so porsche had tire warmers, and corvette didnt??

@jackholmes8105

Жыл бұрын

They both did

@savagegeese

Жыл бұрын

Both used warmers. Corvettes warmers were on a set off of tires off the car.

@kalmmonke5037

Жыл бұрын

haha i thought tire warming was a idea only in my mind

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

@savagegeese what tire psi were they set to? 35psi as shown on the door panel or 24psi as advised for track use? And why lap 7? 7 laps in is obvious the Cup 2 R's traction is well into the decline stage. They last on average of 12-15 miles of hard use before getting spent

@Fastvoice

Жыл бұрын

@@saltyfloridaman7163 One lap of the South Circuit has about 2 miles. So if you drive one warm up lap your 6th hot lap (or 7th lap overall on new tires) ends at about 12 miles of hard used tire life. So what are you exactly talking about?

honestly shows you how confident GM and Porsche are to agree to having their car go head to head against their rival.

@ytsux9259

Жыл бұрын

Private cars, bro. 🤦🙄

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

Жыл бұрын

@@ytsux9259 Did you watch the video at all? Not only were the manufacturers involved, they sent teams to make sure their cars were in top performance.

@gregmize01

Жыл бұрын

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 did you read his comment correctly at all?

@rightwingsafetysquad9872

Жыл бұрын

@@gregmize01 Yes. He's saying the cars are privately owned. They are not. They are test vehicles owned by the manufacturers. He either didn't watch the video or didn't pay attention. Apparently you didn't either.

@DoWorkNP

Жыл бұрын

Where does the original commentator say they are privately owned? Your being extra for no reason. Settle down big boi.

44 minutes of comparing two of the coolest sounding cars still made in 2023, I am in!

@ko7305

Жыл бұрын

Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.

@993mike

Жыл бұрын

Thank god we still have a few remaining high revving N/A sports cars offered for sale in an ever more neutered boosted small displace (or electric) motored world. The future may be electric, but these cars are like fine Swiss watchers compared to an iWatch - one is a coveted marvel of engineering, the other a disposable appliance

@justin________7477

Жыл бұрын

I don't get it, the Corvette sounds underwhelming for an 8,000+ rpm GM V8.

@Lhoguef1

Жыл бұрын

​@@justin________7477 just wait till you see & hear in person👍

@justin________7477

Жыл бұрын

@@Lhoguef1 I wonder why there's a large discrepancy for this car between video and in-person for only this car, but not other GM V8's and other flat plane crank V8's?

Never in my life would I have ever thought that a corvette would out run a gt3. Gm really outdone themselves.

So proud of GM. While the Ford GT is off-the-hook insane, I wish they would do something like the Corvette that is more attainable.

@joegotz1971

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately speed and handling is expensive. No way around it.

@hankwilliams5622

8 ай бұрын

Both murican junk.

@vaccuumrolls7243

5 ай бұрын

@@joegotz1971expensive is a Z06, unattainable is limited run and needing to be invited to buy one like the Ford GT. Nobody has a problem with it being expensive, but if you’re not allowed to buy one, there’s the issue.

@joegotz1971

5 ай бұрын

@@vaccuumrolls7243 eBay has ruined the car business and greed!

@briansalisbury5760

4 ай бұрын

@@vaccuumrolls7243 A Z06 relative to what you are receiving is a bargain. However a Stingray which in itself is an amazing car is affordable. The value you get in that car cannot be surpassed.

I'm not a motoring enthusiast but this channel helps me understand the passion people have for cars better than just about anything I've seen. Thank you guys.

@michaelduffek2866

Жыл бұрын

but you are a Bodie Island Lighthouse enthusiast!

@brandonchism6960

Жыл бұрын

I was going to wax poetic on the awesomeness of this video, however; I think this comment is a far better explanation of why these guys are loved by the car community. I don't own either of these cars, but I wanted a video that went this far into the details explaining the differences between the last bastions of NA, performance cars.

@farzana6676

Жыл бұрын

You have 69 comments on this channel. How are you not a car enthusiast 😅

@MLHunt

Жыл бұрын

@@farzana6676 Lol I'd have never guessed a number nearly that large! I do *like* cars, I find them fun and interesting, but I don't think I have levels of knowledge and passion for driving to qualify as a real enthusiast.

@ko7305

Жыл бұрын

Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.

How the hell did you manage to convince both chevy and porsche to come out for this?💀Great job . Been watching since the turbowski days. Good to see you evolve into a form that stays true to your origins and still do well in terms of viewership. Thankful as always. Please keep making these. As soon as I get a job, I will support them.

