Which would you buy?

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

@street ross congratulations mate! Great choice and thanks 🙏

@shubr66

3 жыл бұрын

Has to be the Aprilia here

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

@@shubr66 think I’d do same mate

@Indieauguste

2 жыл бұрын

Tuono, but I wonder whether its service is in place here in Goa, India.

@jonathonpalmer9593

2 жыл бұрын

Not the Honda with the toy town dash.

Excellent video Dave. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Made my mind up to splash on the Tuono now, cheers 😈

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Good man. Thanks.

Nun sounds better then a screaming inline 4 best bike sound

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

I do miss owning a 4 cyl to be fair

Loved this comparison vid David, top class, as usual! 🔥👍

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael. Appreciate the support as always 🥰🙏

The Tuono is 2k more but wins the beauty contest for me hands down, really enjoy your channel and honesty 👍🏍

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Glen. Appreciate the support mate 🙏

Excellent review.

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

Thanks appreciate it

Nice comparison. Bought my Tuono in Paris a couple of months ago and absolutely love it. It's perfect for city rides and weekend jaunts. I test rode it against the Triumph Street and Speed triple and preferred the Aptilia for my purposes. Liked the 765RS too but more for track days. Next month the whole of Paris is becoming a 30km/h (18 MPH) zone🤬, so I guess I'll have ample power with the Tuono😪

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit 18mph that’s criminal

@tonydare7614

3 жыл бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes Yes, I'm devastated. Who can ride for a hour at under 30? My daily commute was half filtering anyway but at least there were stretches where I could ride normally. They are also bringing in paid parking for motorbikes as of the end of the year (1,000 euros per year). They want to stop all petrol vehicles from entering Paris but are too scared to ban them; so they just make it impossible by half-arsed measures that make no sense.

@TK-cl1jm

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonydare7614 The more time that passes, the more people lose their freedom, it seems. Here in the US, too. Absolutely ridiculous climate BS. ZERO data to support AGW. ZERO.

Although not the same bikes I do think my experience is relatable. I previously had a CBR650F and went for a test ride on the RS660 at Via-Moto and I hadn't even got to the first lights when I realised the difference was like night and day!! Similar to the review here, absolutely nothing wrong with the Honda and to be fair it was a good way back into biking after far too many away but it simply did a job and didnt excite. The Aprilia though is just so much fun I get off it everytime with a big grin on my face and for me at least it is much more comfy than the Honda, pressure on wrists was an issue with that but not on the Aprilia. Again I know I am talking about two different bikes to this video but I imagine the differences to be the same. 100% Aprilia over the Honda..even with a few 'technical difficulties' associated with a new model it's worth the £££ any day of the week!

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate and no it’s a very similar comparison. Excitement is the they word.

@Synthetic-lt4ed

10 ай бұрын

What is your height?

I’m definitely with you on this bro imo this isn’t a comparison the CBR 650R vrs Tuono 660. Tuono 660 is a better bike in every way unless you want a work horse then the CBR 650R makes sense so it definitely depends on what you want out of your bike. Imo the 660 against say something like a Triumph 765rs that’s more of a comparison so maybe that could be another video for the future 👍🏻

@Curry3659

2 жыл бұрын

So the aprillia is better in every way except where the honda is better? 🤷🏾‍♂️

This seems to come down to a choice between Italian passion and Japanese reliability. If this were a second bike, the Aprilia would be an easy choice for me. If this were my only bike, it would be a much harder decision.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Potentially but I’ve had nothing but great experience with Aprilia reliability as have lots of others. I think the thing of unreliability is a bit of a thing if the past 🤞

@MidnaZ

10 ай бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes also most complains of the aprilla is from overseas,in europe you good owning a aprillia

Nice review, please check the rake on the CB650, it won't be 32 degrees, probably about 25.

Great comparison, thanks. I found the Honda suspension a bit simple feeling and under damped. Engine very revvy. Looking fwd to riding the new Tuono factory soon. Pricey but premium spec.

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome. Yeah that factory looks the nuts.

In the USA the two bikes are only $1,200 USD MSRP apart: CB650R $9299 USD Tuono 660 $10,499 USD That really makes the decision much more difficult if a person has $10k-$11k USD to drop on a new bike. Also worth noting that the USA Tuono has the same power as the RS660 instead of being the A2-compliant version.

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I’d buy the tuono.

Another factor - owners will be very surprised and disappointed if the Honda has any issues whatsoever in the first 5 years. Aprilia buyers expect to have issues in the first 3. At the end of the day if you can afford the Aprilia then yes it’s the better bike, but decisions made when buying a daily rider is a different question for most of us.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

I agree mate. I make that point in the video that not everyone buys bikes based on emotional reasoning. As a daily, potentially the Honda is the correct bike.

Both ABS and traction control comes stock on 2021 CB. Also you CAN add quickshifter on Honda as well. You were probably reading specs for the older 2019-2020 version. I agree on the looks part Tuono is slightly better looking, but I think both bikes look really good.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Isn’t the quick shift a separate aftermarket add on though?

