2021 Kia K5 - Optima | Last Stand for the Sedan
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We do a quick review of the new 2021 Kia K5 (Rebranded Optima). The car is a major change in the affordable sedan market while similar to the Sonata, the styling is more mainstream. We take a quick look at the good and bad. What would you choose? Subaru, Honda Accord Sport, Nissan Altima, Hyundai Sonata, or Mazda6?
#Kia
#K5
00:00 - 0:57 Intro
0:57 - 5:43 Interior Impressions
5:43 - 8:54 Mechanical, Suspension Changes, Engine and Transmission
8:54 - 11:32 Driving Impressions
11:32 Final Thoughts
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I had a 2013 Optima SX and I completely agree with your comments on the traction control. There were a couple of times where I needed to quickly make a left turn on a busy road, only to have the traction control almost bring the car to a complete stop. This can definitely create dangerous situations, and I ended up just manually putting the car in 2nd if I knew I had to make a quick left turn like that. Great video as always!
@freddywayne
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. My 2013 Optima LX (base) has the same issue. I always disable the traction control when I get in it.
@future62
3 жыл бұрын
I also had a '13 Optima SX! Sold it after 8 months because I couldn't stand how it drove. It was also incredibly loud inside. They put all the money into styling and features and none into the mechanicals or refinement. I sold it to my FIL who loves it! With AWD + the 2.5T and proper stability control calibration this could have been a contendah.
@kdash3215
3 жыл бұрын
Same, had to fully disable mine in snow. Drove better with it off on snow tires. Press and hold the Stability Control button for over 3 seconds.
@tunedskillsz
3 жыл бұрын
You should ask us Genesis coupe owners what we call the traction control, the "neck breaker", it stops the car incredibly violent especially when you are expecting it to accelerate but it does the opposite.
@bUtMyRiGhTs
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes even when you disable the traction control the stability control is still on and when you hit the apex of a corner and the body rolls... it will cut your throttle input to the engine. So if you're making a quick maneuver to save your life for someone else's and you caused the little level to hit its maximum range the ECU cuts throttle. In a lot of new cars you can turn off the traction but you can't turn off the stability or the yaw control all the way.
This, Kia, is what happens when you don't let this man keep a car for a week. You get the back waxing jokes.
@nachiketdhende8681
3 жыл бұрын
*The pathetic attempt to cram Bible Class, illegal waxing and Anal Sphincter in the same line!* :) Leave the comedy to the Brits, guys. Just stick to the review. Comedy's not your cup of tea! :)))))))))))
@acuras4ever
3 жыл бұрын
Nachiket Dhende he’s funny, you can watch other reviewers. The brits are literally the unfunniest people on the planet.
@Jackinacox
3 жыл бұрын
@@nachiketdhende8681 In what world are the Brits funny? I hope that was sarcasm.
@Daniel-tv9tb
3 жыл бұрын
@@nachiketdhende8681 I really hope you were being sarcastic!
@twystedhumour
3 жыл бұрын
but the Brits are funny. just have a gallon of water ready for drinking as their humor's a bit dry. i guess if you get on all 4's in that back seat, you can have your back and scrotum waxed in a short period of time.
“10 inches, that’s typically how I roll...” 😂
@mrsj1417
3 жыл бұрын
My ES has 12"...just saying...
@joshuadavid3920
3 жыл бұрын
If you liked this k5 review you'll love this kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmGLsq6lk7G-isY.html
@spetcnaz83
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao this was excellent
@VitariusLaszlo
3 жыл бұрын
how original
@chavez885
3 жыл бұрын
he sneaked that one in there, nasty azz lol
I'm sure Kia appreciates their review containing the words "anal sphincter."
@lennys.4588
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ConLLee
3 жыл бұрын
its what they get for only letting him have it for one day lol
@trowercroy153
3 жыл бұрын
It's also a bit redundant. I don't think there's a sphincter on any other part of the human body.
@Alex74ch
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👏🏻
@CDNChaoZ
3 жыл бұрын
@@trowercroy153 I thought the human body had dozens of sphincters.
I love this channel.
@CravenTheDarkLord
3 жыл бұрын
I love that you love this channel
@wking8
3 жыл бұрын
@@CravenTheDarkLord I love that you love that they love this channel.
@PianoBlackTrimRep.
3 жыл бұрын
Then why don't you marry it.
@Cars701
3 жыл бұрын
@@PianoBlackTrimRep. It gave me the clap.
