I love it. I really can't see why some people are getting so angry about it. It's a new bike with an old name. No one believes it's a classic. I don't want it to be a classic. I hope it does well. And I hope the classic lovers keep their bikes going. It's different things. Why can't we just enjoy all bikes?

@dave6467

2 жыл бұрын

I think I'm what you would refer to as one of the angry ones. Just for me, I can't stand the fakeness of it. You said yourself it's a new bike, not a classic. Yet it's been styled to exactly mimic a particular bike from 60 years ago. It even has various plastic copycat parts. Where is the kudos and pleasure of classic bike ownership in this ? I'd have been far more respectful of Mahindra if they'd built a modern looking big single. Instead this is all about the marketing, trying to cash in on all the mid-life crisis guys out there trying to look like they ride a classic motorcycle. For me, this bike and the, equally fake, Triumph Bobber, are the very reason I can't stand this genre.

@robbikebob

2 жыл бұрын

@@dave6467 I love classic bikes, but they would be wasted on me. I'm not a fan of polishing, am fed up with getting my hands dirty working on them and don't want to spend thousands on an old bike that I would hate every time it broke down. These retro bikes are made for people like me. You can dislike it, that's fine, but appreciate that a lot of people like them. I want something that's new but looks old. I think sportsbikes are totally pointless on modern roads but I wouldn't want them not to exist! I don't hate them! Even though I'd rather eat my own feet than ride one!

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbikebob I echo your sentiments

@dave6467

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbikebob I do agree with you about sportsbikes being unnecessary on the roads. Also, as the current owner of a 41 year old Guzzi LeMans 850, I can also relate to your concerns about the pitfalls of older bikes. But I guess, for me, the issue has always been the fact that bikes like the BSA are just a bit fake. If it was a modern version of a sporty single I'd respect it a bit more. I've always wanted to fly a Spitfire, but it'll never happen. Now, there are replicas available, in fact one flew over me a couple of hours ago, but to me it just wouldn't be the same, as it's not the real thing. That essentially is the issue for me. They're pretending to be something they're not. Hence I'd just feel embarrassed owning one. Of course, if you like this sort of thing, then the fakeness won't put you off. If you get one I genuinely I hope you enjoy it. Bikes have to make your heart skip a beat when you open the garage door. If a plastic BSA, from India, does that then that's great.

@johnmartin1114

2 жыл бұрын

I have always wanted to take an a 65 and somehow converted to a 4-valve overhead cam unit make all joints oil tight throw on some Modern electrics and disc brakes I would think you would have a styling winner I own several classic bsa's the new one might be fake but I am glad they at least made a decent attempt unlike ajs I'm waiting for other to show up such as matchless Ariel and velocette

I have only one problem with this motorcycle and that is it's bigass radiator!

@milannovak2515

2 жыл бұрын

I found a second one - the catalytic converter under the engine

@robbikebob

2 жыл бұрын

It will have to have a radiator due to emissions and sound. The most they could do is to try and hide it a little and tidy up the pipework. But it's a budget bike and every bit of effort increases costs and pretty soon it would change from "that radiator looks a mess" to "the radiator is well disguised but it's well overpriced"....

That was indeed a detailed look. The Timing side with the "push rod tower" looks like a complete plastic cover shroud. Thanks for the close up, comfirms all suspicions I had. Another Royal Enfield.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

The aim is to give everyone a good close look so they can make up their minds

Que hermosa moto fanatico en mi juventud de la marca Bsa e tenido monocilindricas de 350 y 500 c.c y eran muy nobles siendo modelos del año 1948 la usaba todos los dias a pesar de sus años me imagino está con tecnología actual una moto para miles de km por su simpleza mecanica ojalá llegue a Argentina saludos lo mejor para ustedes hoy cuento con 63 años y poseo una royal meteor 350 pero sin dudas iria por la Bsa gracias por el video.

@MotoTingle

4 ай бұрын

Gracias. Espero que disfrutes de ser propietario de BSA en el futuro.

Can't wait to hear what the bike sounds like, if it sounds the same as the A10 rocket fantastic

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

You and me both!

