I just bought the 2023 Streetglide St. Like your black one in the video. Still have to pick it up this weekend. Can't wait. Great video subscribed thanks

I had the opportunity to ride several models of Harleys and hands down my SG ST is my favorite. Once you accept that the ST is more of a sport style bike and get over having to maneuver around the heavy breather, it is one hell of a ride.

The black SG joke has been going on for almost 10 years now. Lol I prefer the special over the st for the money. If the MoCo would have put the Ohlin suspension and stage 2 audio the st would be my pick

I have the SGST in gunship gray. I did some mountain rides this summer and it was a lot of fun. I traded a CVO Roadglide in on it. The suspension on the ST is very good. I think there is no substitute for travel no matter how good the suspension is. I cannot tell any difference in the 2 farings either. I do wish they had put black wheels on the gray ST though. I put some Cobra slipons on and like this bike. As far as it being a sport tourer, I think it's a good start.

I currently ride solo and I really like factory hot rods plus I prefer the taillight setup on the ST. I would choose the ST.

My favorite between the two, is the Street Glide ST because I love the Black Gloss paint on this unit! I love Black on a H-D. ! It's just a Cool Black Look!

I have a street glide special 2019 with a 117! I bought a 21?roadglide special last year! Which I loved! But decided to trade the roadglide special for the road glide st because I like the aggressive performance bagger idea! I’m really pleased with the st! And I have something different than what I already have! My special has a look obviously and now with st I can go a different direction!

You need to learn where at on each bike that Harley measures the ground clearance and lean angle from. If the same places on both bikes when it comes down to ground clearance it’s all based off the suspension wheels and fenders. For the difference in lean angle or lack of it will be based off the frame and wheelbase of bike which both are equal so same lean angle. I would also get the ST for performance and you always change the seat most likely and I hate stretch bags too lol love the data and details you put out for us to know and be able to compare thanks so much for what you do

I’ll take the Special. Love the look

Great review as always. If you are going to some event, give us all a heads up.

One guess on lean angle: the first part to touch down is floorboards, they are pretty far forward so not very impacted by extra suspension. Just a guess, though. I prefer the ST as the suspension on the special is too short for me, would swap it out.

The website is wrong. They also have the st not having abs, cruise control, security, and audio in the comparison those items are listed N/A

I respect your opinion,which is why I keep watching your videos But I prefer the red line red.

Nice pair up. Special for me, as is.

Thanks for the great videos. The HP figures are on the Canadian website. ST 106 hp/4750rpm Special 97hp/5250rpm Standard 93hp/5020rpm

@HDR20

2 жыл бұрын

I believe those are a little high or at the crank. Fuel moto post dyno numbers at the wheel

@jasperduncan6633

2 жыл бұрын

UK spec Special 93bhp @ 5250rpm, ST 103bhp @ 5450rpm Harley love to keep you guessing!

I would think the difference between the lean angle vs ground clearance is correct because the lean angles are the same due to floor boards hitting before the ground cleance being contacted because they are measuring ground clearance in the center of the bike under the transmission

I’d take the Special in that lovely red but I’d fit standard bags instead of the stretched ones. I suspect the lean angle issue is a mistake on the website because I’d expect it to be slightly better on the ST.

My new ride is a 2022 Road Glide Special. I can live with either fairing but find the fixed fairing is a great touring fairing. Personally, I could live with either of these Street Glides. The price difference isn't much.

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Apparently according to Cycle World, the greater lean angle is achieved due to the rear shock increased travel from 2.1" on the Special to 3" on the ST. That's a claimed 40% difference. Combine that with the regular bags instead of the stretched bags. Although both are listed the same on the HD website.

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense. I need to educate myself a little more on the suspension because I have heard it's not just taller. Nothing I've seen has said how it's different just that it is.

@RickyG512

Жыл бұрын

@@throttleblip9854 I heard that the ST are emulsion shocks. But surely the special has emulsion shocks too?

Another apparent difference is the ST has the leg heat deflector and the Special does not. For me, it's a no-brainer to go with the 117" Street Glide ST.

@throttleblip9854

Жыл бұрын

Good point. Not expensive to add them to the Special but it makes such a difference it should come with them.

I like the Special, If I bought a touring bike (and I will someday) I like it to look like a bagger. I have a Fat Bob for performance. my personal choice like you say!

I like the RGST

I’m going against popular opinion here and picking the ST by a pretty large margin, but I would prefer the Road Glide. I don’t like extended bags, or the lower suspension of the Special. I love looking at certain Special models in certain color/trim combinations, but the ST is the one I’d rather ride. That said, I’m either going to buy a base Road Glide or Electra Glide Standard to save big money and make changes as I want to.

