2022 125 Two Stroke Shootout - Motocross Action Magazine
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In a world full of smartphones, smart TVs, smart cars and virtual-reality programs, we strive to get away from the hustle and bustle of the internet by spending much-needed time at the track. Even there, four-strokes, with their computer-programmed ECU mapping and Wi-Fi tuning, are more digital than ever. Don’t get us wrong, we drool over the latest dirt bike technology (at least the stuff that works). We love racing four-strokes, and we’re thankful for fuel injection and electric starting, but there’s something beautiful about a simple two-stroke engine that brings a smile to every MXA test rider’s face. The fun-to-use powerbands, lightweight handling and distinct two-stroke melody light a fire that makes us forget about looming electric bikes, Zoom meetings and virtual-reality programs.
We had a blast conducting last year’s “2021 125 Shootout,” so when Yamaha introduced a brand-new YZ125 for 2022, it was imperative that we schedule the bikes for a rematch. Unfortunately, we couldn’t get a 2022 TM 125MX because of COVID-related issues in Holland. Of course, we would have gotten our hands on a Fantic 125XX, but their agreement to platform-share Yamaha’s frame and engine forbids them from importing bikes to the USA.
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Honda needs to revive their cr125
@hondaisbad
Ай бұрын
for sure
Thank-you Yamaha for continuing to build a 2-stroke MX lineup as well as awesome sport quads! Love & own em all. #Yamaha #KTM #Maxima
In 1973, when I was 16, I bought a new Suzuki TM125 motocross bike for about 540 dollars out the door. It was a bad ass 125 for the time!
Thank God, no garbage music over the beautiful sounds from those motors!
I'm always gonna hope to see a revival of the RM line. Love these little 125 two strokes
@Davido50
2 жыл бұрын
Don't hold ur breath but it would be awesome. Still have a pristine 06 RM85 bought for my son & revamped whole bike. It's a ripper! We love it & want a new 125. Will be KTM or Yamaha..if Suzuki don't build a new 125cc bike. #maxima
@michaelkritter1694
Жыл бұрын
My 05 rm125 is the best handling motocross bike I have ever ridden. Fast 125 I have rode but haven’t rode a newer KTM125 but have had 2 ktm150sx and it’s close. rm125 probably has little better bottom end.
@patrickrodriguez320
Жыл бұрын
The RM was the best 125 in history
@MurphyAM
Жыл бұрын
I have a 1993 RM125 that lived for 15+ years tucked away in a basement. It’s such a blast from the past, I love it.
@ezrollerj
10 ай бұрын
Ill keep my 20 yr old built 144.
The 2022 TM Racing are vastly changes this year - ALL models got updates. :) I'm a TM Racing owner, and watch them all of the time. The new frames and chassis updates are even more narrow now! 💪 Love my TM Racing & Honda bikes!!!
@rollypollyraviolli4474
Жыл бұрын
I picked up a 300 mx. It makes my YZ125 feel like a tugboat in comparison. Thing corners like lightning. Engine is mean as hell. Only two stroke I've been on that doesn't get yarded by 450s on straights. In fact, I can now yard THEM. A shootout without TM isn't a shootout. It's 3 and a half KTM's
I only see two different bikes there, really…
@sawsapo8901
2 жыл бұрын
3 ktm and one YZ
@jurdegraaf6660
2 жыл бұрын
we need tm in the shout out then we got 3 different brands
@SPCRacing1
2 жыл бұрын
So true!
@derb.0311
2 жыл бұрын
Yes Boring.... I make 3 Companies to sell 1 Product in different Colors. High price, and many pieces.... Why? Normally when they make many pieces its not so expensive.....people laughing about suzuki but ktm didn't change so much (only higher price)...
@barbarakramer6176
2 жыл бұрын
What is a good bike for a 60-year-old?