@CravenTheDarkLord
3 жыл бұрын
@@wking8 simp
Oh my God, that bit at 4:17 and the thing with the trunk. Thanks for making my morning, Mark. This is why I love your videos.
@EluciaDeLuteIma
3 жыл бұрын
My sides hurt from laughing.
@lionintu
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol i had to rewind and replay that bit hahabah
That air filter trick at 6:30 is ingenious!
@michaellim4165
3 жыл бұрын
My jaws, literally, dropped. Why didn't anyone think of this before?
@wonminlee966
3 жыл бұрын
It has been like that for Hyundai/Kia products since around 2015 models. :)
@theofficialwizard2753
3 жыл бұрын
And before the Koreans started doing this Infiniti and Nissan have several vehicles with similar easy access filters
@white_shadow_123
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I do that with my regular charger from the lighter port. I have a mount for a phone attached on one of the ventilator ports, and when my phone is there it is cooled. Interesting thing is it charges faster, because the battery doesn't get hot. Win, win ,win :D
@spletest8977
3 жыл бұрын
Nissan has been doing this for about 10 years now. Not sure about other brands but I assume others do it to
Hyundai and Kia make good cars now, unlike Nissan
@muyaho420
3 жыл бұрын
Nissan's been screwing themselves for a while now.... especially with their CVT
@juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Nissan has gone backwards quality wise
@jaysefmacmanus8858
3 жыл бұрын
Unlike GM as well. You would have to be mad to get a Malibu over this. They're right in line in price. (that said, nobody buys a Malibu at MSRP, they're all heavily discounted)
@kdrguru
3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysefmacmanus8858 Malibu looks better. I bet it's more reliable too.
@AIDAHAR210
3 жыл бұрын
@@kdrguru yes definitly the Kia is more reliable. GM is long gone, except for the C8
Hands down best car channel with regular cars and throttle house. Production value is aggressively good, leaving me bruised by 8 minutes every time
@Matt-vw9nd
3 жыл бұрын
Also whenever the audio review graphics show, I ascend
@bloozism
3 жыл бұрын
Behemoth! Also, Zos KIA Cultus lmao
@johnbacon4997
3 жыл бұрын
Bruised?
Savagegeese please don’t change anything on this channel. It is perfect! Your reviews are perfect, your editing is perfect! You have a wonderful consistency that I can expect from every video, And I thank you for that. Looking forward to many more vids!
Goose saves his dirtiest reviews for the midsize family mobiles. SAVAGE
"10 inches is how i roll" and being able to man groom in the back is all i needed to hear. Sold.
All the body lines are hinting at a lift back. So disappointed that it’s just a regular trunk :-(
@FasterThanSoup
3 жыл бұрын
Ya, it’s like why not go the extra mile ?
@Aaron36983
3 жыл бұрын
Because that would undermine a key selling point of the stinger
@davect01
3 жыл бұрын
I thought so as well
@ConLLee
3 жыл бұрын
i was convinced when he got to the trunk part that it did that. I was like "oh shit its like the stinger in the back" and then it opened and i lost my boner
@JJ-ls7fq
3 жыл бұрын
@@ConLLee tmi.
This is vintage-style Goose -- love it.
"It's totally comfortable to get bent over on this thing. And I guess that is a great time to talk abo..." lmao that cut.
@berict
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha just great
@Dowlphin
3 жыл бұрын
He was really about to go off the deep end, so it needed a hasty cut. 😆
The only review that matters. And the only reviewer that didn't piss his pants about how awesome K5 is, great job man!
@wonderboy1998
3 жыл бұрын
True
@techpappee
3 жыл бұрын
Disagree
I said it before and I'll say it again. This channel has the best music to go with the video. Love it!
@Xiphos86
3 жыл бұрын
If Goose a jazz fan, then we all win.
I'm getting more and more surprised by Korea cars and more and more disappointed by Japanese cars recently
@ronaldderooij1774
3 жыл бұрын
Scotty Kilmer leaves the chat.
@sadmanh0
3 жыл бұрын
Japanese cars will never blow you away, that's how they maintain the reliability reputation, they don't take risks
@khoaphan8490
3 жыл бұрын
Same. The new TLX looks really good but I can’t say the same for Lexus’ new IS.
@sadmanh0
3 жыл бұрын
@@khoaphan8490 probably because they didn't actually do a 'new' IS since unlike Acura their design wasn't 20yrs old.
@joshuadavid3920
3 жыл бұрын
Youll love this k5 review kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmGLsq6lk7G-isY.html
Its way better than all the other channels on YT. The details are crisp, video part 10/10 and never boring. A huge effort results in this kind of content.
