Aston Martin Vantage | More Money, Less Problems
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We do a first drive on the track and the street in the new V8-powered Aston Martin Vantage. We cover the technical changes, engineering, and pros and cons of this nearly $200,000 Luxury Sports Car. Would you take this over a Porsche 911 Turbo, Lexus LC500, or Mercedes AMG?
#cars #technology #business
Index:
00:00 Intro and Highlights
2:54 Engineering
13:03 Track Drive
17:37 Street Drive with @TheSmokingTire
23:33 Final Thoughts
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Jack knocking it out of the park again. Good on Mark for giving him room to do so. What’s special about Jack in these interviews with engineers is the clear respect going both directions, but also the classic giggle and joking around the engineers get in on too. It humanizes them beyond what just putting them on screen does. Allows them to deviate from some of the crafted material they have to stick to, and be themselves. Jack does this very gracefully. This car looks amazing. Great video.
@user-su1kp7nh7c
20 күн бұрын
Yeah i didnt expect hawaiian silver back gorillas being so adorable.
I know the 911 is probably a far better car dynamically, probably faster on the road and the track, and likely more reliable… But I don’t care. If I was getting a car in that price range, I’m getting this thing. At the end of the day, these types of cars will very rarely be driven at 9 or even 10/10ths, so who cares that the turbo S is a better driving machine at the limit? I’d prefer to turn around in every parking lot and see this thing sitting there waiting for me.
@Maelstrom8
20 күн бұрын
I'm with you. Astons just hit that perfect balance of beauty, power, and class in a way that Porsche does not for me.
@skythundersky1544
20 күн бұрын
That's what it's about. Stats and numbers don't mean anything, it's all about feel and emotions
@JDMEXforme
20 күн бұрын
Porsche might be more reliable but Astons are more rare, classy and elegant. A perfect GT car. If it weighed less it would be quicker to 60. I would take a brighter color over a dark on this car. Silver with bronze wheels
@autobausspov
20 күн бұрын
If I am buying a 200K car, I don't want to lose 100K in a few years and drive a worse thing just because it's "more rare". Yes, some might not care, but depreciation is a giant issue with this, not Porsche, so taking such a big hit + worse driving + worse reliability + way more $ to fix and prob insure + far shorter warranty (porsche is up to 15 years) + less dealers and you question if it's really worth it. Just rent it for X months for like 5-20K and be done with it, then drive porsche and re-rent when you want it
@skythundersky1544
20 күн бұрын
@@autobausspov You act like buying a sportscar is a rational decision
Imagine if they banned geese from arbys
@rahulmenon6073
20 күн бұрын
they would end the channel then and there.
@shishkebaba
20 күн бұрын
casus belli for ww3
@JagAss-ls7ie
19 күн бұрын
Oh, God, don't get them started...
@c_solly5892
18 күн бұрын
They have the meat
An AMG engine wrapped in a gorgeous interior and exterior is hard to dispute.
@WhiteLivesMatterPL
20 күн бұрын
Looks like ford mondeo
@ouch9326
20 күн бұрын
B58 ONLY!!!!! lol. there is a video of some old bmw sounding more like the usual v12.theres patent by ferrarito change exhuast flow for a better sounding turbo engine maybe coming soon to new ferrari . gma t50 sounds best inside car, more exciting than lexus lfa , 8 in 1 header, 12in 1 etc is nicer sounding but lot worse power .inline5, inlin3 i smost effceint , a youtuber put lambo exhuast on honda civic inline 4 , inline 3 sounds better
@T3rm3nator
20 күн бұрын
@@WhiteLivesMatterPLFor those that do not know cars, yes you are right
@jkliao6486
20 күн бұрын
@@WhiteLivesMatterPL For a blind person, it's very impressive that you managed to write a comment that is in standard English.
@WhiteLivesMatterPL
20 күн бұрын
Remember to attack the person, not the comment!
