I see Zenith not as copying as much as TAKING ITS TRUE PLACE BACK

I tought that he was just a cyborg with two human arms, and all the best watches in the world..but he is a real person! Ahah.. great job Tim

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Raul! Sean's human arm stands in for mine in this series. I wanted to get a wrist shot from a bigger guy who's more representative of the audience. Best, Tim

Love this series so much. Tim is as eloquent as ever. I have been trying to figure out if this is scripted or off the cuff or somewhere in between for as long as I have watched him. Either way, he is a huge asset and the best part about the WatchBox KZread channel hands down in my opinion. Thoughtful, thorough and straight up. Tim is the man.

Excellent review and I like your style! Factual, to the point and completely focused on your reviews without distractions! Keep up the good work, sir!

I own the white dial version and it is such a striking piece. Zenith's heritage is one of the most intriguing, part of me is glad that the admiration I have is not shared by the mainstream, not yet anyway

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

At least you won't be bothered by people looking to rob your wrist or assess your wealth when wearing the Zenith. The Rolex doesn't always invite the best kind of attention. Best, Tim

@mschumer

2 жыл бұрын

I have the black dial. I’m very proud to wear it. I run against the current. Lol! Yes, I would also enjoy a Daytona. Not for $38K. Give me retail or give me four great other watches!

Love the factual, no nonsense and precise comparison on here. As much as I enjoy the romanticism of watches, it’s always a pleasure to come here and get the technical specifications of these watches in clear manner. Nice work!

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Carl! I lose patience with the car and watch channels that are too infatuated with their own hosts or irrelevant sideshow gags to focus on the hardware. Best, Tim

@tyapka

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, 180 degrees opposite of the talking hands 😆

Love your work Tim. Clear and precise. Non biased which all reviews should be ! Looking forward to much more of your content moving forward.

What a wonderful review video! Thank you for all your passion and hard work!

Love this form of your content Tim...very Refined. Hope you'll do more like this. 👌🏽

Love the format and polished “studio” vid Tim. Keep them coming!

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Brian. We're going to continue this series and eventually expand it to include long-term reviews and comparisons. Best, Tim

@WonderfulFunky

2 жыл бұрын

Tim is a national treasure. Love this content!

Amazing content, Tim. Love the new, professional look!

This is the perfect video… loved it and hope for many more. Keep up the great work.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I love this format, and it was on my wish list for years. Now that the series is established, my goal is to find a way to boost its viewership. Best, Tim

Beautiful watch, original Daytons had zenith movements so not a copycat.

I like the new studio version video. Just a one thing to improve might be "watch on your 16cm circumference wrist" has to be shown more (from close and far). Just watch alone, it is hard to judge the style of the watch. Nice work!

Very well done. Having said that, I have the 41mm IWC Pilot's Chrono for Collective on the way. With luck I'll compare it side by side with this Zenith soon.

I totally agree with you. I am a big fan of Zenith.

Brilliant video Tim...In the UK it's more like a 10 year to never waiting list for a steel Daytona unless you are a big spender at your AD. Huge fan of that Zenith.

@cloud12274

2 жыл бұрын

I just picked up the new Starbucks sub today, and 1 month ago the new anniversary sea dweller. Should be getting the pepsi and white daytona next year. Mind u I had to buy a bi metal date just and a gold skydweller oysterflex before I was offered these

@medved4030

2 жыл бұрын

Australia too. You can end up waiting many years even forever on their waiting list. I heard it's better to purchase something on display at the AD maybe even another brand and become their customer and then ask about the waiting list? They may treat you more seriously as a loyal customer as opposed to say a rich chinese tourists that will purchase a watch and go back home. The market is a big problem huge demand little supply thats why used prices are a couple of grand more expensive than new pieces. The other issue is AD can't get their hands on the watches they/ their customers always want. i.e they are allocated to AD of the production randomly as I understood it.

Great video Tim, thanks.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Syl! Best, Tim

Tim is one of the people I’d love to have a drink with and just talk watches!

Just got this piece. It's beautiful.

