I work at a Lexus dealership and when they announced the ES 250 AWD on a conference call there were audible gasps and instant complaints from the dealers. First the UX is a snail. Then the IS is another refresh. The GX is a dinosaur. The flagship LX is not worthy of being a flagship. Now the ES AWD is a snail. Lexus needs to wake the F up.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree..not sure what they're waiting on. They're doing the absolute bare minimum with their product and relying on loyalty and customer service to carry the brand.

This honestly doesn't disappoint me at all. Knowing Lexus, it'll still be a very refined and quiet experience. Plus, driving a 4 cylinder in the snow is better than a v6. The 3.5 v6 is just too heavy for the snow and is too difficult to control wheel slippage. I think this is actually a really good move on Lexus' part. The 4 cylinder will outlast the v6 and be cheaper to operate and maintain. Seems like a win-win-win-win to me.

@naveenthemachine

2 жыл бұрын

That 4 cylinder is not refined. If anything it’s very noisy. I know because I’ve driven the same engine in the Camry and rav4 Plus why wouldn’t you just get a Camry AWD xle or XSE and save the cash?

I get that people think that it should be a V6 AWD. But the AWD system that toyota is using would require a major architecture redesign to be able to FIT the 3.5 and an AWD diff into their cars. I know they can figure it out, but 1, it takes time, 2, it takes lots of freaking money. 90% of AWD users don't need AWD and most who need AWD also need a larger, higher vehicle. Notice how the AWD system in the IS is a longitudinal layout, not transverse. This is the issue of taking a FWD architecture and trying to put AWD into it. I am convinced this is a stop gap, and soon the ES250 will have the same 2.5 in the RAV4 prime and the electric motors. This is the direction toyota is going, and they are easing their marketing into it while they work on the new architecture's to fit all of this in. Another issue is weight. The ES is already 4000lb, and putting awd will increase the weight and make most of the power meaningless, and reduce the effectiveness of AWD because weight is what will destabilize the vehicle in emergency scenarios. "But the germans". Yes the germans have better AWD. 1, because they have been developing it for decades and they don't need to invest half the company's money into developing an all new platform, and 2, their cars are SIGNIFICANTLY smaller, 3, they are longitudinal layout engines. They are also more expensive. The BASE 530i XDrive is 56k+. The ES AWD will be 46k. How can you even bother comparing this? Anyway, being mad about this is stupid, because it won't make sense if you don't understand fundamental mass scale engineering limitations.

@terence4427

Ай бұрын

Well stated!

I agree with everything you said. It reminds meof Acura of few years back. Their team complained so much about how they are taking the back seat to Honda and how their product seemed to stalled. Few years later, now they seem to tealize this and pumping out new quality products.

First the death of the GS, then the lazy IS refresh, and now this lazy AWD implementation for the ES. Lexus, I've loved ya since buying my 2010 GS AWD and was thinking about buying something newer, but with everything that's been done over the last year... I'll just hold on to it for a while.

I really appreciate your honesty Kirk about the ES 250, thanks!

That's Lexus for ya. Thanks for the upload Kirk. You keep us in the know.

Thank you so much this video really help me a lot. Well appreciated your comments.

I can forgive Toyota for putting AWD on their 4 cylinder models like the Camry or Avalon Because the Camry sells in high volumes But seriously Lexus. You’re not making a v6 AWD? Then what’s the point of even upgrading to the Lexus ES? SMH 🤦‍♂️ You’re making your customers buy SUVS to get a v6 AWD combo?

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

The RX is the only v6 SUV. NX has turbo 4 which is way better than the 2.5 inline 4 seen in this AWD ES

@ft9kop

3 жыл бұрын

The TLX SH-AWD will steal so many ES customers from Lexus

@redmanmustdie

3 жыл бұрын

For Europe is fine

@bjsimon802

3 жыл бұрын

it will go against the BMW 2 series FWD, and lower price point.

