With the price difference between the two, I've come to the conclusion that you can buy a lot of gas for $10k.

@robedmund9948

Жыл бұрын

So true, but if you can afford it, the diesel is a LOT more fun!

@davemTX2023

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. Not the best time to drive a diesel

@davidporter7051

Жыл бұрын

Here diesel costs less than regular unleaded.

@Slowhand871

Жыл бұрын

I’ve used my 2002 2500 diesel like a mule. That 10k extra was the best money I’ve spent. 325k hard miles towing . Zero issues

@chriscota1635

Жыл бұрын

@@Slowhand871 yes but no DEF or strict emission setup in that 2002

So I have had both. I HAD a 2020 2500 Duramax and I currently have a 2022 2500 6.6 gas. Both were 4wd crew cabs with 20” wheels. So very similar trucks. My thoughts are: 1) there’s no comparison on power. But that’s a given. And also, the 6.6 gas is no slouch. Empty driving and 0-60 they are very similar. 2) my L5P got 2 mpg better in almost every scenario. 2 mpg better daily driving. 2 mpg better towing my 8.5’x24’ enclosed car trailer. And 3 mpg better on mostly interstate driving. Those numbers are 14-15 daily for the gas, 16-17 diesel, 8 towing for the gas, 10 diesel and 17 interstate for the gas, 20 for the diesel. My final thoughts are I like them both. The diesel is another level as far as towing but again the gas does pretty good and I can maintain my speed limits towing, even on an 8% grade I have. Ultimately until the emissions nonsense gets more reliable and/or just goes away, I think I’m sticking with the gas trucks going forward. The upcoming 10 speed will be a big boost to the L8T towing steep grades too. Still won’t be diesel like but will be an improvement on something that’s already pretty good.

@atg1338

Жыл бұрын

Duh

@tylough

Жыл бұрын

So fuel bill is about the same for both engines. Maintenance is way cheaper for one though 😅

@matthewanderson9912

Жыл бұрын

@@tylough pretty similar yes. With fuel prices I have local to me today ($3.089 regular and $4.299 diesel) to go on my racing trip (248 mile round trip) it would cost me about $91 in gas and $100 in diesel. So it really just depends on fuel prices. Takes about 6 more gallons of gas to do the same trip for me as it did when I had the diesel. Maintenance on an L5P is not nearly as bad as people think. Now that’s not counting the emissions system components. Just oil, filter, fuel filter and air filter. Honestly I could change oil in my diesel cheaper than my gas if it was just an oil change. Now if it was fuel filter and air filter then it would have been more. I liked my diesel but I didn’t like it enough to take a chance on more emissions problems.

@Jbennyho

6 ай бұрын

Good informative comments and info.

@RockSolid87

4 ай бұрын

Great review Matt!!

Keep in mind, the 2024 6.6 gas will get the 10 speed transmission now as well. That will make all the difference.

@craigstark2712

Жыл бұрын

The difference in power to the tires and fuel economy is pretty significant on the 5.3 gas with the 6 speed versus the 5.3 with the 10 speed. So I'm sure it will make a big difference with the 6.6 gas as well!

@27dmarshall

Жыл бұрын

Like the 7.3L Godzilla has had since 2020.

@bsd7342

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but it has a high pitched whine and is probably more likely to fail early with all the extra gears. IMO 8 and 10 speeds are EPA nonsense designs.

@NicholasA1747

3 ай бұрын

@@bsd7342 I have to agree with that. I prefer my 6 speed on my 16 Silverado 1500

I had a 22 gas ,it got 18 highway,16 county roads .the steering was loose and brakes were horrible,all my dealer would say was it's the new design. I towed 4 ton it was great,I really liked the engine,I traded it on Ram diesel. Diesel has ran $4.25 to $6.00 ,while gas $ 3.35 to 4.50 . Then def at $16 for 2.5 gallons ,$200 for oil change,fuel filters . I wish I had kept it and sued the dealer to make right

A good thing about loud diesels especially with the l5p are the cold starts!