@JohnMatthew1

Жыл бұрын

You're kidding right? Chevy use Porsche and others as the baseline for the C8, and clearly were confident that the Z06 would tie or beat the GT3. I'm not surprised at all.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

​@John Matthew every single race track shows the Z06 demolish the 911 GT3 as well, yet somehow this guy got slower in the Z06... he's multiple seconds slower on average compared to the average driver setting hotlaps

@JohnMatthew1

Жыл бұрын

@@saltyfloridaman7163 Well, they did spend the first 3m of the results talking about the environment and how they tried to make them equal each time, not sure if that changed the results. I would have loved to see base models of each compete, I'm tired of the youtubers who continually put the fully loaded Z07 on display. I've only found one real driver with a base Z06, which is what i'll order in a few years.

@LawrenceTimme

Жыл бұрын

Real ogs remember when mark had hair

@shaunfogarty5744

Жыл бұрын

I think these are privately owned cars??

One can only IMAGINE how capable the ZR1 will be. Almost unfathomable

@emekaiheanacho274

Жыл бұрын

Only more power

@tjstrongbone5373

Жыл бұрын

@@emekaiheanacho274 like you know

@laijiang6162

Жыл бұрын

There is GT3RS up there, and incmoing 992 GT2RS at the top.

@chawletsaowse7742

Жыл бұрын

@@laijiang6162 the new gt2rs after it comes out, if you can find a one on the secondary market... i doubt itll cost any less than 2-3x the cost of a z06. if the hype is enough, they may even go for 750k+

@laijiang6162

Жыл бұрын

@@chawletsaowse7742 You know the performance is not linearly increasing with price for almost any product right?

I can’t even imagine how fast the zr1 is gonna be. The c6 zr1 is still one of my favorite cars of all time

@Brianlikescars

2 ай бұрын

I’ve driven some FAST stuff… but the C8Z seems like the sweet spot for me. The ZR1 and Zora are going to be nigh unusable on the road, and I worry about the boost noise drowning out the LT6 noise. They’re going to be absolute MONSTERS though.

I can't get over how you guys accomplish these kinds of things. I can't believe you guys take this much care and effort to bring us this kind of information. It's appreciated.

The amount of coordination with manufacturers, and the test track, the incredible cinematography and drones and multiple angles of camera shots, the time editing and learning all of the fine details about both of these cars! Its all simply amazing! This is the kind of thing I would hope for someone like Motortrend to play on saturday mornings, but its so much better! Its a testament to y'alls dedication to cars and the car community. Thank you for the work you put into these videos for us to enjoy!

@Beer_Dad1975

Жыл бұрын

Unbelievably high production value - on any platform this would be remarkable - and here it is on KZread, free for anyone to watch!

@DrDanMD

Жыл бұрын

Free!! Thank you

I look at both of these cars and I can't help but feel a sense of pride. GM looks human again after making the Z06, a world beater from Bowling Green Kentucky. The Porsche on the other hand makes me feel like they made that car for me- the driver, no compromises, just pure speed and passion. Both companies made an emotional decision to make a car that was for us. I just feel like they were both thinking of me when they designed them. The past few years have been shit for all of us. Chevy and Porsche made things better, even if I can't afford either the world is better now that they are here. I haven't seen that in any industry in a long time.

The camaraderie between the teams is the most wholesome thing ever. They have everything to be proud of with these two top-level machines. I admit I was thinking the Porsche was going to edge out the Z06... but I knew the Z06 was a true contender for once, no excuses. But when the final numbers were shown, I said, "Huh, will you look at that ". Well done, Porsche and Chevy. Well done Savage Geese. This has been a well spent 44 minutes. Awesome.

You guys win the internet for at least a month. You brought us the battle we've all wanted.

@savagegeese

Жыл бұрын

You mean the day?

@kalmmonke5037

Жыл бұрын

@@savagegeese why is porsche so much higher off the ground . volvo replaced the weak heavy rear window with camera in some ev

@Pistolita221

Жыл бұрын

@@savagegeese you got put on my suggested today, you might peak over the course of a week since your channel isn't as well known as Top Gear, but they haven't done this comparison yet.

@982spyder5

Жыл бұрын

@@savagegeese @kleinbottled79 No, he or she said "a month" and I agree. It is after all, a GT3 versus Z06 comparison. These are not insignificant icons that you're flogging! (Oh, and thanks for that!)

I love that GM and Porsche are still carrying the torch for N/A powered supercars as so many other manufactures are ditching them. Corvette could've gone with a supercharged Lt5 and called it a day, but instead they made an all new flat plane crank V8 and still pushed more power than the old Lt4.

@Saabfather

Жыл бұрын

Supercharged Gm's motors are absolutely tits but it would've made the z06 slower.

@pwally2714

10 ай бұрын

They made it for their GT3 IMSA race cars and slapped it in a passenger car 😂

@hectichive889

3 ай бұрын

Same here man! It’s great to see. This is what makes these cars special to me

I cannot believe such high quality content was delivered at no cost to KZread. Thanks Mark and Jack for these amazing videos.

Well done, I’m a P fan boy but really impressed with where Chevy has taken the Corvette. If anything, it will keep Porsche busy keeping their cars as awesome as ever. I think Chevy’s move to go mid engine was daring and it’s paid off in spades, it’s a helluva car.