@DoLus88

3 жыл бұрын

@@redmanmustdie no way. Bmw 5 audi A6 E class merc, even passat or škoda superb will crush ES with this setup. Camry is overwhelmed by passat and superb.

Its really disappointing the Es should've had the V6 all wheel drive option, I don't get why they continue to drag there fleet.

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Levar Foreman yet Toyota isn’t doing that in their latest cars. The Camry Avalon rav4 and even the venza are quite nice and in some cases better than their Lexus counterparts

@dfhhtyu3434

3 жыл бұрын

naveenthemachine 🤣

@thapelomashaomasemola7922

3 жыл бұрын

It's pretty obvious, Toyota is going full premium and Lexus is being used to give Toyota good rep

Kirk, I love your style and your honest informative reviews. As a Lexus owner I agree with everything you are saying here. I, too, am not an ES driver, but this new model doesn't seem to have a purpose. "Sunlight Green is a little too old person green for me..." LOL The LC 500 you quickly show is probably a younger person green. :o)

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Haha yes. You can put any color on the LC and it will still look fabulous

I LOVE THAT YOU HAVE A UCF10 ON YOUR DESK, IM CURRENTLY RESTORING MINE 💞💞❤️

What a wast of metals and plastic! I'm thinking the higher ups at Toyota had reached the conclusion that there wouldn't be any future for luxury or sport brands in the age of the electric car!. This is why they were trying for awhile to portray Lexus as a lifestyle brand rather than an automotive one hoping to capitalize on the branded Keychains and the caps market 😄 Hence the Lexus yacht, the carbon fiber bic and the Lexus themed lounges that pop up here and there from time to time. In my opinion, that didn't work for them. They are not Bentley. They don't have the history nor the credentials to pull this off. The LFA was not enough. They have little time to figure out what they want to be. The Koreans are hot on their heels

I would need a vastly more compelling reason to buy the ES over an Accord Sport much less a merc or bmw, getting rid of the GS instead of updating the 15 year old platform was a mistake

@craigsmith4518

3 жыл бұрын

The ES outsold both the LS and GS. The GS actually shares the same classing as the ES. There was no way Lexus could in their right mind dump more money into an already overcrowded and actively shrinking segment. The GS will be re-imagined as the LF-1 flagship

@ms3173

3 жыл бұрын

I agree the GS is what put Lexus on the map after the LS back in the day.

@TRELL5044

3 жыл бұрын

GS rwd was the reason i purchased the 2007 2010 2016 Gs350.. can’t do the fwd ES and IS models wayyyy to small the back seats makes NO sense.

Sold!!! I’m getting the TLX!! Thanx Kirk!

I want a good looking reliable luxury sedan with awd. This is exactly what I and every who are actually buying one need from Lexus. Stop complaining about horsepower. Seriously, nobody, literally nobody looking into buying a luxury sedan like the ES care about horsepower. The most important thing are ride quality and comfort and the ES deliver just that. American and their horsepower craving is just ridiculous.

@PK-bn2pg

3 жыл бұрын

Acura tlx destroys the es in everything

Lexus gotta step up there game

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Barajas somehow Toyota’s doing that it seems. They seem to be outbuilding Lexus

@MrReeseisawesome

3 жыл бұрын

It's a problem that comes from Toyota. It's so hard to get changes approved.

@realalsenor

3 жыл бұрын

the same for your spelling.

You are spot on saying that ground clearance is much more important for heavy snow driving than AWD is. AWD is way overrated for snow driving.

@LordPrometheous

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that until I got stuck in the mud and the tow was $250 just to pull my car 30 feet forward. I'm just thankful it was my Solara and not my Lexus, b/c it was packed with mud and shaking like crazy until I drove about 10 miles. I thought the car was going to shake itself apart.

A couple more things: 1) This is a North American model only, just as the Camry/Avalon AWD is 2) The 250 only has a single exhaust, therefore ditches the cool dual exhaust bumper seen on the 350, and shares the hybrids rear bumper instead :( 3) You can find my Amazon page with my model ES here: amzn.to/2FHxzp3

We feel you, good group gripe... at least it's Friday.

