Thx for posting. My Ninja SX is arriving next week. Had a long testride before and drove Z900 with a very similar engine for three years. My buddy owns a Tracer 900 so I think I can also add some comments comparing the two. First of all I agree with everything you stated. In addition: I think the Kawa has the better engine with even more torque and is running smoother. As we do not have speed limits on the German Autobahn (at least big parts of it) I can state that the Kawa has better high speed stability above 200 km/h and is less noisy. The Kawa likes to go fast and is solid as a rock up to max speed (250 km/h). The tracer is less stable but handles better in tight corners. A big plus for the Yamaha is that you can stand up while driving if your butt starts to hurt or you knees need a little movement. With the sporty seating position on the Kawa this is not possible. On the other hand the slightly forward tilt seating position on the Ninja prevents my spine from hurting in contrast to the very upright adventure bike position on the Tracer. Both are excellent bikes and are in my oppinion more reliable than the European brands that also have extremly high service costs at the workshop. My KTM 890 Adventure R regular services cost more than double than my Z900. Greetings from good old Germany and ride save!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

You are right on the money. I didn’t bother putting in my z900 experience, but yes, these Kawasaki bikes have the handling dialed in and the power is better everywhere except from a dead stop. Thanks for your comments.

I have both z1000sx 2015 and Tracer 9GT 2022. SX has better engine, feels more connected, after a couple of hours i start to feel my knees, leaning forward position makes me tired, passenger comfort is awful, mirrors are terrible. Tracer feels much lighter and more nimble, upright riding position is great, wind protection, mirrors, passenger comfort - way better. Engine is fun. It doesn't throw you forward after 6k like Kawasaki's, but it is fast and fun feels nice. Z1000sx is 70/30% sportbike/tourer, where Tracer is 20/80%. Tracer 9 wins hands down as a all-rounder.

I have a z750 and a Honda nc750x and I was wondering what bike should upgrade between the ninja 1000sx and the tracer 9 GT. What bike is more comfortable for long rides in your opinion ? Thanks 👍

thanks for putting time making this video

Great video fellow Albertan! I'm in this exact conundrum right now but think I will put an offer on the nice 1000sx at a Calgary dealer tommorow.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

You won't be dissapointed.

Thanks for posting. This is an interesting comparison because it’s not exactly apples to apples comparison but i like the perspective here. Both great bikes, both powerful and comfortable but in a different way. Difficult choice, need bigger garage for both bikes...

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Just thought that I would post as I’ve owned both machines in earlier models, and although the manufacturers have added the new tweaks the bikes are still remarkably close to their predecessors. Thanks for watching.

Always down to earth views, and doesn’t eat the manufacturers PR bs for lunch. Very refreshing.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Douglas.

I agree with your review. I have a 2022 Tracer in the UK. Where I live the roads are mostly small country roads which suit the Tracer well. Its so easy to throw around and change direction compared to a traditional sports tourer. I rode a Suzuki GSX1000GT demo on the same roads and the Suzuki suspension felt cheap and underdamped. Where the Kawasaki and Suzuki win out is on larger higher speed roads Where the more prone position is much better. The original screen on the Tracer is horrible, it creates masses of turbulence at high speed and being bolt upright it's difficult to find a screen which helps this situation. In town and country roads its fine, but faster open roads are a nightmare for me. I also agree with the slightly disconnected feel from the front of the Tracer compared to a Z1000SX. I'm really happy with the Tracer and I've realised that there's not a perfect bike. The Tracer comes close in most areas and the potholes round here are so bad I'm thankful of the Tracers suspension. I suppose it depends what type of riding you do the most. For me the Tracer suits really well, but if I did more touring I'd buy the Z1000SX. Cheers for the review 👍

This review was confusing. What was the comparison? With the 900 GT or the 9 GT?

Funny after almost 2 weeks of watching youtube videos about the Ninja 1000SX, this is the latest upload... my top choices are 1. Multistrada 950S 2. Tracer 9 3. Ninja 1000SX 4. Tiger 900 RallyPro Just got my brand new Ninja1000SX just 3 hours before you uploaded this. 😁 Comfort/Speed/Specs/Value for money were the reasons I got the Ninja.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

It’s really hard to beat if you don’t need 2 up touring. You can do the 2 up touring, but it’s no where near the comfort and convenience the more adventure bikes. You will really love your Ninja, it’s really the complete package.