@downdemon2378

Жыл бұрын

Respect.

@56seehorn

9 ай бұрын

Should push them to lower production cost and price.

@kryptoknight.

4 ай бұрын

Man up.

I absolutely love how the porsche and corvette teams came together for this video compared to other iconic manufacturers not even wanting to give a car at all. The fact that these teams were willing to put their money where their mouths are speaks volumes about the products they’ve created. Also, great job putting together this video. It was incredibly informative and entertaining at the same time. Your cinematography skills have improved tremendously over the years as well. Thank you for making this content for us all to enjoy!

@RepEvox

Жыл бұрын

They aren't rivals though. I doubt there is significant overlap of people wanting to buy one or the other.

@anvilsvs

Жыл бұрын

"not even wanting to give a car at all" That would be the "F" brand.

@byrondowler5917

Жыл бұрын

Great comment. Couldn't agree more.

@tomhatch2011

Жыл бұрын

@@RepEvox That's true, you either are a porsche man or a Vette man

Amazing job guys! I know it's hard to make money on these kinds of comparison videos, but you really hit it out of the park. The fact that you're willing to take the risk on a production like this really says something about the channel's ethos and dedication to car enthusiasts. I loved the part showing the data of the cars going around the track where you could see how differently each car handled the corners from entry to exit. The two cars, despite being vastly different setups, laid down surprisingly close best laps and it indicates to me that they're both at the absolute limits of what four wheels and a naturally aspirated engine can do on a track in 2023.

@natramirez6716

Жыл бұрын

Gg

@ko7305

Жыл бұрын

Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.

For years the corvette has been attainable to the average buyer. Porsche is and has always remained expensive. If you go to the DuPont Registry there are loads of Porsches available, many with low mileage. Just pray nothing breaks. The one thing that keeps the Corvette attainable is the after market companies. A good buy is an older Corvette Z06, almost any year, but the C6 years seem to be getting good reviews.

Loved this video, really interesting. The fact that the ZO6 is so competitive and made in the USA is great!

@jackholmes8105

Жыл бұрын

Im glad you enjoyed it

@schmeesmclaren1570

Жыл бұрын

MERICA!!! FK THE LITTLE SHIRT WEARING EU!

As a German who always laughed about the performance of US cars, allow me to pay tribute to the Corvette, who has come a long long way to compete with the top. And now is a full grown sports car that I am happy to love. Thank you, GM. You did very, very well.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

The corvette has been bullying Porsche 911s since the 1990 Corvette ZR1, which performed better than the flagship 911 Turbo

@downdemon2378

Жыл бұрын

​@@saltyfloridaman7163 yes, but now even the base model is outrunning the 911.

@elijahprasad7884

Жыл бұрын

Corvettes have always been blasting Porchses, Ferraris, McLarens, Lamborghinis, Dodge Vipers, Ford GT's for a long time. What you mean just now?

@MonicaHolly143

Жыл бұрын

​@@saltyfloridaman7163 911 turbo arent really track cars, and did u say "since" ? Zr1 cant do sht against gt2rs

@petrolo72

Жыл бұрын

Except for what you guys are forgetting, the turbo S will shit all over the best Corvette has in a quarter mile which is the only thing Corvette was known for in the past. And if they actually compare the GT3 RS which is Porsches top version of the NA motor GT3, it’ll shit on the Corvette in a road course

You guys have once again raised the bar for what can be accomplished by two dudes, with a ton of passion, and love for automobiles and content creation. I applaud you guys for all the effort that went into this I know no one truly will understand how much you put into this, but remember that most of us are extremely appreciative of it.

@savagegeese

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. If it was my choice we would have a bigger crew. But ya know, gotta settle for two handsome models like us trying to make videos.

@JaZoN_XD

Жыл бұрын

@@savagegeese Don't forget your AI secretaries

@gregrn779

Жыл бұрын

@@savagegeese please don’t put in the screeching high pitched sound at the end of the introduction. Whoever did this obviously wasn’t wearing earbuds or gives a crap about the listeners who are! My ears are still ringing! I stopped watching and unsubscribed out of caution in case the editor decided that it was a great idea and wanted to annoy everyone yet again.

@savagegeese

Жыл бұрын

@@gregrn779 I edit on calibrated equipment the high pitched ring was under mixed -10db under. Out of 300,000 views you are the only complaint. Check your settings on your earbuds or audio settings on your device.

@johnsmith1474

Жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself, you are a cringy panderer.

Felt like I snuck into a movie, had to pay for my ticket afterwards haha. Absolutely fanTASTIC work as always.

@eliqirat1864

2 ай бұрын

For real, this is some next level stuff

I am a Porsche lover, through and through. I grew up, working on a 911 with my father. It’s my dream car. But the price for what you get with that corvette….. it’s hard to say anything bad about that Z06. Hell of a lot of car for a hell of a fair price compared to the competition. Price matters lol

I loved the onboards with Britt, it's spectacular to see how far a driver can push those cars while being on the absolute limit!

