You need the lights there because of DOT laws. If the trunk is open, the lights on the trunk aren't visible so you need some sort of red light always visible on the rear of the car. Just like pickups and tailgates

@Tig-Wan

2 жыл бұрын

Not in the USA.

@Tig-Wan

2 жыл бұрын

Only in countries that require it

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

Makes sense!

@ColeSpolaric

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say just that

@The_Cyberz

2 жыл бұрын

Who drives with the trunk open? Another example of dumb laws for dumb people.

I used to work as a quality inspector in the paint department for Toyota and it really opened my eyes to the complexity of paint. To control a near perfect environment is almost impossible but one of the steps we took was to crater test. That's when everyone touches their face with their hands then smears their hand onto a panel and then the panel gets painted. If you are "contaminated" craters would immediately appear. To keep this from happening we were not allowed to use certain shampoos, conditioners, deodorant, etc. Even with all these precautionary measures, problems always arise so it's not uncommon to have "abnormal work" where a vehicle may have to be repaired (seeds, orange peel, scratches, thin paint, runs, sags, etc). Like others have said, even when a vehicle leaves the paint shop, there's a whole other set of variables during assembly: team members dropping tools on the side members, outside auditors being careless and coming too close to a vehicle with non-line approved clothing, or someone with contaminated gloves touching interior parts and not realizing, etc. Every vehicle may not be perfect, but I can tell you, everyday we are trying our best to identify, resolve, and prevent these abnormalities from happening. It's a never ending battle.

@lehelzelenka207

2 жыл бұрын

Well if you buy a $30k Toyota, you would be ok with some flaws. When you pay 140k? You probably want the best of everything! When you pay 140k for a brand that just made it's first car(model), you are crazy.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

Mock me if you must, for being a VW Phaeton enthusiast. But part of the pride and joy of owning one (two in my case), is the flawless fit-finish-paint that comes from having been mostly hand-made in the "glass factory" and I expect Lucid to equal that, given the price point. My '04 W12 was $140K new, adjusted for inflation. 70K miles, pristine 4-seat limo, not for sale lol.

@isnogodc

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you alot, now i know why painting a wooden panel didnt work. After I grinded the primer, I touched the surface with my hands.

@trumptookthevaccine1679

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericjbowman1708 that car didn’t sell

@MarcoB838

2 жыл бұрын

@@lehelzelenka207 Money does not say everything about what it is worth. For some people 30K is a load of money and for some 140k is pocket money. A new car just has to be 100% for the customer. That can mean it is not 100% for those detailing "nerds"' that simply see more than the average person

I work at an American auto assembly plant for one of the “big 3”. I’m in the quality department. So much can happen to a vehicle before it leaves the plant. The abuse it can receive. The neglect it can receive. The lack of care given to a vehicle is astounding. Nobody thinks of the vehicle as a customers vehicle. We deal with so many they just become another obstacle in the way to take a “break”. EVERY single vehicle has some sort of defect or flaw that is delivered to the customer. All of them.

@M.sami12

2 жыл бұрын

All of them? Don't you think it's a bit exaggerated? I mean maybe most of them but not all of them

@Matt-fd9hc

2 жыл бұрын

@@M.sami12 ok I shouldn’t make such a blanket statement for the whole industry. In my plant yes, I could find a paint, torque, figment defect on every single vehicle, easily.

@Angelo80907

2 жыл бұрын

I like how people think of cars as masterpieces when in reality like you said I’m sure to you is just another welded piece of frame moving in the production line. There is no such thing as perfect specially when it come to cars.

@Clazi

2 жыл бұрын

Now, I think the same can't be true for "handmade" car brands such as Bugatti, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc. But then I have to wonder... If this would be the case for Porsche (Basically the only one of the supercar brands that utilizes factory production line). Just wondering cause I've had my new Porsche for 2 months now and the only flaw I ever found was oily streak mark on the handle of the glove box. Other than that, it came as a masterpiece. Exactly as I have ordered.

@Angelo80907

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clazi congrats on the new Porsche! Every time I see one I just can’t help but stare at the massive wheels along with the massive brake calipers 🤤 any new Porsche is a true masterpiece can’t say the same about the big 3 American car makers. I’ve owned BMW’s all my life so there’s definitely this level expectations in material quality that American cars will never have.

if I paid $140k for this and saw all these build quality issues on the outside I would be pretty displeased to say the least. I'm mad when I buy something for $20 and it has imperfections 🤣. great video!