@armandblake

3 жыл бұрын

Took it for a test ride today... crazy. 1000cc, 230kilos and don't feel it at all. It's a bike to marry

When I saw your riding jacket and helmet I was sure you'd chose the Yamaha :o) I didn't ride the Yamaha so can't make a comparison, all I can say is that I will be keeping my Ninja for many years. When I bought it I paid an additional 300 euro and had 2 years extra full warranty, which I now think I won't be needing as it feels so well made and solid as a rock.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I own a Tracer and XSR. My bike before those 2 was the ninja. The only reason I changed was the value the yammies had (and the-look of the XSR). If the ninja would have had the features it has now and the price the Tracer had last year, I wouldn’t have switched.

I was going through this exact comparison and chose the 1000SX. The bike really fits me and my riding style. Rode 400 miles the day I picked her up.

@sixthisoverdrive

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant bike. The only things I’d want are easy access to the oil drain and filter. Just so the oil changes were easier.

@MarvFitBikesKicks

Жыл бұрын

how is it treating you so far?

@paulbercot6941

Жыл бұрын

@marvelousmarv89 going great. Coming up on 15,000 miles. Have (2) 1,000 mile days so far and lots of fun trips.

@MarvFitBikesKicks

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbercot6941 good to hear in the long range comfort which is what I’m concerned about with the looks of the seating position. Knees appear to be high but I’ll have to sit on the bike get a feel of it for sure. I’m coming from a Harley fat bob but I’m pretty much done with harley so I’m looking elsewhere and have landed on the sport touring category to suit my needs and the 1000sx seems to be the one so far

@drifter-indian1448

7 ай бұрын

​@paulbercot6941 was looking for this comment. Currently have FJ-09 and was thinking about going to Tracer GT next year, but I like the look of Kawa better. Only thing stopping me was the fact that i have not ridden kawa on for all day rides. Looks like you have and it felt good? I have an Indian scout bobber for around town relaxed rides, FJ-09 is for out of town long extended trips, hopefully Kawa 1000sx will fit my need (already fits the looks requirements)

I rode a buddy's Tracer around d for a bit, and I found the riding position to be strange. The seat is really tall, but it felt like the windscreen was designed for someone around 5'8" (I'm 5 10), and i kept hitting the the passenger foot peg with my heel, like it was designed for someone with small feet.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

2 of the weird anomaly’s that Yamaha needs to address with this new model and I think they did. That windshield doesn’t work for anyone lol

@lovelessissimo

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but I think the Tracer 900 could have been designed based off of the aversge size of the locals, if you know what I mean... And from what I heard, they at least fixed the foot peg issue. Nice to see that some manufacturers listen to their customers.

Your video helps buddy. I have an Xsr900. Rode a gs 1200 prior to the pandemic. Once borders open I need a touring bike. Always loved the Ninja. It’s a balance of power & added weight which I prefer for touring. The ninja’s only slight downside is the top box option. I’ve never seen it. As of now I choose the ninja, the tracer 9 new dash destroyed it for me , I prefer your Gt’s dash. I do not like green though. I should be able to decide in a year 🙏🏼

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

You really can’t go wrong with either, but if you want to carve the canyons the ninja will feel like more of the right tool. Good luck on deciding.

@rajindarsingh1417

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive thanks buddy 🙏🏼

@nickthequick

3 жыл бұрын

A top box set-up is just too ugly for words, plus people tend to fill way too much weight in them (should not hold much more than a helmet) making the bike unstable at higher speeds. A top box is after all placed behind the rear wheel. As my wife does not enjoy riding (yeah!) I opted for a tailpack, the Oxford T40R which zips right on and off my Ninja 1000SX. I have a picture of the full set-up at the very beginning of my video "Alcaniz - Route N-211"

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Nick The Quick thanks for the tips. I once had a top box on a tiger 800 XX and it changed the handling a lot, which makes sense as manufacturers typically try to get the weight low and centralized. The only reason I had it was to take my wife and kids out for rides. I don’t do that anymore so there is really no use.

I pick up my brand new 2020 tracer 900gt on Saturday in part thanks to your reviews. Still no 2021 in Japan, but I think I like the look of 2020 more and have no need for the majority of the updates

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I still don’t think there will be much difference.

@KairyuRider

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive seems to be the reviews from Europe so far. It better but not worth the upgrade. I'll keep my 4000 Canadian in savings for mods

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Kairyu Rider one thing I know is, you’re going to enjoy it.