Late to the game here but I just bought the Chronomaster Sport on a whim the other day, having tried one on my wrist in Las Vegas recently and immediately falling in love. Passing Cellini on Park Ave, I noted a Chronomaster Original in the window, and having just read something about it, when in to try it on: too small, too self-deprecating, too vintage. Then the Chronomaster Sport, and I remembered immediately that I was in love; and I bought it on the spot (now $11,000). And here's the thing: only then did I read up on it and realize that there was this huge controversy about its similarities to the Daytona. I'd seen articles on this watch at the time it came out, but frankly I thought the tri-color subdials were weird and unattractive, and I read no further. Then I saw it in Las Vegas and realize they turned me on. Anyway, I get my new Chronomaster Sport back home and check out the internet reviews, astonished to discover that all people want to talk about is whether it is a ripoff of the Daytona. Let me say this: I agree with this take, Tim, 100%, as you focus both on the fact that every great design is both imitated and has its own predecessors, and on the fact that the inside the case is a true original, which casts what's outside the case in a different light. I would add one point, which I've seen mentioned in one other review, which is that there are as many differences on the dials of these two watches as there are similarities -- the tricolor overlapping sundials most particularly -- and that the real reason they look so similar is simply the black ceramic bezel. If you compare the Chronomaster Sport to the Original, you see that this is true. Remove the inner black ring from the Original and put a dark ceramic bezel on it and you'd have another Daytona; and yet you accurately describe the Original as, well, entirely original. Here's one ironic element I'll add to this story: I have currently three watches plagued by the same "poor man's _______________" syndrome. In addition to the Chronomaster Sport, I own a GP Laureato chronograph with blue dial (Royal Oak) and a Glashutte Original Panoreserve (Lange 1). I love all three of these watches for how they look, and for how they look as distinguished from how their "siblings" look, and it bothers me only slightly that they are seen as drawing too closely from the family tree. Sigh.

Totally agree with you view on the date. I dont buy watches without a date. This is a grail watch for me. Either hibeat grand seiko or 36 el primero

Thanks for your expertise. I've always liked Zenith watches.

I'm getting the watch finders co vibe from Tim!

There would not be a Daytona without the El Primero

@Benji_Dunn

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

Zenith De Luca watch is a forerunner in many ways of the current Rolex Daytona. Zenith Sport is not an alternative to the Rolex Daytona; Zenith Sport is a Rolex Daytona competitor. Caliber In house, chronograph and sports, there are many watches that are at the same level; Chopard Luc Chronograph, Breitling Cronomat, Breguet Pilot 3817, Blacnpain Bathyscaphe chronograph, Tag Heuer Monaco and others ...

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

I liked the De Luca, but it was also the first thing I featured on my January show when the Zenith launched. The De Luca series was an early and clear-cut case of Zenith borrowing Rolex style for its own watches. Best, Tim

Great watch, for how I see it its greater competition comes from el primero open, they're basically a chronomaster sport variation from a different point of view

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

To be totally honest, this isn't the Zenith I would buy. I'd go straight for the caliber 3600 in the more original and compact Chronomaster Original package. Best, Tim

love this format

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for supporting my new project! Best, Tim

Back or white dial on the chronomaster?

“or wait three years on a waitlist” Three.

Rolex used El Primero movements in the Daytona for a long time and Zenith didn’t get much credit for it. Now Zenith takes back its pride with „borrowing“ the design from Rolex. It reignited the discussion about movements and this is where Zenith can shine.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

To be perfectly honest, Rolex deserves a lot of the credit for the 1990s Zenith-built caliber 4030. Speaking from a watchmaker's standpoint, Rolex's version of the El Primero was a huge upgrade with massive changes to the winding system, calendar, escapement, balance, hairspring, regulator, and chronometer adjustments. Yes, Zenith built that movement, but it was hardly a drop-in solution. Then Rolex's 4130 came out in 2000, and it is in some ways still superior to the newest El Primero 3600. Rolex worship online is tiresome, but it's still important to acknowledge there's a formidable engineering cadre in Geneva. Best, Tim

@Scorpionpat

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews Thanks for the heads-up, Tim! 👍🏻

Why don't companies like grand seiko and zenith not get the bracelet right?