Lexus isn’t even trying to be the best anymore. The ES should have been a V6 AWD to differentiate itself from its Toyota cousins, but here we are. The Relentless Pursuit Of Perfection and Experience Amazing mean absolutely nothing. Lexus is joining Scion soon.

@lforeman9467

3 жыл бұрын

I agree its like their not even trying when it comes to horsepower and performance.

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

And since Toyota is doing new things like a star gaze roof in the venza, dare I say that Toyota might be turning into Lexus?

@ResplendentRaider

3 жыл бұрын

Joining Scion?! Ouch!

@dariuscarter4746

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 he snapped, but he’s right

@lryoung17

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed or I even thought they were gonna do the hybrid system with all wheel drive to differentiate from Camry and Avalon. That would have made this interesting to have the traction and gas mileage and a lil more power than the Camry. I would have been satisfied with that even but this is just copy and paste. Smh. I can't wait until they refresh this officially then maybe it will get more interesting powertrains.

Your thoughts were exactly what I thought. Take the 243hp hybrid system and give it AWD. That would have been 💯 acceptable.

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Matthew Sahd or better yet. Transplant the rav4 primes plugin hybrid system into the Es

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

That's coming 🤞

@PaintsvilleLL

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, i was really looking forward to this but they literally just used the camry and rav4 frame and engine. SUcks

@oceanzu6585

3 жыл бұрын

The hybrid e-awd from Toyota is just a joke, it will never send enough power to the rear end while you are claiming up a slippery slope...

@YawmSaub

3 жыл бұрын

Lexus is going the way of the Dodo bird, I mean Acura and Infiniti.

It is really stupid to discontinue the GS and then not offer an AWD V6 in what looks to be the replacement. Very lame Lexus.... Especially for a luxury brand.

@NoHypebeastZay

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@carguyns4348

3 жыл бұрын

OnePunchYou and Lexus probably won’t make an es-f, while the bmw m5 and Mercedes e63 have 600+hp, and this AWD snail 🐌 is slower than a Honda Accord Touring 2.0T 😂

@taki4707

3 жыл бұрын

@@carguyns4348 They are most likely downsizing engines because of the new regulations. Im sure the GS was discontinued for that reason as well plus the fact that it historically does not sell well.

I like there cream color from the NX. It looks nice to me.

Love your Lexus videos!! Keep up the excellent work. Have you heard anything about a new gx460 yet? Do you know why Lexus doesn’t offer a cool box in the USA? It’s only in Canada as a executive package

@charlesthomas6987

3 жыл бұрын

Chezzyperson I can’t wait. Have you heard any new details about it?

It may be a hit. We, car enthusiasts, may not like it, but a typical Lexus buyer may find it very appealing. They value reliability, comfort, safety and good MPG over power and handling;)

@naveenthemachine

2 жыл бұрын

If you want reliability comfort mpg good handling, what’s stopping you from getting a Camry AWD in XLE or XSE trims fully loaded?

Day by day Lexus seems more underwhelming

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Tim Manning and also Toyota seems more interesting because they seem to be innovating more than the Lexus. The venza for example

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Chezzyperson the only exception to that statement would be the Lexus LS500

@zZiL341yRj736

3 жыл бұрын

Lexus designer: You're like check marks and fold everywhere? I got chu!!!

@MrBaskins2010

3 жыл бұрын

It’s been that way for years imo

@_TheWerewolf

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Baskins I just feel so disappointed in Lexus ever since they cancelled the LC-F

Great video Kirk, reminds me of the powertrain from the old IS250 AWD (one with the hump)

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - that old iS 250 v6 was similar in power but smoother and drank much more fuel.

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Kirk Kreifels but the IS was more fun because it was RWD

@CarsofGlasgow

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels Very true! Mind you I have been getting 40mpg+ this past month in my 2007 IS 250 (RWD) :D

@larkt6693

3 жыл бұрын

That 2.5 liter in the IS250.. the V6 will be way smoother .. & it sometimes gets up too 32 mpg on the highway... with RWD..