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I own a 22 Special and looked at both bikes and decided that the bigger engine wasn't needed and I don't like the seat on the ST. The Special fit my needs better so I bought it.

I love it when people ask subscribe I never do it but thanks for asking

I got the 2022 Street Glide Special Black on Black

SGS with the 117cui engine and better suspension (Wilbers Nivomat or Öhlins) is my favorite combination of both worlds. But without the heavy breather air filter, that doesn't fit to my right leg...

I'd get the ST but would immediately get rid of that air cleaner. At 6'5'' it does impede my leg when riding, test drove a Road Glide with one and had to turn around in the parking lot it was so bad. I'd also replace the seat but I'd get like a Le Pera or Saddleman extended reach.

The rear fenders should have been shorter with the rear lights higher.. also a sleeker saddle bag plus the tank should have had a flatter rear section for grip for ST … the angle is a typo in website….

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I chose the ST. I ride solo, and like the longer suspension travel

To the question about leaning angle, I think it has to do with the saddle bags when you are leaning. But I’m no expert!

I would definitely choose the ST. I'm currently riding a low rider S with the 117 engine. Love it, but considering a trade for the Streetglide ST.

@throttleblip9854

Жыл бұрын

I like the Street Glides, has one a few years ago. Unless you go longer distance or you're a bigger dude I'd also consider the Lowrider ST. I know it's basically what you have but that fairing and bags made it a much better bike in my opinion.

I would choose the ST over the special for the looks and the 117.

Thanks a lot. Subbed BTW

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

I just bought a 22 Grey SGS from my local dealer. They had STs in black in both the RG and SG and after having a SGS in black I decided to go for a different color. Since I am getting a full stage 2 on my bike and ride my wife on it; I didn't think even waiting for a grey ST was worth the difference in price or performance.

@allwrong3114

2 жыл бұрын

Good thinking Larry

Just a note. Looks like the ST comes with the mid-frame air deflectors.

Ground clearance is measured from lowest point. If the lowest point is lets say the rear fender then the ST has more. Maximum lean angle is measured in a lean. When the bike is leaning, the ground clearance measurement doesn't matter. As you are measuring what touches the ground first. In this case, foot board on the right side, jiffy stand on the left.

@teabagg6217

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Known fact to me, but i didnt realize until you explained it out. Smh thanks bud

@MrCRM2011

2 жыл бұрын

Geeat explanation Captain. You explained it better then I could have 👍🏾

Didn't I also read/see somewhere that the ST doesn't have cruise control and something else with the electronics? Navigation maybe? Great video, I'll take the Special.

@acethedisturbed

Жыл бұрын

Super late to respond but you can see the little cruise control knob in the video.

@grayghost1423

Жыл бұрын

It has Nav too.

So I know I’m late on this comment and someone may have already said it. But the lean angle is the same due to the tires. If they have more sidewall like a sport bike lean angle would change. But since they are the same tires they can only go so far before control is an issue. Long time fan by the way. Keep it up.

Thanks for the comparison. I am trying to figure out between ElectricGlide and StreetGlide......since the RoadGlide is out... I agree on the bike choice, but I prefer the red fender style....Is there any way you could do a comparison with an ElectricGlite and a Street Glide ST? Thanks if ya can't...still love ya videos anyways...my knowledge is limited and desires for a bike is great. Hava blessed day sir.

I prefer the looks of the ST. Smaller fender and I prefer the smaller saddlebags too. The engine is a toss; it’s cool to have the bigger engine but both could use a cam upgrade. I’d upgrade the suspension in both as well so that’s a toss.

Is the lean angle due to the engine guards

I would also go with the ST bigger engine from the factory

I’m curious to know, what do they say about guys with black street glide?

I would pay up and look big and buy the ST

My special. Is great! No need for an ST

One other difference I don’t think you covered. I see the Special has an antenna, so I’m guessing the ST’s is under the fairing?

Logically, the more ground clearance you have, the more lean angle you should also have.

I know this video is a year old, but the changes are the same this year. I prefer the ST based on the standard bags alone. The fact it comes with a bigger engine and 13" shocks (even though I'll replace them with Ohlins), the ST is a better value.

I can’t believe you missed the longer shock on the st. The st has a 13” shock compared to the 12” special shock which sucks handling wise.

Good question, why is that the lean angles are exactly the same if the ST is higher than the special? Have we got an answer yet?

Error on website. One should have a degree or two more than the other based on height. Hard decision which to choose. I like both equally well.

I noticed the cut out on the st between the bag and the rear fender does that mean you can install the cvo tail lights?