@epark5687

2 жыл бұрын

So pretty much all Tesla Model S owners

@lehelzelenka207

2 жыл бұрын

And you would be totally right to be displeased. That window trim will eventually fly off at high speed!

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

The flawed fit and finish is disturbing. I really want a Lucid Air to replace my W12 Phaeton, but I'll wait for the 2nd model year, as with any new model from any manufacturer.

@DJaquithFL

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO .. You would go insane if you ever owned a Tesla. Tesla's QC is much worse than a Lucid even today.

@philliptemple4534

2 жыл бұрын

@@DJaquithFL You need to qualify with "from the Fremont plant". Every other Gigafactory the finishing is impeccable. Once Texas ramps up, maybe they can upgrade the Fremont plant so Americans can enjoy the incredible Tesla that the rest of the world enjoys. Phillip.

I like these new car deep dives. I'm surprised more people don't do it. Very cool.

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

We will do more!

@kScripting

2 жыл бұрын

Not everyone can work with these brand new cars for free :)

@mrhaftbar

2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this format. More!

For 140k, this build quality is atrocious. Hopefully the repaint was disclosed, because if not, there should be hell to follow. Lol Thanks for making these vids that allow us to make more informed buying decisions. You guys are the real MVP’s

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

It was NOT disclosed.

@ccron889_

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChicagoAutoPros “Lucy, you got some splainin’ to do” lol

@XX-166

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a cousin of Tesla with fit and finish problems.

@carolesykes7802

2 жыл бұрын

That door trim that is loose is not the same door trim as on a Lucid. Something isn't adding up....

@geraintroberts7569

2 жыл бұрын

If you buy a imported car into the USA, lets say a BMW and it got damaged on the way over on the ship or at dock side in the US it will be fixed buy BMW and they don't have to disclose it.

Unfortunately for such a young company, there will be fit and finish issues. Just as Jason noticed, I saw the same thing on a display model in a Virginia mall. The inside is almost perfect; very beautiful and expensive-feeling materials. The exterior was not perfect, but good enough for a brand new car company. Their target customers understand this, have deep pockets, and are willing to be 1st buyers of low-volume-high-cost luxury cars. They are basically subsidizing development of cheaper versions ($50-80K) of these cars in about 5-10 years. Their EV tech is impressive, especially the electric motor unit. Very small and powerful. Plus it goes for 500+ miles. I am more interested in their SUV, Project Gravity. Hoping to buy it in about 8-10 years.

@isserdigan2835

2 жыл бұрын

Same boat. I am interested in one. Might get it in 2026 when its all squared away and more 350 Kw charging station is available.

@vr4966

2 жыл бұрын

Young company? take a look at the Company Leadership portfolio, there is absolutely no excuse to release subpar product in this day and age.

@isserdigan2835

2 жыл бұрын

@@vr4966 there is what they call Supply chain issues duh. China is locked out. There is a war in Ukraine. We have an idiot for a President.

@TEXAS2459

2 жыл бұрын

Ppl frm tesla and jaguar? And u call it young? Ok

@DKK

2 жыл бұрын

Good enough lol, or buy a car from a real company.

In California, by law, unless more than 50% of the car has been repainted it does not have to be disclosed. The amount of paint done at port facilities is shocking.

@OneManOnFire

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in California and any repairs over $2000 must be disclosed.

@legion1791

2 жыл бұрын

The law don't have to cover everything. This would simply make sense to informe the customer

@tidakadaide

2 жыл бұрын

I worked in a port facility 10yrs ago. I have seen cars with the front ripped off them by truck repaired and sold as new vehicles....not good.

@tubedejay

2 жыл бұрын

when the cars are transported in perforated railcars and folks tag up on those perforated railcars, well.....

Love these new car inspection videos. "ItS a NeW cAr, Im NoT pAyInG tO cOrReCt NeW pAiNt"

I would be livid if I paid 140K for that car and the panels have been repainted already.

I work at Toyota and repainting is a common and encouraged practice. If there's a defect on a bumper and we've sanded through the clearcoat its more environmentally friendly and cost effective to send it into the paint booth again and reuse it. There's nothing out of the ordinary with this vehicle having repainted sections, especially on the body. A manufacturer isn't going to scrap an entire vehicle shell because of a small paint zone.

