As others have said, there is no excuse for giving a bigspin hurricane a 7.8. When the judges came out scoring low I was like “ok fine as long as it stays like this” - but then it just didn’t. The scores basically went back to normal, so they just screwed over the first heat. Sora made it but the fact it was ever in doubt is insane. None of the scores from the first heat logically compare to anything that came later

@huyxhoang

Жыл бұрын

Judges must have heard how Rowley felt

@taylorlawler3525

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Felipe gets robbed a lot just for his age or something. But a big spin hurricane is easily a 9.4+

@zylxtv

Жыл бұрын

Judges mistakenly thought it was a bigspin front board, I believe. That's why there should be score "re-analysis" at the end.

@vinyasabeatz3040

Жыл бұрын

@@zylxtv judges smoking crack

@DonnieEls

Жыл бұрын

9.9 if nyjah did it

Sora & Mota got robbed while showing amazing skateboarding, judges so inconsistent. Not okay whatsoever.

@zach3955

Жыл бұрын

fr the judges need to be fired

@chruch5784

Жыл бұрын

JESUS LOVES YOU SO MUCH

@parker298

Жыл бұрын

The judges play mad favourites. Especially since they expect the big names won't be hucking their biggest tricks until the finals. Absolute joke in prelims.

@jasondashney

Жыл бұрын

Mota didn't land any tricks after that. Micky Papa murdered the course the whole time and got hosed.

@jonnnahh35

Жыл бұрын

Especially with money on the line it’s messed up

Sls judging is probably the most inconsistent scoring I’ve ever seen. Have watched everyone and every single comp it’s so different. Just glad they added the 2nd line section back in.

@internethuman420

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@waaxty4175

Жыл бұрын

Those judges a thrash, they don't even undersrand the tricks they seeing lol

@ivanignaciocortessepulveda4415

Жыл бұрын

Cierto

@CHIEF_420

Жыл бұрын

#scoringrubric

@elquepasadeti

Жыл бұрын

Totalmente de acuerdo

"that was the best trick I've seen in street league in a long time" ... 7.8

@dwightyawg7781

Жыл бұрын

😆🤬

@KraYarK

Жыл бұрын

​"Wha-the judges?? What's wrong with you guys!? Man...that was a straight up 9!!" You gotta appreciate him calling on that immediatly.

29:58 if that is a 7.8 I'm a refrigerator

sora and mota getting absolutely robbed for some of their scores wtf sls?

I can understand lower scoring at the start of preliminaries but that was ridiculous. Almost spoiled it. Do better SLS.

@BrainCake03

Жыл бұрын

almost? more like they did screwed it

@7youtubeeee

Жыл бұрын

Shane do a easy sw flip fs board on a small rail. Big spin hurricane at the big rail 7.8. 0 sense 😂

@feezible

Жыл бұрын

Had me screaming.

@jasondashney

Жыл бұрын

Yeah just ask Micky Papa. He got hosed. He should've been top 8 for sure.

@elquepasadeti

Жыл бұрын

Eso no se puede permitir...hasta mi abuela se dió cuenta!

the scoring was definitely too low in the first heat or two, and many comments here are justifiably complaining about that, but people are focusing on sora shirai and felipe mota, when mickey papa is being overlooked as the one who was the most negatively affected by just barely not making the finals cut when he easily and obviously should have. (sora shirai was also underscored, but still made it to the finals anyways, and felipe mota, after getting robbed on the bigspin hurricane, missed his next three trick attempts, although the bad score may have thrown him off) mickey papa got a score of 7.0 for the following run: 1) kickflip 50/50 on medium gap rail 2) kickflip boardslide on medium rail 3) nollie heelflip over gap 4) nosegrind on small rail 5) kickflip 5-0 on stair hubba 6) bigspin boardslide on kink rail 7) 360 flip over gap 8) kickflip lipslide on big rail that was 8 perfectly landed tricks with no sketchiness, 7 of the 8 were flip/spin tricks (4 of which were kickflip + rail/ledge combos, plus the bigpsin rail trick)... and that only got a 7.0!? compare that to some later run scores, including many runs - with falls - that got *higher* scores: - alex midler's first run, comparable if not slightly easier, got an 8.1 - midler's second run, fell once and got a 7.4 - vincent milou's first run, fell on his last trick and got a 7.8 - luan oliviera's first run, totally flubbed his last trick and got an 8.4 - nyjah huston's first run, fell on his second trick and got a 7.8 there are more examples/comparisons in later heats too, but clearly mickey papa deserved more like an 8.0 - 8.5 run score (at least), which would have given him at least another point and put him somewhere in 5th-8th place. the skaters who made the top 8 were all excellent and earned their spots, so not intending to take anything away from them or their performances, and it would really have sucked for whoever ended up in the 9th spot and didn't make the cut... but regardless, mickey papa was definitely scored unfairly and inconsistently on his run score, and it cost him the spot in the finals.

