didn't order any omnia to sale , I asked my shop what was the main problem with the bow and they basically said there was to much torque in the riser so they wouldn't knowingly sell this bow to there customers !

@martythompson6509

Жыл бұрын

And yet not one of the owners of the omnia has reported an issue in the month since it's availability. I'd go find a less biased shop. What a load of BS.

@brianrobinson7972

Жыл бұрын

I hear what you are saying Marty and they aren't biased I bought the envision from them and they are the top selling shops in America and elite Sent the prototype bow out to them and asked them what would they do to fix it ! And Steven himself felt a problem with the bow and noticed that the cables were rubbing together tell me when has that ever happened in one of his reviews. So there's no reason for them to be biased it's just a problem with the bow it obviously could be tuned out but the problem is still there

@dashippo

Жыл бұрын

@@brianrobinson7972 Just to clarify. Elite sent this shop a prototype and essentially asked them how they'd make it better. The shop compiled a list and sent it to elite. Elite came back and said "there's nothing we can do now as it's too late in the production process" ( or something to that effect ) Why would a company who has paid engineers on staff (several of them) in addition to professional archers (several of which have been involved with the build process of previous bows) give a prototype bow to a shop (regardless of size or notoriety) to ask for input? THEN after going through that process reject the possible fixes saying it was "too late in the production process" You don't send a "prototype" if the final version is already in production. And what, the shop won't sell it because it's "potentially dangerous" ? All these companies have is reputation, once damaged they don't come back, and many have gone under from that exact situation...you think elite would risk that? Not to mention the potential law suite. Anyway I find the story dubious at best and if it really was relayed to you like that, someone is telling you a tale.

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

@@brianrobinson7972 I have had alot happen in my reivews - Citations the cable guard poped out. Release aids misfire.

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

I dont know about torque. No one who tired the bow noticed that. I really liked the bow. I am shooting the Verdict now and it is shooting really well. Or should I say it aims well and dead in the hand afterward and I seem to be shooting my bests. There must be a stack of shops with them on order as I paid for a bunch weeks ago. Time will tell, but I think it looks good.

I dont see how this bow is anywhere even close to 347fps. If it claims 347 on 70 pounds, that has to be on a 350 grain arrow as shooting anything lighter would be sketchy on 70 pounds. And if the speed is only 313 on 380 grains, i see no way how it can manage even 340fps at 350 grains.

@Makka316

Жыл бұрын

IBO speed is 350gr at 30" draw at 70lbs. Also Elite's IBO speeds are measured at 80% let off. He is shooting 380gr at 28.5" at 90% let off. Theoretically with no extras attached to the bow and strings he should get around 322fps so it's still short of the theoretical speed but on par with the real world speed differences that most brands are showing in his reviews. It also depends on the calibration of the chronograph which explains why multiple reviews for one bow using the same spec draw length, poundage and arrow weight end up with different results. Better to look at comparisons between bows using the same poundage, draw length and arrow weight on the same chronograph. Unfortunately in this case he's shooting at 70lbs with different arrows then he normally uses so we have no data from this test that we can use to compare to his other tests.

PUPPY

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

She is always around. Checking for people. She is a paid guard dog.

Do what he dry fired at the first time you fixed it and he didn't pay you are you kidding me most people would be so happy that you was able to save their bow for them and then he does it again and tries to come in and get his money back this is what's wrong with the human disc right here this is what we have come to and it ain't just men it's women it's everybody

Ha ha you need to do more pushups! They need a 33-34" AtoA version in 80lbs...

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

I have never shot 70#, only 60#. They make the bow in 75# but I guess due to the cams not 80#. Aron Synder is using the Verdict for hunting.

@petermorphett

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale Did this one have a very noticeable lean to the right, top and bottom on the cams, in the static position? The one i got for a customer looks f'ed up...!

Winner choice no peep rotation, that's total BS!

You dry fire a bow; in no way that’s the shops fault. User fault exclusively

Sure dont like the look of that let off. Not at all

I hate the hoyt and elites baby pecker...just bad

@ArcherySuppliesLonsdale

Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting trying the bow without the little stabilizer.

@deadair5737

Жыл бұрын

Hey don't talk about me like that