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

1) Zenith doesn't make its own bracelets. 2) Grand Seiko is trying to hit a price point 3) Rolex spends more than either of the other two are willing in order to build outstanding bracelets. It wasn't always this way, but the Rolex bracelet revolution started with the 2005 GMT Master II and gradually came to include all models. Best, Tim

@misteratoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews Tim! Thanks for your thoughts. I learned something. Any recommendations on good bracelets for either?

The Daytona is my favorite watch bar none for look and what it represents to me. However, I think the Zenith is a much cooler watch.

That clasp tough. It ruins the whole watch for me.

It's got a classic El Primero dial and a distinct case, with a ceramic bezel. Not understanding why these are considered so similar. Granted, the bracelets are very similar.

100% agree.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for supporting the new show! Best, Tim

While I loathe the ridiculous price mark-up, there's no denying that the Daytona's design is more timeless and its proportions (40 by 12) are the pinnacle of wearability for a modern chronograph. For more wearable chronos you'd have to go to Patek. (I do own a JLC chrono with the same proportions and it's damn wonderful.)

@nobletype

2 жыл бұрын

The Daytona SS is actually 38.5mm

@sanghoonlee5171

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobletype That sounds even better

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

In person, I have to conclude that the Daytona is the better looking of the two. Aside from the originality issues with Zenith's design, it's chunky. The face-value 1mm size difference does not convey just how large the Zenith appears alongside the Rolex or on the wrist. Best, Tim

@GnrlZBenZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews Rolex is... always the better looking of them'all, nope ? But this Zenith... When someone likes the old shape of cases from Royal Oak's father of 80's, remembers the days when the Nautilus was just a steel watch, and reminds of the great age of the Rolex OysterQuartz, then this Zenith gets really awesome with its so chunky design !

@mschumer

2 жыл бұрын

Give……me……a……break. No one cared about the Daytona in its early days. They’re both good looking watches and the Zenith takes it with the movement. Would I like a Daytona? Sure but I’ll never get offered one at retail and I own five Rolex. Problem is I bought them grey. Actually not a problem. I’m not kissing ass to play the Rolex game. I told my AD I would like a Daytona. Thats it and nothing more. If I get one fine, otherwise I’m not doing anything else to increase my chances for a watch. I forget why I’m rambling anymore. 😂

What do you think of a Habring as an alternative chronograph?

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

A decent alternative. The Habrings always seem to wear large and chunky, so that's a consideration. Best, Tim

The finishing on the Zenith movement seems a little rough to me for the price point, is this a fair observation? Of course, any movement visible through the caseback is better than the blank slab of boredom on the back of the Rolex!

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

It's pretty standard for the price point and even quite a bit higher. The Rolex is no better, and that's at +$3,150 retail. Of course, we know what happens to that retail on the secondary market. Best, Tim

@jswede1

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews to be fair, we have no idea with the finishing on the Rolex movement looks like. But my money is on the zenith.

I like the the new format

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Alexander! I plan to shoot many more in this format with other high-profile watch models. Best, Tim

I would take the zenith over the Rolex any day.

where is the new b01 packed breitling premier in the alternative list?

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

The number of excluded alternatives is longer than the list I included. We just run out of time, and this eight-minute video already was longer than I'd prefer for a video in this series. Best, Tim

excellent show, the only thing zenith needs to overcome is the brand snobs

How do you think the Tudor chronograph compares to these watches? For half the price of the Zenith it seems like a great alternative to both of these iconic watches.

@vertugallery7099

Жыл бұрын

Nowhere close to the Zenith. Sorry but....

I LOVE that Zenith. I just wish it was in a sub-40mm size.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely consider the Chronomaster Original. It's 38mm and somewhat chunky, so it winds up feeling like the 40mm Rolex. Best, Tim

From all the watches you showed to us I will choose the jlc you wear.