@brandonclark8736

Жыл бұрын

Seeing my two bros drive is one thing, and they are far better drivers than me, but seeing Britt(ney) drive is on an entirely different level.

@stephenschenider4007

Жыл бұрын

Cool avatar.

@hotdog9262

Жыл бұрын

looked like he didn`t push the gt3 as much as he did the vette

@hamsterbrigade

Жыл бұрын

@@hotdog9262 i think he addressed that when he discussed the input differences. Swinging the wheel all of the place doesn't necessarily mean you're pushing the car more.

@standopowah

Жыл бұрын

@@hotdog9262 or maybe the porsche is more refined cuz they've been doing mid engine cars for how long again?

Two of the most impressive vehicles on sale today, and both NA! I’ll choose the GT3, just something about that flat 6 howl and engineering.

The level of in-depth video coverage you guys do is out of this world. Thank You🙏

It absolutely bothers me that Savage Geese only has 652,000 subscribers at the time of this writing where other far less deserving channels have a much larger audience. I think the content being delivered here is the highest possible quality, and these guys deserve so much more. Do your part to share their content and try to boost their subscriber-ship! This was a very special video, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. As a lover of both marques, it was very satisfying to see how they compared and how differently they went about their business to achieve nearly identical lap-times on the Autobahn Country Club track. Bravo!

@jackholmes8105

Жыл бұрын

❤

Mark, phenomenal job with the b-roll shots and the editing. Your presentation is wonderful. I know you say the editing is hard but it drives the passion by allowing you to creat, just want you to know it is definitely noticed. This is more informative and better presented than the magazine channels who likely have multiple editors to put things like this together, yet miss the detail that you provided.

@ko7305

Жыл бұрын

Warchild, refugee and legal immigrant here. kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control. I have seen what communism will do to stay in or get in power. Anything! Chinese killed 30+ million of their own for power less than a century ago. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that FBI smoked Kennedy and now we know it is true. It was a conspiracy theory that kina virus was manmade but now we know it is true. MSM/Big Tech working overtime to censor/ban. This was intentionally released to fk up US election and for the Chinese to get protesters of Hong Kong streets because if Hong Kong goes so do commies in China. Win-win for commies and US dems....millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues. Godless people will always create hell.

@crowntug

Жыл бұрын

So, so true.

Nothing like a high revving NA motor. Love both cars. It's amazing how much smoother the GT3 lap looks compared to the Z06. The Z06 lap looked quite lively.

@user-bu3yr2bd6e

Жыл бұрын

Z06 definitely takes more skill to drive fast. Gt3 makes it much easier to push the limit

@newmoon9463

Жыл бұрын

I thought the driver was going to need shoulder surgery after the laps in the Vette.

@firip255

Жыл бұрын

C8 is Midengine. Porsch is easy to Drive. C8 is more like a Ferrari tributo

@user-my4xu4gf1z

5 ай бұрын

​@@milojones5364bruh that's not even a gt3rs or gt2. Porsches are way more respected and coveted then the old man retirement fund corvette. A gt2rs would smoke u in a straight line and on the track. A turbo s is made for straight line speed and would smoke u. Corvettes are a dime a dozen on the road. I've only seen 1 gt3 in my life. Corvettes are a poor man's sports car 😂 interior wise is night and day too

@olivergrizzly6346

Ай бұрын

@@user-my4xu4gf1zI would hope a Turbo S and GT2 would gap a Z06 considering the price difference, but in a straight line, the ERay would gap both. Pretty embarrassing when the ERay is $200k or $400k less.

Watching their bodies being jostled in both, I, at sixty-six, will opt for the Z06 - the GT3 seemed to have a really rough ride. When younger, I could afford neither, now, at sixty-six, give me creature comforts!

I am grateful to be able to live vicariously through these videos. I unfortunately will probably never own one of these amazing cars, but I can at least get to appreciate the beauty through the internet.

Warms my heart: "level of mutual respect between these teams..." That's the way it should be in this little corner of the automotive world. Hope to see this rivalry and tradition continue another 30 or 40 years

Man, it is fantastic to see the strides Jack has made as a presenter over the years. He makes it look so easy. And the production quality is off the charts! Amazing work, both of you!

@alfredooliva5175

Жыл бұрын

he actually sucks as a presenter. Mark is much more of a natural

The camera angles on this video were incredible, thank you for making this. I'm a fan of German cars but I have say the zo6 seems like a tremendous value (even tho it's extremely expensive) and Porsche nickel and dime for everything. I haven't driven a vette in 15 years but they're raw and fun to drive.

I have a 992 GTS and a C6 ZR1. Had a 991.2 GT3. Having both a Corvette and a Porsche allows one to really appreciate the nuances and differences with the cars and corporate philosophies. Love the Porsche and Corvette teams got together to help make this video. Hope to get a C8 down the road but that weight concerns me and I love the relative analog feel of my C6 ZR1. A lot of steering input at the limit on that not quite round steering wheel in the Z06. Looks knife edge and tiring. Finally, this is the longest KZread video I’ve ever watched beginning to end. Well done, gentlemen. Very well done.