@KairyuRider

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive thanks, I'm very excited

I was in the same boat. I brought a Ninja 1000. The points you mentioned are very much valid. The Ninja feels lot more connected and that engine is just mind blowing. Tracer too is an amazing bike.

@sixthisoverdrive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for weighing in.

Tracer is more fun, a little edgier, if.....that’s what you want. Kawasaki phone connection is pants. I still cant get used to tracer light front end from being so upright,, but I love it for its throw about ness (no panniers) and it can be a great laugh. Tours very well, so two bikes in one for me. Kawasaki s feels like a bikes I rode 10 years ago, which is no bad thing.

I don't have to watch the entire video to answer the question. Many years ago I had a Kawasaki H1-D I fell in love with triples. Hands down I love the smoother (less vibration) running and unique sound from a triple. So I'll go with the Tracer!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t lose...it’s a great bike.

@Noxxys

3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean that a triple is smoother than an in-line 4? I would expect it to be the other way around.

I find the 1000 Versys may b a better comparison for the Tracer ???

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

100 % yes. I have not owned a versys however. Thanks for the suggestion though.

im looking at a 2021 Ninja 1000sx this weekend the Yamaha 900GT is not in showrooms in the USA :(

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Yamaha is short on these bikes especially in North America.

As an owner of the 900GT and the Ninja 1000sx, and extensive test rides of the Z1000Sx and the 9GT, I can pretty much agree with your decision, though perhaps with a different weighting on factors. The Z1000SX was my practical poster bike, I just adore the styling, but just couldn't take to the handling. The 900GT was cheaper and a triple (was coming from Triumph Street 765) and CC et al, I chose it over the SX. Within a month I just wanted rid of the Yamaha. Awful fit and finish, every component looks like some cheap chinese knock off. A plethora of different screens still resulted in head pounding buffeting. Worst fueling I have ever known on any bike. Terrible interface and jog wheel. As soon as the Ninja 1000SX was anounced, I couldnt wait for covid restrictions to lift to see if Kawasaki had addressed most of the minor gripes I had with older model... and boy did they. Apart from the centre stand (now have lift in workshop), it really is close to my ideal bike. Electric smooth fueling, quality components and equally good finish. Possibly the best dash on the market even without all the fancy integrations some now have. I still love her as much 18 months on and though my gaze may be turning towards the new Suzuki GT, I honestly cannot see any bike replacing the Ninja for quite some time. Perhaps a Versys 650 to sit next to her and take some of the Winter commuting battering, but then again perhaps not.

@sixthisoverdrive

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for weighing in Bob

So rn i have the ninja 650 and I tested both of those bikes 2023 the ninja gave me an safe feeling what I already comfortable with but the tracer I loved the way I sat and I still cant decide witch one… I want to ride more but the ninja1000 gave me the experience that I was riding a motorcycle (fastness) CAN SOMEONE HELP ME

@sixthisoverdrive

11 ай бұрын

With these 2 I would pick the style and ergos you want. Performance wise and budget wise are pretty close. If you have a passenger I would go tracer.

I dont have to do anything with the fairing to do an oil change on my 1000sx

@sixthisoverdrive

Жыл бұрын

Awesome.

Hi, you didn't mention the electronic front suspension on the tracer 9 GT! Maybe they could help to be more "sport" when needed and more "tourer" for long trips than the old tracer 900 even if won't be as sport as the ninja..

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

It probably will. The ninja has a road and sport mode as well.

@dariozanni8085

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive yes but the behaviour of the suspensions won't change until you use a screw driver

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Yes that is true. Quick and easy.

@douglasalexander4348

3 жыл бұрын

Dario. You can soften the old Tracers suspension by turning both fork screws anti-clockwise a few clicks. Takes less than a minute.

One thing to also consider is insurance, through TD the 1000sx is nearly 150 per month, but the suzuki gsx1000 gt (nearly the same bike) is only 80 per month.

I think it is a fair comparison ...i like the tracer's over all look a lot. I would consider it as a 2nd bike to my 2020 ninja 1000sx, however, 1 headlight illuminated for low beam on the yamaha; that turned me completely off!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I think my ninja was one at low beam also, but that was 6 years ago.

Very good review... both bikes are very close. I prefer the full fairing myself for better weather protection on my lower body

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for weighing in. The fairing does help the turbulence as well.