Settle once, buy twice. I felt that in my soul.

I like this, "Collector's Take."

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Peter; many more will follow! Best, Tim

Rolex is the father.... except Daytonas pre automatic used Valjoux hand wind movements and then Zenith movements for the first 12 years of their automatic existence until Rolex finally figured out how build their own. Will you ever see Zenith use a rolex movement? nope, because Zenith know what they are doing.

@hodb3906

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Rolex may be the "father" but everyone knows that the El Primero made the Daytona and not the other way around. I honestly just love Zenith even more with this watch just because of how much it clashes with the Daytona. After a miserable failure with the Valjoux movement. The "ingenuity" of the 4030 caliber where the horde was ready to praise it since it was "based" on the zenith 400 caliber. The amount of times the fanboys cope that Rolex "modified 50% of the movement" is just so laughable. Which makes it ironic when they accuse Zenith of "copying" while spuwing out that Rolex "modified" their movement. Sure, let's take a look at these "modifications": - from a regulator to a free sprung movement - from 36000 to 28800 bph - half bridge to full bridge balance - removing the date function. Aaaaand, that's pretty much it. They " modified 50% " by removing 50% of the movement. Even the chronograph was still laterally integrated lol. I feel like Zenith is taking the piss to an even further extent by implementing a ceramic bezel to this watch to upset the fanboys even further.

Every feature of the Chronomaster Sport is one that Zenith has used in the past, just not in this combination. It could almost be argued that Rolex copied Zenith, but just has better press. The bracelet, just like the oyster, is pure Gay Freres. I'll agree, this implement of the bracelet is dreadful, definitely buy on a strap and save yourself the money. Zenith makes wonderful straps and this watch truly shines on a strap. I've said before, but it bears repeating, I looked at the Daytonas in an AD the day before I ordered the Zenith. The Daytona left me saying, "meh," but the Zenith, it tugs at my heartstrings. If someone were to compliment me on my "Rolex," I'll look them in the eye and correct them (kindly). Zenith had history when Hans Wilsdorf was still trying to come up with a name. :-)

7:51 Yes, for a quarter of the price but do you still say that if you compare MSRP to MSRP (and not consider resale value as a factor)? I would like your opinion on the merits of the watches themselves at MSRP...and also taking out price entirely. I already have these watches in my collection but I'm still curious. Thank you.

@hodb3906

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-dr4mw This makes no sense. Define the parameters for the quality of the movement and how does the quality between the two differ? " columweel feel " ?? Anti-magnetism? Toughness engineered into it, tougher watch? I presume you were there when they engineered both watches? The "features you don't have on Zenith" are simply because of the movement. " Longer power reserve " - It's a 5 hZ movement which are more energy consuming. " Full balance bridge and free-sprung balance " - because it's a pin regulated balance since a free-sprung balance at 5 hZ is impossible without direct impulse. Unlike the new 9SA5 caliber from Grand Seiko which made free-sprung 5 hZ escapement possible. There is no need for either full balance bridge nor free-sprung. 5 hZ are still more accurate and retain it longer due to shorter amplitudes. " smooth vertical clutch engagement " - Have you ever operated the Chronomaster sport? Because it's just as smooth. That little bump from a lateral clutch is practically non-existent since the outer hand measures the tenths of the second. Now here are the "features" you don't have on a daytona. - 5 hZ oscillation. - Tenth second accuracy - date function - no useless tachymeter - no grey market hassle nor paying twice retail to get topped by flippers nor ADs - no half decade waiting lists Nor do I remember when Zenith was dependent on others their movement (cough cough Valjoux cough cough). Nor do I remember Zenith being dependent of Rolex for their movement. Before you even think about saying that Rolex " modified " 50% the movement, they pretty much removed the date function, changed theirs into a 4 hZ full bridge free sprung balance and changed the oscillating weight. So much for " modifying 50% " of it. So much for " originality " either because it was definitely the looks of " copying the Daytona " that made the El Primero famous and not the fact that it was one of the first high beat movements automatic chronographs. Answer me this: If it was the looks and the " copying " of Zenith then how come the first El Primero watches were popular on release while the Daytona wasn't ? Seems strange, doesn't it? But you do you mate.

