2022 Skoda Kamiq review - the best small SUV? | What Car?

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  • @eddieallen6401
    @eddieallen64012 жыл бұрын

    What I like about these reviews is you’re not trying to impress your personality on your viewers unlike another popular online car reviewer I could mention.

  • @renardargent6487

    @renardargent6487

    2 ай бұрын

    I reckon I know who your referring to. I gave up on him months ago :/

  • @NeutronStream
    @NeutronStream2 жыл бұрын

    Having checked out the car in the showroom, this is a great review. Considering the size of the vehicle, it is surprisingly practical and spacious.

  • @jimviv6030
    @jimviv60302 жыл бұрын

    I get 54mpg on long motorway trips, and never feel the need for any more power (mine's the 115hp). Great car.

  • @user-gw5rs7fp9j
    @user-gw5rs7fp9j2 жыл бұрын

    I like the way you treat your review cars with respect, unlike other wow reviews slamming things, scratching things and always having to do 0-60 which in reality life doesn’t happen as we know…keep up the great work. 👍🏻🙏🏻☺️

  • @jasonyu6649

    @jasonyu6649

    2 жыл бұрын

    That channel sometimes is over dramatised. I think scratching things aren’t that much a problem.

  • @user-gw5rs7fp9j

    @user-gw5rs7fp9j

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasonyu6649 Kia Ora Jason, maybe if it’s our own things, but others cars & things people have worked hard for shows their disrespect & selfishness. Sad. 😢

  • @amitgore
    @amitgore2 жыл бұрын

    sir, in addition to your review. Mentioning prices for upgrades was very useful.

  • @keithisaacs6092
    @keithisaacs60922 жыл бұрын

    No badge snobbery on What Car unlike that lot on Carbuyer brilliant reviews.

  • @Guvb235
    @Guvb2352 жыл бұрын

    I really like my Kamiq and its overall talent surprised me - especially with how meh a lot of other small SUVs are. It's also far better than both the T-Cross and T-Roc for quality.

  • @mustafamalik4122

    @mustafamalik4122

    Жыл бұрын

    Is the space enough to fit a pram in the boot?

  • @nanciag

    @nanciag

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Alistair89
    @Alistair892 жыл бұрын

    Finally the first reviewer that has said the 1.0 95 is all you need. We were pondering which engine to get but opted for the 1.0 95 5 speed in SE trim. The first 1,000 miles while it was running in the engine was a bit lumpy below 2,000rpm but now everything is freed up I can honestly say why you would ever need more than 95bhp in a Kamiq, it pulls great, the 5 gears are spaced perfectly for the torque and power band and the suspension is not suited for the car to be hooned around. We got a great deal on our car at £16,867 (had to wait 6 months) but I often have a smug look on my face at other Kamiq owners who have thrown money at their Kamiq when it's really not required.

  • @itfc88

    @itfc88

    Жыл бұрын

    My only issue is the god awful gearbox with the 95

  • @brythonicman3267

    @brythonicman3267

    Жыл бұрын

    I suppose it depends what performance you're used to! For myself and many others I prefer being able to overtake quickly which is safer, if you're happy to lag behind a slow moving vehicle in front of you when there are few chances to overtake fine but many including myself don't. Your car 0 to 60 takes a leisurely 10.7 seconds bhp 94 and torque only 129 lbs. The 1.5 TSI takes 7.7 seconds with bhp156 and torque 184lbs. For the small amount of extra money, I'd have at the very least gone for the 1.0 litre 108bhp.

  • @megapangolin1093
    @megapangolin10932 жыл бұрын

    Great, interesting well presented video. Thank you.

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep612 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed watching the Video Review 😄. The Kamiq Is already on sale In the UK

  • @harryblinkhorn2792
    @harryblinkhorn27922 жыл бұрын

    Will look at one when I come to change my car next year

  • @KC-kx5uz
    @KC-kx5uz2 жыл бұрын

    Did you do the ice scraper catch in one take? :D

  • @daz7171
    @daz7171 Жыл бұрын

    I had one as as a hire car when I had an accident and I was genuinely shocked how quick this was for a 1 litre

  • @alistairvenning7329
    @alistairvenning73292 жыл бұрын

    Looking into one to replace my fiesta,its a toss up between the puma and this,I can get one with nearly the same spec as the puma for between £2000 and £3000 less

  • @NedNew
    @NedNew2 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it long overdue that What Car should use Newton-Metres for torque? I have no idea what the lb-ft values mean.