@urosrakonjac8193

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it doesnt come stock. Costs about 250 EUR where i live. In the video you said that there is no option for quickshifter at all? Maybe I misunderstood you :).

@kemalyesil7565

2 жыл бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes the honda comes with original honda optional quick shifter✌️

I bought the Honda, as friend bought aprilia, and just had to many mechanical issues...

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

Probably smart. Both good bikes.

2200 pounds is alot of pounds, its into the CB1000R territory and that machine is a beast

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

I agree mate

Awesome review I like the Aprilia more than the Honda however currently on an MT 07 would love to know how that compares to the tuono

@Curry3659

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't really compare the two. The mt is much softer, probably on a shorter wheelbase and has nothing goin on at the top end. The aprillia is an everyday sports bike, the Mt is a overpowered city bike that can perform on one wheel the entire time. The Honda and the aprillia are in a different sport. The Mt is smiles per gallon for stop and go conditions. These other two are true weekend warriors that happen to be fun to commute on 2 or three times a week. I hope that sums it up for you. Now go do some wheelies on your mt

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

What that guy said

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

Some of the people in these types of conversations need to realize that even on the aprillia, they won't be as fast as that honda is capable of.

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

Great comparison, really it's horses for courses though.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Completely agree 🙏

It seems like triples are the best compromise. Flat torque line and high rpm power...just with slightly less of each. I've heard they are also smooth, but I've only ridden a single cylinder supermoto, so I don't know.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 ай бұрын

Yes I’d agree with all that

The Aprilia would look better if it weren't for the graphics and colors. The Acid Gold option looks great. I love the look of the Honda, but I tend to prefer the faired look.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 ай бұрын

Horses for courses I guess. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I know which one's gonna break down/fall apart first. Top video

@mostlymotorbikes

2 жыл бұрын

So cynical 😂😂😂

@goldengloves36123

16 күн бұрын

So you’ve never owned an Aprilia then just spouting nonsense

Is it a fair comparison given the £3k+ price difference? At nearly £10k wouldn't a comparison with the Mt 09 or z900 be more worthwhile?... They might be old stock but GSX S 1000s are currently available for £9k... I would have to seriously want an aprillia given other bikes that are in the same price bracket.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

It’s actually £2400 price difference. I incorrectly in the video (although I corrected it with the graphics). They are effectively the same engine size, similar HP and Torque. It’s absolutely a fair comparison. Price doesn’t dictate what class a bike is in. It’s the top end of price bracket in that segment but to be fair that Honda is a good shout for many use cases. For the record. The Tuono is a better bike than the Yam and Kwak too. Way more engaging and special

@chris_rides_kawasaki

3 жыл бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes I get your point, the Tuono does have that something. Perhaps it's just me, but when I went bike shopping I had a figure in my head of what I could afford, if that figure was in the £10k region I probably wouldn't look at the Honda. Whereas if my price bracket was around £7k I would be looking at the Honda and other bikes in that bracket.

@PancakeSandwich

3 жыл бұрын

Here in the US the Tuono is $800 more than the CBR, the equivalent of £576

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

@@PancakeSandwich wow that’s really good !

The CB has its thing higher in the rev. It’s actually fast, just wants higher rev. The RS provides more power from the get go.

@mostlymotorbikes

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, they are different power deliveries

The 2021 used tuono 660 I found for 9,500 usd is the same msrp of a new Honda cb650 for 9,400 but it’s cheaper cause no tax and it’s barely been driven. I’m stressed out debating between buying it or not I really want that Honda but that tuono is great also. But neither are a true sports bike, I think the Honda will be better choice and later when I went a real super sport I’ll get a cbr600rr or cbr1000rr I’ll stick with my new 2022 cb650r I suppose but I love them both but the Honda is probably more practical for my first street bike, coming from motocross I raced all my life

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

Just seen this, sorry. What did you do?

You can get a quick shifter and it does have traction control buddy

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

On which bike?

@gelasak1

10 ай бұрын

Honda cb650r

You can't compare these 2, the aprilia is in a different league..

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

They are the same class but I get your point.

@Curry3659

2 жыл бұрын

You guys need to go ride a honda once. It's not slow, it's very well made, will last until the sun explodes. With the money you will save buying the honda, you could fix one or two problems you have with the bike. Better pads, better brake fluid and the thing will stop better. Possibly some thicker fluid in the forks, if your a bigger guy, and zx10 from some year always seem to fit these types of bikes. All of this could be done with less than the money you would save on purchase and insurance for a couple of years. Sometimes we listen too much to the kid in us and forget that a bike needs to run well to ride the damn thing. Taking the tuono to the shop is probably not going to be a one or two day thing. Plus that honda will probably last a roadtrip on 0 oil Pressure, but you'll still say the aprillia has a better engine.