@Webb_Master

2 жыл бұрын

@@hodb3906 Facts

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

At MSRP, I'd rather have the Rolex. But I've already come out in favor of the Rolex in this dedicated comparison video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYt_lauOmsi4aNY.html Best, Tim

Zenith was good enough to be used by Rolex on the Daytona in the first place. For nostalgia purposes, I think the Zenith is the better. If you can ball out, by all means grab a Daytona. Really love having that date though 👌

@louisbrandt5386

Жыл бұрын

People get this a little twisted - Zenith did not and does not need Rolex to validate its superiority over that brand. Lest we forget, if Rolex were so good why were they going cap in hand to esteemed watchmakers for movements they did not have the faculty to make for themselves? This is but one example of the Rolex effect, another is that Rolex owners think their watch is “better” because it cost more - take the label off it and then compare it, you will often come up short, very short.

The date makes it a no go

😳 Tim is real!

Didn't you make a versus of these two recently and gave the win to the Daytona?

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

I did, but this show was about giving the spotlight to the Zenith. Rolex gets tons of dedicated press, so I wanted a show that was maybe 20% Rolex and 80% Chronomaster. Initially, I considered not even featuring the Rolex in this segment. While I've already shot a dedicated Collector's Guide with a Daytona, I still came to the conclusion that you can't shoot a feature with this Zenith and not mention the elephant in the room: Rolex resemblance. Best, Tim

Like for the date. Otherwise - too much rolex. Zenith could do more of their own thing. Another great alternative would be PF Tonda GT Chronograph - panda version is very Rolex without being one, unlike Zenith:)

I would have bought that beauty without the screws on the back !!

0:55 20% what? I have both the black and white SS Daytonas but I couldn't resist purchasing the white dial Chronomaster Sport. Now I'm considering the black dial on a strap. I need help.

@hollihenfling

2 жыл бұрын

Le Locle (where Zenith comes from)

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollihenfling Thank you Holger, spot-on. BEst, Tim

@JorgeAndreWan

2 жыл бұрын

@@hollihenfling I used to live in Le Locle, an ugly place as f**k. Zenith was 5min from my place by foot.

I prefer Zenith El Primero by hours.

How much zenith. .

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

These are $10K on the bracelet and $9.5K on the strap. Best, Tim

And the Hydrox was actually the original!

No

Yeah unfortunately the daytona wears a lot better with the thinner case and lighter weight.

If a Chinese company made a this close copy of a swiss watch we'd all be here screaming , why is it OK when another swiss company does it? Lotus used a Toyota engine. It doesn't give Toyota the right to make a Lotus clone. It doesn't matter how good the movement is. Zenith should have made their own design.

2:21 "Zenith Daytona clasp"??

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

That basically sums it up. This Zenith's bracelet feels like one from a 1990s Rolex 16520 El Primero-powered Daytona. Check out Rolex caliber 4030 if it doesn't register. Best, Tim

Man this script writing, you're a world heritage at this point mate

No paternity suit necessary, we know the father! LMAOOO

When i think about chronometer sport watch with a real style and an icon, my mind brings me "one and only" Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch. No overpriced Rolex Daytona or busy dial Zenith (Although i do adore Zenith brand and their movements) but refined and iconic looking Speedy.

Why does he have sunglasses on his head?

Zenith won in the movement, but the others are taken by Rolex.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

And I'd consider that a Rolex win. 90% of our purchase decision is driven by style. If not, this Zenith wouldn't look like a Rolex. Best, Tim

I would get A386 no matter what

What? Tim is in the screen. He’s just a boy! 😂

It won watch of the year didn’t it, no I would prefer a Daytona

Love this watch,but could you live with it not being the Daytona

@louisbrandt5386

Жыл бұрын

@George Lee this may come as a big shock to you but not everybody wants to wear or own a Rolex and some people will appreciate that this is better in a number of ways.