Absolutely killer content as usual guys. I gave you a little tip, because I was so grateful you compared two cars that are very obviously direct competitors, and I feel that most journalists would shy away from comparing these brands directly. Bravo!

@super1234567891011

Жыл бұрын

Good man!!

@jackmehoff9909

Жыл бұрын

Cool

@warwolf0

Жыл бұрын

I think Most OEM's (think Ferrari) don't let their cars do comparisons

@jasonmurdoch9936

11 ай бұрын

Yeah because most journalists are little whiny beta male cry babies TFL oops didn't mean to say that but true

Beyond awesome, guys. Magnificent production. This is what automotive journalism used to be. Kudos.

@andoletube

Жыл бұрын

Actually, this is better than it used to be.

Amazing video chaps, brilliantly filmed and love, love, love the technical discussion and graphics. This really sets your videos aside from other reviews of these cars. Brilliant, thanks!

Awesome comparison and so close. I own both Corvette and Porsche so it's super cool to see the top dogs in duke it out. The main thing is the rich history that Porsche has on the track from day one with no floundering, no wavering and no compromises. All of their special models from the beginning of their history are valued and highly cherished and Porsche still supports them. GM on the other hand is still a newcomer to this in comparison and my only reservation is will they be able to bang out the laps and compete with the proven quality that Porsche brings to the table. Porsche was winning races in the 1970's with those outstanding racing cars when Chevrolet barely phoned it in with their production Vette. But man did the Corvette engineering catch up fast in the last few decades. Really fast.

This is just too good for KZread. We don't deserve this masterpiece of a production 😭

I've been a porche fan since childhood and the gt3 tops my list of dream cars. That said, I break my neck everytime i see a new corvette on the road, the presence of the car is amazing. the corvette being half the price, American made, and the pinical of American engineering makes me second guess my dream garage set up.

@bvoyelr

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Corvette is staggeringly recognizable. Costs quite a bit of visibility, but hopefully it's worth it!

@rhollyday

Жыл бұрын

My wife wows at every C8, but she didn't even notice a rare mauve GT3 touring.

@TRX25EX

Жыл бұрын

I drove both and by far GT3 better to me.... Z06 balance is just off and weight difference is noticeable + from inside the GT3 sounds better and there's more drama while Z06 you need to open roof or windows to enjoy most of it's sound, doesn't scream as good as GT3 oe 458 did for me

@craigthescott5074

Жыл бұрын

@@TRX25EX the Z06 is faster and sounds better to me. And a lot less money.

@TRX25EX

Жыл бұрын

@@craigthescott5074 if you care about which is faster then you shouldn't be buying any lol, these are driving experience not 0-60 times, go buy a Tesla and it will destroy these 2 if you want that.... As for sound better in Z06 that's big BS only KZread videos will tell you, the fact that Z06 uses noise cancelling tech to improve the sound inside and get rid of unwanted noise it shows why GT3 sound better and more natural, what matters to driver is interior sound and GT3 is simply better, it have more character more noises more intake sound than Z06...... Infact i owned 458 which have similar engine to Z06 but higher RPM yet I still pick GT3 flat 6 over it...... If you want even crazier sound experience go try GT4RS and you will forget about every other car you can buy today (apart of hypercars), another example is GT2RS on KZread easily everyone will say GT3 sound better but when driving it I will pick GT2RS over GT3 sound anyday..... Some sounds these car produce can't be recorded or heard in these videos, GT4RS have that crazy intake sound even at 2000RPM that I couldn't hear it after recording with my phone but in person damn it's addictive!!!

It really rubs me the wrong way to see how much Porche charge for basic “niceties”. Many years ago I looked at getting either a Porche Boxster or a C5 Corvette. The Boxster not only had a higher initial sticker price, but when I looked at adding leather and fancy door sills the price jumped massively. In addition, the Corvette was considerably more powerful. I chose the C5 and I never regretted it.

Having Britt Casey Jr interview was the absolute best. He was able to break down all of the nuances of each car and that really helps us buyers see things through his lenses. We can make our buying decisions with his insight. Hope this style of video production is in all comparison videos. Thanks :)

I could not have dreamed of a better comparison video, and to have it done so beautifully by Savagegeese... it just doesn't get any better. I have loved Porsche's and Corvettes since childhood, who hasn't right? But that C8 Corvette, and specifically the Z06, just makes me feel... I can't believe I'm saying this... but it makes me proud to be an American. I LOVE the GT3, but, it's a Porsche. It's almost "supposed" to be amazing. Then I look at the Z06, and what it is, and what it can do, and I'm like: F#$& YEAH!!!! I don't think I've EVER wanted something I absolutely do not need and really can't afford in my life. It is so freaking awe-inspiring. I just want to buy one to not only enjoy, but to thank Chevrolet for bringing it to life. Thank you, Mark and Jack, for showcasing your amazing abilities with yet another awesome video. If I ever do buy a Corvette, Chevrolet is going to owe a portion of that sale to your work. Bravo gentlemen. BRA-VO!!!!