I like the big open tailgate. Looks like an Antonov 225 (r.i.p.) while loading cargo. In Europe we had a Vauxhall/Opel Insignia Tourer with the same big open tailgate. That one had a full rear light set within the boot/trunk as well. I believe the Insignia was sold in the State as a Buick but I'm not sure if you got the Tourer as well. Excellent analysis on the Lucid. Just heads up, the weird looking window trims are also on the new 7 Series / i7. Look at the Window trim on the rear doors and you'll see it. They used to do it on the 6 Series Gran Coupe / Alpina B6 Gran Coupe as well.

I’m an engineer for this company. If you saw how it was run youd understand why this car has is problems 😅 haven’t seen your Tesla video yet but I was also an engineer for Tesla and in an effort to get cars out at competitive market speed there were so many short cuts that were taken. Same issues are relevant for Lucid as well. Quicker we can get designs/products out the more money is made and satisfies investors.

@salimakai1414

2 жыл бұрын

Very funny. You are Engineer for Lucid and for Tesla. Lucid was delivering a few hundred units of cars while Tesla delivering a significantly higher number of over 500,000 cars in 4 different models within the same amount of time. If only Lucid had not released too much 'big mouth' BSs, people might have sympathized with these shortcomings.

@Euro2024champs

2 жыл бұрын

@@salimakai1414 try reading it again. He WAS an engineer for Tesla. Teslas are well known to have build quality and reliability issues.

@salimakai1414

2 жыл бұрын

@@Euro2024champs Of course, I knew that he used to work for Tesla. My point was that Lucid had told people that they would NOT have the 'Production Issues' and instead Lucid would have 'Production Heaven' only. But now, after their repeated failures to fulfill their little promises, Lucid claimed that they are only new company which they are not and consequently they faced with the production issues that led to failure to deliver 520 EVs at the end of 2021.

@bluetoad2668

2 жыл бұрын

@@Euro2024champs not seeing much evidence for reliability issues from Tesla. Also not hearing much build quality stuff anymore in fact. seeing a lot of cars on the road though so something's being done right.

@bluetoad2668

2 жыл бұрын

they aren't really pleasing investors though are they? even Ford sold some off.

Hey Jason awesome video, I was dying laughing when you said you felt like a crime scene investigator 🤣 ,I totally get that cuz I work in a collision center and it's crazy to see vehicles come in with work of other body shops, color matching, gaps, tape line edges like the one you showed, etc, it's wild that a lot of the general public is unaware of what happens to their vehicles but I'm so happy your bringing that to your audiences attention ,anyway that was so fun ,thoroughly enjoyed, awesome as always👍

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers brother! Could start another business. “New car investigation”

@daveblankenship4268

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChicagoAutoPros hahaha 🤣 hell yeah that would be hilarious, keep up the awesome work Jason always look forward to your future content

It’s satisfying watching you pick that car apart:) I love when customer think just Becuase it’s new it should be flawless paint job. Love the content guys!

Have not watched y'all in a while... however: NEVER A Disappointment! Still an absolute pleasure, and learned experience! You are the pros! The best! I am glad that there still are concerned anal ysts such as yourselves who would let your client know ( I certainly would want to know!!!, if I was the purchaser of this vehicle ) about possible damage/repaint. Keep on Trucking! J

US requires brake lights to be visible and functional when the trunk is open. It’s why the rear taillights are split into 2 different sections even on trucks with a tailgate, you have to be able to see the brakes when the tailgate is down or trunk is open on a car. That car has a solid light bar so it’s no surprise. Audi does this on some of their models as well, there are lights built into the bumper that will function as brake lights if the tailgate on the SUV is up when driving.

It doesn´t feel like a $140.000 build tbh. All the loose parts, plastic, and the sound from the door when you close it. I would expect much more from a car that expensive.

@siddharthgoyal4008

2 жыл бұрын

@@jalopy2472 EQS is nowhere close to this in terms of performance, styling etc. It's a niche product meant as a 3-4th novelty car for a person who will sell it in 2-3 years. I mean, essentially you are getting Ferrari beating performance at cheap

Love that deep red color! But yeah, they'd better step their paint and trim game up...

Just seeing your channel more recently. The shop is very meticulous. The amount of time you spend on a vehicle is impressive! Great work.

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel my friend.

Great job Jason! I agree totally with your statement: "A new car is not always like new." I can say from experience that having a detailer's eye didn't earn me any favors when I purchased my last vehicle...I had turned down the first 3 models I looked at due to repainted panels and unexplained clues. My sales rep claimed I was being "too critical" of the cars..LOL. He mentioned that the Carfax was clean on those models, and I laughed at that. When push came to shove, the paint dept. stated they don't have to reveal any paintwork they do on a new car below a certain cost to perform....how nice. I went to another dealership and found a used beauty...I told them not to doll it up, and I detailed it myself to perfection. thanks Jason

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, 3 repainted cars in a row!?