@bagel1812

Жыл бұрын

And that sir is why i did not have time to write my essay. I had to write an essay on something more important

@08Jackson08

Жыл бұрын

Mickey was robbed

@jasondashney

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. Micky got absolutely robbed on a level hardly seen. That first heat had totally different scoring. What a joke.

@CHIEF_420

Жыл бұрын

#rubric

@strumpf555

Жыл бұрын

and mickys lazer flip bs lip slide was also amazing and got not the love it deserved from the judges

nice to see Rowley stick up for Mota like that

@jeffspalding5368

Жыл бұрын

Without hesitation too!

@Devillionaire

Жыл бұрын

Rowley*. And hell yeah.

@wizdomtrust1596

Жыл бұрын

100

@KickaHippyPK

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's always been one of my favourite things about him as a commentator. He's not afraid to call out the judges when they blatantly blunder.

@josiahamaze

Жыл бұрын

@@KickaHippyPK now he is no longer here smh

People are saying it’s too early and that’s why Sora got a lower score than deserved. personally, I don’t see any excuse at all and I believe in that instance that the judges messed up and made a really poor call which did not reflect the proper score in the end.

@stevo3938

Жыл бұрын

They made a poor call on his run, so much so that they seemed to just keep giving out poor scores. 7.8 for Mota’s big spin hurricane was criminal

@stevo3938

Жыл бұрын

Then they give Milou a 7.8 for his line, where he fell…

@smowfowk2461

Жыл бұрын

sora shirai save to final...but mickey papa....oo god...he good too

@ashleybrown4754

Жыл бұрын

@@stevo3938 I don't think that's been done in any SLS before. Which makes the low score so much worse.

@ELKF91

Жыл бұрын

Not an opinion, but a fact!

sora getting hoed on the first run score

@kyolek9485

Жыл бұрын

For real how is a run THAT good only a 7.9 I taught it was going to be at least an 8.4 he made it look too easy maybe

@zibusisosihiya9021

Жыл бұрын

Bro that was bs

@ashleybrown4754

Жыл бұрын

@@kyolek9485 yup

@Corinthians-kjv

Жыл бұрын

He should have got more!

30:07 in 2022 a big spin hurricane is only a 7.8. Judges wack again

@michaelgrier6365

Жыл бұрын

Seriously wtf was that about?

@jeffspalding5368

Жыл бұрын

I love how Geoff rowly called them out.

@333revolver

Жыл бұрын

i wish we could see who the judges are so we can call them out on their social media hahaha

@weez

Жыл бұрын

@@333revolver and conflict of interests... are they scoring team members or homies higher or is it a fixed sls thing

@Jburnage

Жыл бұрын

You can: Mike Mo Capaldi, Billy Marks, Davis Torgerson, Jimmy Gorecki, and Scott Pfaff as per the SLS website and a video they dropped bragging about their judges earlier this week.

Bigsping Hurricane 7.8 ? Dude mota got robbed? What judges are watching? A game of football?

I've definitely noticed Sora being underscored in a lot of competitions... Dew tour and Olympics he was definitely underscored on a lot of tricks. Also I think it just happens a lot of the younger skaters who don't have the same name recognition as the more established guys. Definitely a bias on judging.