  • @56Gumball

    @56Gumball

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @renardargent6487

    @renardargent6487

    2 ай бұрын

    Also, add KW for us Metric folks when talking/printing bhp. Frustrating having to find a conversion app

  • @photoholohan
    @photoholohan2 жыл бұрын

    Great review! I've had my Monte Carlo for a couple of months now, and I can vouch for the strength of the mid-range 1.0 115 engine. It's strong, smooth and *incredibly* quiet... This trim comes with the digital dials/display as standard, but I do wish that I'd added the variable boot floor, winter pack and a reversing camera - just as this review suggests. They'd have just completed the package. 👌🏼

  • @michelmoget7276

    @michelmoget7276

    Жыл бұрын

    Un bp

  • @herjenderlally4795
    @herjenderlally47952 жыл бұрын

    Question... Would a person who is 6 ft 4 be able to sit in the front seats.

  • @Ambienfinity
    @Ambienfinity2 жыл бұрын

    I had been considering the Scala as a replacement for my old Honda Jazz, but wanted the slightly higher stance of a small SUV, this certainly is a candidate.

  • @Stevieboy130664

    @Stevieboy130664

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is a bit higher than the Scala and preferable to me than the very tall SUVs. The Scala has a bigger boot with the seats up though.

  • @NeutronStream

    @NeutronStream

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should book a test drive. I drove the Karoq a couple weeks ago and that was impressive. But whilst at the dealership we saw this Kamiq and was very surprised. You get a very practical and spacious car considering the size.

  • @Ambienfinity

    @Ambienfinity

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NeutronStream It does look roomy. I have need to transport old people in comfort, so it's on the list.

  • @NeutronStream

    @NeutronStream

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ambienfinity it would be great for old people. The rear seats are higher and are more like a chair than a sofa, so it's easier to sit down and get back up. Less effort to get in and out. Also, the doors open very wide which again is ideal.

  • @Ambienfinity

    @Ambienfinity

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NeutronStream Ideal, I'll be having a look at one soon - thanks.

  • @subratsethi7438
    @subratsethi74382 жыл бұрын

    Is its available in Canada ontario....,or In INDIA

  • @marcpacey
    @marcpacey2 жыл бұрын

    We love ours ( we got one of the first in Australia) and it’s a near perfect car ( a minor exception being a lane keeping assistant being too sensitive) . Skoda is (IMO) such an underrated manufacturer. Skoda is unfortunately not very well known here - which is a real shame . Our Kamiq is quiet, economical and surprisingly fast. Compared to the VW T-Cross the Kamiq with the same specification the Skoda is significantly cheaper. Great informative review.

  • @MareeJaeger

    @MareeJaeger

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you dealt with the dealership for servicing? What is their after care like? (in Aus also)

  • @marcpacey

    @marcpacey

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MareeJaeger so far , having one service done and a minor warranty matter completed, we have no complaints. Dealer sorted all items out and back behind the wheel same day.

  • @MareeJaeger

    @MareeJaeger

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marcpacey thanks so much for taking time to reply good to hear!

  • @brythonicman3267

    @brythonicman3267

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm in the UK and just ordered a Kamiq 1,5 SE Drive dsg and I don't like the lane keeping assist on any car, but the salesman told me you can switch it off.

  • @brythonicman3267
    @brythonicman3267 Жыл бұрын

    Just ordered the Kamiq 1.5 SE Drive dsg in metallic grey, loved the car on the test drive it felt so refined, downside is that I have to wait 52 weeks for delivery (manual is just 10 weeks), nevertheless in my opinion its better than the VW and SEAT equivalent by a wide margin, so worth the wait.