Building cars is very hard - that it’s done so many times a day is testament to ingenuity, but early cars even from an established manufacturer can have many flaws. Also the opportunities for damage are big - I’ve even seen cars tag the transporter during loading or get whacked at a dealership. Visible lights with boot open are required in some areas of Europe I believe

First time here, you now have a new subscriber. Super fascinating video. Look forward to going through your other uploads. Thumbs up for me. Cheers!

Very informative. One lesson I learnt from your video is that no matter how expensive or premium a new brand is, there is no match for an experienced manufacturer. Not to mention a story behind a decades-old brand. I would never spend $140K on a brand which doesn't have experience in building quality, Tesla included. These young manufacturers cannot match the quality and class of decades-old experience of manufacturers like BMW, Mercedes, or Japanese manufacturers etc.

Would love to see an update when you have it! 🙏Like did y'all end up doing the work or did cust take it back? It definitely seems like a cool car but a bit overpriced

I honestly think it's a gorgeous car. Typically don't really care much for electric cars and their styling, but this is really attractive in my eyes. Wonderful spec as well! Shame it's got those issues..

I have a crazy eye for detail so I approve of you methods. I vibe with your content.

I love how detailed you are. I wish I were near you, would definitely use your shop.

13:02 you have the lights there for safety in case u open the rear trunk in the evening so other cars/vehicles behind will know there is a car out there. Will thought of Lucid. For the paint issues, seller must have: first, inform the customer Second, get lucid's support in case it was a factory issue, else its retails issue to compensate by reduing the price.

@BerlinBLR

2 жыл бұрын

Its not well though of from Lucid, its literally the law

Car looks cool but it would appear to have been built very cheap judging it based on this video alone. Love the vid and to answer your question about the red lights in the trunk jam, its to alert drivers behind you of the vehicles presence if the trunk is open. Some cars have red lights in the door jam for the same reason

Very informative look at how to evaluate build quality. Great job.

planning to get one next month. Thanks for the detailed review. I'll be sure to checkout for disattached wheel stuff and the window parts that come off. :)

I think the lights at the trunk lid are for safety. If you are at the trunk getting something out and on coming vehicle will see the red lights. You forgot to open up the front lid and examine the fronk that has additional storage. Overall excellent video of your observations. I have a deposit in on the Lucid Pure. They are going up in price by $15K on June 1st.

@ImaginarySpace

2 жыл бұрын

Seen those before in door corners, but I think first time in a trunk. But totally makes sense to have those there.

Great video, Jason. Kind of discouraging to see such lackluster quality in such an expensive car. Especially the repainted part of the car. Your statement, "because it's the right thing to do" is a testimonial to your character. Keep up the great work.

@frankthefrog2003

2 жыл бұрын

This happens all the time to all cars with any automaker. It just happens but customers just don’t think about those things.

@TheGamingNorwegian

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankthefrog2003 Good luck finding issues like this on lets say a new BMW... Lucid is worse than other manufacturers, granted they have just started mass producing so hopefully they learn from their mistakes.

@waki0069

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGamingNorwegian meanwhile at Tesla 🤣

Really great video. First I watched and will be watching more.

great video and very detail oriented.. thank you

Damage doesn't just happen in transit. You'd be surprised on the damage that happens during the manufacturing process. Robot paint errors are common along with paint contamination (dirt, dust, fibers...), paint imperfections with metallic, ecoat drip under the paint...anyways, when those issues are found on the conveyor and the production team can't buff them out they send it to an offline repair section of the factory where those defects are worked on. Depending on the severity of the defects it may require sanding and respray with human hands. At worst there might be a dent that requires sanding down to the metal to pop out and then it manually gets resprayed. After it's repaired it goes back onto the conveyor for assembly and during the assembly process some still get damaged by either robots or production associates. When the car makes it to final inspection they try to catch any new or pre existing defects. If they catch paint or body defects they'll send the car to the factory "paint hospital" for repair before finally getting loaded onto a truck to reach its final destination....then they can possibly sustain damage during transport as well.

@thetrailoutthere

2 жыл бұрын

Also, repairs that happen on before transfer of ownership from the manufacturer to the first registered owner don't have to be reported as long as it's not a saftey/reliability issue in which case if they can't repair it they just scrap the whole unit and take parts off of it to use on other units (if still usable). I used to work at a dealership and we would send cars to a good repair shop to get resprayed because they'd get damaged during transport. Since no insurance was involved for those it won't come out in the carfax history as having been repaired.