@08Jackson08

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@CHIEF_420

Жыл бұрын

🧂

That 7.9 for Sora was total BS. These judges are so whack

@ravenousbane3617

Жыл бұрын

and a 7.8 for a bigspin hurricane is shocking

@luongk88

Жыл бұрын

The Nyjah effect is already taking place....

@jeffspalding5368

Жыл бұрын

That 7.8 for Mota was such a downer.

@wpridgen4853

Жыл бұрын

@Kal El Literally, no. Figuratively, yes.

@Corinthians-kjv

Жыл бұрын

Bull! Sora should have won fire the judges!

Stoked to hear Malto with the announcers, he’s a good addition.

@Devillionaire

Жыл бұрын

They should just lose Cannon and keep it Geoff Rowley and Sean Malto.

@Ender_FPV

Жыл бұрын

@@Devillionaire But then who's going to yell OHHHHH into the mic?

@dont4get2wipe

Жыл бұрын

@@Devillionaire lol he’s a a little corny but he does a better job than I could.

@08Jackson08

Жыл бұрын

Fax

Seriously need to step it up on the judging. I'm tired of watching first heat get shafted all the damn time. Clean ranks if you have to, bigspin to hurricane a 7.8, blow me judges.

@sandykirkland2936

Жыл бұрын

It’s like they’re hesitant to throw out big scores early on??? I don’t know. I watched that first heat like damnnn what is gonna take for a 9 club this year….

looks like its unanimous... no one agreed with the judges... sls are you paying attention?

The judging failure is beyond apparent now and takes away from the contest. While judging skating is subjective in itself, the bias and inconsistencies are so bad. Eventually people won't watch or go and just wait for the highlights.

@luongk88

Жыл бұрын

I already do wait for the highlights bro. The judging ruins the whole scene..how can I respect someone who wins comps based on bias and not because they were the better skater. That ain't it fam.

@M.C._3369

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 👍🏽

Rowley is on the money. Glad he’s in the booth calling out the BS.

What in the actual hell is going on with the judging? First heat got absolutely screwed. Between that and what happened with Aurelian getting screwed on the score for his hardflip lateflip last contest, I really think some new judges need to be hired or something.

@zonertube

Жыл бұрын

Aurelien did it in different contest, so I think the judge is different aswell, but the reason why he got low scored on that Hardflip is because he already did hardflip variation before, its counted as repetition

@Skapo

Жыл бұрын

@@zonertube My understanding is that contest was run by the same crew just rebranded. Maybe I misunderstood. As for the hardflip lateflip over the hubba down a gap that big, I think maybe you don't quite understand how intense that trick is down/over something that big. The whole comments section was livid about it.

@zonertube

Жыл бұрын

@@Skapo I know that trick is gnarly and I am not doubting it, but first u have to read the scoring rules, u would get a lower score if u already did some hardflip variation before,, and we know he did hardflip backside 180 at the first single trick attempt

@Makabert.Abylon

Жыл бұрын

Aurelien does mostly hardflip variations, every contest. And he did it in qualifying alao. Thats why.

@luongk88

Жыл бұрын

@@Makabert.Abylon and he's still doing it because there is NO ONE else doing it in contest. But ok discredit him for including tricks that no one else in the roster can do during best trick comps. You act like every skater is dropping NBDs every SLS when it rarely happens. Ironically I'm pretty sure Aurelians hardflip tricks were NBDs until he did them.

30:32 thank you for saying this geoff!

Love the course design, it clearly doesn’t have one big spot everyone’s expected to hit if they want high scores, lots of variety or best trick

Mota should have gotten at least an 8.5

Sora has quickly become one of my favorite skaters, his style is so unique and he seems like such a cool guy

@certaindiaster59

Жыл бұрын

All of the Japanese kids that are popping up these days are f-ing amazing! A few years ago there was the “Brazilian Invasion”, I think its now becoming a “Japanese Invasion”… What a great time to be a skateboarding fan and spectator!🤘

@parker298

Жыл бұрын

He brought new tricks right when competions have just been about bug hubba tricks. You could just see in the finals the pressure he put on the whole contest.