I guess the main difference between the two bikes, David, is the Honda doesn't come with a spare set of conrods. 😉 Great work as usual though.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Haha ouch, you went there 😬

@TheEpiphone83

Ай бұрын

That's been rectified to be fair, only early models. It was a brand new bike. Teething problems

The tuono is just superior in every aspect

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not as comfortable and smooth to be fair. Or as cheap. Tuono is way better though

both beginner bikes?

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

They are both very fast but very manageable. I started on a supersport 600 so why not 😂

CB650R does have traction control

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

You’re correct. My bad.

The Tuono 660 Factory is perfect, but I don't trust the reliability and the issues I hear about. I don't want a bike that's in the shop all the time.

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

All I know is I had a 2020 RSV4 that did 3000 hard miles at mainly track days with zero issues.

@Twistedmetallic

Жыл бұрын

I have a Tuono 660 with 15.000 trouble free km. If search for trouble you find it on every bike.

@goldengloves36123

16 күн бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes Me too , the only issue was an idiot driver who rear ended me , as long as you keep up with maintenance on the bikes they are reliable

Tuono is double the price in Australia 🇦🇺

@mostlymotorbikes

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus! I hope wages are twice as high?

@chhau123

2 жыл бұрын

What isn’t?😂

One thing to bear in mind apart from the price (Tuono is actually £9700) is the fact that the Tuono is way more to insure. How do I know? I recently got some quotes as a new rider. Saying that, the Tuono is a cracking bike.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point. Another reason that as a daily ride, the Honda makes a lot of sense.

@ANDY1985UK2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes why is the tuono so much to insure ?

@mostlymotorbikes

2 жыл бұрын

@@ANDY1985UK2011 it’s seen as a bit of a hooligan bike mate

@ANDY1985UK2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes so is my MT 07 but that's cheap to insure

@mostlymotorbikes

2 жыл бұрын

@@ANDY1985UK2011 yes but that’s not quite the same league mate 😂😂🤗

stock mabye not but the cb650r with an aftermarket pipe is way better sounding

@mostlymotorbikes

9 ай бұрын

Personal preference really. Stick a pip on anything and they sound better.

@goldengloves36123

16 күн бұрын

Put a SC project on the Tuono and it will sound better

Steak pie vs lasagne.....you pay your money and makes your choice...

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

100% bro

Aprilia better bike by far. Ps: When you walk, plz keep steady that camera, I've got the nausea!!! 😆 Why are you shaking so much?! Why are you moving so much?! You can film both bikes without running around, don't you think? 😁

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

I like to walk and talk. Helps me think.

The CBR 650R was never the bike it should have been (CBR 600RR) replacement .😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

I had two cbr600rr’S. Great bikes 🥰

You can tell everything about cb but the sound of 4 cilynders put aprilia down.

@Indieauguste

2 жыл бұрын

Aprilia Tuomo’s fart sounds good.

@gurgenmakaryan4428

2 жыл бұрын

👍 agree

Tuono is sexy!

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

I know right. They mate it so much better.

Mani basse la cB !!! Tuono si rompe !!

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Errrr nice one 😃

Rather the Honda Aprilla are Unreliable

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

I had an Aprilia for 2 years, tracked the shit out of it for 3500 miles and not one single issue….

The Tuono is a naked bike in exactly the same way that I am the King of England.

@mostlymotorbikes

9 ай бұрын

😂😂 what would you describe it as?

@rogerp4612

9 ай бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes like any sporty bike featuring a fairing and a wind screen, it's a sports bike.

@mostlymotorbikes

9 ай бұрын

@@rogerp4612 with flat bars?? You sure 😂

@rogerp4612

9 ай бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes yeah, I'm sure. You get that a naked bike is so described because it's NOT "wearing" a fairing or a wind screen, right? So your turn: explain to me how a bike that has both is a naked bike? Take your time. 😆

@mostlymotorbikes

9 ай бұрын

@@rogerp4612 I personally think the Tuonos are too close to a sport bike to be a proper naked. I think I say that on my review of the big brother.

I prefer twins but to me that Aprilia is ugly. My favourite bike in the 650/700 class is the XRV700.

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm that’s an interesting option. You can’t really argue with anyone over looks. We all like different things. Ask my wife 😂😂💩

honda cb is quite ugly, tuono is beautiful

@mostlymotorbikes

3 жыл бұрын

I agree mate.

@Indieauguste

2 жыл бұрын

@@mostlymotorbikes Italians are handsome and so are their bikes for asthetics.

If you love instant torque, get the 660, if you love a screamer get the inline 4, simple as, all the BS about Hondas being boring is BS, no bike over even as little as a Duke 390 is boring, the rider is boring, but just a warning,,,,, You better have a garage and F all moisture in it if you want an Aprilia, and don’t ride it in the rain, or it will fall apart after a few years, because it will rust quicker then any other bike manufacturer from Europe, the Tuono is more exotic, absolutely, but if you have any knowledge of metals just inspect the engine and chassis closely and you will see it’s made of shite

@mostlymotorbikes

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t have any issues with my RSV4??