@julie4871

2 жыл бұрын

WoW... I'm shocked to hear all this about damage to cars long before 1st buyer gets it home. But my guess is it's been a fact of the automobile industry since the beginning. 🤷‍♀️

@thetrailoutthere

2 жыл бұрын

@@julie4871 yup, I would imagine it was worse before. Now that we have better equipment and technology I'm sure the damage is less and repairs have gotten better.

Rear lights in trunk jam is Fed law . Nice job going over the car and finding the repaint on drivers side !

wow man.. first vid i saw from you and noticed how detailed ur eyes are bro.. i wish i was living near your city so i can swing my truck on by to pay u a visit.. great job.

12:47 There needs to be lights there, in order to keep the presence lights visible, even if you have your trunk opened, as the majority of the rear lights are present on the trunk lid. An example of this may be if you have a flat tire on the side of the highway, and you have opened your trunk to reach your tools and leave it opened, your lights shall remain visible to the incoming traffic, in order for them to acknowledge your presence there.

All and all still a beautiful EV car 🚗.... Better looking than the competitors ... I prefer the design Period.. And the space inside

@MrCrs9225

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Model S looks better but that's just me!

I like the car over all, I cant see the concept of the one piece roof windshield being a great long term idea.

@andromeda9340

2 жыл бұрын

Some lucid airs like the pure version will have full metal roofs.

Awesome in depth review, I will never be able to buy a vehicle for $140k but this was eye opening. We expect new vehicles to be perfect, but if it is human made it will have flaws... just wasn't expecting this car to have so many repainted body panels!

Really enjoy watching you! 👀😊❤️👍🏻💪🏻

For a brand new company it may have its issues but for your detailed eye it seems rather good. It will be interesting to see if the manufacturer sees these kinds of things and puts in place a quality control procedure to better improve their product

@zbyszanna

2 жыл бұрын

They claim the very high attention to detail, the luxury is what they are selling. Normally I would have no problem with a new company having such problems, but not when you sell luxury.

@megustaav

2 жыл бұрын

You can get really nice car for $140k so I guess they need really good quality control here to stay in the game.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

@@zbyszanna Exactly.

@VaunShiz

2 жыл бұрын

Tesla the biggest EV maker in the world still has quality control issues 10 years later , I don't expect these cars to improve for a long time

Hum, I'm not feel'in it.... I have one of these, the GT version in Zenith red, same as this car. As soon as I saw this video and went out to check all the points you brought up in the video. I did not see any of the stuff you showed. I carefully went over the whole car, didn't see the aberrations you pointed out. The door trim being loose is odd because this car's door trim looks a little different then mine and it's solidly mounted, you can't pull it off. I'm not saying you didn't see this stuff because it's clearly on the video. But I wonder, as you pointed out, if something happened to this car and someone isn't owning up to it. It looks like some random body shop person tried to fix the car as evidenced by the door trim that doesn't look like Lucid's. It would make no sense that this fix happened at the Lucid factory - they would have used their own door trim. A body shop person wouldn't have access to Lucid parts yet. So, since my car doesn't look like this - and I picked it up a week ago and haven't been in an accident - I might think that I don't know the whole story even if the owner says they don't know anything about an accident - something doesn't make sense.... You just don't know sometimes....

@johnlin9262

2 жыл бұрын

I think what's happening in that video it seems is the owner had an accident and someone did a crappy job of fixing it. That's why things don't look like it was put back correctly and there's missing pins to hold them in.

@TheGamingNorwegian

2 жыл бұрын

Or you just got lucky and got a well built car, thats more likely really.

This is a great video. Definitely one of a kind.

Jassooooon, keep up the good work, see you all Monday (again)

Great video and impressive detail inspections with spotlight , magnifier glass and paint meter. I bet if you run that same inspection on a $140,000 Mercedes or BMW... You would be surprised what you find. One thing that bugs me, a car enthusiastic and a professional detailer with over 15yrs experience in car... He doesnt understand why there are lights on bumpers!! Just common sense no need to know DOT laws! I enjoy the video though.

@carlosoruna7174

2 жыл бұрын

Sowwy. Over 50k for mass production is a waste.

@bruintoo

2 жыл бұрын

But the lights are covered by the trunk lid? Why indeed.