Thanks for uploading in 4k really appreciate it. Looks fabulous on my 75" TV.
Lots of zingers in this video. Surprised Kia didn't make the K5 into a Stinger-lite.
@cwx8
3 жыл бұрын
One of the issues with Kia is there is zero cohesion across their lineup. The grille is loosely similar but it seems like they experiment heavily on each model.
@JS-hw8ve
3 жыл бұрын
@@cwx8 I had heard that they were doing their Forte line as Baby Stingers, but Fortes are too small to serve my needs so I never bothered to find out.
@air-headedaviator1805
3 жыл бұрын
The GT with AWD almost fulfills that role. Basically destroys the need for the base level Stinger
@splatbubble
3 жыл бұрын
@@air-headedaviator1805 Plus the Kia Forte GT with the manual is frigging' good. Zero rev-hang, and really nice and punchy. Only thing is, I had just gotten out of a GTI so it wasn't worth it to me to trade it in...
@air-headedaviator1805
3 жыл бұрын
splatbubble oh a GT trim with a manual? Thats nice. Most American focused products omit manuals past base trims now
I’m not even in the market for a new car but I watch every video. Keep up the good work!
My 16 sonata has a similar air box setup and filter changes are so easy. Loving the content as always, this is the only channel that actually puts a car on the lift.
I always love when you add in your sense of humor to these reviews. Another video knocked out of the park!
Thank you for mentioning the terrible traction control. I have owned a Kia Optima and now an Elentra GT and the issue is the same. I will pull in to oncoming traffic and need to be aggressive and at times it will just kill the engine and I swear I am going to get killed because even after you are straight the engine is still severally restricted. Now I have gotten to the point of turning off traction control in these situations.
@jsfbay1
3 жыл бұрын
Can it accelerate hard if you roll into the throttle rather than floor it? I.E., avoid the wheelspin then nail it once revs are past where it can break the tires loose? Truly curious to know the answer.
@briandarlage9815
3 жыл бұрын
@@jsfbay1 It will sometimes kick in before you have wheel spin. the engine literally just dies and the peddle basically becomes non responsive no matter how you push it down. It's insane and incredibly unsafe and I have never experienced this with another car. My Optima was a 2011 and had this issue and my Elentra GT is a 2018 and is exactly the same. It is totally random and when it happens you go "oh shit" as you know you are screwed for the next 3-5 seconds before you have access to the full power.
@gregkramer5588
3 жыл бұрын
Weird, I have a 2017 Optima SXL and have not had this problem.
@igeekone
3 жыл бұрын
It's not a terrible traction control, just not built for sporty driving. There is only so much traction you get on a mainstream, economy, car with skinny tires.
@jordanandrews4626
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 16 optima sxl and as long as I don’t floor it and turn the wheel from a stop this isn’t issue. It’s never been an issue in what I would call normal driving.
That sexy jazz music.. Mr. Goose you set a standard. 👏🏻
The best car show on KZread. Love it! I keep checking for new videos every day. I miss the technology videos that were promised.....
The quality of the audio in the intro was amazing!
Always concise and to the point reviews and I really appreciate the high quality jazz music. Iam looking forward to the K5 2.5 turbo review! Jazz music is the only way to roll!
Lets be honest, 95% of the buyers for this car dont give a crap about the way it drives.
@starztrukk
3 жыл бұрын
True, but Kia (under Biermann) wants buyers to actually give a crap about its drivability, since they're target-demographic is younger, and their cars are sportier than Hyundai.
@Ziegfried82
3 жыл бұрын
But it sounds like it may be a little bit too crappy of a driving experience, normies like boring but they aren't gonna like those acceleration issues with the traction control going wild. There's a difference between fun to drive, boring to drive, and crappy to drive. The K5 is somewhere between boring and crappy, not a good place. The fact that you have to spend well north of $30,000 to get decent power or AWD option puts KIA solidly out of the budget car segment too. At least the exterior and interior looks a lot better I guess?
@johnfranklin5277
3 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous statement, of course people want a car that drives well. Do think a person after a test drive would buy if it drove badly? No. There are degrees in how cars drive, of course. Based on what kind of car you want. A BULLET Mustang is a high performance car, and will drive accordingly. Not to be compared to a family sedan. Doesn't mean that the sedan shouldn't handle decently, but no one expects it to handle like a Porsche. And lots of car ENTHUSIASTS, buy regular, sedans all the time.