Enjoyed the video, took the same route basically, good to see the mileage comparison gas vs diesel

I drove a 2021 3500 6.6 Gas, crew cab, long bed 4wd WT Z71 package. Towing a trailer almost 4k pounds with a 10k pound cat skid steer on it. No problems city or freeway, got 9.5MPG. Drove from Cali to Glendale Arizona to pick up a cabinet for a customer and I mean unload, no trailer and just a Deck Tool box in the bed. I got 15.9MPG there and back. That was the best I could get out of it but I'd tell ya what, I was still going 70-80MPH on the freeway. If I remember correctly, I took the 15 North, 215, and then the 10 East to Arizona. Then I came back home to Oceanside California on the 8 Freeway, to the 805 and then the 5 North. I fueled up 1 time on the way back from Arizona to California. I was halfway to California when I fueled up. Had a quarter tank left.

Good review just put my order in for a 2024 hd 2500 gas midnight edition.

I Would Preferred The Duramax V8,But The Gas V8 Is Common Sense On Any Heavy Duty Pickup Truck 🚚.

break in is about 5000 miles on the diesel and it does get better after that , using cruise control does help also

That 6.6 gasser is receiving the 10 speed tranny for 2024. Should help mpg and overall performance.

I don't even have to watch the video, this is a no brainer Diesel hands down

Two different tools for different jobs.

Acceleration test in the rain haha ehhhh. Honestly I am really interested In the reviews with the gas and 10 speed once the 24s come out.

The biggest reason to buy diesel is the long term reliability. A duramax diesel with maintenance done on time will outlive the frame it sits in.

Anybody notice how both hoods at beginning didn’t completely close?

Love this and Ford one you did.

I just purchased a new 2024 Silverado full 4-door 8-ft bed 2500 HD with the 401 gasser and 10 speed Allison Transmission its acceleration is phenomenal runs very quiet accelerates well maintained speed no matter what the hell is without downshifting so I would have to say that you're 6-speed transmission in that test sucks I can't wait to tell my fifth wheel I have a 31 ft Forest River fifth wheel ways in a 10,000 lb can't wait to test it I'll let you know the results

@robertschermerhorn4633

3 күн бұрын

Please forgive the typos Hill not hell LOL

@robertschermerhorn4633

3 күн бұрын

And I'm averaging 13.7 Mi to the gallon at 75 mph

I have both, it's all about towing at this point, if you tow a lot get Diesel, if not so much gas is good enough, also if you tow local and you live in flat area you can get away with gas. If you tow far or leave in hilly area go with diesel, that gas have hard time going up hill or down hill with 14k pounds trailer.

@tomambrosio425

Жыл бұрын

wonder if your assessment would change with the new 10 speed tranny on the gasser?

Did you say the 6.6 litre Gas v-6 during the test drive?

Another difference is that the 2500 in this video was assembled in Canada, the 3500 in the US. 😊

It's apples and oranges. If you tow a lot, buy a diesel. I bought the gasser as my truck is primarily for plowing snow.

Yes.

Diesel all day! 2006 LBZ Duramax

I had an Ltz duramax when I towed a lot and loved it. Dropped down to a 1500 with the 6.2 when I retired. I would say if you are going to tow a lot and you are going to trade trucks fairly often go with the duramax. Resell is very good on the diesel

Ben, you have to through out there the overall cost saving of Maintenace of the Diesel over the lifetime of the truck. You could drive it 500,000 miles with no problem, where with the Gas Engine if you get 200,000 miles out of it you would be lucky.

I will keep my LML Duramax, 19 mpg country road driving with big hills.

Had the owner of a Chevrolet dealership tell me to stay away from the diesel. Said the emissions BS has ruined ownership experience.

I would have to be doing 'a lot' of heavy towing to possibly justify the higher ($10K) price and fuel cost differential of the diesel. 6.6L Gas...

@SylentONE

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget complicated maintenance costs

@johnpeters9793

Жыл бұрын

​@@SylentONE WTF is "complicated maintenance costs"???

@SylentONE

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpeters9793 those newer diesels are more complex to work on. More complex, more time, more costs. Especially the new Power Stroke

@johnpeters9793

Жыл бұрын

@@SylentONE Your statement has nothing to do with maintenance. The PSD is very maintenance friendly.....