@logantp7698

2 жыл бұрын

@@bruintoo It will lid up at night when you open up the rear door so other cars can see you when they are coming. Per DOT laws.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

@@logantp7698 Yup. It's the tradeoff for having a full-width trunk lid. Other vehicles have the trunk lid inside the rear lights and don't need the rigmarole, but if you want to go the other way with your design you'll need those "internal" brake/signal lights. Not all laws make sense like this one!

Great video Jason. Dealers can be the worse... I've worked for 2 in my past life. Especially when a "new" model arrives in the dealership. They'll pull the odometer plug, go have fun with the car and then put it on display as new. In the meantime anything could have happened. I've seen it with a brand new NSX. Hopefully you'll get to work on another one and tell us if this was a dealership-abused-then-fixed car or if it's a general quality issue. I know it can be normal for a new manufacturer to have quality issue. Still waiting on Tesla to fix theirs!!!!!!

@pilot1721

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is a lie. The odometer is programmed in and there is generally only 1 plug on the cluster to disconnect it sets off a bunch of codes and puts it into failsafe mode. Especially on an NSX you cannot just "unplug" the odometer

@jprusso224

2 жыл бұрын

@@pilot1721 I'm talking 1989 here......

Great public service sir! Thank you!

Great video by all means. %100 honest. These doors are soft close doors, so you need to softly shut them and the hinges will suck the door to latch it. Also the white trim on top was originally brushed aluminum and painted over it's an option but apparently wasn't painted properly.

I would still love to own this car. The range and efficiency and charging speed is incredible.

Just wait till you see the iX Bmw lights, super trippy. First cars from Lucid will have their kinks, you should see what a Founder Model X or even worse Founder Model S looks like... Let's compare apples to apples.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

Disagree. If your new car company wants to break in at six-figures-plus, your product should get the basics right, like paint job. So many other things about the Lucid *are* rocket science, the reliability of which needs to be proven... but they're skimping on paintjob? Red flag warning.

@dasteknoviking

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericjbowman1708 Tesla used to sell cars for similar price when they bowed onto the market...their quality is still not on par with legacy manufacturers in terms of fit n finish

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

@@dasteknoviking Leaving the door open for a competitor like Lucid to do better in that regard.

Great honest review. Thank you. Lucid has some ‘splaining to do.

Excellent Channel. Thanks…

Wow! $140,000 car and obviously they do not have a quality control department! Dang!

@bigmacdaddy1234

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, they do have a quality control department.

@Euro2024champs

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigmacdaddy1234 well they must be a bunch of apathetic hacks who need their eyes testing.

This is Tesla 2.0 alright, at least when it comes to build quality. Although I'll be honest, I just took delivery of my Model Y and it isn't much better.

@nexusebtuoy

2 жыл бұрын

Keep buying dumbfounded televised advertisers ZZZZZZZZOMBIESZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Amazing observations!

I’m just sitting here trying to figure out if the sun visors are attached with adhesive or are they attached mechanically. All of that glass is going to bring in heat and the glass needs to be tinted. Awesome job noticing the overspray on the trim and I hope the customer was informed about this from the dealership. Thank you for the fun video and the car does look cool.

@Kagemusha320

2 жыл бұрын

probably adhesive like 90% of rear view mirrors are.

It's nice you guys do these things. The few Tesla's I've seen appeared to be put together quite well. I'm surprised with the Lucid since it's a good bit more expensive.

@Ninj_SRG

2 жыл бұрын

Tesla is still a very new company and Lucid is even newer. This is to be expected

@joesmith9483

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ninj_SRG i'm looking forward to the lucid SUV. It looks like an amazing car and hopefully kinks will be worked out.

@Ninj_SRG

2 жыл бұрын

@@joesmith9483 probably be slightly better but I don’t expect it to be significantly better until they have a few more big factories like Tesla

@ryanthompson3737

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ninj_SRG You can't call Lucid "newer" when they're ran by a Tesla lead engineer that worked on the Model 3. In fact, he marketed his company off the fact that he worked at Tesla, and then proceeded to BASH THEM for quality control issues, bragging that they'd use their experiences at Tesla to avoid the same problems... And yet here we are with a $170k car with THE SAME quality control issues we expected. I'm also not one to cast out any specific country from investing, but it doesn't bring me ANY confidence knowing 62% of the company is owned DIRECTLY by the Saudi Arabian government.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ninj_SRG Sorry, no. Lucid chose to compete up-market, at a high price point where quality fit-finish-pain is to be expected, not flaws. "Fake it til ya make it" for $140K is not cool.