@CarsofGlasgow

3 жыл бұрын

@@larkt6693 Yeah I love my V6 2.5l Lexus

ABSOLUTELY dead-on balls accurate, Kirk!!!! I hope, by chance someone from Lexus HQ views this video! I was psyched when I saw the headline, then felt slapped in the face when I saw it was paired with the same 4 cylinder as the Camry and Avalon. WTH are you thinking, Lexus?? Wake up!! Lexus ES is a V6 model, which is one of the reasons why it's popular. Keep the V6 in it and pair it with the AWD system. #Lexus

Damn I was really excited for the awd Es

When the 203 horsepower is over 400 thousand miles and still running then talk...in line 4 is a great reliable engine and easy to work on...

@heiden2413

3 жыл бұрын

3.5 is just as good

@MandusahRamirez

3 жыл бұрын

No one wants a 4 cylinder in a luxury car! Hell we didn’t want the slow ass IS250 either. This ES is heavier than IS

@ellocovg

3 жыл бұрын

That’s Toyota’s thinking exactly, it’s proven and will go forever. Problem is since they killed off the GS AWD this is essentially the replacement since it’s actually bigger than the GS. 200 HP will not make ppl coming off a GS AWD looking for a non SUV AWD replacement happy at all. I also doubt it will hold value as well as the 3.5 ES meaning it probably won’t lease well.

@naveenthemachine

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandusahRamirez didn’t the is250 have a v6? Their 2.5L v6? I don’t recall the is250 having a 4 cylinder.

Damn! It would have been great to see the ES350 in AWD, with adaptive suspension. 250?! WTF?! Keep up the great Lexus reporting & Vids!!! Even when the news is like this...

Some unsolicited advise, if I may Kirk. If I were you, I would not say negative comments such as not liking the video. There are already tons of people who do that, I would not help them. The vehicle reviewed and your review, are mutually exclusive. I like your reviews, your honestly, and great content Kirk. Love you too bro.

Love the sad music closing the episode, Kirk! My opinion is this move harkens back to the timid design changes and non-risk taking direction that Toyota used to be. Hopefully it's just really a small step into something bigger and ground shaking but its utterly confusing. I agree about the cost, this should be something in the upper $30k range at best.

Agree with others that AWD should have been with the 300h and also introduced with ES300 (2.0t) and ES350 with AWD

Shoud've added AWD for the V6 that would be good because right now if You just want AWD and a midsize sedan you could pick the way cheaper Camry AWD

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

MarioStriker28 the whole point of the ES would be to sell you a v6 AWD when looking at a Camry AWD or Avalon AWD

I have a feeling that the next generation of Lexus will bring some excitement and cutting edge technology in the near future. It seems like all Lexus is doing is refreshing and offering simply class competitive vehicles in the interim.

Great video Kirk, totally agree with you. Disappointed that the engine had to be sacrificed in order to get the all wheel drive. I’m a former ES 300 owner, my last two vehicles were in line fours. I’m in the market for a used ES sometime in the fall. I am growing tired of the moaning and growing four-cylinder engines that struggle to pick up speed and get out of traffic. Being from Wisconsin, I was considering an all-wheel-drive sedan but I’m really not willing to sacrifice that much horsepower. My old ES 300 Front Wheel Drive with VSC was pretty good on the snow so I think I may stick with the V-6.

Would you have the insight into when Lexus is going to completely redesign the RX? Understood that the 2020 model is a huge mid-cycle refresh. We have the 2020 ES350 (and enjoying its reliability from having nothing but Mercedes and BMWs in the past) and would love to see that design language translates to the RX. Perhaps a complete digital odometer?

i sticking with fwd es 350

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

The Good man with better rubber too

Good ood evening from Toronto. I understood what you said about ES 250. My wife wants a 2021 Lexus this time. Do you recommend ES 300h or ES 350? Thanks

Will you do a video on the TLX prices including the Type S missing some key feature content like HUD, 360, rain sensing etc.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@bg693

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels there are also some really good MDX spyshots from yesterday as well.