@dmandhelen

3 жыл бұрын

Theses bikes are totally different.. how can you say they’re very close .??🤔🤔🤔😁😁😁

@douglasalexander4348

3 жыл бұрын

Until it gets hot...You can wear windproof trousers for cold, but your stuck with fairings when it’s hot.

@douglasalexander4348

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmandhelen He says at the beginning they’re both very different dumbass. It was which one he thought best that was close.

@dmandhelen

3 жыл бұрын

@@douglasalexander4348 I’m sorry for getting it mixed ...and being a “ dumbass”🥱🥱🥱🥱 I suppose the title and the video made me think he was comparing them that’s all ..🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️... how wrong I was !!🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cool vid bro💯‼️

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Ben getting some flack because it wasn’t a test ride, it’s great to get some positivity.

@SYOTOS86

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive bro you will always get heat on videos... impossible to please everyone 💯‼️ keep pushing your content 🤘🤘🤘

Makes no sense. Tracer 900 GTis a complete different bike compared to the Tracer 9 GT.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your opinion, but I agree and disagree. The horsepower and torque are not going to make up the difference between the 2 bikes, and by looking at the riding position on the Tracer, it’s quite obvious that this bike is not going to handle the same as the ninja. I believe Yamaha will improve slightly but with the upright ergos it’s still going to be more tuned to a more nimble quicker steering machine than the Kawi. The Kawi will feel more settled and precise. Even when a bike makes a change like this they don’t throw away the general character.

Now do the Suzuki GSX-S1000GT

@williammahaffy4642

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, yes please (great comparison, BTW!) I am furiously debating between the S1000GT and the 1000SX. Can't get my hands on either one of them to compare the fit&sit but impatiently waiting for product to arrive to US east coast region. I tried several Yam Tracer9GTs (just to be sure) and, for me, the seat was god-awful uncomfortable. It was a dealbreaker. I suppose I could get a custom after-market seat but I have just kept looking. If you do a comparison of the Kawa and Zook, I'll weigh in on which one I bought and why. Great Vid!

thank you for the no bull ish numbers, now i have negotiating power

@sixthisoverdrive

Жыл бұрын

I hope that works for you.

I'll watch this again in St Patrick's day just to prove you wrong

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I hope you remember!

Kawi for the inseam challenged guy with a hip issue. Just couldn't clear the Tracer's seat.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure about the 2020 seat on the Kawi, but my ninja was literally the most comfortable seat I’ve had. When you first sat on it, it was solid and I was sceptical but after a few hundred miles it was still feeling great. Thanks for watching.

Why doesn't anybody mentions the heat coming out from the Kawa 1000 SX. I had a model 2016 and it produced a whole lot of heat. The reason why i selled the bike, despate the fact that it is a fatastic riding machine. Does the new model produces as much heat???

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I never noticed that it was that bad. Maybe I didn’t ride it on as hot of days.

Now im even more confused. I had almost decided for the 2021 tracer 9 gt. But now im thinking about the kawasaki again. Damn this choice is though…

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

It is. They are so close in performance, but so different in feel.

@motorcyclemichael2182

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me…tough choice I guess I need to go sit on both, if they’re ever in stock

The ninja is not cheaper when you factor in the luggage - I'm still trying to decide myself!

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

It is exactly 900 dollars cheaper here in Canada. The prices I quoted were from he dealer. What country are you purchasing your next bike? That could be the reason. Thanks for watching.

@Mentatstrategy

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive My mistake actually - it is pretty comparable. I've been doing so much shopping, got my numbers confused, doh! Makes my decision that much harder.

I own the 2014 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 and I love it!!!

@sixthisoverdrive

2 жыл бұрын

I miss my 2010. Thanks for commenting

I would tend to agree......until I look at the insurance rates here in Ontario. Tracer 9 GT $1300, Ninja 1000 SX $2700. They charge as much for the 1000 SX as they do the H2 SX. Ridiculous. Over time, the Tracer 9 would come out cheaper, at least for me.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a pretty big consideration.

I agree with you. It is of course a personal choice. I own the ninja.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 ай бұрын

Nice.

Do you still own your XSR900?

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Sure do, it’s parked right behind me in the opening.