  • @khelgarironfist3301

    @khelgarironfist3301

    Жыл бұрын

    52 weeks? What the hell

  • @Stevieboy130664
    @Stevieboy1306642 жыл бұрын

    I am leasing one with the more powerful one litre engine and the only option is the adjustable boot floor - neat and simple and should be standard. 10000 miles at £201 a month over three years and I like the basic blue colour. Practical, economical, comfortable and a decent drive - objectively a great car to own. Wish they did a mild hybrid version like the Puma which was another car I was looking at but was just too expensive.

  • @Stevieboy130664

    @Stevieboy130664

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Too Legit To Quit comfortable enough that I have never really noticed (generally a good sign).

  • @eckie4679
    @eckie46792 жыл бұрын

    Just over a year owning a 1.5 SEL DSG. I like everything about it except the seats. Too low as he mentioned and not particularly comfortable. The centre bulkhead digs into my left leg most of the time. And I really miss the variflex rear seats that my Yeti had. The Yeti was a lot more “clever” in its use of space in a car with similar overall dimensions to the Kamiq. I’ll be getting a Karoq next time

  • @MOSSFEEN

    @MOSSFEEN

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Karoq replaced the mighty Yeti not this yolk

  • @eckie4679

    @eckie4679

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MOSSFEEN yes but the Karoq is significantly bigger than the Yeti and that was key factor I took into account when I chose the Kamiq. During lockdown there were fantastic deals on the VW T-Roc and I nearly bought an R model. The £1400 annual road tax put me off ultimately Overall I’m pleased with the Kamiq but it just doesn’t have the Yeti mojo

  • @cmartin_ok
    @cmartin_ok2 жыл бұрын

    My 1985 Honda Civic had an under-seat storage tray as standard, my parents' 1990-something Volvo had a parking ticket clip in the windscreen, so neither of those features on this car is particularly "clever". Why can't the heated windscreen be ordered on its own instead of only with the £700 climate pack? Ford fit them as standard to almost all of their cars, and it is a vital safety feature in autumn/winter for UK cars

  • @n0cturn2l
    @n0cturn2l2 жыл бұрын

    I have seen some reviews of this car and you were the one who said what I was thinking, this is not a SUV it’s a normal sized family car, I do r know why the brand names this model as a SUV but ok…

  • @jonathanmellish4439
    @jonathanmellish44392 жыл бұрын

    Skoda does it again with those extra little touches. A fold out funnel makes much sense. I have an older Octavia 1.4 and it’s a great car. Regular 50 plus mpg and 60’s on the motorway. I may buy one of these next.

  • @Martin_Pritula

    @Martin_Pritula

    2 жыл бұрын

    there will likely be a facelift for this one soon, given the release date and it’s massive popularity :D

  • @KingDomsKingdom85

    @KingDomsKingdom85

    Жыл бұрын

    Skoda nowadays are a brilliant manufacturer of cars, their reputation many decades ago wasn't the best in the UK... but now they're outstanding.

  • @MrDan957
    @MrDan9578 ай бұрын

    Is there a diesel option ?

  • @jonathanhartmann4496
    @jonathanhartmann44962 жыл бұрын

    9:55 smooth af

  • @LelouchLamperouge235
    @LelouchLamperouge2352 жыл бұрын

    Got one ordered in a pretty good trim with the 1,5L TSI engine :D And in the color that became avaiable when Fabia 4th gen entered the market- Phoenix Orange. Its a brand new option for Kamiq, only available for cars made after 40th week of 2021 I think .. Not sure about UK though.

  • @jaydee7969

    @jaydee7969

    Жыл бұрын

    How is the 1.5 engine?

  • @LelouchLamperouge235

    @LelouchLamperouge235

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaydee7969 it's good . Real fuel consumption around 8L / 100km in the city if you drive carefully, 10 is normal and 12+ if you wanna accelerate hard and on short trips with cold engine. I can do 5L/100km at the freeway if I go really slow with engine running mostly on 2 cylinders but around 6 is normal. Anyway 4cyl is refreshing in this age of 1L 3cyl. The best thing about this engine compared to 3cyl is it's basically almost impossible to under rev ..it pulls from very low rpm and you can't hear the engine under revving ..