Hey dude, can you rate the beat Toyota affiliates sports cars? I want to know which is best between the Lexus RC, LC, Louts Elise, Evora, and you can add others if you want, but I want to know about those comparatively.

They gotta freaking compete!

I get the concern about blind spot not being standard on base trim level, but from my experience all the dealerships order their cars with certain packages and I've not seen a new Lexus lately without this option. Do dealers actually keep base models without this feature in stock??

They got rid of the GS model for ES 250? Fascinating.

@little123456788

3 жыл бұрын

Soyboys are in charge of Toyota/Lexus now.

When I saw this new, my reaction was exactly the same just like you on your thumbnail... seriously Lexus 🤦‍♂️ Anyway great content Kirk 👍

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It's a disappointment 😬

Will you do a review on the 2021 GX

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Not until redesign..if they make it

I got all excited thinking the mini-6 was coming back. 😔

Your right

I live in Chicago and own a 2006 LS430. I just throw a set of snow tires on my baby and drive perfectly throughout the winter. I am not sure I fully understand the awd infatuation. I do not know all the specifics of the various awd vehicles on road today when it comes to drivetrain loss. My old 3000gt VR4 was more full time AWD which was great for 0-60, not much after that. Seems like the awd these days is more gimmicky i.e. 18-speakers in a car. Is an ES250 AWD on par with the AWD systems that come in the WRX/STI, Skyline, or Mitsu EVO-X.

Alhamdulillah. Just got hybrid es300h 2017. Ma sha Allah. What a car. Better than Mercedes e class. Takes reg gas, for 65 liters I get 1k kilometers. Which luxury can get you that. Beautiful suspension and quiet drive. I dont think we need all wheel drive. Rather good price hybrid. Look at my 2017 mileage. I am blown away.

The 1990s called, they want their ES 250 back.

I’m deciding what to buy between a 2013 es350 or a 2010 ls460 both 10k

My 2016 es 350 All black outside Cream on the inside

In the picture of the cutaway engine, please tell me I did NOT see a timing belt??!!??

Very nice.

Aww i heard about the ES250 AWD! Shame its not coming to the UK still :/

I think they are giving you a better than normal package you just sacrifice blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic for a amazing package worth the money

Is it even going to have enough power to get through the snow?

Despite my huge love for Lexus I have to agree with everything here, this is just downright embarrassing, it's like they are not even trying anymore the only way I can recommend this to anyone is if they need the space and AWD and a sedan apart from that I would say get the new IS or an NX or even an RX, people always say the ES is just a rebadged Camry well this just proves their point couldn't they have used the hybrid system or the AWD system from the Highlander since it's basically the same engine, I know that AWD system is more rubost but they could have figured something out, I don't know what Lexus is thinking but they better pull their shit together for next year or else Genesis is coming for their neck. I know most people would never what kind of engine they have in their car but still it's just annoying to even think about, I thought they were gonna make the ES rwd and give us an ESF to replace the GS but know they give us this thing, I'm really disappointed, this is a big joke

@mackfar27

3 жыл бұрын

Word. The only way at this point for Lexus to redeem themselves is to bring back the Grand Sedan. No excuses.

@andremaitre4721

3 жыл бұрын

Me personally, I'd choose a RX awd over the other Lexus models

Now I am not regretting on getting a v6 fwd es a week ago, lol

Kirk, I thought the ES, starting in 2014, was based on the Avalon...not the Camry anymore.

I understand this decision very well as a European. It is an important factor when buying a car to know that insurance is calculated according to horsepower. A basic model which does not have like 300HP is a strong buying argument for me. Unfortunately I don't like that feeling with hybrids while driving. Not to forget that I can never drive my car above 120kmh. More horsepower is simply not necessary. 4WD is a good addition for the mountains. I love Sedans, and i will always be driving them. I love your reviews!