Great video Jason! And huge props that you're going to tell the customer about the issues you discovered, even if it means your work might be delayed (or canceled). Can you post an update to let us know how that turns out?

@ChicagoAutoPros

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the timing was bad and we couldn’t get a full video done of us doing the work. Thanks for watching Scott.

@scotteg

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChicagoAutoPros No I meant if the customer proceeded with your work or postponed to address the issue with the dealer. I guess they proceeded?

Great video. Love the color on the Lucid. Sharp body lines & styling. I would have loved to see at least a peak at the power plant. Is the car overpriced - yes, no, maybe so but folks got to recognize that it’s a start-up company so the initial models will cost more. There are those who will buy without hesitation if they have the funds.

@andromeda9340

2 жыл бұрын

the color is called zenith red

@VaunShiz

2 жыл бұрын

It's so grandpa looking

Thank you for the video please do more like it

Those imperfections & repaints each tell a story of someone's negligence and furthermore comes with the associated bad energy. ... The Detailer's job is to remove all bad energies and leave behind only the passion

Relatively easy to make 100-500 vehicles. You can re-paint, etc. to get it right. Entirely different universe to make cars in volume. If you have any issue, you quickly run out of room in your plant to rework issues. Tesla sold almost 1 million vehicles last year without skilled union workers, which is an engineering / manufacturing achievement that is vastly underrated. Cool looking car, but such a giant hurdle to get to sustainable and profitable volume. People also underestimate how good of quality car a new Chevy, Chrysler, Hyundai, etc. actually is. "Build quality" is really just many hundreds and thousands (or millions) of repetitions to continuously improvement processes. Can't do that if only building 100 vehicles. This is likely repainted at the plant, since they are just trying to get the first cars off the line correct.

@minnguyen4872

2 жыл бұрын

dam i forgot they did only less100i dont know why they cant do good on paint

Your experience is highly appreciated!

Appreciated your gauging the paint thickness.

Wow, the Lucid comes with way less problems compared to some serious issues with Tesla which they had not been able to fix even after delivering more than a hundred thousand cars already worldwide. Future looks green with Lucid.

@ryanthompson3737

2 жыл бұрын

And yet if asked to prove your claim that ALL teslas coming out of a factory today have this kind of quality, you'd be nowhere to be found.

Tesla fanboys cries about their cars quality 😂. Just imagined getting a 150k worth of cars with this qualify 💩.

I have the same car, same trim on order, and guess who my detail shop is..... Liked the video Jason, just glad that's not my car. See you guys in Elmhurst when mine gets delivered.

Thanks for this. I just ordered one and will know what to look for. I’m sure it will be a while before mine is delivered since I’m just ordering so hopefully the finish issues will be resolved as they ramp up production. That’s the color I ordered as well.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you're leasing. I've had my $300 down for well over a year, but I'm gonna ask for that back at this point, and lease next year's model if it's improved. Or just keep driving my aging W12 Phaeton while waiting for rural quick-charge stations, excellent snow/mountain car -- which the Lucid won't be; as with any EV based on LiFePo4 instead of LiFeYPo4 battery chemistry. I can park my Phaeton at a mountain airport for a week in the dead of winter, and it will start when I return. Unless plugged in, Tesla - Lucid - Rivian - Polestar - legacy manufacturer won't, because they'll have drained their batteries keeping their batteries warm at below-freezing temps. Without Yttrium in the mix, Li-ion batteries deep cycle at cold temps, which they are not designed for, so don't expect 'em to last long in harsh climates. Hence, recommend leasing any current BEV unless mild climate. Lucid disappointed me by claiming the Air could be parked for 800 days at subzero temps before the batteries discharge. *bullpuckey* >cough< I still think it's a fantastic car I'd love to own... or preferably lease. Just keepin' it real.

For a new car manufacturer I'd say they did a pretty good job!

@ryanthompson3737

2 жыл бұрын

And yet they only exist off the back of Tesla. Funny thing is that Teslas 2nd production year showed nearly double the production rate of Lucid... and they were ACTUALLY a new company.

If someone spends six figures on a new car that has undisclosed paint work it's going straight back. Completely unacceptable

Ive got 305 shares of LCID and will continue to buy until I get up to 1000 shares. Im obviously hoping Lucid succeeds . Thanks for video.

Jason, another great video! My new truck had similar paint issues with pigtails and clearcoat overspray on the door. Couple questions for you. What would you recommend to remove the pigtails? And what would you recommend to remove clearcoat overspray?