@abysal311

3 жыл бұрын

Nice video! How does the knee riding position compare from the XSR vs the Ninja 1000? I have a XSR900, but looking to get a Ninja 1000sx as a long range sports tourer, but worried about too much knee bend for longer rides... getting old ... 🤭 I also have a 07 R6, and can do 2-3 hours or so on that, but definitely not a full day. I can do a full day on the XSR.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

abysal311 actually it’s more bent than either of the Yamahas. Funny thing is that no one complains. I didn’t find it bad at all and I was doing 800 km days. Everyone who rode it thought it would be bad when first getting on, but they all changed their minds after riding it. The reviews say the same. It’s no where near the knee bend of a r6.

@abysal311

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive Sold! Yeah I definitely want one now! ha! Thanks for the reply!!

@douglasalexander4348

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive weird, I found the Kawa a lot more knees up ? An XSR and SX is a heck of a combo. That’s my plan now I’ve sold my big tourer. I loved the xsr but tracer was more versatile.

The Yamaha is significantly lighter weight but the Nnja has significantly more beans...the weight may be a small thing to some but personally I love light weight....not only that but practically every day I have to push motorcycles around to get my car in and out of the garage and every pound becomes painfully in evidence lol

Ninja 1000sx. great bike

Top

The direct competitor of the Tracer 9 is the Versys 1000, not te Ninja,😉

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

You are 100 percent correct. I was getting more requests for the ninja comparison and I owned a a recent iteration of the ninja. That’s why I chose those 2. Thanks for your comments.

@douglasalexander4348

3 жыл бұрын

Cottero...Not really. The Tracer is a very sporty tourer, as is the SX. The Versys is more tourer than sports in feel.

@angahsham-ou1uu

Жыл бұрын

No.. but versys 900

Looking at these two bikes now and insurance eliminated the Ninja for me. Its an extra $500 a year than the Tracer.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

That’s crazy, I never checked that here. I can’t see why that would be other than they may be classifying the word ninja as aggressive, or maybe because it breaks the 1000 cc barrier. Thanks for sharing.

@Gofr5

3 жыл бұрын

Even worse in my case. The Ninja is exactly twice the price of the Tracer in insurance in my area (ie an extra $1300 a year for the Ninja). Reason being the Ninja is being given the sport toy tax but the Tracer isn't. To make it even worse and more stupid, they are charging the exact same rate for the Ninja as they do the H2 SX. How they came up with that is beyond me.

@Noxxys

3 жыл бұрын

@@Gofr5 Same for me in the Netherlands, Europe. The Tracer is in the touring category, while the Ninja is in the sport category.

This is the old tracer not the new 2021

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

The video is about the 2021 Tracer, however, I currently ride a Tracer 900GT and am interested in the differences. I have added "OPINION" in bold letters so hopefully, it clears it up for others. Thanks for your comments.

You say you are comparing a Tracer 9 with the Ninja 1000, but you are not. The video shows you riding a tracer 900, and I don't think you even own the Ninja. You are likely extrapolating info from yesterdays models. The only thing that is truly accurate in this review is the prices from the dealer. So, I would advise anyone to take this 'review' with a grain of salt and go test ride both bikes, as this is more like a group of people speculating over coffee.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Your welcome and encouraged to go ride both bikes. I wouldn’t buy either without a ride to see which suits me more. The information in this video will be spot on, I took my time making it and put pride in my 50 plus years of experience. If it helps people, great. Thanks for your comments.

No centre stand is the deal breaker for me

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

It is substantial. Only issue is that that center stand has touched down on me in a corner and there is no give. You can file down the stoppers.

@motorcyclemichael2182

2 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive or slow down and not lean so far-lol 😂

im in uk and those prices are ridiculous , price is about same

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Lol. That exchange rate really messes things up.

But in china 1000Sx is 34482CAD without sidebag and VAT tax . Trace 9 gt is 25986CAD just because of the displacement tax ,1000cc is a limit bike bigger than 1000cc will be imploded 50% of the bike

@sixthisoverdrive

Жыл бұрын

Crazy!

Seriously who is using a cruise control?! Maybe my grandpa? Even on my car I don't use it... The good choice between these two bikes would be more about engine...

@sixthisoverdrive

2 ай бұрын

I put on pretty straight roads, where you don’t have curves for 100s of miles. This makes the a huge difference.

Like its predecessor, the T900GT, the T9GT is just plain fugly. And the MSRP price tag of the T9GT is outrageous. Yamaha should be embarassed on both those aspects. Kawasaki's N1K for the win.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I also have issues with sport tourer looks. I don’t find any of them good looking. Thanks for weighing in.