Kawasaki need to resurrect their KX125 ~ 2 Stroke ❤🔥💀 I like the YZ125 as my pick from this shootout. As a recreational rider I think this would suit me best. I priced the new 2022 YZ125 here in Australia, and it is way more expensive than in the USA. Best deal I could get was $10,990 !! We have a few local dealers for GasGas, on the east coast here but haven't priced one, would probably be a bit less expensive than the Yamaha, and maybe a better option for the budget. But I do like the new YZ 125 🙃
@straightnobraker4677
2 жыл бұрын
I ride a yamaha but the gasgas is a great bike and would probably be a comparable price there.
I love how they put so much effort into the 125 but I wish they did it with all the other bikes and tested them in many different conditions but dammm they sound so good
@motocrossaction
2 жыл бұрын
We do with every shootout. Sometimes the video is the last piece to the puzzle. We aren't first on 4 stroke shootouts because we are racing them every weekend and taking them to different tracks over several months. You aren't going to find out what breaks or really much on a one day shootout ever. We use our faster riders for the videos but ALWAYS have a wide variety of test riders from young/old/fast/slow/skinny/fat. Don't believe us? Follow us on our social channels if you don't already. Thanks for watching!
It’s cool to finally see you guys testing at LACR.
@Davido50
2 жыл бұрын
Cali baby for life! #KTM #Maxima #Ford
This was very well shot. Those panning non-action shots look like a video game with hyper-realistic graphics. Well done.
Love it when we already know the position of each bike before the video.
I love people complaining about 3 of the 125’s being the same. At least they still make 2 strokes unlike some Japanese manufacturers…
@laidtorest387
2 жыл бұрын
Even if they are the same in my opinion they all look vastly different so im happy with that. The more 2 strokes the better!
@aidenmx821
2 жыл бұрын
I hate them because of the air forks and if you take a old Honda or Kawasaki 2 stroke it would still whoop the Austrian brands.
@rapscallion3421
2 жыл бұрын
You can blame the tree huggers in California for Japan pulling out of the 2 stroke
@seashackf1
Жыл бұрын
@@rapscallion3421 I blame Honda mostly, tree huggers were just a way to get what they wanted. Honda never liked 2t and only made them to compete in Mx in the 70’s. MotoGP switching to 4t had nothing to do with Cali. Honda is the main reason they were banned in MX and MotoGP. I hate Honda for what they did and I own two (03 CR250, trx400ex).
YAMAHA FOR LIFE! Love my 250
Awesome guy's Josh great review of 125 shoot out brilliant top man👍🤟❤️
I’d still pick the Yamaha only cuz I had an 05 and it took 2 years to blow the motor and I rode it almost everyday. Plus the exhaust tone sounds way better and it looks sick
Great view of track and mountains! That was different.
Great video guys. Let's see the exact same thing for the 250 2T! Thanks
I have been reading / watching this exact shootout since the late 70s, when Jody first started doing the box! I love it!
@samsneed8748
2 жыл бұрын
awesome someone with experience which 125 2stroke would you pick?
Yamaha YZ 125 is my favorite bike
Those honda valley shots look dope
GREAT TEST not quiet a full house but a comprehensive test on the four bikes that they had nice work . I ride a 2019 Sherco ser 125 and l like the bike in general after a few changes i.e. S3 pegs factory lowering link (20mm) lowered seat (20mm) gearing to suit hard enduro mid and top end power are awesome but it is a little hard to get it to snap off the bottom dew to what it seems to be heaver fly wheels which do work well for single track i tried to buy a ktm 150 but couldn't find one for love nor money so l gave the sherco a run and l have not been disappointed they certainly no how to build a great bike l cant wait till next test hopefully you guys can get a full house to test time cheers
Love seeing LACR…I know it’s further than GH, But it is a great track.
I'm super glad we've got 2-strokes to ride after the magazines bitched for years and nearly killed them (not all magazines but most). That said, it looks like we've got a good bunch to choose from. Since we not all pros, I would bet most of us would be happy with any one of these rigs; I know that I would. The eval? Well, sometimes I think a lot of these testers would bitch if you hung them with a new rope. I think there's something in there for everybody and the way we now personalize our bikes.....just how much real difference is there? Enough to sell magazines, I'd say................we'll see how they do at the races, not just the pros. It has been amazing how very good the original design was with just small updates. We'll see how good the new layout is as the year rolls by. There simply is no bike as fun as a responsive 125......they seem to weight nothing at all!!