A great review and, so far, the only one to include an interview with one of the Aston Martin engineers, which is very much appreciated. For me, I'm just so glad Aston Martin are now building cars with no excuses needed. Beautiful inside and out, with epic performance and great handling, helped by excellent electronics. And I'm glad that Aston focus on it being a road car first and foremost. That's were most of them will spend 99% of their time and its why a ZF 8-speed auto is exactly the right transmission for it. So, GREAT JOB Aston Martin......now bring on that 824hp V12 Vanquish 🙂
@misternordberg3675
20 күн бұрын
no automatic is the perfect transmission. Fail
@doriangray2347
18 күн бұрын
@@misternordberg3675 you dont own $100k+ sport cars right? in traffic, on a date, rolling through a countryside, going to dinner in NY City, the ZF auto is what you want. One cannot ever push any of these cars. the PDK by porsche is the only good dual clutch. ZF makes the most sense and can be repaired and refurbished.
There's just something about an AMG engine paired with stunning design that hits different. You can have the technical superiority of a 911, but the emotional connection of seeing this beauty in your driveway every day? That's priceless. Who else would choose heart over numbers?
@naarealy
20 күн бұрын
I'm not good enough to exploit all of the performance from a fast 911, but my eyes can appreciate every bit of this Aston
@DontReadMyProfilePicture566
20 күн бұрын
Don't read my name!
@darkmatter6714
19 күн бұрын
I hear you. Who would you rather have hanging off your arm at a cocktail party, Serena Williams or Ana Kournikova? One hits harder, faster and is the better tennis player, but…
@alexandercura1523
18 күн бұрын
I’ll buy its in a few years for 60% off
@albertogonzalez1746
14 күн бұрын
I’ll take a GT3 with PDK
Lol "thanks Mark"
@wccrispy
17 күн бұрын
Jack confirmed that it's an joke carried over from the 2024 Nismo Z video from ~7 months ago. 😂
Lance stroll got a promotion from jr driver to owner of Aston Martin
@Trollollolollol
20 күн бұрын
😂 please tell me that's a joke
@nf1369
20 күн бұрын
I'm sure he meant Lawrence but that made me laugh. 🤣🤣
@hduncan2587
17 күн бұрын
if Lance is the new owner, it's time to be concerned about Aston's forward collision mitigation technology. [And for readers many years from now who are not in the know about the most recent Formula 1 race weekend at the time of this posting: Lance Stroll, son of Lawrence Stroll who owns Aston Martin right now, rear-ended Daniel Ricciardo during a safety car, lifting the back of Danny Ric's car off the ground]
"It genuinely feels like a $200,000 car." That's quite a statement. 'Can't begin to understand how a car can feel like that kind of money - but I'd like to.
@misternordberg3675
20 күн бұрын
Just do one of those track day supercar things. I did one in a lamborghini. Honestly overrated IMO
@duckylucky6505
20 күн бұрын
Fortunately due to the generousity of the Aston Martin depreciation curve you just have to wait a few years and you can see what a $100,000 Vantage feels like.
@MichaelAMangone
19 күн бұрын
Good point. Going from a Mirage to a Mazda3 to a 330i to a Macan to a 911, the differences in feel diminish. Especially once the jump to the ubiquitous ZF8HP on RWD platforms is made. Then, when you get into the Bosch, Continental, and ATE parts bins for steering racks, brake systems, and differentials, they can't feel that much different.
@JB-zu5gb
18 күн бұрын
@misternordberg3675 assuming you drove a Huracan?
@jrgb9945
9 күн бұрын
Bitcoin baby
This will be a timeless design, beautiful.
@carsaregood911
20 күн бұрын
IMO it's ugly, the 4.3 V8 Vantage is gorgeous
@313soldier313
20 күн бұрын
As all Aston Martin are.
Excellent work! Zack came across naturally and vibed with SG!
@misternordberg3675
20 күн бұрын
that's a little too much excitement buddy, let's take it down a notch.
Not really shaken, but a lot of soul stirring from that engine. A beautiful dying breed. I enjoy these reviews with engineering and designer input. There is some corporate and PR talk behind it, but they get asked a top question that gets them out of their comfort zone, and they try to answer it without stepping on the company's toes.