@grayghost1423

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

Maybe the tires dictate the lean angle

I have a feeling that the lean angle is listed that way on HD site because of saftey and maybe liability reasons Can you emagine the lawsuits for claming lower lean angles and people going out and trying to lay these big bike down into turns like a sport bike and getting hurt doing it. Its safer to list it the same.

Done ✔ 👍🏽

Les amortisseurs (arrière )du street guide ST = Standard 32cm / Street guide spécial =low 30cm

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I was wondering about so many comments on the Street Glide model that the wind buffeting is real bad and sometimes even terrible. How do so many complain of this but yet others say its fine?

@allwrong3114

2 жыл бұрын

Eric, I have had Eglides (bat wing touring bikes) since 2000. In my experience buffeting can be caused by a number of different things, even your helmet type. Every new Glide I have ever acquired got lower fairings if it didn't already come with them, and I put some of those fairing wind deflectors to push wind around the rider. The biggest mistake riders make, again in my opinion, is putting form before function. For example, guys love those short wind shields. Great. They look good but they suck on the road and promote buffeting. I always split the difference between looks and functionality and went with a 10" shield on all my glides. The more you can improve the rider's bubble the better. Good luck!

@ericjames7680

2 жыл бұрын

@@allwrong3114 Thank You for the help and the very informative and helpful reply. Yes I think you are right as I see alot of people with the stock windscreen as they do look good on the bike. I have been watching Daytona Bike Week here on You Tube and only 1 out of the hundred or so Street Glides had the cure for buffeting installed and that is the fork mounted FANGS wind deflectors on that ARE somewhat ugly but reading over 100 reviews on them, they seem to work .

@allwrong3114

2 жыл бұрын

They work real well if you don't have lower fairings and you don't want to spend the cash on them. I had them on an old Dyna and a couple of street glides. I powder coated one of he sets. As for looks... I get that. We all want our bikes to look cool but cool will cost you on the highway. If you're a street rider like the Dynabros and you don't get out on the highway much if at all, then cool is good. On the highway, eventually all "bikers" learn that function over form is key. Good luck Eric! @@ericjames7680

What size tire do each of them have for angle change?

@throttleblip9854

Жыл бұрын

Same size tires on both.

Hello 👋 Awesome videos as always! Would you be able to do a versus engines video on the CVO 117 vs the ST 117? Do they have different internals, cams, hp, torque? Thank You

@RickyG512

Жыл бұрын

I'd like this video too

Lean is effected by a number of factors. After listening to your review, it sounds like both bikes are running the same tires and wheels. Since they both have the same profile tires, lean will most likely be the same. Regardless of the height of the St vs. the Special once you run to the edge of the tire, you run out of lean. If the ST was running a tire with the profile of a spurt bike, it would lean quite a bit more before you reach the edge of the tire.

@throttleblip9854

Жыл бұрын

VERY well explained and great point. Makes sense when you word it that way. Thank you!

@perfectlynormal5729

Жыл бұрын

But don't you run into metal before you run out of rubber?

@derfskittlers6125

Жыл бұрын

​@@perfectlynormal5729 you'll never hit the rim unless maybe tire pressure is way low

@perfectlynormal5729

Жыл бұрын

@@derfskittlers6125 I wasn't referring to the rim.

@HDFXSB645

11 ай бұрын

​@@perfectlynormal5729I was thinking the same thing. You'll drag the floorboards before you run out of rubber

I would rather have a CVO Street Glide in the custom color

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

You definitely get a lot more bells and whistles but for 12k more you should. I had to take photos of the 22 CVO street glide so I rode it a short distance but that seat felt great for me and put me in a really comfortable riding position.

To add to the EXTRA CONFUSION, the CVO has even LOWER ground clearance, but EVEN MORE lean angle at 34 degrees! HOW ?? The ST and Special are both 31/32 lean angle

There is a difference between sales and a review

I don't know how you feel about the stretch bags bruh

I’d buy the Special because it’s prettier and the 114 is good enough for cruising. There is nothing “sport-touring” about an 800+ lb motorcycle with feet forward on floorboards

For me, I like the special. I like the stretched bags and just the whole package.

Yay!!! I'm a minority! I have been subscribed since the first video I watched! Also... Harley... Get your shit together! LED blinkers!!

Where is Road King ST?

@jimmycarlsson6414

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, the Road King is the King of all Harleys - please make a video

@throttleblip9854

2 жыл бұрын

I would have loved to see that as well.

@mikeessary4925

2 жыл бұрын

That would be epic!!

@davidefland1985

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that’s next year who knows

Street Glide Spezial,nothing else

I am not buying any Harley this year, too much surcharges for no reason, i already have a 2021 Street Glide along with a 2014 Wide Glide & 2009 Rocker C so not in a hurry to buy another; however, the ST with the 117 is nothing to me, put a larger version of the Revo Max into a Street Glide ST and i will buy.