@benvitale9881
2 жыл бұрын
I feel you need a test that tells all the positive not the negative😁🤙
@tomnekuda3818
2 жыл бұрын
@@benvitale9881 Nope, a fella needs both to help him begin to narrow it down. I'm nearly too old at 75 to ride but still am doing it. I used to ride the big 465s and 500's but now am down to smaller 2-strokes. But thanks and hang in there.
This is the lifestyle I want
Guau que excelente demostración de ambas motocicletas y muy buenos corredores yo me quedo con la Husqvarna claro aunque tiene mejor torque la Ktm saludos muchacho y les felicito muy buen video gracias por todas sus recomendaciones y explicación de cada motocicleta 🇵🇦🤝
Damn man. I guess I'll be getting another 2006 yz125 lol
THAT GAS GAS LOOKS SO SWEET .
They need to add the 125 class to the Nationals.
rad video!
Amazing video 😍😍
Such Sweet Sounds 👊 👍😉 Thnx MXA .. Appreciate ya Josh 😃
@barbarakramer6176
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes those are sweet sounds! And those views with all the Snowcapped mountains: San Bernardino? Barbie
And all 4 need new top ends after that day with those guys.
TEAM YAMAHA FOR THE WIN🦾
@jaredcannon429
2 жыл бұрын
it got last
🙏🙏🙏
Has anyone had trouble with the cranks on your 2022 ktm125sx? There's a recall on the cdi box but apparently their bottom ends are different this year. Anyone have info
I’ve heard the Yamaha has been having transmission problems and supposedly has a recall out for a spring or something. Does anyone know it has any other problems
@donalddonaldson7211
2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t heard of it
@tcmx712
2 жыл бұрын
@@donalddonaldson7211 kzread.info/dash/bejne/o3uI28qPec-feLw.html check the comments seems it's happening to alot of people and there is a recall on the detent spring 👍
@samoliverio7455
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you're buying an outdated Yamaha, that's the other problem 😂😂😂
@closedoutproductions
2 жыл бұрын
Yea to get the spring replaced in the clutch because some where slipping off, but they said it was highly unlikely that the spring would pop off
Almost 3hp difference on 125 is a lot, and yamaha is a brand new bike while ktm is like 5 years old
@boibus
2 жыл бұрын
Yamahas also way cheaper
My home track
I’m not going to lie I’m abit sad we’re the Yamaha placed , but it is what it is
no counterbalancer on ktm group 125….
Yamaha vs a bunch of ktms. Honda please please bring back the CR 2 stroke. Oh and Yamaha for life
also been reading about gearbox issues with the new YZ.
@sawsapo8901
2 жыл бұрын
i have one with 50h no problems
@yota4004
2 жыл бұрын
@@sawsapo8901 I have an 05 YZ125 with god knows how many hours. they are also know for gearbox failures but mine has been fine. how did you get 50 hours already on a new 2022?
@AUSTIN_457
2 жыл бұрын
@@yota4004 read about the premature crank failures people are experiencing with the Austrian bikes lol
@yota4004
2 жыл бұрын
@@AUSTIN_457 I have!
@sawsapo8901
2 жыл бұрын
@@yota4004 i have the bike since january i ride 2 day in the week...
Change your jetting on the yz125 to mimic yz250 will really clean it up.
Pls can u do a review on the 85cc gas gas
Sad that 3 of them are the same
@codenamenoob4973
2 жыл бұрын
I love KTM and I feel the same way, use to have a GASGAS 250 EC back when they where "GASGAS" sad to see them change into a red KTM and the husky to me is always gonna be a ugly slower KTM
If the gasgas has soft suspension, can you not just pit more pressure in the forks and rear suspension?
I'm a beginner rider in my late 30's almost 40 lol never ridden a bike idk why it's always been my dream I used to get cycle world magazine as a kid watch mx. I feel like I'm meant to be on a bike idk they nay be weird to say but I strongly feel I'm meant to ride. What should I get to start practicing and racing and also doing enduro?
heyyyyy thats the housepads lol
you guys bllow. my mind.....i was one of he first yamaha motocross racers.......we had ti build competitive. machnes.... whats more important to me....can yiou take rhat. yamaha. and modufy it to. beat. the other. bikes or. is it hopeless.....