Having had a DBD34 when I was 18 (now77) I looked at every video of the new bike and will buy one. I remember the uproar when BSA brought out the Rocket Goldie, yet it went on to be a success. Is anyone going to buy it because they think it's a real Goldie? I doubt it. I intend to get one and aftermarket the hell out of it. And yes, I wish I still had my Goldie that I sold for 150 quid back in 1963. Congrats to you for a very close inspection of the pre production model.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tony!

The finish is not great. Radiator is ugly the exhaust pipe to big to much plastic and the usb have to come off 🙄

I do like it,but to stay more faithful to the original , it needs chrome or SS mudguards,rubber fork gaiters,slightly more sporty bars,footrest a little more rearward and the exhaust need some restyling especially at the front. Then B S A will have a truly modern classic.

Lots of very nice touches like counterweights in handlebars. That plus 2 counterbalances on the crankshaft means Mahindra have made a big effort to minimise vibration. Lockable radiator cap essential this day and age unfortunately. I’m very impressed. Cudos to Big M for introducing a retro 652 cc Single in 2022.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I'll pop up a first ride video soon as I can

I am not a fan of painted mudguards. I wonder if they will offer chrome mudguards with all the other tank colours?

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Yes on the premium model there is chrome mudguards. Well there was on display. But let’s see what the final build brings. Let’s hope it’s not plastic chrome…

The full finish to everything worries me,what will it look like when it ages,the plumbing will also look grotty with age!

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

These are pre production motorcycles. To be fair we wont know until we see a production unit before we can make a firm decision.

I really like the look of this new bike. Had the chance to sit on that bike at the show. Got my name down for a test ride. If the pricing is similar to the Royal Enfield Interceptor then I think it will do well. Think the engine is a Rotax designed unit so should be decent.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping pricing is in-line with RE alao

@kirkwilson5117

2 жыл бұрын

HMMM>>>> IF THE pricing is in line with RE I think I AM ON board with the BSA.... IF QUALITy reports are good. I SURELY do love the look of the original having seen it in pictures and in the Barber museum in the states. I THink I Said if they made one like it again I would have to spring for it..... THAT said.... I SAID the same for the Z900 and they are making them again and I Don't have one yet.... But I am not worried as I have a speed triple from 2000 which I think covers any ground the Z900RS can cover 90+ % of the time. A great around town / slower paced bike may be this gold star.... 45 HP is a bit down on my expectations... surely we can get it to 60 HP or so like my old KX500 right lads?? I still have that KX500 by the way.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirkwilson5117 the Gold Star is restricted for A2 UK licence holders. The first restrictor is in the airbox, the second is within the ECU. There was chatter of dealers offering a £199 de-rsstriction. But it's just chatter right now. I'm the same, it will be good for going around town on or across Dartmoor. So suits me. But they have to get the quality and pricing right

I would have more confidence in it if it was built by Triumph instead of Mahindra. It would be interesting to see what this bike would have looked like if Triumph did it. They really need to do something about the engine. It looks like a bunch of plastic parts all superglued together & the colors are all over the place. I think it will be maybe on par with RE quality. You get what you pay for. At first glance it does grab you.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

It's half the price of a Triumph (expected). Let's see how things turn out. It's gonna sell or flop.

Hi great video I have been trying to work out what the little plastic filler cap marked coolant is at the rear bottom left side ?

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

The motorcycle is liquid cooled, it has a radiator and the coolant tank is an expansion tank

Love the looks of the bike! But…. That radiator looks like an after thought. They need to shape it into the front frame like Triumph did….

@PaulincrediblypleasingSmith

2 жыл бұрын

Scrap it altogether,this bike doesn't need it!

What's it SOUND like??!!

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

We will find out one day... C'mon BSA!

I hope they launch the 90hp unrestricted version as well for folks who are no longer riding the A2 license level.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I dont believe they will do this. The 90 Bhp variant is for accelerated wear testing. I doubt we will see anything more than 60 Bhp (Shh... I never told you this)

@kyakaruvlogs2784

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle 60hp is still pretty decent.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@heisenberg19989 I'd be happy with 60bhp too

@robbikebob

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle yeah, we don't want it highly tuned and fragile. 60 would be plenty for a sportsman version...