@grayghost1423

Жыл бұрын

You will be waiting for a while on that.

@snakebite6511

Жыл бұрын

@@grayghost1423 I don’t think so, I think it will happen sooner than later

@grayghost1423

Жыл бұрын

@@snakebite6511 I have a Pan Am, as it is it would not make a great choice for a 800lb bike. It will be a while. The 975s will be next in another ADV bike. That's where the market is since the M8s are now reliable as anvils. The 1250 is very good, but it's no way ready for or would acceptable to the faithful in a tour bike. Besides the Pan Am makes a great Sport Tourer. Same when HD had the Vrod, it never was meant for a tour bike. The Pan Am is everything the Vrod couldn't be. This summer my wife and I rode 2 up through Montana, Idaho, Washington, and Wyoming. Yellowstone, Chief Joseph, and the the Beartooth. It's a serious machine, and can do on and off road, something my SGST can't and at speeds it cannot. My point is, the platform for 1250 is already there.

@snakebite6511

Жыл бұрын

@@grayghost1423 I would not want the 1250 in a touring bike, thats not what it was designed for; however, design an 1800 or more Rev Max engine for a touring bike and i will be 1st in line. Right now i have a 2009 Rocker C, 2014 Wide Glide and 2021 Street Glide, would love to ass another Street Glide with a larger version of the Rev Max engine in it (maybe something the size of the Indian Pursuit)

@grayghost1423

Жыл бұрын

@@snakebite6511 they don't make a Indian I like with the exception of the Chief. What you want is at least 5 years away, probably more. Same thing lots of people thought with the vrod. Good luck.

It's the tires, after the angle listed the tire runs out of contact patch and looses the grip on the road.

Not a fan of stretched bags. Would take the special & put the 2500 into performance 😎

I bought a 2022 SGS. I would not want a ST.

I got the Road Glide ST 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

@ItsTruble

Жыл бұрын

How is it? Give a little review on it?

@sixwheelcarlisle8491

Жыл бұрын

@@ItsTruble My Review: It’s great! I went from sport bikes to a Deluxe and now to the Road Glide ST. The ST has a good amount of leanability, plenty of power and good looks. I put a two up seat on it and passenger pegs for my son to ride with me. I’m 6’5” tall so the air cleaner gets in my way some, and the bars have way to much pull back for me, so the bars will be changed out in the near future, then there is the exhaust and it’s way to quiet. I would love it if this bike would use my apple phone for gps, without needing a flash or a mod. I have tailbone pain when I rode my deluxe for a while because I have broken my tailbone twice. I can ride the ST for hours and never have tailbone pain, but after a while your butt will eventually get tired of sitting on any seat. The fact that this bike came about because of the race series King of the Baggers is pretty badass, oh an the bronze color on the wheels, tank, and motor is sweet.

@ItsTruble

Жыл бұрын

@@sixwheelcarlisle8491 thanks for your little review! Going around to dealers now trying to find the best price I’ll be able to get. I agree west must be changed and I’m debating if I do indeed get this one swapping the exhaust and possibly the cam to bring that engine to life!

@sixwheelcarlisle8491

Жыл бұрын

@@ItsTruble I swapped out the exhaust and now I cannot really hear the speakers lol, but at speed the wind noice makes it hard to hear the speakers anyway. So there is a trade off there, and I don’t max out the speaker volume though either

@ItsTruble

Жыл бұрын

@@sixwheelcarlisle8491 Went for a test ride on the road and street glide. Ended up liking the SG ST so I got one? 🤣🤷‍♂️

I choose "Fat Boy!"

Not one of those Harleys are in my price range Harley has put the price ridiculously too high for the working man I say bye Kawasaki by Honda by Suzuki they’re a lot better

@mikeessary4925

2 жыл бұрын

It's buy Not bye

@MrMartman777

Жыл бұрын

I bought 2 shovel heads. 4 K each. They do Everything I need & I wrench on them myself

@mikehanig6797

Жыл бұрын

It’s probably more the fault of their add on for financing and paperwork fees I used to get paid for financing and the dealership made out nicely. Now they get paid by the banks or Harley, wherever the financing is is done and still charge the customer for it as well .

The ST is kind of ugly. I wish the Street Glide Special was offered with a 131 But I wish that that red was offered every single year on the street glide. That is the most beautiful red I have ever seen. And the second I decide to buy one they'll quit making it. And then they'll offer like a black or dark blue or white or some shit I don't want. I love that red

Buuuuuttttt!

Bronze rims are ugly

If you get a vivid black special with the black trim! It’s only a 1000 difference.

Luv your channel🫶🏼🙏💚☝️💯🦾👊 #sylv