@dirtmoney8740

Жыл бұрын

@@SylentONE my 2022 6.6 diesel is in the shop due to emission problems and I can second this. If it weren’t for warranty It would be thousands. I own 2 L5Ps and I’m considering buying a gasser next. I tow 14k everyday but the cost of maintenance and downtime is no joke.

You can get the 3500 leaf springs on a 2500.

The 10 spd trsns will have very little significant difference.

I'll keep my 20 year old federal emissions standard lb7 with Banks big hoss bundle six gun Inglewood trans 4" turbo back. 35" BFG'S 3.73 hauls mail 20-21 mpg to Vegas from so Cal. Leaks nothing smog legal in California.

If you do a real fuel economy comparison on a long distance highway road trip, the diesels will get 6 to 9 mi more per gallon than the gas engines.

@tomambrosio425

Жыл бұрын

6-9 miles more PER gallon??!!

@better_than_nothing

Жыл бұрын

@@tomambrosio425 Yes, I bought the GMC Canyon 2.8L Duramax for just this reason. The gasser 3.6 is capable, but topped out about 23 MPG when I test drove it. I was getting 29 MPG from the diesel. That's empty. When you're loaded, the gassers take a bigger hit than the diesels do. I pull a 7000 lb compact track loader with my Canyon and I get ~16MPG. I was getting 7 with the gasser. Then you have to take into account resale prices and longevity. The Duramax will run a million miles with proper care. You'll get ~300K out of the gasser before you'll need to rebuild or replace.

@Kburd-wr6dq

5 ай бұрын

@@better_than_nothingI have a 2015 1500 with the 5.3 and the 6L80. I take it down the Florida keys every year from NY and back (about 3500 miles). Unfortunately this year the torque converter went and I had to rent a 22 Ram 2500 with the Cummins. The Cummins definitely has more power but it also only gets like 2-3mpg better over the whole trip. For a truck that costs about 40k more than what I paid, I think I'll stick to gas. The Trailer and all my shit (3 kayaks, Honda grom, 3-4 bicycles) is fine with the 1500, but I got a new boat that is about 12k lbs so I think I gotta go up to a 2500.

It cracks me up the number of people who talk about the added resale value of the diesel vs. the gas, yet FEW people actually sell their vehicle, choosing instead to trade it in on another vehicle and said truck being traded in still has money owed on it. You can only talk resale value if you intend to sell it privately.

I'd choose both of these engines now Ben.

Rancho shocks are a JOKE

With all the emissions regulations systems on the diesel now days along with the sky high price of diesel there’s not a doubt in my mind i’d WAY prefer the gasoline engine. But that is just my opinion. Had a 24 valve cummins back in the day, but they don’t make the diesels like that anymore

@Mr-Bogs

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people, at least folks who know anything about diesels, agree with you. The price to buy and cost of ownership obliterate the benefits of owning diesel over gas anymore. Unless you're pulling some SERIOUS weight, the 6.6L gasser will do just fine for 99% of what the average owner needs

@johnpeters9793

Жыл бұрын

@Mr. Bogs Depends what "benefits" are important to you. The upfront costs are made up at resale. Maintenance is more expensive.... If you don't care about the power difference then you don't care. The 99% comment is so overused....nearly every purchase can be scrutinized that way. From trim levels to entire vehicles....unless you're driving a 1980's Toyota Corolla.

@Mr-Bogs

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpeters9793 Sure, upfront costs are mostly made up at resale. However, a majority of people aren't buying cars outright and instead lease or finance their vehicles. So, while yes it may be offset when the owners end up selling, they still have a bigger car payment. That's what people are going to feel more. Just like the higher cost of ownership costs in maintenance. The "99%" comment may be overused, but the fact is, it's true. And when something, that most people do not need, becomes more expensive or of a hassle than it's worth, it will fade from popularity

@johnpeters9793

Жыл бұрын

@Mr. Bogs Lol....diesels have been overkill forever...way more so now than ever with the power gap. Popularity will never wane.

@Mr-Bogs

Жыл бұрын

@@johnpeters9793 "more so now than ever" Yeah. Who tf you arguing with or are you looking for one because you have no better use of your time?