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbikebob fully agree

Finish is very rough. Too many unsightly mistakes or hurried decisions. Paintwork on frame is bad as are some wiring details. It will need much more tidying up to be presentable for public sale but I love the idea of resurrecting the bike. It will be a great addition to English legends.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

These are pre-production motorcycles. So I can forgive the rough edges. We all have to wait a while now, pricing is in May (not March as we were told) and release is still TBC

I had A 1968 BSA Lightning 650

I think they did a good job but I’ll wait till they come out with a 650 twin to relive my old BSA Lightning days.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Love it!

Sorry mate but a 1960‘s Gold Star DBD had 42 bhp, not only 17 as you write…

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the correction. I will amend it. Your feedback, Appreciated!

As they couldn't manufacture their bikes in UK. They used jawa plants and jawa parts ( that big ass radiator from jawa Perak )

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I expected some cross over of parts as Classic Ledgends own Jawa. The radiator cap is on the opposite side for the Gold Star but thats what we got

@SamudraBarman

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is classic legends listens to the public and make changes to their product . If UK buyers will suggest or complain about certain parts , they will definitely make changes in their motorcycles. As per my friends ,Radiator wasn't a issue for them .

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamudraBarman I have met the Director and other key staff of BSA. All respectful people. I believe what you are saying

@SamudraBarman

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle I hope they will use local supply chains as much as they can in the UK itself .

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamudraBarman They are trying to negotiate to build a factory but I hear they are finding it difficult as nobody seems to want any new factories built. Such a shame. I can't wait to own a BSA ♥️ and support this company

Got to buy one if the pricing is as good as an RE interceptor (in the East)!! 😍😍

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I fully agree. If they can match RE, then I am having a BSA Gold Star !

If my memory serves me right, the original had approx 39-42 HP but was lighter.It also had 1st gear that would take it to 70 it was so tall,had a GP carb with no tick over,and was not easy to start or live with,but it had a cult following. This version will be easy to live with,have similar performance,but I`m not sure about the cult status.Then again a 60 yr old nice example will cost £20k plus. This model a lot less.HMM no contest, get it bought.

@jeremykeller211

Жыл бұрын

Similar performance? This bike is almost 100 pounds too heavy--a colossal amount. Do you really believe that this will not affect performance? This could be true only if the bike never has to meet a corner.

Nice bike... Attractive design... That's all for now. _jan 2022

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I want one! Yes!

exhaust sound?

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

They were not allowed to run the motorcycles at time if filming. But it does have a removable DB killer

@entertainmentoverloaded5700

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle I still want to hear the sound :(

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@entertainmentoverloaded5700 wont be long and ill pop a video up

@entertainmentoverloaded5700

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle Thank u very much..if possible tag me, or notify me..im eager to listen... flying news is BSA goldster can me launched in India, thats why Im so much excited

Just like the Jawa they have messed up with the exhaust bendpipe.🥴

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

The aftermarket is going to be alive with options. I only get this from a DM from two UK exhaust makers asking if the moment I get near a Gold Star, would I bring it immediately to them. Nobody offered me an exhaust in payment tho, haha!

@ethanhunt356

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle Actually I was planning to buy Jawa classic, but put aside my plan because, aftermarket bendpipe for the same is not avilable right now in India.But certenly will book one after the bend pipe will be available in market👍

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethanhunt356 if all goes to plan here I'll pop up a video the first chance I get to add an aftermarket pipe

@dave6467

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle i don't think so. Not unless BSA sells thousands of them. It won't be worth their while doing the requied research and tooling. There'll be no profit in providing after market parts unless the numbers are there.

The engineers got this one right. True modern classic.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I do like the looks too. Red Line Ltd designed it

I wonder how would they fit crash guard?

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

There is an Indian specific version with guards that has been designed, minor modifications during production line. But I suspect the Indian variant will be constructed in India, not constructed in the UK then shipped to India

@rajb5595

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle thank you for the info !

This bike has a long way to go before it's presentable.

I Think they weigh 480 kg, thats too heavey

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

This is untrue. It's a touch over 200Kg wet

@MrPeterbennett

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle 440pounds, same as a Norton Commando

@MrPeterbennett

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle 60"s Bonnie 390 pounds

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPeterbennett you wrote 480Kg initially. Ill be meeting one very soon and will do a video to give you my thoughts

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrPeterbennett 60s Bonnie didn't have a ABS system or liquid cooling system. Plus my old bonnie leaked oil a lot, which has to account for the weight loss also, haha!