watching manny santiago skate knowing everything will be a varial heel, front shuv, 5-0, or boardslide variation 👍🏼

Did y’all catch one of the commentators being shushed when he started to talk about the judging on Felipe Mota? Judges aren’t being “Consistently Tough” they’re tough on specific pros for no reason even when they do mad tricks, showing favoritism and keeping progression back. Be real SLS

@wizdomtrust1596

Жыл бұрын

32:27

You guys need to a least try and make it seem legit. The rigging is crazy

@Makabert.Abylon

Жыл бұрын

American judge both giving americans an advantage.. only in skateboarding

I give the judges a 3.8 for Shari’s 7.9 and a 2.8 for Mota’s 7.8.

7.8 for a bigspin hurricane on the big rail 😳 that's crazy. Let's get it together judges. I guess you want him to bigflip into it

@Knosferatu

Жыл бұрын

and get scored even lower

@Bravewhales

Жыл бұрын

@@Knosferatu you ain't lying 💯

Petition for heat 1 to get a retry before the contest starts. Very unacceptable.

The amount of control that went into mota’s trick is insane, should have been at least a 9. Sometimes it feels like the judges only give those real big scores to nyjah

@canaladvertencia

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@08Jackson08

Жыл бұрын

Ya nyjah is the favorite

@elquepasadeti

Жыл бұрын

A veces!? 😂😂😂 Buen chiste!

@ONKINGDAVID

Жыл бұрын

I mean nyjah always skates damn near perfect

@08Jackson08

Жыл бұрын

@@ONKINGDAVID still overscored tho most times

Yuto!! Back In the game

The judge is not consistent because they score Sora very low even the trick he made is more norlie than the other who got high score. Just because it’s to early to give a high score that why they didn’t not give him a high score.

@gilleschiasson2506

Жыл бұрын

I know , I don't know what is wrong with those judges but damn 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@kyolek9485

Жыл бұрын

Exactly like if u score him that low coz it’s the start it’s fine if u score everyone on the same scale I guess, but no scores came back to normal

@MaatStile

Жыл бұрын

dudem bigsping huracane not geting a 9 is an absolute insult, such disrespect, it feels like the ones giving the scores are skate 3 players getting mad cos he didn't do a 360 hardflip backflip trany, sls is such a joke

@michaelsoltys9739

Жыл бұрын

Sora should have named himself sora houston and sora horigome.... that's Sora's own fault for not realizing how SLS works.

@Makabert.Abylon

Жыл бұрын

@@gilleschiasson2506 you dont know? I do.. the pattern is pretty clear. Americans giving americans an advantage..

The finals will be insane… glad to see Shirai and Yuto, gustavo rib and nyjah on it😆😁

Bruh.. Felipe got fucked with the 7.8.. I've never seen anyone else do that in a street league 🫠

12:56 SORA !!! that line was so nuts bro

29:04 - I think this is the first time I hear that even hosts are complaining about scoring. Yeah, judging is so bad here 😡👎

@Makabert.Abylon

Жыл бұрын

Americans…

It's way less stressful to watch this and not pretend it's a competition. Just great skating. Still heartbreaking to see Mota get thrown off after getting fucked. Kids been doing this for years now. Deserves some respect.

Really glad they fixed the format where the line score actually matters! Really interesting park design too…very different than the norm and I dig it!

@M.C._3369

Жыл бұрын

Too bad the scoring is so ridiculously inconsistent....

Noticeable difference in scoring once the Prod, Shane and Luan stepped on the course

I would’ve just back board the small handrail to troll the judges if I were Felipe

@Unanythang

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why even try

Dude! So glad they brought back 2 runs

So when will the finals be posted?

7.9 for shirai’s run… crazy. Judges be inconsistent

@andreonaymayer6835

Жыл бұрын

perfectly

Berger’s second line was a 7.5 at worst and he got a 5.

It's great to see SLS back, but you need to have more consistent judging. It really spoilt the experience to see competitors getting completely screwed over for no apparent reason.

Cannot remember the last time I've seen Manny Santiago land something on SLS lol. Why they keep inviting him?