@VfRuckus
3 жыл бұрын
The better way to look at it, the transmission and engine does everything that the targeted market wants.
@jordanandrews4626
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 16 optima sxl and have test driven this. There is only one time when this issue comes up - when you turn the wheel and floor it from a dead stop. What to do? Don’t floor it when turning the wheel from a dead stop. Otherwise it drives really, really nice for the average person. Meaning it’s smooth cruiser that can punch past a slow poke in the highway.
Thank god for humor AND quality car reviews in the same video. Thank you
I love the really fast hashtags you put in these videos! I like when they're so fast that you have to go back and pause it. It's a fun little easter egg. Tatianna agrees.
Mark is always good for laughs on Monday morning! Love this channel.
I am shooketh. He said *sphincter*
I first discovered your channel with your 2016 Kia Optima review. Full circle.
Love your honest reviews bro! Starting to become my favourite car review channel, keep it up!
Fricken love your videos man keep the jokes and awesome work coming!!
can we talk about how easy that air filter was to take out 🤯
@RRSmurf
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you don't need to ask permission 👍🏼
@spletest8977
3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know Nissan and apparently Kia are the only brands that do that with the air filter
@jacobrael9872
3 жыл бұрын
@@spletest8977 same with hyundai, I checked the filter for my mom's 2019 santa fe and was suprised how simple it was to take out
@2010ngojo
3 жыл бұрын
A few latches can do the same while being cheaper and less complicated in design.
@TheImperfectGuy
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobrael9872 I mean, mechanically Hyundai and Kia are mostly the same anyway
Bud you are VERY entertaining! Bravo and thank you for tremendous reviews!
Always appreciate the content and information. I love the small details involved in your vids. Keep up the great work.
I really hope kia keeps making sedans. They have come so far over the last 10 years. This is by far the best looking car in this segment
Really good points about traction control tuning. I had a Kia Stinger GT2 and moved to a 2020 M340i, mostly because of Kia's lack of powertrain polish. Even with stability control completely deactivated it would still intervene and upset chassis balance. Some manufacturers just get it right out of the box, but for the moment I don't think Hyundai\Kia are among them. They make excellent products for the typical driver, continue to improve and perfect aspects of the user experience that no one else is even thinking about, and I don't hesitate to recommend them to friends & family. But as a driving enthusiast I find their sheer driving enjoyment and powertrain engineering to be really lacking.
Always catching up with any Savageese uploads right here in Africa, Kenya. Boy is your stuff becoming more addictive!!!
Just catching up to this old video. Great writing and review as usual,.
This car looks like a Decepticon; it could have a role in a Transformers movie.
Kia has come a long way. Their early cars were low-end but you could tell they were trying to make the most of the kit. The new models are pretty darn good.
Oh man I got a good chuckle out of this after a hard day. Thank you, sir
You never disappoint ,this is the best auto review channel
Fact: the jazz music was created by Mr. Geese playing the skin flute.
That interior review was funny AF😂🤣😂🤣
Im really glad you got to review the new K5! I'm actually really happy that Kia is starting to use port and direct injection on the GT 2.5T. Takes away the anxiety of direct injection only problems.
All your reviews are like Hollywood Production and I really enjoy it. Keep it up.
Now if we could only upgrade the stinger interior to look like this :-/
@devn3813
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@levaranoia
3 жыл бұрын
It will get updated with the mid cycle refresh
HUGE LOADS of sarcasm
@jaysefmacmanus8858
3 жыл бұрын
Almost as big as the loads he is dumping in that trunk.
Loving the music Mark!
Elena and her wax kit...u killing me LOOOOOL. GREAT WORK LIKE 19838482 TIMES BEFORE!!
I was taking a drink when he talked about waxing immediately went into my sinuses. 😆🤣
“Getting arrested” yeah sure
The banter with the camera feels really natural lately, can't wait to see where you dudes end up in 10-15 years.
I gotta say, the under body review really sets you apart. Its such useful information.
absolute savage review😂
"10 inches... Which is typically how I roll" lmao
The sound track of this video is amazing
Always straight to the point!! 👏👏
Nice car, but the trunk opening is a joke. Fastback sedans like this one should be 5-door hatchbacks. Makes more sense. Like my old 07 Mazda 6i 5-door was.
@andybub45
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck selling it. Thats the stinger's market
@devskiiis13
3 жыл бұрын
The 10th gen civic did a pretty good job with their fastback sedan design.