As a happy new 992 C4GTS customer, this does look like an amazing alternative. I doubt I would ever pull the trigger but it’s at least a valid alternative now. Good video Jack, absolutely class act.
@--Wingman--
2 күн бұрын
I actually will choose this over the Porsche, it’s just that good now 👌
Jack + Zack = lethal combo
Omg, my favorite journalists having a play date! J-ack and Z-ack! 😊
@misternordberg3675
20 күн бұрын
keep your pants on.
@DontReadMyProfilePicture566
20 күн бұрын
Don't read my name!
@redbaron5308
19 күн бұрын
Ack ack ack 👽
@redbaron5308
19 күн бұрын
@@misternordberg3675lmfao 😂
I need to buy a new tv to fully appreciate SG and Hagerty vids.
@jenniferhay5249
10 күн бұрын
Right? One of the only youtube channels that looks great on my 4K oled. use them to test the settings
The Vantage's interior looks incredible. Especially compared to previous Aston Martin's and even the Lexus LC.
@DontReadMyProfilePicture566
20 күн бұрын
Don't read my name!
@aprtur
20 күн бұрын
At roughly double the price, there's no reason the Aston shouldn't be at or above the level of the LC. They've been on a slow trajectory for it, but at least they're there now.
I would loooooove to own either an LC500 or a Vantage one day. The LC is relatively attainable but the Aston would be an actual dream come true. What a beautiful car, inside and outside, and maybe just as importantly, beautiful to listen to as well.
they FINALLY redesigned that half-assed headlight on the pre-facelift cars
@rns6889
14 күн бұрын
More like went back to the Ian callum design of the past 😂, love it though, it's timeless.. Those type of headlights are so sweet and charismatic. And I'd have to mention that the f type also has the same design, not anymore.. What a blunder.
@jim1013yyf
14 күн бұрын
@@rns6889 good point. The new design, or the old Ian Callum design are much more tasteful and timeless.
@PlayinWithMahWii
14 күн бұрын
I'll miss the old headlights truthfully. The new headlights are way too large for the slim tail lights, but maybe it looks different in person. It certainly looks more like an Aston, admittedly!
I know my local stiffness is greatly increase after seeing this video.
@AK_Catholic_Traditional
20 күн бұрын
RIP in peace for being Quadriplegic
@zackklapman3569
20 күн бұрын
😂
@gladdy02
20 күн бұрын
😮
@michaelwilkinson5097
18 күн бұрын
Dayyum.. you beat me to it...😂😂😂
Great to see Zack out from under the dark umbrella of The Smoking Tire (fire.)
Savagegeese (and Jack in particular) have a gift when speaking to engineers that have designed these cars of getting them to describe their passion for designing cars people want in lamens terms instead of just asking the typical auto journalist questions (How much more power, what's the 0-60, why's it got a Mercedes engine) and that's why I keep coming back to this channel
the best part of this review is jack vs british jack
Zach cameo was fucking sick NGL
Love the slip up saying Lance owns Aston Martin 😅
Looks like the Stroll influence has had a positive impact on the product line. A manual version will be smoking hot.
@anydaynow01
20 күн бұрын
Maybe if they gave Cosworth a call to set them up with a proper NA engine and h shift transmission!
Awesome job, Jack. Alpha in the interview, well composed speech and technique during the track segment 🤙
@jackholmes8105
19 күн бұрын
Thanks man!