Looks fantastic

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I want one! So I put in my pre-order and lets see how this progresses!

@mred7030

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle who sells them ?

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@mred7030 the dealer network is still being negotiated

Great execution for a retro however the radiator and the plumbing seems to be an afterthought let's hope they clean that up

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

First generation, I suspect we won't see changes until the MK2

@johnmartin1114

2 жыл бұрын

Guess I will wait and see

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmartin1114 it's tricky. There's a lot against BSA, but I've met the people running it and they are making crazy sacrifices to bring this together. I agree, cooling pipes are not tidy, we might be looking at six years before evolution. If you think about it, Royal Enfield went through the same transition

@johnmartin1114

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle true but look a Yamaha xvs 1300 better exercise of design and function in that department

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmartin1114 V-Star. Yamaha have a huge R&D budget. I do like my Yamaha's

It'll be nice to see those down pipes "blue up" 👍

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

It's a cover! The aftermarket are going to love this motorcycle, I'd like titanium

@kabeemer

2 жыл бұрын

No, it won't. Pipes are double-wall, heat shield construction.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@kabeemer Yes, I explained that earlier. But you are very welcome. He just didnt get close to the motorcycle our job to point it out respectfully for those that dont know.

@therealunclevanya

2 жыл бұрын

@Trevor Wood it's hiding the catalytic converter so I doubt it will change much :(

The marketers have poured large amounts of money into the web to showcase what they call a Gold Star. The money should have been spent on developing a bike far better than this overweight barge.

I want to hear her!

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I'll do a video with and without the DB killer the moment I'm allowed to

@carlnapp4412

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle Thanks a bunch!

@robbikebob

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle looking forward to that!

Want one!!!

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Its a beauty!

@jonviol

2 жыл бұрын

Why? It is not a BSA ,just clever sales /design dudes playing with your mind . Buy one and you will be the laughing stock of every bike meet or club drinks .

@JamesWarrior

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonviol Laugh away. I couldn't give a toss.

@dave6467

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWarrior mate he's right. Why would you want to own a fake copy of a 60 year old bike? Have you no sense of authenticity? If you want a classic bike, buy a real one. Otherwise you're just another 'wannabe' trying to pretend you're a classic bike owner. It might impress the 80 year old lady down the road, but real motorcyclists will just laugh at you.

@JamesWarrior

2 жыл бұрын

@@dave6467 I would like a bike that didn't leak oil all over the place, didn't need kick starting and looked like the kind of bike I owned when I was a young man. There's nothing wrong with that.

Nice when it come to sale in India

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

If they get pricing right, these machines will sell well globally. If you buy one, please do a video and come back here with a link to it my friend

@therealunclevanya

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle I'm pretty sure Mahindra are selling it in the UK first and not in India until '23

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealunclevanya yes, that's what I was told. But as you know things can change

The switch gear is same that of the new Jawa I have

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Classic Legends own Jawa and BSA

@MOTOFLIXGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle classic legends might face legal issue if the launch BSA in India since the name is owned by TI CYCLES who are one of the largest bicycle manufacturers

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@MOTOFLIXGARAGE no way. They paid £3.5 million to use the name in the UK but didn't know the company had the rights in India.

@MOTOFLIXGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle Yes TI cycles own the BSA name. I will be the first one to book the BSA if it is launched in India, and it will be be second motorcycle

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@MOTOFLIXGARAGE Outstanding! Make a video when you get your BSA and link it here fir me to watch my friend!

💥 Liquid cooling is a stupid choice for retro Motorcycles 😪

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I asked them why they did this. It's because of emissions regulations. They wanted to make it air cooled

@mohamedyousif9257

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle But still a lot of air-cooled motorcycles are produced in many countries in the developed world❗

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedyousif9257 regulations here in the UK, Europe and the USA are much harder. So the way to look at it is if the motorcycle achieved the top regulatory approval it can be sold anywhere. But I can only remind you they wanted to make it air cooled but also want global sales

No se el valor de la moto ,pero por lo qe se ve tiene terminaciones muy malas ,todo el instrumental del manillar parece de una moto 110cc. No tuvieron en cuenta de agregarle detalles qe la haga más llamativa.palanca de cambio,bocina,tapa del tanque todo muy básico,las terminaciones dejan mucho qe desear.no entiendo semejante presentación para mostrar una moto con una marca emblemática como lo fue BSA. Horrible

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I am unsure also. Some of the damage was done during the show but other I can not say.