  • @jaydee7969

    @jaydee7969

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LelouchLamperouge235 thanks! Appreciate the reply.

  • @199eddy
    @199eddy Жыл бұрын

    Reviewing an se 110 kamiq but has extras on it which no1 will get like the big screen etc. If you want them extras jus get the SEL.

  • @martinwilkinson2344
    @martinwilkinson23449 ай бұрын

    Never understood the obsession with SUVs. That said, I hired one of these for a week and was very impressed. Lane keeping assist is intensely annoying but no worse than others I've experienced (SEAT).

  • @richardthomas7350
    @richardthomas735011 ай бұрын

    The only problem with the Kamiq is the Scala. If you dont get the high driving position of an SUV why not just buy the hatchback version which even has a slightly bigger boot.

  • @oliverstemp9132
    @oliverstemp91322 жыл бұрын

    The Kamiq is probably the best of VW groups Small SUVs, other than the Taigo

  • @itfc88
    @itfc88 Жыл бұрын

    Hate the fact they fitted the 95 with five speed gearbox clearly to stop people buying it

  • @user-pd4bf4th2l
    @user-pd4bf4th2l2 жыл бұрын

    Happy Onam...🕺

  • @cptobvious8428
    @cptobvious8428 Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately the local SKODA dealer jacked prices up by 50% throughout its range, decreased engine sizes and removed features in the last year to take advantage of Australians during the covid shortages. There are a number of nicer small SUVs for better prices. Too bad greed will destroy what was a decent niece brand

  • @minimalman9202

    @minimalman9202

    7 ай бұрын

    What other better alternatives do you know?

  • @zuti071
    @zuti0712 жыл бұрын

    Something is wrong and apsurd with those prices in UK. Kamiq starts at 13500 euros ( about 11000 pounds) in many countries in EU. Is there some new tax for pruducts since you leave EU or dealers have extreme markups on new cars !?

  • @shroomyesc

    @shroomyesc

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, it's not that. In a lot of the EU Kamiq starts at closer to 20000€, here in Finland for example it starts at 21500€ for the base level Active trim.

  • @zuti071

    @zuti071

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shroomyesc Omg. That's 50% more expensive !!! For that kind of money you should be able to buy Karoq 1.5TSI with Style equipment. Even base pre-facelift 1.5 Tsi Kodiak (active trim) was 22.500 until recently and fully loaded 2.0TDI 200HP 4x4 DSG for 34.500. There can be only 2 reasons for such a huge gap. 1 Import taxes and 2 dealer markups.

  • @shroomyesc

    @shroomyesc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zuti071 Not necessarily import taxes as much as high cost of living in general and car taxes based on emissions. VW Touareg starts at 100k for example. Luxury motorhome is 70k though, haha. 34500€ is fully spec Scala territory here for Skodas

  • @MRKG583
    @MRKG583 Жыл бұрын

    id say 7s is better for a 4 family 😊

  • @minniesaab7255
    @minniesaab72552 жыл бұрын

    👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @MrBreakingBud
    @MrBreakingBud2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, the VAG infotainement system is full of bugs

  • @blackcrackmanace

    @blackcrackmanace

    2 жыл бұрын

    new ones in 2020 are, this one isn't

  • @Alistair89

    @Alistair89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blackcrackmanace agreed my 2021 is faultless and lightning quick

  • @DaveDVideoMaker
    @DaveDVideoMaker2 жыл бұрын

    There’s a different Kamiq in China.

  • @graemewhitehead6233
    @graemewhitehead62332 жыл бұрын

    The price looks good on paper, but everything is an extra - when spec’d like for like with one if it’s rivals you don’t end up saving much or anything

  • @NeutronStream

    @NeutronStream

    2 жыл бұрын

    But you can spec it with exactly what you want/need. You won't have to pay for features you rarely/never use. This way works out better value.