Jack has been such a perfect addition to savagegesse. Mark's production quality has always been top notch, but adding a genuine engineer with insightful questions conducting sit down interviews of manufacturers engineers is just another way y'all separate yourselves from your peers. Mark in post using charts and graphs leading us through the interviews works so perfectly you almost have to wonder why your competitors don't use the same available information from the manufacturers. Like Mark, I'm a bit older, jaded and cynical. No disrespect. But pairing that type of personality with someone a bit younger, with a less dry sense of humor and a healthy... very healthy.. sprinkling of gorilla ape-man tire frying knuckledragging cromag hyperintellingent engineer works perfectly. You're both complex gentlemen with a wide range of skills and dispositions. It just feels fully balanced and complementary. The Ying and the Yang. So many times, my feed gets blasted with 10-20 reviews the moment the embargo is lifted. I always wait to see if y'all had an opportunity for a crack at that launch. 80% of the time, I go straight to your review. Occasionally, I check out a shorter review by one of your less comprehensive peers, then I check out your's just to see the vast difference between the 2. When I take that route, quite often I'm surprised by something new or just reminded again why I feel y'all are head and shoulders above all of your peers. From the technical prowess and indepth interviews, to the look under the car (why does no one else even think to do this??) And the hilarious skits and jokes. The time, effort, structure, pacing, humor, production quality. It's not just one thing. It's every aspect, all the time I know Mark has talked about and exit strategy. How you don't plan on doing this for another 15 years of your life. I can understand. Doing something you love as a business can burn you out. Especially when it's done to this level with a very small team. I've said before in your comment section, I would watch you guys review toaster ovens. I would, no bullshit. I'll also be watching Jack if he continues reviewing on youtube after Mark goes out for smokes and never comes back. To be honest, I'm kinda hoping I can get and in depth comprehensive comparison review of gorrila chow so I know which one crates the most tire smoke. That is if you guys can make it that far without having warrants put out on the 2 of you for premeditated murder of your competition. Jokes aside, I really appreciate and resonate with the reviews y'all put out. The effort shows, fellas. Thank you for your hard work. Before you guys close the door for good, please give us a review on taosters or gorilla chow. Go into another review sector and s#!t all over them. They're phoning it in and someone should expose that. Who better than a jaded cynic and a gorrilagineer ?¿‽ 🛞💨😶🌫️🦍🍞🤔
I love Zack and TST. Unexpected collab but great one! :)
Red Lobster closed 50 restaurants today, mark failed.
Love when my favorite channels combine forces
I got to walk around the new Vantage at the showroom in Midtown NYC earlier this year. The car is GORGEOUS and the one on display was in the F1 team color with the AMR bright green accents. The showroom is excellent too, they can darken the entire space and there’s essentially a 360 degree customization space. It was pretty incredible and clearly Aston is taking themselves and this new car very seriously. As a Porsche fan, I would think an equivalent 911 is the more “sensible” choice, but my goodness is this car special. I’d probably rather have one of these if I’m being honest and were also $250,000 richer than I am right now
Can't wait for the 1M follower special. You guys deserve it. Been subscribed for 23 years.
Appreciate the detailed overview and getting their engineers’ perspective. Great to have the TST touch point as well. Great (to me) informative video.
Owner's name is Laurence, Lance is his son crushing cars in F1, blocking a seat from perspective drivers and keeping Aston Martin down in the midfield.
@flat6gts
20 күн бұрын
Agree 😂😂😂 although you could argue that any publicity about Lance, even if bad, is good for the brand.
@DontReadMyProfilePicture566
20 күн бұрын
Don't read my name!
What an unbelievable car. One of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen.
DCT if you want the feel of getting kicking in the nuts through your lower L2 disc in your spine. it's a feeling for sure, how the G80 went compared to the F80 i.e. this thing finally looks refined for the new Vantage-
The Jack & Zack spinoff continues!!!
Beautiful car…V8 sound…big smiles. 👍
Gorgeous looking vehicle , interior is a major improvement on the previous one. Love that blue color . That engine has that great AMG grunt tweaked by Aston Martin it's own way. A stunner !
Very well done, Jack! That was an excellent interview. Please, keep it up.
I realize the buyer for a new Vantage is very likely not cross shopping a C8Z, but it is interestingly a very similar tale with the current gen Vantage and Corvette. It’s a car that has to be everything to everyone and therefore is inherently a compromise between worlds. The Vantage is no doubt a much better looker than the C8Z, but with how exotic the drivetrain is from Corvette right now I think if someone was cross shopping it would be a very hard argument for the Vantage. I really appreciate though that the Vantage sticks to its identity rather than being so obviously a spec sheet numbers chaser.