USA please!

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you'll be looking at 2023 but if anything you'll also get upgraded models as we provide feedback to BSA on them in the UK

@rickg.5171

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle thanks for the info.

It's not going to be sustainable if it is built to the expectations of the 500 odd British bikers. You only have to look at the British bike manufacturers over the years to see what happens when you do that. Just make a reliable cheap bike with good mileage which Indian masses can afford.

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Some people have set their expectations too high. I can't wait to own a BSA Gold ⭐

@PaulincrediblypleasingSmith

2 жыл бұрын

500 British bikers?? You had better consider the entire UK,USA,Canada,New Zealand ,South Africa,Australia,South america,all of Europe,throw in Asia as well,a few more than 500 there I believe!

Sorry but it makes me sick just looking at it .Nothing to do with BSA whatsover. Hoodwinked and deluded the whole affair . Sticking a badge on a new bike dosn't make an old bike and shapes are only shapes not BSA . Why not build a DBD34 again ,or an A65 using original castings with upgraded workings .? All very sad and somebody should say so .

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing. It's a new world we live in. There are regulations for emissions and meeting them well, doesn't involve much less than modern manufacturing. Its the way of the world my friend. Let me tell you, I talked with the director for the longest time, he was far more eloquent than I. But also the demographics of buyers looking for a 60+ year old design and build were in decimal places rather than percentages. So they did look into it. I like you have a love of old motorcycles. I own one. But I gotta be honest, I myself wouldn't buy a new,/old design. I'd rather have an original from the 50/60s than a new copy.

@peterwolffe5833

2 жыл бұрын

To me it's a stunning bike, so who's the manufacturer? I own a Harley Davidson FXD fat head, an yes I miss my A10 Gold flash outfit from late 60s-mid' 70s

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterwolffe5833 The manufacturer is classic legend in India. Deign was by Red Line Studios in the UK and BSA construction is here in the UK. This doesn't mean they won't construct them in India at some point to service other markets

@jonviol

2 жыл бұрын

It is an Indian piece of pretence .Nothing made in the UK ,if it was the price would be £30,000.00 plus .

@jonviol

2 жыл бұрын

Any bike that has a piece of plastic to suggest a pre unit gearbox cover is plain stupid . Nothing stunning at all except the initial cursory glance, then a realisation that that a sales/design team is playing a game with your mind . Buid a real BSA ,with RH gears Kickstart and proper exhaust pipes . It can be done and meet modern emissions. We aren't fools

just watched 6 min. of this video and still know nothing about it

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

This video isnt a 'spec check' its a look at the build quality more than anything. Sorry to disappoint

What a load of crap, I'm sorry to say British designers, designed it. Its poorly manufactured. and doesn't look like the quality of the original, I've just sold my interceptor which was beautiful compared with this B S A, only because that was to heavy and the BSA is heavier When i first saw it, i considered buying one, but your video scotched that Thank you Mr Moto Tingle

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why I took this video. So people can get to see pre-production motorcycles up close. As nobody else at the time was bothered to do, it was just all self serving standard influencer stuff. So taking a close up you can get a better idea of what BSA are offering. To be fair, this motorcycle probably had over a thousand people sit on off it, push it, scrape it to all the button. Pressing possible to try and scuff up the tank etc. I mean it had a lot of people on it. But you see for yourself the finer details that help you make an informed decision.

@leslienicholson3372

2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoTingle Once again, thank you for your proper video, it showed the machine as it is, i made my judgment and consider it final, your video was honest and factual which was not the case in other video's Happy new year to you.

Demo Bike looks bad

@MotoTingle

2 жыл бұрын

I guess we need to see a production model first. BMW S1000RR's demo fleet had poor welding to the subframes, everyones forgotten that tho. Kets see what BSA do with motorcycles this year

I had A 1968 BSA Lightning