@b.l4365

Жыл бұрын

Dude a damn bum. Doing the same trick over and over again. His best trick is the varial heel 50-50. Dude is beyond pathetic at this point. Good for the fans but bad for the sport. Next ✌🏼

@malice4422

Жыл бұрын

for real. they invite him yet sora shirai had to qualify, and so many insane japanese skaters missed out. because of manny “varial heel into a grind is my only trick and i cant even land it” santiago

@sandykirkland2936

Жыл бұрын

In the end it’s a business and Manny is/was a fan favourite. The new wave of skaters is here though and a few of the older sls legends will have to make way

@NineteenEighty8

Жыл бұрын

@@sandykirkland2936 new wave of skaters but better skaters, not sponsorship bums.

@ephinskate

Жыл бұрын

He's in there because "everybody Loves Manny" or something like that. He somewhat holds it down though and was nothing Like Jimmy Carlin in SLS.

I’m just here to read the comments on incompetent judges …

bs overk 8.3 bs croocked nollie flip out 8.1 WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

9.2 for Sora’s repetitive alley oop tricks, while Felipe gets a 7.8 for a bigspin hurricane which literally no one does. I’m cool with Sora’s scores but Felipe’s trick and Micky’s laser flip back lip are both 9’s as well. Kelly.. judges.. what the fuq dude. Been waiting all year for SLS but every year the judging gets worse

Omg so stoked for this. I've been waiting for months. Love SLS. made my night

Will say this is the best SLS course setup!

Felipe Mota is so good bro and he's only a kid 😢🔥

@dwightyawg7781

Жыл бұрын

P Rod is asleep

KEEP MALTO AS A COMMENTATOR!

Sora jyst got shafted. Not fair.

Nah but how is a bigspin hurricane on a rail that big a 7.8 wtf something’s wrong with those judges, a 9 club imo or at least an 8 come on

looks like they changed the criteria for 9 club tricks

@luongk88

Жыл бұрын

9 club judging criteria: Style Tech Speed Landing Is his name Nyjah

@dwightyawg7781

Жыл бұрын

@@luongk88 😆 I thought u were defending the judges at first

@luongk88

Жыл бұрын

@@dwightyawg7781 😂 Naw dawg

7.9 on Sora first run?!

30:22 Geoff comment really summarised what I thought about the judging in the first heat

Filipe Mota deserved waaaay better tbh

The course is incredible, original, streetish, without an obvious big rail for the best tricks

The judges are playing wrongs, 7.9 for the Felipe first trick? 7.8 for Sora? Well, something is wrong

I never ever bash the judges on these things, but heat 1 and 2 were scored super harsh compared to heat 3. Prods switch run with a bail was the only first run in heat 3 with a bail that deserved that score. Some favouritism going on there, maybe unintentional but definitely happened.

These judges messed up the first heat 100% big spin hurricane = less than 8??? :/

The judges messed up on the big spin hurricane

Wouldn’t be surprised if P-Rod came out as regular lol, way way way too good at switch

Put Malto and Mike Mo in there together with Paul as main stay commentators, that'd be so awesome

@Unanythang

Жыл бұрын

I think Mike mo is judging

@MickyThunderV

Жыл бұрын

@@Unanythang is he really?

thanks for putting sean on the mic!

STREAM THE FINALS ALREADY!!!🙄

@dwightyawg7781

Жыл бұрын

Nooo we must beg

@mike_zander

Жыл бұрын

for real. I already saw who won trying to search for the final :(. I thought this was supposed to stream live today.

Judges are holding these guys’ abilities against them. A lot of these guys are the only one that can do specific tricks & they’re getting 8’s

Come on judges 8.6 a suciu grind (yeah I really know thats a hard trick!) And 7.8 for a bigsping fs hurricane? Pfff Mota GOT ROBBED FOR SURE! Mota trick was minimum 8.2 or something like that but 7.8? Are you kidding me?

I'm 33 minutes in and this is by far the worst judging I've ever seen in any competition ever.