  • @akhiln997

    @akhiln997

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NeutronStream But I feel most of the time even the basic features are added optional extra like heated seats ,heated windscreen

  • @shroomyesc

    @shroomyesc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@akhiln997 That's true, although market dependant. The UK for example doesn't get very cold in the winter so heated seats aren't a necessity as much as for example here in Finland where heated seats have been standard in even budget cars for decades. But I get what you mean, I appreciate it because it means I could get just active cruise without having to pay for an expensive bundle with annoying features like lane keep as with most brands.

  • @nanciag

    @nanciag

    2 ай бұрын

    I bought the first 2021 Limited edition, and everything was included including free 5 year servicing.

  • @xeniakipourou1800
    @xeniakipourou1800 Жыл бұрын

  • @cnxexpat1862
    @cnxexpat18622 жыл бұрын

    No high driving position and no digital driver display makes this car a no-go for me.

  • @MrPiwi91

    @MrPiwi91

    2 жыл бұрын

    The car you see in the video does not seem to be well equipped as a digital driver display can be specced with the Kamiq

  • @hectorheath9742
    @hectorheath97422 жыл бұрын

    £21,000 for an ice scraper and a brolly !! Where do I sign??

  • @Alistair89

    @Alistair89

    2 жыл бұрын

    £21,000 if you're a mug. Deals can be found if you look hard enough

  • @williamcapnerhurst2867
    @williamcapnerhurst28672 жыл бұрын

    Very re iew I see ov yours says its the best god sake puma was best suv last video wot was made after this video

  • @ukcarver
    @ukcarver2 жыл бұрын

    My wife has just got rid of her Kamiq, the heating controls on the large screen is dangerous as you have to take your eyes off the road and far too complicated. Big disappointment.

  • @vernepavreal7296
    @vernepavreal72962 жыл бұрын

    I do wish you had mentioned in the header or early in the video that this is a fossil not interested in fossils any more cheers

  • @saintetienne755
    @saintetienne7552 жыл бұрын

    This is *not* an SUV - I've seen one and it's no bigger than a medium sized estate car just slightly taller. You're going to get a shock at how small it is.

  • @NeutronStream

    @NeutronStream

    2 жыл бұрын

    Kamiq is a Crossover. Don't know why UK reviewers don't ever call a crossover a crossover. Considering the size and footprint, Kamiq is very spacious and practical.

  • @shroomyesc

    @shroomyesc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NeutronStream Crossover here is a pointless marketing term when SUV already exists, I've understood that in north America "SUV" usually refers to awd body on frame stuff so separating "crossovers" from them makes sense, but I've heard on this side of the atlantic those would be called offroaders instead (depending on country, some may use jeep or a local term) so SUV applies more to anything with some cladding, boxy dimensions and a high riding position.

  • @CorryOrens-px5cu
    @CorryOrens-px5cu Жыл бұрын

    U

  • @bobyouel7674
    @bobyouel76745 ай бұрын

    shouldn't mention mobile phone

  • @bobyouel7674
    @bobyouel76745 ай бұрын

    no spare wheel real problem

  • @nanciag

    @nanciag

    2 ай бұрын

    Mine has one!

  • @michaelkay3197
    @michaelkay31972 жыл бұрын

    You state that the boot size at 400 litres is the largest in the class bar the rather ugly Puma. Wrong. The Nissan Juke has 422 litres. Indeed I've noticed that despite giving the new Juke a good review, What Car (and all the other car magazine reviewers) remains biased in favour of German cars (and their derivatives like this Skoda) no matter what. You push the rivals to this as being the Puma and the T-Roc only mentioning the Juke at the start of the review then conveniently ignoring it thereafter. So you can also conclude by saying that the Skoda has the nicest interior, again ignoring the fact that the Juke's interior is much more premium. I have no links to Nissan, but it remains a British car designed and built in Britain which like many others is pushed aside by the German brigade at every opportunity in your reviews. This Skoda isn't even new and you seem to justify reviewing it again (it's not a new model after all) just because the infotainment system has had a mild upgrade - something which ought to be a downloadable option on the previous models but probably isn't. I'm guessing there. Love the bit where you catch the ice scrapper though. Now how about giving the British motor industry a little boost next ehh?