You didn't say too much about power

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

The ninja is the more powerful bike, but either one is quick. The power delivery on the Ninja is smoother. You’ll really notice the ninja pulling away after 80mph at full on, so basically once you are in 3rd is when you will see the difference.

@markcomisky7106

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive thanks bud Good review

I have a 2020 tracer and it's being sold and as Iordered the ninja. I hada 2018 SX and rode it all over Europe. Getting on a tracer is an ordeal . Also hand vibration is worse on the tracer. Lack of power unless you rev it all the time. Putting kickstand down had the footpeg in the way. Windshield very ineffective with lots buffering right on the helmet TFT screen way too small, digits even smaller. Not wellset up either. Dial knob on throttle side absolutely ridiculous place.and cheap construction. And the supsension is no where up to par as the ninja. Luggage on ninja is much more sturdy and handy too. Yamaha luggage have no room and closure is cheap too. Not the things you want on a bike fo this price and Yamaha finish is not what it used to be . the ninja looks way better than the tracer. Goodbye tracer .hello ninja.

@sixthisoverdrive

2 жыл бұрын

Now that they are near identical in price...I really like teem green. Cheers

For guys complaining he should compare it with the Versys, go make your own video. I'm torn between these two bikes so stfu.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

lol...I can see why they want them compared, but I can also see the need to have 2 bikes that are similar but offer two different experiences. Plus, I haven't ridden the versys 1000. Thanks for your comments.

Having owned tracer 900 and z1000 sx i would say tracer more the fun lighter bike more flickable the sx more powerful better planted on the road quite a bit heavier when pushing about I'd say the best bike would be a Mt 10 tracer about 220 kgs but Yamaha have not built it yet.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

You hit the nail on the head. Also, if Yamaha could figure out the gas mileage on the mt10 it would be a great Tracer addition. Thanks for commenting.

This is con! Nothing to do with the NEW Tracer! Change your video title

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm, Do you mean by a con that you somehow thought that I would somehow get to ride the new bike before everyone else, and that I made millions trying to dupe you? There are hours of research to make sure that this info is accurate. Also, I never state anywhere that this is a test ride. My description of the 2 bikes is spot on, and will help you with your decision.

@NickForsberg85

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive No. I mean that people look at this video with the intent of seeing the new GT as the title says 2021 Yamaha Tracer 9GT..... and you are riding and talking about another older bike. So it's like click bait

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickForsberg85 I have added "Opinion" to the title. The video is really about my thoughts on the new Tracer, and not to be clickbait. I am just really interested in these 2 bikes and thought I'd break down what I thought. Sorry if I was misleading.

It’s not the Tracer 9 , change your title please

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input. I did change the title by adding OPINION. The video is about the Tracer 9 and the ninja 1000sx, it has nothing to do with the 900 except the fact that I own one and am riding it as background scenery. It also compares the ninja 1000sx head to head to the Tracer as a viable option. With only so many characters allowed by KZread it’s about the only way I can accurately describe it. I think the problem is that everyone is waiting on an English first ride and they get excited when they see Tracer 9. If I do review one this year I will title it FULL REVIEW. cheers.

@sirikulsomsuwan

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive I think your missing the point! Your Yamaha is a 900GT...not the newer Yamaha 9GT.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

sirikulsomsuwan I really don’t understand what you are saying. I own an XSR 900 as well and it’s in the video too, but I’m not talking about it at all, just like I’m not talking about the Tracer. The video is about a Tracer 9, so that’s what the title says. Anything else is misleading. Perhaps you’d be happier if I didn’t show ride footage from the 900 which was taken a week before the voiceover as well for full disclosure. There is plenty of 9gt footage and ninja footage in the video if you watch all the way through.

the metal-msuic in the backgound is really annoying! It makes difficult to follow the comparison and to concentrate.. please leave it away, it's unnecessary..

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

I change my background music just about every video. Sorry this wasn’t to your liking, but thanks for watching.

So, now we even get vids of people trying to get views off of the new Tracer by showing their old Tracer.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Well, when you say it that way....