The way a true sports car should be. Thank you for showing us this car.
I’ve had a 991 GT3 & 981-S and they are great cars especially from a resale value standpoint. But this thing just looks so good and it’s a V8. I would love to own one used in a few years.
@Ryan-rp1es
19 күн бұрын
Right, in like three years when it’s 120k it’ll be a great buy lol
Finally one of their cars almost warrants the price. I've Always loved them, but they are unique and special, and too expensive for what they are. But I want them to succeed, hope this one is a true banger.
Amazing video production. Well done!
Looks like a baby one-77 in a way.
Beautiful car, good sound, but I would still prefer the LC500 over this. On a side note, Jack, say MarTin, not MarDin.
gorgeous cinematography!
If you want your infotainment system to be future proof, make it modular and and upgradeable
@deanchur
20 күн бұрын
We used to have that with the DIN standard. Driving an old 90's beater and wish you had some music? Slap in a few door speakers and a $100 single DIN head unit, done. Try changing the infotainment now though...
@misternordberg3675
20 күн бұрын
Stop it right now! You're talking too much sense!
@dragonsystems5973
20 күн бұрын
@misternordberg3675 a car like this shouldn't even have factory infotainment, it ruins the cars ability to be timeless
This car makes me day dreaming, what a beautiful art piece. Thank you again for spoiling us with this high quality content.
Very nice car. Love the interior.
Big Aston Energy
Good to see you James! Well done team
If someone were to ask me my favorite KZread channel, just one, it would be this one. They ask all the right questions. Savage Geese I love you guys!
Interior now is absolutely gorgeous but that steering wheel is straight out of an E-Klasse Benz with an AM badge! they could change the airbag cover at least!
Love the picnic on the Tuxmat.
The most obvious competitor is Roma, for many reasons (front V8, style/appeal, price), yet most reviewers barely mention Ferrari. I wonder why?
@camryt
20 күн бұрын
Roma is totally forgotten. I’m yet to see one on the street. Up until your comment I didn’t think of it at all, which probably says a lot.
@markm7031
20 күн бұрын
@@camryt Or a Portonfino.
@S8ER
20 күн бұрын
@@camryt you've summed up Ferrari as a whole for me lately.
@darkchild130
20 күн бұрын
Everyone was disappointed by the Roma.
@joe718gt4
20 күн бұрын
A friend got a Roma only because he wasn't allowed to get a 296 without ordering one first. He said once his 296 comes in he's selling the Roma back
Perfect entrance onto 70-I in the beginning at Bentleyville. Engine is running good.
Finally. A carmaker returning to "If you can afford it, it's worth it." Love to see it.
love how this car looks!
Beautiful ride, I think this style will age greatly.
3700 lbs ? That's not bad for a current lux sports car. The days of the Lotus Elise are LONG gone.
@deathcab4booty
19 күн бұрын
it's within a couple hundred pounds of a 2005 V8 Vantage. Astons have never been lightweights.
@jrgb9945
9 күн бұрын
Ftype weighs less I think
Great review. Shortlisted!
Love the surprise appearance of Zack and your video and he in your video. Keep doing the collaborations they're fun
Very good review thanks
To put so much design & work into something only a few will ever experience
Man, look at this angle 4:36 🤤. Car is absolutely stunning.
Fewer things, less ‘stuff’ -> Fewer problems, less problematic. Sorry, had to succumb to my OCD or it would have bugged me all day. Love the channel!
@jpl8878
15 күн бұрын
It's a reference to the song "Mo Money Mo Problems" by the Notorious B.I.G. Using "less" instead of "fewer" preserves the number of syllables and keeps the same cadence as the song title. Think of it as poetic license.
@doctormoonbass9616
15 күн бұрын
@@jpl8878 I stand humbly corrected, with a good dose of, “Doh!” :)
@jpl8878
15 күн бұрын
@@doctormoonbass9616 haha it happens to the best of us.