Nice basically KTM vs Yamaha that’s it
Yamaha’s stock exhaust would look so much better if it were chrome like the other bikes...
I want both my subscriptions to your actual magazine
holy shakey cam. that intro speech could use a gimble or something.
110's on the rear?!
Sherco?
KX AND RM WHERE YOU AT
The title should read.. Yamaha vs Ktm.. 3 on 1 battle here..
Where are the tm and fantic 125
If you get an Apex head for a Yz125 you’ll be in business and hanging with Austrian bikes.
It is a shame Honda does not make a 2stroke anymore😭
Where's tm racing?
@fkhan577
2 жыл бұрын
wheres Fantic?
@realkilju
2 жыл бұрын
@@fkhan577 yeah. But its basically a yamaha yz
@goldmx1229
2 жыл бұрын
He talked about it in the intro
Imagine if Japanese manufacturers made 2T’s again… BESIDES YAMAHA. WE WANT THE HONDA/KAWI 2 strokes. These other machines can suck a choad.
@deeganjohnson1467
2 жыл бұрын
Why though, they still are invested in their riders enough to still make 2t’s so the only 4 stroke manufacturers can suck a choad if anything
@MxRider721
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally, thats why Yamaha and KTM won all the 125 shootouts and the rest did not.. 1996 …Yamaha YZ125 1997 …Yamaha YZ125 1998 …Yamaha YZ125 1999 …Yamaha YZ125 2000 …Yamaha YZ125 2001 …Yamaha YZ125 2002 …Yamaha YZ125 2003 …Yamaha YZ125 2004 …KTM 125SX 2005 …Yamaha YZ125 2006 …Yamaha YZ125 2007 …Yamaha YZ125 2008 …Yamaha YZ125 2009 …Yamaha YZ125 2010 …Yamaha YZ125 2011 …KTM 125SX 2012 …KTM 125SX 2013 …KTM 125SX 2014 …KTM 125SX 2015 …Yamaha YZ125 2016 …KTM 125SX 2017 …KTM 125SX
@seashackf1
Жыл бұрын
Honda is the one that pushed for the ban in Mx and MotoGP. KTM is the only one that continued to develop them. I’d prefer to support the one that has kept them alive vs the one that tried to kill them and I own an 03 CR250.
@jonathoncook8367
Жыл бұрын
@@seashackf1 well that’s just gay. I didn’t know that.
So Yamaha vs Austria
where is TM
every motorcross guy looks the same. like someone who is 16 but with a mustache
u guys can complain all u want about 3 of the same bikes, but at least ktm still makes big bike 2 strokes🤷🏽♀️ let alone innovating them with electric start, EFI, and a map switch for ‘23
is there rieju> ktm is the best also gas gas have diff brkas clutch susp and tuning and its less
Where is Tm and Fantic??
you forgot the TM 125mx! very competitive bike, very strong pull and quality components... the other bikes are easier to ride but once you understand the TM power dellivery you can't love them
Now the about the YZ 125.. the funny thing about this is that the lowly low horsepower Yamaha always wins the 125 Nationals expect more this year too.
Just came in my pants hearing that ktm
This is basically A 1v1 just three of them have different colored plastics
The fantic would have eaten them all
Don't believe the hype" Yamaha is the best bike there, and I witnessed a dyno on it...41+ horse power factory exhaust...factory everything! Great work boys! Great video! 👏💪🤙🇨🇦 I've always been a CR man myself!! But.....we know the story there! So I bought a YZ & KTM"😂✌️
@767dag
2 жыл бұрын
wow
@rapscallion3421
2 жыл бұрын
And we're supposed to believe you why?