@terence4427

Ай бұрын

Excellent points!

They should just put Camry TRD edition engine in it. Bad move for Toyota’s premium brand.

“Oh... I can feel it “ -Kronk

So the Es 250 gets f sport but they got rid of it on the is 300.

The RX needs a complete redesign as well. We own a 2017.. and was excited about 2020 but it wasn't completely new.. the competitors are coming for them rapidly.

Would love to get your take on Acura's just-announced TLX pricing.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Likely will make a video about it for tomorrow's video. Unless something bigger drops between now and then haah

@TC-ps9sd

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels Thanks. There are implications for Type S pricing in the spring as a result.

Not to mention that the 2.5 engine sounds pretty gritty when pushed hard, How are potential buyers going to feel about that sound on a test drive? 🤔

Well for those of us who live in cold climates, anything with all wheel drive is a good move. The ES was always the boring sedan in the Lexus lineup, but now with the GS gone and the recent decline in popularity of sedans, hopefully they offer more variants. A sporty ES with the fuel economy of a hybrid would be nice!

But I wish if there was a performance version of the Lexus ES, like ES F, to compete Mercedes-Benz E class and BMW 5 Series Performance versions!!😥😞

@_TheWerewolf

3 жыл бұрын

I felt let down by Lexus ever since they canceled the LC-F

@tinhinnh

3 жыл бұрын

venomspeak fwd vs rwd

@tinhinnh

3 жыл бұрын

venomspeak well if they want the ES to compete with the big 3 then it will have to be the next gen and offer more engine choices and awd or rwd that was where the gs filled the void

@yousef.al-assaf

3 жыл бұрын

E Class and 5 Series are both built on a RWD platform. Absolutely different than the ES and a level above!

@tinhinnh

3 жыл бұрын

venomspeak If they’re serious about the new ES being a GS replacement but not actually bring the name back, they could switch to a real Lexus platform (TNGA-L?) and start from there

It’s actually base on the Avalon not Camry, I work at Toyota rn, Erine Palmer, Jacksonville Florida

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix

3 жыл бұрын

You're right, they switched to the Avalon chassis a few years ago.

honestly, this is perfect for leases in ny

Rav 4 powertrain finally making the rounds

IS/Altezza, ES/Windom, GS/Aristo, HS/Sai, SC/Soarer, LS/Celsior, RX/Harrier, GX/ Landcruiser Prado.

You’re not a fan, then?! Worth throwing in that, although North America is the main market, it is not the only market. have just picked up an ES Hybrid F-Sport FWD which, as I understand it, is not available in North America. Would it be a better option for Lexus there?

Can't wait to buy an es 350 used one day

You seem to forget the es is entry level.

here in Kazakhstan people mainly buy ES250 over 350, because its cheaper and taxes each year are smaller. Same with NX200 with 150 hp. And later it will be easier to sell these models with smaller engines

I think they are holding out on the engine until the inline-6 they're co-developing with Mazda

With the Highlander Hybrid engine in all version, the ES would be a good and exclusive luxury car.

I would get it.

Isn't the ES based on the Avalon chassis? I know that the 13-19 was.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Tnga-K platform

Kirk, based on your diligence, what do you think is the underlying reason Lexus went with a 4 cylinder ? thank you

@naveenthemachine

2 жыл бұрын

Cost cutting is the reason. Since they just took a Camry and gussied it up that opens doors to even more cost cutting

@Jaang29

2 жыл бұрын

@@naveenthemachine thanks for your comment Naveenthemachine, wait, I thought the new ES series was based on the Avalon

@naveenthemachine

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jaang29 well it is Avalon based. But the Avalon itself is Camry based. So even though in explicit terms the ES is Avalon based, on a wholistic view, it’s still a fancy Camry

Can you talk about the maintenance cost of Lexus?