In English, we use the word "fewer" to describe ALL things that can be counted: FEWER problems, fewer mistakes, fewer videos, fewer downvotes. It is only things and stuff which can't be counted where "less" is used: Less love. Less milk. Less hate. Less hassle. And so, when you see a sign that says, "12 ITEMS OR LESS" at a supermarket, you know you are dealing with poorly educated people.
Excellent video. Dream car for me.
Great interview, Jack.
I love the profile of the Vantage. I don’t like the front or the rear anymore, they’re both too busy for my taste. I hope to see one of these on the road since I’m sure the road presence in person is different than on video. However, for $200k I doubt I will. Personally I’d rather see cars with lower weight, lower power, and a lower price. Keep the power to weight ratio the same, but lowering the weight will improve handling, feel, and braking performance. I think those days are gone though. I don’t see getting a new car for that reason.
Engine sounds awesome! Car looks heavy in transitions, but is confident and composed.
I drove a 2017 Vantage at Dream Racing (Las Vegas Speedway), other than the slow automatic trans shifting it was amazing. Nothing but burly V8 noise and lapped a GT-R (low performance driver) with no step-out despite ignoring my co-driver at times.
As a current E63s owner, i never would have thought a day would arrive that I thought an Aston would be in my sights...... but with Merc looking to kill the 4L V8 (seemingly) any year now... the motor I've fallen in love with may lead me into an Aston... of all things
Absolutely Gorgeous Vehicle!!!!!
Also, holy actual shit i might have a new dream car. That thing is absolutely GORGEOUS.
Drive off the dealers lot, cut the exhaust off, and tune it for E85 so you can say it has more power than a hellcat.
@zwvl
20 күн бұрын
I bet this thing roars
"Aston Mardin"
Effortlessly cool and sleek.
Excellent review! A special car indeed. Not a hybrid or a full electric or anything similar. Just a British car with a German engine and transmission. Which is a hybrid of sorts, I suppose, but still.
I know it's very early but in my opinion this is one of the best looking cars ever created!
I have started falling in love with the new (and old) Aston Martins, and this new Vantage checks a lot of boxes. With that said, I would love to see a back-to-back test between the Vantage and BMW M4, as well as the DB11 and M8. Sure, the Aston is a much better-looking car with bespoke everything. But in reality, all of the AM cars seem to be traction-limited in acceleration and almost twice the price of the BMW's.
Weight seems very good vs Lexus LC500, which lost to an AM by 1 pt in Motor Trend Head 2 Head where price no object. Now AM really stands out, makes prior AM more attainable, and extra $ over LC justifiable. AM did not need perf #s car. Respect! Back to my GSF n manual 911
best AM ever...lets see if they hold their values now..
I had to put on the subtitles to hear the conversation during the street drive.Great natural sound track it was worth it.
Nice to see Zack on here
Damn, its face looks like its in panic, scared. I liked the designs that seemed serious, mean and elegant, this is just funny looking. Great video by the way, as always
Nice looking junior One-77
I don't understand any of the tech talk it goes completely over my head but I like the look and sounds of the new AM Vantage.
Aston just makes gorgeous cars.
You guys need to review a late model V8 Vantage manual (2012-2016). I think you’d be pleasantly surprised how good it is.
@ericcipolla
20 күн бұрын
I’m between getting one of these and a 2021 Vantage right now, the manual is hard to pass up!
What a car. Hope the upcoming M5’s V8 will be as sonorous if not more…turbos tend to kill engine noise.
Beautiful car. Hopefully new relationship with Honda in F1 will help both, one with reliability and the other with materials bin.
People love Red Lobster, I just think that like everything else, the customers wallet has been stretched too thin by the bean counters at every company. I think that greed has damaged public opinion of a majority of brands in most markets. Cuz line need go up...
22:35 I'm sure Zack knows that Aston has an SUV just like the Macan... the DBX.
18:30 I totally agree!
I thought I remember hearing from you guys that we will be seeing more regular cars for regular people. I know it’s probably hard to pass something up like this however
Great looking car