I chose the gas. No regrets.

First, LaRAM 🏆

2500 and 3500 not having the nice updated dashboard screen? or is the specific trim you chose. Looks smaller than the one in my Honda HR-V!! LOL

@dylanluhowy

Жыл бұрын

2024s get the new screen

Just traded in a 3.0L Duramax 1500 for a 23 2500 Duramax. We also have a 2019 2500 with the 6.0 gas motor. We have a 7x16 v-nose box trailer that has 6 motorcycles, tools, gear, etc. The 2500 Duramax tows our trailer really well. It’s unreal how well that thing tows. The 1500 3.0L Duramax pulled the trailer better than our 2500 6.0L but the 2500 gas towed better. Overall, the 2500 Duramax is a really good truck. I am however having a hard time justifying the the additional cost of the 6.6L Duramax. It’s a great truck and pulls really well. The fuel economy is not that great relative to the gas truck. Also, I loved that 3.0L Duramax but at 50k miles, a switch flipped and it became so problematic. It was more of a Silverado sized Tacoma for towing.

I love both gas and Diesel!!!!! But of course for a heavy truck, Diesel always wins!!!!!

I would go with gas,precision turbo kit60m 2k I’ll install it,dyno tune600$that6.6should make6an6rwhp easy7psi great mpg my6.0,3500now5rwhp 22mpg18goose neck2cars trailer

you cant do daily driving short trips with diesel..... if your DD, hauling payload and dont tow heavy a gas is way better option opposite is true with diesel.....big 5th wheels and your primary vehicle for towing you need diesel its always been this way and will continue to be......they are different trucks for different needs

Can't go wrong with Duramax!

Why doesn't anyone use a Chevrolet with duramax for car hauling?

So, I can never make up my mind! Is getting a diesel better? Or. Would getting a gas engine do the job If say you need to pull a Fifth wheel that weighs 16,000 lbs? I just cannot makeup my mind! 😂

Not really accurate on fuel economy test just doing 4 miles and adding acceleration test in there.

Is all about towing, if you daily drive is Starbucks and target go gas lol

It’s not even a question , diesel is better, and is for rich people.

Only if it won't be waste on gas

Diesel better for this size high torque AT low RPM very responsive

Take the diesel in for maintenance off warranty and your shit yourself for the repair bill go at the gas

Would be nice if a video existed of these two compared each other in towing an actual load like they were made to do instead of this city driving BS from someone who has probably never towed anything. And its always a salesman....

That hood ain’t close

Diesel all day

Just can’t like that front end…

@johnpeters9793

Жыл бұрын

Hard to believe the people that styled the HD chevy and GMC work for the same company.....total opposites on the looks department; the chevy is hideous!!

Impossible to get an accurate mpg rating on a 4 mile trip. REALLY!

Hehe I built these

Gas. The emissions stuff on all the new diesels is awful.

Not much of a comparison review

I was a strong GM supporter (still love them from '96 to about '08), but wouldn't have either of these. Government legislation has ruined the reliability, affordability of all new vehicles. And GM won't get rid of that female CEO liberal shill. She's determined to destroy GM (just look at the face on these hideous beasts). I've cash-owned and loved many GMs including multiple Corvettes, a souped-up LM7 Duramax truck, and currently 2 bulletproof Vortec Big-Block motorhomes (454 and 496 cubes baby!), a relatively rare midsized GMC Envoy XL with the 5.3V8 and 4.10gears. For a barge, it's quick and extremely reliable with 245k miles-something that can't be said about the D.I., AFM crap 5.3 engines that replaced these legendary LS V8s. Yesterday I got 21mpg with it- not bad for a 5000lb grannywagon capable of 0-60mph in 5second range with my modifications (WITHOUT all this new tech). How much is that Swamp-Faced Duramax with numerous emissions, engine, transmission, and electronic-related issues? $90,000!?

“ Get a GM” they say, “drive the best” yeah right then drive a few miles and walk the rest? Not for me dude 😅

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What is the deal with gay guys reviewing trucks in utah

@dylanluhowy

Жыл бұрын

Sorry Brian he’s married.

Ben lose the beard bro🤣