@Dowlphin
3 жыл бұрын
This design trend is what ruins it for sedan fans. Looks like a liftback but without the practical advantage of it. I either want a hatchback or if I want a sedan then I want a proper surface I can put things on. (Another reason why I love the S2000. Proper trunk lid and so small and handy so that it never feels clunky.)
My mustang has a 7” and my wife loves it. Just saying..
@SAVAGEoLIFE
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Leon_der_Luftige
3 жыл бұрын
Are we still talking cars?
@lopesanderson19
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a pony though. Hhahaah
Thanks savage for the subtle humor hahaha and the overall great reviews keep up the good work man I watch all your videos.
Simplicity, reliability, value for money !!! 👌🏆👍
@BeyondTheTestDrive
3 жыл бұрын
Spent a week with an LXS and was surprised in a good way. Did a full POV driving review over on BTTD.
I don’t laugh at your jokes but I would really miss them if they were gone. Keep at it.
Tailgating party, HAHA, nearly spit out my coffee
This channel deserves 1 million plus subs
This is the perfect video to have on in the background while I'm folding my laundry
The last time I was this early, Marisol Patel was still learning how to drive a manual.
When geese makes me a video for my birthday :D
Will be waiting for your K5 GT AWD review!
Loved the Panera jazz at the beginning.
It’s not a last stand if it was a suicide mission to begin with. 😂
I can't lie, Kia and Hyundai are giving Toyota & Honda a run for their money. Definitely changing the sedan game.
@kromahj
3 жыл бұрын
there are 3 type of buyer, people who buy for look, people who buy for power, people who buy for reliability.
@tails300
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe in the looks department, but there powers trains left a lot to be desired in reliability.
@dannygloversshotgun211
3 жыл бұрын
Even their resale value on older models are still holding strong, it really surprised and continues to amaze me
@GreatDrums.
3 жыл бұрын
@@kromahj Good points, usually when you buy for power or looks you often have to sacrifice reliability.
@GreatDrums.
3 жыл бұрын
@Chris Ray Had no idea the safety wasn't up to scratch, good to know.
I like this channel and the way he present it.
great channel and awesome review..
"Oh yeah, look at that garbage can!"
@brodiwheeler7583
3 жыл бұрын
And then the double middle finger flip by the taillight 🖕🏼🖕🏼 Savage!
@JackBandicootsBunker
3 жыл бұрын
@@brodiwheeler7583 The savagest of geese by far~
The back side view looks heavy, the Stingers looks better
@jayknight139
3 жыл бұрын
The stinger is better
@erics.5785
3 жыл бұрын
jayknight139 they generally try to do that when they want double the price for a car in the same brand
Good looking car. Thanks for the review, excellent as usual!
Saw one of these just yesterday. I really love those running lights.
I'm just glad this isn't another damn crossover or suv review !
Omfg.. hair removal specialist 🤣😭 I just died . . Well nearly did, I spit my redbull all over my phone!
Great review!!!
oh man that front looks sick with the led strips and the big grille. they sure know how to make the modern design trends look amazing.
I can’t imagine trying to turn that thing and accelerate on a wet road lol
Guess I am waiting for the Toyota GR86 next year :)
@brodiwheeler7583
3 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the GR Corolla
@101chickendance
3 жыл бұрын
@@brodiwheeler7583 yeah its more practical, depends what engine they put in there for me
@brodiwheeler7583
3 жыл бұрын
101chickendance I’ll take that 3-Popper from the GR Yaris!
Love this review.
Hi Mark, It's great that you guys come up with all those fancy and detailed audio tests and graphs, BUT I bet no percentage of your viewers understand those when you show them in a blink. I'd suggest to explain them to make them worth your time and so the viewers time.
The fact that the DRLs are orange really bothers me...
Well its certainly less hideous than the Sonata. It is kind of a low bar though. Oh. My. God. That. Airbox. Tho. ❤️
Mark, did you lose it for a bit at the beginning? Lol I love your reviews. Nice spicing it up a bit. Hilarious! My girlfriend was like, what's going on there, isn't that a car review? Excellent!
I've been waiting for this review from this reviewer...
What a weird looking SUV. Is this one of those "car" things I heard people used to buy?
@langhamp8912
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to the car, US SUVs cannot easily be sold outside the US due to them not meeting European safety regulations for hitting people outside the SUV. This car will barely sell in the US while selling well outside.
Funniest car review ever 😆😆😆😆😆😆
Great video and thanks for the morning laugh!!!
This is going to be the first channel to do official Air Conditioning testing. I’ve always wanted to know which cars did a better job of cooling and heating.