Rolex improved.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Many more to come in this series! Best, Tim

Do you think Rolex can sue Zenith for patent or design infringement?

@garyboyle695

2 жыл бұрын

Why because it has three sub dials and black bezel. Rolex were the first with neither.

@gmshadowtraders

2 жыл бұрын

@@garyboyle695 1:20 - "Taking a look at Zenith, you can see from head-on, obviously Rolex".... Please don't assume I have no basis for my statements. Me and Tim go way back. We know our shit.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

No. There's too much outright Rolex design piracy taking place on a million cheap watches made in the far east. Zenith would just point to all the times Rolex failed to police its patents, and any court would agree that a claim against Zenith would be untenable based on Rolex's track record. With Rolex, you're far more likely to get sued if you attempt to pirate an engineered solution. That's the kind of stuff that far eastern knockoffs wouldn't be able to manage and only large Swiss OEMs would have the capacity to attempt. Thus, Zenith is in the clear to cop the Daytona style, but God help them if they try to copy Rolex's escapement architecture or hairspring alloy. Best, Tim

Who cares about the bracelet I wear it with the blue bracelet 😉✌🏻

If it hadn't been for Zenith, the Daytona would have died decades ago. So who owes whom?

Love your reviews but 2 16 second ads on KZread that you can’t skip??? Are you guys that short of cash?

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to turn those off. Everything on Watchbox Reviews is supposed to be non-monetized, but my production team loads this video file, and they aren't aware that I never monetize this channel. WB Studios is a different matter, but I don't have full control over that one. Best, Tim

@jonathanstallickhomeopathy

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews classy response! Thanks so much Tim.

The Rolex with so many words on it….. why?

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

Only they know. What's the point of having the most recognizable watch designs in the world if you feel the need to blanket them with branding? Best, Tim

@jswede1

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews side by side the zenith oozes class by comparison. Shame, really. Great work, Tim.

She bought Hydrox because they were cheaper than Oreos. ROFLMAO.

@the1916companywatchreviews

2 жыл бұрын

And they would sit forever in between my visits to Grandma's house. Unlike wine, cookies don't improve with age. Best, Tim

What is a counter torque screw and what specialised tool is needed to remove the links in bracelet. Simple jobs made difficult never cease to irritate me 😡

i can't imagine the disappointing feeling of inheriting an "family heirloom" zenith instead of a rolex.

All great BUT, I’ll take the Daytona 10 out of 10 times…

@eldiabolico3750

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-dr4mw I’ve bought all my Rolex watches at retail price in Wempe.

@eldiabolico3750

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-dr4mw I don’t find it horrible (except the clasp), they’re trying to appeal to those customers on the “waiting list” based on their own history and heritage. Ps. The waiting list isn’t real IF you spend a substantial amount of money per year.

@eldiabolico3750

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-dr4mw buying new Rolex at retail price isn’t stupid at all, it’s a matter of choice and basically…. availability. People buy used Rolex watches close to retail price if not higher… in my case, all my watches have gone up in value and used they cost more than what I paid, especially my Batgirl and GMT Master II. Daytona is coming next year for my 50th birthday. What you’re saying is indeed applicable to many other brands including high Uber expensive giants but not Rolex, Patek or AP. I wouldn’t pay crazy money for Breitling for example and a few Omegas (my SM 25th anniversary was selling 1K less in the grey market the day I bought it). HOWEVER, some people - like myself - prefer to have the experience of buying luxury goods at the official dealer even if that means paying full price AND even more importantly, to cultivate a relationship with benefits, like the non-existing “waiting list”. Also, I personally believe a watch is a ver PERSONAL item and I don’t find it especially attractive to wear someone else’s possession, even if it’s clean and polished.

@eldiabolico3750

2 жыл бұрын

@@Alexander-dr4mw Nomos are interesting watches, especially the Autobahn ;)

@mschumer

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, that’ll be $400,000 please.

Pls don’t butcher the French language next time…

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