Congratulations on an epic review and comparison. I’ve been a fan of this channel from day one. Through its growth and evolution, you guys had never ceased to amaze me. As a diehard car enthusiast, I’m just so grateful that this channel exist. Bravo!

@WhiteLivesMatterPL

Жыл бұрын

Scott Turbowski fan?

Tip of the hat to the Porsche and Corvette teams for helping to make this thoroughly enjoyable video possible, as well as Savageese. Their passion is uplifting.

Excellent review! You guys are easily the best car review channel out right now with the attention to detail and exposing the actual driving characteristics that the cars you review are capable of. Love it and keep it up!

First of all magnificent production. You guys' videos always add a documentary type style to reviewing cars. It makes it feel like an episode from TV. Second that Z06 engine noise is so crazy.

@razvandavid1510

Жыл бұрын

Z06 sounds like a Ferrari 360 CS, which I absolutely adore.

@Dowlphin

Жыл бұрын

There could have been more external sound demo, and as for the Z06, I guess the fake engine noise cannot be turned off, so that's a turn-off. Hard to compare excitement level here when one is faking it.

@ianedmonds9191

Жыл бұрын

@@Dowlphin Always THE BEST production values on KZread by a huge margin. It has always been so. Amazing head to head. I'd still take the Porsche. Keep keeping on. Luv and Peace.

@ronretired282

Жыл бұрын

@@Dowlphin I think he made an error concerning the sound in the ZO6. It is not fake at all. The chief engineer of Chevy explained the muffler tips are shaped like a reverse megaphone. This arrangement has the benefit of sending the sound forward to the cabin.

@Dowlphin

Жыл бұрын

@@ronretired282 Uhm... reverse megaphone? You need to expel the exhaust cases, so you cannot reflect sound pressure forward there. Look at them at 9:44. And that wouldn't mean they're satisfied with the sound. Jack specifically said they're using ASD to remove unwanted frequencies and fake engine noise to add some others, while showing the center speaker between the seats.

Had to watch this video again and again and it is fantastic. A true and fair comparison with a minimum of bias. Chevy and Porsche teams were engaged and gave it their best efforts. The GT3 is a tremendously capable track focused car. The Z06 is a tremendously capable track car that is fun to drive as a grand tourer. Amazing that the Z06 can have all the human creature comforts with head turning looks and match or outperform the world's best designed track focused cars. Congratulations to team Corvette engineers, they accomplished what few have ever been able to do.

@sean70729

Жыл бұрын

Huge facts.

@getoverit123

Жыл бұрын

Minimum bias??? Nobody unbiased could possibly pick this Vette over a 911 GT3. Go drive them. Go own a Porsche and a Vette. What a joke.

@getoverit123

Жыл бұрын

This is a slick ad paid for by GM and not an unbiased comparison test. Go drive these cars yourself. The GT3 is WAAAAY better.

@sonicmoj1

Жыл бұрын

@@getoverit123 Is the GT3 a WAAAAAY better daily driver on the roads than the Z06?????

@Mandolin1944

Жыл бұрын

@@getoverit123 Get some "Preparation H" for your butt hurt Porsche fanboy. 😂🤣😂 The cold hard FACTS are on all tracks, except maybe a go-cart track, and on the street also the Corvette "Z07" is a faster car, a better all around and more practical daily driver, with WAY MORE driver and comfort features and it STILL costs $100K less than the 911 GT3. You lose all all counts. This video has the FACTS & PROOF and you have your BIASED OPINIONS.

Thank you for making these incredible videos. Your passion for cars as well as passion for high quality video production makes it a joy to support you through Patreon. I can personally say that I've learned more about cars AND producing videos from your channel than anywhere else. Cheers.

Wow!! What a comparison video!😳💯. The two of you have just set a new standard and benchmark for the industry on comparison videos! Absolutely epic! Looking forward to more videos like this one.🎉

The 911 vs Corvette rivalry has been going on for decades.. And wow, what progress they've both made!

@robb5828

Жыл бұрын

Forget about Porsche,they're in their own league.I'd rather see the Viper come back and rival the Corvette :(

@bliglum

Жыл бұрын

@@robb5828 Viper was great

Amazing! I'm still baffled why this channel doesn't have millions of subs.

@tier1detailing

Жыл бұрын

Probably cause it sounds like a Nat Geo channel for rabid geese

@rhollyday

Жыл бұрын

Bible: Swine dis pearls

@Dowlphin

Жыл бұрын

Because they're not trying to do what the others are doing. Priorities are somewhat different.