@billiebobbienorton2556

2 жыл бұрын

remove the pigtails by removing the pigs.

That type of quality is not worth 100k+

Felt those door slams, Lucid has soft door close for stealth, lol. Great content as always and that attention to detail 🙏

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

Retrofitted my '04 Phaetons with later-model soft-close doors. Why? Because the plastic on the window regulators gets brittle over time, slam the door and the window drops into the door and good luck with that. Always go for the soft-close door/trunklid option, in this day and age, even if you don't think you need it!

Pretty minimal issues. Remember your paying for the technology and it’s less than a year in production. With gas prices $5-6 on the west coast and expecting it to go up to $7-8 per gallon these EV will look better and better. Lucid definitely will have a future. It’s only going to get better.

@JamesSmith-uc8nt

2 жыл бұрын

It's a 150k car so these aren't pretty minimal when you consider the price

@dericanslum1696

2 жыл бұрын

...sure...if you're an idiot that thinks batteries create energy or the process to acquire that energy is harmless...

Very professional and comprehensive assessment of the Lucid vehicle. It pays to pay attention to these details when receiving a new vehicle. I have received new vehicles in the past that have clearly had repaint and other corrective work prior to delivery. When brought to the attention of the dealership, the reaction was one of acceptance that these events are routine. No surprise which came as a surprise to me at the time. I refused delivery of the vehicle. If it has some problems I can find, it probably has more that I haven't found. The owner of this Lucid should consider the same. Lucid is better than this.

Nice job on the review. You have a particular set of skills - which you have developed over time. . . Seriously though, I wonder how those loose door/window trim pieces are going to fair when the windows are covered with ice and "glued" to the trim. Surprises coming next winter.

Great video!!!

I live in the chicago area and i love those Chicago auto pros shirts ! I will work for you one day and have one for myself ! 💪🏽

13:05 because laws in some countries ask for manufacturers to have tail lights always visible. Exemple: you are on the side of the road at midnight with the trunk open. Lucid tail lights are on the trunk and are not visible from behind if you open the trunk, that is why they had to put another set of tail lights to pass laws.

i just love this car its so beautiful and powerful. nice video

G'day, really liked your presentation, I would love to hear a rating score between the brands on how an Auto Manufacturer goes about producing their product range to say a 5 star rating especially being valued at $140 to $170K one would expect a super a quality product. Best regards...

Superb detailer detective ! Ahh-inspiring.

I was driving on the highway and saw a Lucid on a flatbed. Outside of Chicago too, funny enough. The car was totally fine outside, but the alarm was going off for an untold amount of miles.

Very good evaluation. I really appreciated the candidness of his presentation. The effort put into his work that would eventually save him from liability and any tarnishing of his reputation. This video makes me think about myself putting more time into examining a project of any kind before I start.

I used to work for a Pontiac dealership and new cars were damaged quite often. One of my tasks was dropping them off and picking them up from the body shop. Trust me, some cars have extensive damage. They get backed into, side swiped, things fall on them etc. there is no requirement to tell the buyer about any of this.

interesting, THANK YOU

Thanks. Fit and finish are very important. Considering reserving a new Air, have been waiting for this type of review.

@ericjbowman1708

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you can buy my reservation and leapfrog up the list, I'll be waiting until at least next year, reservation not required.

@stevensnow4112

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericjbowman1708 I'm holding on reserving. Want to insure fit/finish will be satisfactory and in consideration of current economic situation. but thanks.

I'd love to bring my Lucid for detailing to your shop when I get it. And yes, you need the lights in the trunk because lights must be visible when the trunk is open.

I agree with you that no one looks at it that close when they buy it. On the other hand when I paint one they will pick things under the bumper.

That color is beautiful 🤩

Very interesting inspection!

8:21 Door sounds like you closed a 1998 Dodge Neon 🤣

You mean how bad ass is it? Super bad ass, is your answer. Glad I could help!

The lights you noticed inside the trunk are required by law in some countries. Basically, if you stop at the side of the road and open the trunk, your car's rear lights should still be visible to traffic behind you. Because in this car opening the trunk moves your rear lights up in the air, they had to put rear lights on the inside. This is why most cars will have the red lights split, some on the trunk and some on the outside so that they are still seen when you open the trunk.

Great vid. If the lights on the back of any vehicle move its illegal so they have to have a stationary set. If that trunk was open on the side of the road at night the reflectors might not be enough for incoming traffic travel fast.