Thank you!!!! When I saw awd in the es for 2021.. i was excited..then.. i read only in the 4 cylindsr and was enraged. Lexusu is stupid for this move.

This will probably have similar acceleration to the hybrid. The batteries add a lot of weight even though it has more power

the es250 fwd costs $130k usd in Singapore

So sad is Toyota and Lexus now to me. I feel they have style but no substance, no oomph or get up and go. Watch out for Hyundai and Genesis taking the mantle.

@Housee01

3 жыл бұрын

"Get up and go"? Hilarious saying

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

Chezzyperson Toyota doing fine? That’s an understatement. Toyota is beating Lexus at their game of being luxury even though Toyota is a mainstream brand. 1. Look at the new rav4. It’s hybrid gets 40mpg while the nx hybrid gets mid 30s. Additionally the rav4 prime is very quick at 5.8sec w 300hp, and it’s faster than the x3 plugin and just as fast as the rdx. The rav4 has Lexus levels of tech like a rear camera mirror, pano roof, adaptive headlights, etc. heck even the instrument cluster I think beats the one in the NX 2. The Highlander especially the interior of limited and platinum trims are very Lexus like compared to the RX350 L. It and the top end rav4 even offers a more advanced AWD system with torque vectoring 3. The venza hybrid is probably the most Lexus like. It literally could wear a Lexus badge. It even offers a feature expected on a high end Mercedes S class: the star gaze roof. Toyota is definitely beating Lexus at their own game these days so Lexus needs to wake up and better differentiate their products from their mainstream brand Toyota

@epicraptorman

3 жыл бұрын

If people actually bought the Stinger and showed they'd be willing to buy fun cars Kia could've been included.

@travisl1759

3 жыл бұрын

Lexus is killing it, I dont know what the Fsport you guys are talking about

It’s now 2021 and I have been more than happy with my ES250 AWD - there’s literally nothing wrong with the vehicle - these aren’t performance cars nor are they meant to be driven like M5 comps - they are luxury cruisers meant to be smooth, quiet, soft and low emissions - I can’t stand how every one thinks lexus needs to be like subpar German brands that literally explode after 80k miles (BMW 4.4TT, ahem) - if you don’t own the car then stop the entitlement whining and buy that lexus that fits your needs. Most of the people here don’t even own an ES250 nor a Lexus even - everyone just wants a reason to bit** 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

@terence4427

Ай бұрын

I agree and most of the people making negative comments have never even driven one.

Wow. I had no idea the Avalon AWD was going to be a 4-cylinder also. I don't get this move at all!

ES 250 $ 42,000 205 hp AWD Someone will still buy it 🤑

When asked why they couldn't engineer the hybrid or the V6 to have AWD the response was, "we are a manufacturing company not an engineering company."

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Horrible excuse if true

‘“Devastated” is today’s word Kirk. You are devastated. Even if it rains a little, you are devastated. Different Lexus; “devastated “.

ES Is based on the Avalon not on the Camry anymore and that's includes Previous ES models

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

You could say it’s Camry based since the Es is based on the Avalon. Avalon is literally just a larger Camry

Wait..... usa didn’t have ES?? or just the ES250? in South Africa we only have ES250..... wished we had the 2.0T and 3.5L v6 option....

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Here in USA we have ES350 and ES300 hybrid since I believe 2013. This is the first 250 we've had since 1991 I believe

9:58 "We're living in 2021 guys..." FINALLY!!!!! I'll take my vaccine now please.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Haha 🤣 if I said 2021 it's because the model year is 2021 🤣

Lexus: LOOK AT ME!! LOOK AT ME!! WE got sharp body angles protrusion, folds, edges, check marks.

QUETION: how reliable has the turbo engine in the LS 500 been ? if you know. thank you in advance.

@naveenthemachine

3 жыл бұрын

lgnfve the engine is too new. It came in the 2018 redesign.

@JDMSwervo2001

3 жыл бұрын

If you beat the shit out of it it’s gonna be an oil burner after 100k miles