@mtndewman1022

Жыл бұрын

cuz they tell it like it is

@hazardeur

Жыл бұрын

because it's actually good

Thankyou GM PORSCHE AUTOBAHN CC & Savagegeese for so generously sharing these fabulous automobiles and your resources!!! I've driven this track at speed many times and you made me feel just like i was right there in the car with you!! Best revue I've ever seen!!

I’ve been watching your channel for years. Y’all truly make reviewing cars an art form. From one car nut to another, thank you for the reviews!

The opening sequence featured some stunning cinematography. The shot of the Corvette sliding sideways was very reminiscent of an iconic Top Gear scene with an R8 and a 911 if I recall correctly. Masterfully done, y'all.

I have to give GM credit, that engine is fantastic. Great content here. It's really enjoyable hearing the detailed comparison.

Tight track favored the GT3s agility which kept it so close, the Vette was fighting for front end grip a lot more in its run. On a more open track the Vette's power and downforce advantage would open up a much bigger gap

@jackholmes8105

Жыл бұрын

Yup conclusion we came to in our track analysis. Make the track smaller the gt3 comes ahead, grow the straights the z06s Lead grows.

@hummingbird9149

Жыл бұрын

The GT3 makes more downforce though

Your channel has come a long way, congratulations on getting such a phenomenal amount of participation from the top car manufacturers in the game!

THIS is the video we have all been waiting for. A million thanks for creating such a masterful comparison of these two incredible cars. I especially respect how you guys were able to bring the engineering talent together from both teams and then have a true pro level expert driver wring them out like never before in any other comparison. A new benchmark has been created through your efforts. Congratulations and thank you!!!

Amazing video gents! It is awesome that both manufacturers made this experience happen - these are two tremendous automobiles.

The C8 is a very well styled sports car body, never failing to pique my interest. It also strikes me as a bit of overreach, in that it may not age well. Yesterday, I saw a C8 and C7 within about 15 minutes while driving and was struck by how graceful the C7 body remains, despite its technical obsolescence. If Chevrolet can control themselves with the ridiculous carbon fiber parts - splitter, wing, engine intake, and silliest of all the ‘diffuser’ - the C8 stands a chance of one day being the only Corvette, as they got the important stuff really right.

Among many things. One thing I really appreciate, is how fair you both are in your testing reviews. No bias, just facts. Where there is bias, you'd let us know. Great reviews all the time.

This is some high end entertainment production quality. Thanks for taking the time to showcase these two awesome vehicles.

You guys keep raising the bar with each video! Stuff like this is the reason why you guys are the only car review channel I watch. Truly great stuff!

Great video. Even though it's a bit longer, it kept me watching the whole time. And very fair compairisons...Look forward to your future videos...

Loved the video guys!!

@zanechristiansen

Жыл бұрын

there he is!

@THESLlCK

Жыл бұрын

Hate all yours. Embarrassing brochure readings for ADHD laden manchildren. Worst car reviews of any platform to date.

This is a true gift to car enthusiasts everywhere. Thank you for your hard work and passion on 2 of the most exciting cars on sale today.

Not enough CVT and corporate buzzwords on the video. Very dissapointed Mark and Jack. Disliked and unsubsribed.

Z06 extra power around corners makes a big difference in fully slamming it around corners

Excellent video. A recommendation is to do the video as sold price, not MSRP because it’s misleading. The admin price markups were briefly mentioned but are a key factor. In SoCal you can more easily get a C8 at MSRP and maybe $10k- $25k over for a floor model that is needed ASAP. Porsche on the other hand has dealerships that screw over its clients with 150k-200k+ over (pricing as of yesterday, 4/22/2023) at local shady dealerships like Porsche San Diego or Porsche Carlsbad. So a $175k C8 Z08 v. a $375k+ 992 GT3. It’s time for Porsche to actually solve the dealership problem.

10/10 guys. Absolutely the best 44 minutes of car enthusiast content in any recent memory. You guys have vision and it shows, incredible.

Mad respect to the Porsche and Corvette teams and everyone else that made this possible. Mark, Jack, you guys are the best. Thank you for your dedication to quality content.

Thank you for making this video. I’m so happy that the Porsche and Corvette team chose your channel to do this head to head - this is for the true car enthusiast that appreciates instead of diss other people’s vehicles

You know, I've owned 2 P cars: a 2006 GTS and a 2010 PannyS (which I still own and dearly love). In watching this video, two things struck me: 1.) The ZO6 requires a lot of erratic steering adjustments throughout an entire corner, and 2.) The lack of brake pedal feedback noted is quite discerning. As such, I give the win to the GT3. Let me explain: I used to race Formula Ford for a while and there I learned the need for absolute trust one gets from steering & brake feedback. Without the ability to trust them 100% of the time, my lap times dropped by seconds. In my PannyS, those two traits are what I depend on every time that I set out to do some quick driving on public roads. I do not saw the steering wheel back & forth and can easily judge where the brake limit and feel are happening. It is these things that makes for great street driving quickly, securely and safely. So, in the end, the P car wins on merits and not brand snobbery. Have a great day everyone.