So sick you can watch it on KZread n don’t have to be there ! I was wanting to go so bad yesterday, hopefully today I can go 🔥

8.4 for a laserflip backlip?! Get the hell outta here, robbed

@KorruptedBeats

Жыл бұрын

For real dude

Where is the Final?

Thank you for this. You are really helping me a lot. My heart goes out to you brother!

I hope judges can also skate! Heart-breaking. 😢

@dwightyawg7781

Жыл бұрын

Worst part is most of em are pro or used to be

That kick to 5050 was quick even in slow mo

Seeing Pudwill’s lines, it looks like even I could participate in SLS lol

@user-px3ed7er3t

Жыл бұрын

You not lying 😂 bro said nice 1.3 it’s a score… it’s a score

@villiantwo

Жыл бұрын

yo i just posted the same. tory's awesome. but he's not ready to compete yet. his lines were very amateur.

@luongk88

Жыл бұрын

@@villiantwo ...compete yet? He's one of the OG SLS skaters

@ashleybrown4754

Жыл бұрын

Yup, and you can put out the video part he just put out too I bet

@followsuittrading

Жыл бұрын

I agree but his video part in bigger bang was probably the dopest video part I've seen all year so he can rest easy

Don’t know if these judges understand skateboarding. I low key feel like we don’t see Chaz Ortiz in SLS no more because of the judging.

@jasondashney

Жыл бұрын

Chaz was always underscored. I wonder if personal bias comes into play? But then explain Micky Papa because he's the nicest guy ever. SMH.

judges biffed this one

The audio on this is really good the skateboard sounds are so cool like a VX1000 video almost

Midler has finally been given enough space to place. Move Brah!

And now We can’t even watch our skateboarding contest. $19.99 kids.

Geoff Rowley, Paul Zitzer, and Chris Cole should just handle all the judging and scoring.

Loving the addition of random stats (like how long Foy spent locked into grinds last year)

come on! footnote the timestamps.

Braden got just such a perfect and consistant kickflip, which is the main reason he can flip into everything of course.

Where can i see the final?????

@Ayyylmaooooo411

Жыл бұрын

At DAZN for 20$

On a positive note, I have a lot of respect for Mota and any other skater who get screwed so hard because they remain calm and keep their wits about them and don’t make a big fuss about it… I would come completely unglued! Yelling and cussing, breaking my board and throwing the pieces of it in the direction of the judges, knocking over water coolers, and top it off with lying down somewhere on the course and refusing to move until they had to drag me away…

@redbillnye1899

Жыл бұрын

You got no friends

@certaindiaster59

Жыл бұрын

@@redbillnye1899 I haven’t had any friends since my mom stopped paying people to pretend they were my friends…

Why in hell were people getting the same score for falling off in third/fourth heat, compared to incredible "landing everything" runs in the first/second heat???? WTF

This is what happens when the judges are friends with half of the players. It needs to be like old school Olympics. Representatives from multiple countries and a legit scoring guideline. This is getting outtta hand. Your gonna lose your Olympic rights if it’s gets too bad. Rome could turn into a much bigger tour if they need it to.

I know we have all done it. Finally seeing doin especially a flip trick normal or into a grind. Seein it slow motion. I feel like Paul and Shane can see every tinny movement everytime. Zero hope. All 100 knowing. Also they play the pockets of a skateboard. Either way there insane

@allstopblue5717

Жыл бұрын

No idea what this means. Can’t tell if the comment is props or hate. Lol

@lukasboraski2729

Жыл бұрын

When im talkin about slow motion im referring to having a really good day skateboarding. Where things go perfect everything feels good. When im talkin about Prod im talking about his board control. Hes way more sure or aware whats gonna happen. His style shows it. When im saying playin the pockets there feet when they pop a trick is never at the end of the tail or nose

Where to watch the real finals? any idea?

Dude come on this judge in the first heat is so unlogical how are you giving big spin hurricane a 7.8?!! Disgraceful

Wow the judging was so inconsistent and so bad #embarrassing

So glad SLS is back. Did anyone else get a bunch of ads?

i think the judges underscored many tricks

Where are the Finals? Think it's not available for some countries on YT. I'm from Portugal