  • @Alistair89

    @Alistair89

    2 жыл бұрын

    British motor industry, hahahaha! Don't make me laugh, if you saw the knackers working at the Nissan factory you wouldn't touch one, plus the Nissan 'joke' is full of cheap plastic and there is a certain sterotype that precedes them. Kamiq is a far superior car in every single way

  • @michaelkay3197

    @michaelkay3197

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Alistair89 And you would know that because ................ the Skoda is full of cheap plastic and even What Car think the Juke is more premium, which it is. Go on then, name 5 ways the Skoda is better that aren't just your opinion - it is lower down (like a hatchback), has less equipment, smaller boot, boring styling, cheap stereo, etc, etc.

  • @Alistair89

    @Alistair89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelkay3197 go on then, look at you all pretentious. I have loads of friends who work there and can verify this. They all drive Nissan's not because they want to but get them through the scheme at work. They are full of cheap plastics and are not pleasing on the eye. Does that satisfy you flower?

  • @michaelkay3197

    @michaelkay3197

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Alistair89 as expected, you haven't named one way in which the Skoda is better - can't think of any I assume? There is nothing pretentious about my comment and you don't need to be insulting or patronising if you have fair comments to make - just make a case for it. I won't respond further.

  • @Alistair89

    @Alistair89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelkay3197 no I just cannot be bothered to entertain a response. Now tune into radio 4 I think the archers is about to start.

  • @maurogiovanni5978
    @maurogiovanni59782 жыл бұрын

    When are people going to stop pointing out the basic simply clever features?

  • @Stevieboy130664

    @Stevieboy130664

    2 жыл бұрын

    They would be worth talking about if they were all standard.

  • @shroomyesc

    @shroomyesc

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's not much between cars nowadays, almost all cars are pretty good so they have to point out the tiniest differences.

  • @LelouchLamperouge235

    @LelouchLamperouge235

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unless the car is independently sourced probably never. Škoda issues talking points for reviewers. I am pretty sure that if the advertising department feels that a reviewer is consistently omitting a lot of those talking points, they wont get access to the next press cars.

  • @amzing_shorts
    @amzing_shorts2 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't seem like a SUV.

  • @deebee3666
    @deebee36662 жыл бұрын

    CRAPPY HANDBRAKE AND ITS STILL A SAD SKODA

  • @handlesarefeckinstupid
    @handlesarefeckinstupid Жыл бұрын

    Completely missed the Pug 2008 in this line up then? Mokka? Pug has a bigger boot as well.

  • @aaaaplay
    @aaaaplay2 жыл бұрын

    What a weird specification on test. Awful (optional) alloys, manual gearbox, manual air conditioning and top spec Columbus Infotainment. In Australia, our base 85TSI Kamiq comes standard with active cockpit, electric tail gate, DSG, auto climate control, rear parking sensors, reverse camera, mid-tear infotainment and 18" alloys for the equivalent of 15,000 ($28,000) including taxes. The UK clearly got screwed. I love my top-spec Monte Carlo, I would recommend it to anyone. But I can understand how people wouldn't find the Kamiq visually appealing when specified like this.

  • @LelouchLamperouge235

    @LelouchLamperouge235

    2 жыл бұрын

    Columbus is not available for Kamiq. 6,5 inch = Swing, 8 inch = Bolero and 9,2 inch = Amundsen .

  • @brythonicman3267

    @brythonicman3267

    Жыл бұрын

    Strange, the Australian Skoda website states that the entry level Kamiq comes in at A$38,000 and doesn't have the Columbus infortainment system! Maybe the price has gone up $10,000 since you posted it last year 🤔

  • @bikeman123

    @bikeman123

    Жыл бұрын

    "UK got screwed" nothing new there. Unfortunately UK buyers keep buying so they continue to be exploited.

  • @bowlingaz

    @bowlingaz

    9 ай бұрын

    @@brythonicman3267 Cars have shot up recently! Very few now available for 30k (15k sterling) driveaway that aren't Chinese tat sadly.

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