@rfiskillingussoftly6568
2 жыл бұрын
Don't believe anything you hear, and believe only half of what you see" is my motto since I was 15 yrs old! 😂 I don't care if you don't believe me... I get it😂 I just hope your that critical about everything you see and hear cause we swim in a sea of lies! 😂
@rapscallion3421
2 жыл бұрын
@@rfiskillingussoftly6568 you're*
yz
Yamaha and KTM are so close it just comes to preference and price I'm YZ 125. Please Honda sneak into Yamaha 2stroke factory and take some notes please
where is the TM
@silly-xd8uq
2 жыл бұрын
watch the video
do you think we could get some old 125 in there too for the comparison? Please. 90s cr kx rm that make the line up look way better. looking a little too euro out there. i can hardly see that yamabopper they move to europe or something lol got contaminated with that ugly orange bar pad!
@sawsapo8901
2 жыл бұрын
motor head just did that...
@realkilju
2 жыл бұрын
@@sawsapo8901 when?
@RetLt116
2 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4SOs9JxmKuan9Y.html
EASILY picking Yamaha for keeping it hardcore with YZs and sport quads in this age of wackery
MXGP points table tells a different story. With minimal work the Yamaha is just as fast as a pumpkin. Nobody races stock bikes anyway.
It’s basically just a Yamaha and KTM comparison
Tester on the Husky click 4th(and it pulled him) to make the 100ft uphill triple at LACR. Thats impressive on a 125.
Does anyone know how much faster these bikes are than a KX-112, or CRF-150R ?
@landrytucker1108
Жыл бұрын
Night and day difference
Fantic?
@silly-xd8uq
2 жыл бұрын
watch the video
4:45 what ?? look at bar
How does one bike compare to the 20 year old yamaha. Hmm
This video could’ve been a lot shorter since there’s only two bike
Google 2022 KTM/Husqvarna/Gasgas 125 recall, and the ridiculous solution. Let’s see which of these bikes will be running after some hours on the engine…
Well, the yz450f or the yz300 MIGHT be the most fun yamaha even for a beginner. Surely not the 125 ………….. but this is a second hand cheapo
Take Japanese made any day!
WAKE UP HONDA!!!! BRING THE MIGHTY CR 125R BACK!!!!!!!!!😎
should have brought out a 96 cr for shits
Yamaha the best
Yamaha makes great work on bikes, racing and for customer. Test is Boring, seems 1 vs 1.... I make 3 Companies to sell 1 Product in different Colors. High price, and many pieces.... Why? Normally when they make many pieces its not so expensive.....people laughing about suzuki but ktm didn't change so much (only higher price)...
This video needs a longer intro and filler
P
Shootouts are pretty stupid. Especially when you see them flip flopping about opinions of pretty much the same freaking bike. KTM, Husky, and GasGas are the same damn bike, with interchangeable parts across the board. These 3rd tier pro riders opinions pretty much mean dick to me because if you have ever met one of these guys, all they do is complain that the track isn't perfect, and that the bike isn't setup for them. They want every bike to be exactly how they want it, and when it isn't they refuse to adapt any riding style to fit the machine. Their opinions don't apply to 99% of the consumer, yet they put these videos out with all of these meaningless opinions. If you are a pro rider you are definitely never taking a bike you haven't personalized, out on the track. So stop reviewing these bike like that. If you are a casual rider you probably won't hardly touch a clicker and won't even notice a difference between any of these bikes. If you are an enthusiast you probably have 5 or 6 different bikes, for 5 or 6 different purposes, and actually like differences in clutch feel, suspension settings, and power delivery, and adapt your riding to each bike. If you took the time to read this whole comment, the moral of the story is take every word of a pro rider shootout opinion with a grain of salt.
I'm 28 seconds in, wanna bet ktm wins? Edit: I was right. You guys still have some KTM on your chins
@andrewmcintosh3997
2 жыл бұрын
Best bike wins
Can you guys include descriptive terms and analysis? Read bike tests late 80s early 90s. They went into power characteristics, where bikes made their power, where were their advantages and disadvantages? What are they like to ride. Clutch, transmission, brakes, how do they work? Quoting lap times is useless to a viewer or reader. Describe. The ktm description sounded like a script or pamphlet. What is the low end, mid, and top like? Turning characteristics? Etc. Thank you.