@razorsharp9850

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive It’s not that you’re the only one doing this. Unfortunately, as an almost surely going to be, new owner of a 2021 Tracer 9 GT I am impatiently awaiting good content of that bike. As the bike is close to release, a lot of Tubers put fake vids out for views and money. And it’s way cheaper done vs what you did. But the French and Italian press event and vids are just out, we’re all waiting for the English content. Yours is misleading. And before this vid of yours, I have watched other vids of yours, on the contrary to pleasure in fact, because then I was interested in the Tracer 900 GT. But not now.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

RAzOR ShaRp sorry it mislead you. I was just trying to show the difference between the 2 bikes based on my experience. I poured hours of research and editing into this to make it entertaining, non-biased, and from previous experience with the older iterations. I was interested in making this video because I like yourself am very interested, not to mislead anyone. Thanks again for taking part, and I hope to chat with you again.

@razorsharp9850

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive You gotta do with your channel however you see fit. And I get where you're coming from. Perhaps you see later from the analytics that the views drop off after the first sighting of the Tracer 900 GT in the video. If so, that would be because people are dissapointed because of expecting something different. Big chance then is that they don't dive into the rest of your content of this video or any of your others. It wouldn't do the rest of the content of this video right then. In any case, I do support your channel and we have similar bike taste, I am also a great fan of the XSR900. We just are way off on color tastes haha, on both bikes. I am someone that speaks his mind easiliy, still the best of luck to you.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

@@razorsharp9850 Just FYI, I have added OPINION to the title. Hopefully, that clears it up for others...thanks again for the comments.

Adventure bikes are all ugly and I've owned one(aprilia caponord), don't know why yamaha haven't stuck a Mt10 engine in a fazer frame (Fz1s).

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a lot of people want it to happen.

‘The proof of the pudding is in the eating’ is the correct term. ‘The proof is in the pudding’ is meaningless. Sorry but a real pet hate of mine and I’m on a mission to rid the world of that misquote 😛. BTW the SX can’t be the perfect tourer with no centre stand and the pannier or top box but not both issue. I would have bought one but for those flaws.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Well, that certainly makes it not so catchy! I’ll have to remember that in the future. Neither one of these is the perfect tourer. For example, they could both use some beautification.

I don’t understand how you can compare these two bikes they are totally different!!!! You might as well compare a Harley with a Crosser !!🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤔🤔🤔

I have been researching both of these bikes, and you have missed some HUGE POINTS: 1)Not only does the 2021 Ninja 1000 not come with a center stand, you cannot purchase one ANYWHERE, not from Kawasaki or the aftermarket, perhaps due to the routing of the exhaust. Go check it out if you do not believe me. 2)Not being able to mount a top box at the same time with the panniers on the 1000SX is a BIG DEAL. The reason you cannot do this is because the subframe in the rear is not strong enough to support both, which means a re-design may be necessary. 3)The 1000SX panniers do not come with the bike and cost as much as $1700 !!! The look cheap, too, and have a heat shield on the bottom because the sit so close to the exhaust, so beware of any substitutes you might try with aftermarket carriers. 4)The only top box mount currently available to mount a top box on a 1000SX is the Ventura top box carrier and many complain about its flimsiness. There might be another carrier which can be used, but it replaces the 2nd rider seat. How can you call the 1000SX a sport tourer with such deficits ? Kawasaki has done a poor job of turning a super sport styled bike into a 'Sport Tourer". Who want's a bike you cannot get a center stand for when you need to lube a chain ? Insanely priced panniers that look cheap and do not look that roomy. Not sure if even a helmet will fit in them. In general there is a huge advantage for the Tracer, but they might want to much $$ for the 2021 model. Do your homework and see if these things are not true. Are you making this stuff up ?

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Wow...that’s one long message let me respond. You cannot get a center stand, you also need to take apart the fairing just to change the oil...not ideal. 2. The top box is not a deal breaker for me and many others, but it may be for you. This bike is on the sport end of the spectrum, and I like it that way. 3 I like the panniers, the Do fit a helmet and I priced them in the video with the bike. 4 not worried about a top box, if this is an area of concern, buy the Tracer, it’s a great bike. 5. Lubing a chain is only marginally more difficult without a center stand. 6. I did plenty of research and would buy the ninja hands down over the Tracer and I have owned both, so, it seems that our opinions differ. Thanks for the comments.

@Noxxys

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixthisoverdrive I think the Versys would be a more capable tourer than the Ninja. It has a center stand and you can fit all 3 cases at the same time. It also has a lot more carrying capacity than the Tracer. The only problem is that the Versys weighs a lot more than the Tracer.

@sixthisoverdrive

3 жыл бұрын

Noxxys agreed. That weight actually feels really good when moving and provides a feeling of quality. It just is missing the fun to ride feeling the lighter Tracer has.