@FL50ssp

9 ай бұрын

Seriously? Then you aren't pushing hard if you don't need to make small steering adjustments. Ever seen in-car footage of IMSA/WeatherTech/Trans AM...etc? Drivers are constantly making steering corrections when they move between grip and loss of traction. Heck, I do this in my 2019 SS 1LE and I'm a weekend warrior. The difference for me is unlike you admitted above, I do this on a proper closed course so as to not endanger the general public. And news flash... car is ideal at race/session start and as things come up to temp there is fall off... you will never be 100% comfortable unless you are going slow. Try it sometime it is exhilarating!

The 2 most exciting cars out today! Both are pinnacle tier machines that are what dreams are made of. This vid earned a donation!

This level of quality and detail is pretty impressive for just a two man crew, keep up the good work!

Possibly the best Savage Geese video ever produced! Your quality, creativity and entertainment value continues to grow. Congratulations!

Incredible video. Appreciate all the work you guys put into a production like this.

probably the only video in years i watched all the way through without stopping or even taking my eyes off the screen. absolutely incredible. i sent this video to my old boss who i assume goes to autobahn frequently in his 944 race car even though its been 12 years since i talked to him LOL

I’ve never commented on KZread before, but your videos are by far the best and most technical out there. I have to give credit where it is due. The amount of time and effort must have been tremendous. Keep up with the great work!

@jackholmes8105

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words.

@a.c.e.7568

Жыл бұрын

I like their video on engine break-in.

what a great vid. particularly on the same time. and i LOVED the garmin breakdown at the end. one of the best comparison videos ive ever seen. proper done A vs B.

Also damn, I love the GT3 and it's engine but the Corvette sounds spectacular, I also think the Z06 looks fantastic.

@patatr4943

Ай бұрын

ZO6 looks like a knock off ferrari 😂

Thank you for pitting some of the best cars in the world against each other! (The Lotus Emira is very close to my heart, too...) I have a deposit down on the C8 Z06 and while I am patiently waiting, I cannot get enough of my base manual 996 911. Long live gas-powered cars!

@jackholmes8105

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the gift❤

Congratulations on making such complex, fair, informative comparison, only to deliver the most fair verdict: Each to their own. I know a lot of viewers want a clear cut answer as to which is better, also it would probably create more hype around the video and anger the fanboys if you said "the z06 is so much better" or "forget the corvette, the gt3 is the best car ever", but this is what people have to realise: even if product A is objectively better in one or even most regards than product B, there could be a person who somehow falls for the charm of product B and would not trade it for anything. Once again, thank you for your time, money, energy for putting together such a great video!

Wish the C8 had a manual option. Thank u to all involved, in making this happen.

You guys make the best car content on YT hands down. The production, editing, and of course content, is top tier.

Huge shoutout to Porsche NA and GM teams for letting this happen💪

Thank you so much for probably the most objective car comparison I've ever seen or read. Awesome work savage geese, you guys rock!

Times change…imagine that a couple of youtube dudes get to do the first Z06 c8 vs 992 GT3 on video format. And done damn well. Thanks guys 🎉 and congrats on killing it!!!

You guys have officially found and blown your niche wide open within KZread. So much quality over absolute quantity, which is a rarity now. It's become simply incredible.... a true automotive pleasure to watch in so many regards. We cannot thank you enough. These cars have gotten so insanely good that it seems to be splitting hairs to find where one excels over the other, especially when they spend most of their time on the streets for a lot of buyers. And finally, thank you to GM and Porsche. Where some other high end car manufacturers have openly stated they don't want their cars being benchmarked and compared against one another for these videos, both of these companies were willing to step forward and show the best of what these platforms currently offer with nearly every controllable variable being held equal. It truly feels as if the lap times could have been multiple seconds apart and no one would really have lost. Two world class vehicles.

The editing in SG videos is phenomenal. There’s nothing cut and layered this well on this platform.

@ganymede3141

Жыл бұрын

Jason Camisa on Hagerty?

@ianedmonds9191

Жыл бұрын

@@ganymede3141 I do enjoy his stuff too. Different vibe though. These guys are more technical and factual. Jason is an entertainer. Both excellent.

@ganymede3141

Жыл бұрын

@@ianedmonds9191 True dat, on both counts. 👍

This was a sick video. I know you said it's a lot of work, but I hope you enjoy the position you are in to experience all of this. Thank you for producing this.

Great homage to the 80s, 90s, and 2000s epic car and driver covers (and articles) of these two “rivals”.

My God, that Z06 sounds good at full tilt!

Great work Jack and Mark. You both bring the passion out for everyday drivers like us. Thank you!

What an awesome test day. Tires make such a huge difference, thanks for all the extra attention to detail guys. Well done.

Hands down, one of the most informative videos I've ever seen! Well done to all involved! Like you stated in the video, 99% of the viewers will never drive or own these cars but with the detail information that you uncovered gives me the satisfaction of driving and owning. Thanks again for the effort to put this together.